OK, I'll grant you that it's a "lazy reprint" and everything.  At least from what people think right now.  Before the deck's even been released.

Who knows?  Imagine Steamboats with Bee Casino stock and Magic Finish - what would that be like, compared to the original?  Perhaps the artwork is classic reproductions of an earlier version of the deck.

I'm not a big fan of a lot of what D&D have done recently with playing cards, and that's no secret.  (Ace Fulton's Strip Joint, anyone?  It comes in peach, dark brown and caramel...)  But this is something they're doing in concert with USPC, much like the T11 decks that USPC carries.  Think of it - while Steam Punk didn't exactly wow anyone, Guardians and Archangels are some pretty good decks.  This could end up being a great redesign of a classic, with the benefit of updated finish.

My point is that we're all quick to judge a product that we've only seen inside its tuck box.

Anyone got a release time on this yet?

I have to disagree for a couple reasons. Although I agree that it's a bit early to judge because it's POSSIBLE that they can surprise us and recreate it with some new, "meant to be like the original" stock, I very highly doubt it.

1) Steamboats with bee Casino and Magic finish... See, that's just it, you can print any deck with that stock and finish. So with the current technology and creative standards, why would you do it on a deck with a sub-par, borderless back design that's useless for magic and has no uniqueness in any other aspect of the deck/design.

2) The Steamboats had very nice stock, stiff and thin. Like alex said, USPCC just does not have those papers available anymore. So since the only legitimate appeal to the deck was it's handling due to that great stock, reprinting it WITHOUT that is useless.

Warning, stupidly impromptu analogy: I think it could be compared to pea soup. Pea soup basically looks like vomit...Yuck! So why do people eat it? Because they like peas maybe.. or maybe just because the peas make it taste unique and good. In either case, the peas are the focal point of their interests. D&D are basically remaking making this, quite gross looking pea soup (steamboats), without the peas (their stock), that just tastes like regular ol' chicken noodle.

Lawl, I can't believe I just related playing cards to soup. I'm impressed. Can I get a badge for that? I think yes.

Again, this is all speculation, but based on D&D's history, even if they do make changes to this deck they will be minute and these points will still stand.

Hey thanks! Thin and stiff already has gotten my attention! Haha as long as the design isn't atrocious that's basically all I need/want! Let's hope these reprints will be as promising

Well, that was my point. I highly doubt they can or will recreate the old handling. In fact, I'd guess they will most likely be printed using the techniques they currently use for their decks (i.e. they will probably feel like Fultons). So although the design isn't BAD per se, it's definitely not anything special, so there really isn't a need for them to be reprinted.

Wow, I don't know if re-releasing steamboats is a great idea..

Steamboats became so popular SOLELY  because they handle amazingly, not for their design. Lets face it, the design is pretty mediocre, especially compared to the type of intricacy that today's technology is capable of.

It would seem to me, if you're going to reprint a deck (unless you can recreate how it handled too, which I doubt they can) you'd pick one that has a unique design, not one that was only popular for its handling.

Quote from: Angel_magic on January 09, 2013, 02:37:47 AM

Thought it would be cool to see if any of you guys here were lucky enough to win any prizes from the Holiday Contests this year, mainly TBC and Ellusionist, as those are the biggest ones that came to mind.

I just found out that I won the "Magic family" prize on TBC, an iPad Mini and all of their tricks! So excited. I've never won anything like that before :')

So, anyone else want to bask in the spotlight with me?

P.S. On a side note, do you guys think i should get the black or white iPad?? I really cant decide..
I totally wanted pink but they only gave me a black and white option. I think I'm just going to tell them, pink or no deal

Get a pink cover and call it a day...

Woah woah what am I, a bank? First they give me a free iPad and then they expect me to pay for accessories... That's just ridiculous. Pink or no deal.



Also congrats to you guys! Glad I can share the spotlight a bit. That special edition Lucite case looks really nice!

Thought it would be cool to see if any of you guys here were lucky enough to win any prizes from the Holiday Contests this year, mainly TBC and Ellusionist, as those are the biggest ones that came to mind.

I just found out that I won the "Magic family" prize on TBC, an iPad Mini and all of their tricks! So excited. I've never won anything like that before :')

So, anyone else want to bask in the spotlight with me?

P.S. On a side note, do you guys think i should get the black or white iPad?? I really cant decide..
I totally wanted pink but they only gave me a black and white option. I think I'm just going to tell them, pink or no deal :)

I talked to Syd about this on a previous occasion (although I don't quite remember when it was), and if I recall correctly, he told me that at that time he was pretty much completely responsible for packaging and shipping all orders out, with some help from the Bucks when they are able. With that in mind, considering the nature of the mystery deck, since every single deck must be hand wrapped (and they look quite nicely wrapped in the pictures) I can imagine why it's taking so long for a virtually one man team to get all the orders out.

I am now the highest rated seller on the forums, woot! Thanks for all the support and great feedback guys!

I've updated quantities and prices, lowered White Monarchs to $39 and Bicycle Heritage Set to $17 and more! Also added the following items:

- Blue Crown Luxury Deck - $19 each (have sold for upwards of $80-90 on ebay!)
- Handmade Luxury deck (1) - $159 (Only 144 exist! Includes deck with signed metal plaque, and special leather wrap case)
- Black Carpathia Uncut Sheet (3) - $59 each (VERY rare, only 12 sheets were released!)
- Blue Crown Luxury Uncut Sheet (1) - $55

Thanks so much Doris! Gosh, you really do give the best feedback! I do my best to try to package them as securely as possible, I'm glad they all arrived safely

As for the thread, HUGE UPDATE:

Just added 14 new items to the thread, adjusted quantities and tweaked lots of prices to try and stay cheaper than the current market prices. Check em out on the thread, new items include:

- Seasons Special Edition Porper clip (only 30 exist!) (1) - $49
- Bee Wynn (1 violet, 1 red) - $15 each, $25 for both
- The Brick Pass & Turnover Pass DvD (opened but unused) (1) - $5 -------- Bluecrown Price - $17.95
- USPCC Bee Tech Art (1) - $89 - (Recently sold on Ebay HERE for over $100)
- Smoke v1 (1) - $57
- Altruism Uncut sheet (only 31 exist!) (1) - $55
- T11 Bicycle Guardians V1 (Ohio printed) (2) - $8 each
- Sultan Treasury (only 2500 printed) (4) - $19 each
- Black Carpathia Deck - $18 each - (only 144 decks printed! Each numbered by the creator. Very thin, foreign made to handle just like Absolute Vodka decks!)
- Altruism Snow Owls (only 2500 printed) - $11 each - Brick for $130
- Gold Crown Deck (12) - $19 each
- Gold Crown Clip (only 100 made) (1) - $49
- Gold Crown Uncut Sheet (1) - $85
- Altruism Snow Owl Uncut Sheet (1) - $75

Payment of USD$209 sent today, please confirm payment.

Thanks!

Regards,
Doris

Hey Doris,

I've recieved your payment. Your decks are all packaged up and ready to be shipped out tomorrow, I'll contact you with your label reciept number after I've scanned them in at the post office.

Regards,
-Nick

Bought 2 bricks of magic con v2 for $220.

Paypal invoice has been sent.

I've received your payment, thank you! I've just PM'd you.

-Nick

Here we go! Purple artifice page
I'm really excited for this deck. I loved the borderless blue arcanes, and purple is my favorite color!

moved

Just a quick update that I'll be in Texas for the rest of the week for the national tennis tournament but I'll try to respond to emails as quickly as possible.

Updated quantities and more decks soon to come!

Thanks for your patience,
-Nick