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« on: April 09, 2014, 03:08:08 AM »
 

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As posted on the Kings Wild project facebook a few hours ago ? ? ?



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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2014, 06:06:11 AM »
 

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So, Jackson - a little commentary, perhaps?  :))  Inquiring minds want to know!
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2014, 10:22:34 AM »
 

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That seems so interesting!!! Wanting to know more!
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2014, 12:59:57 PM »
 

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Smart artistic and business decisions all around. I can learn a thing or two from this guy.

Very interested in this to say the least.
 

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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 01:40:17 PM »
 

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I just posted the following on Jackson Robinson's Facebook Photo Page:

"Tally-Ho Fan Backs, with a Black back, in the Linoid Finish, are my favorite daily-use cards; and Jackson Robinson is my favorite card-crafter... So I am all-in on this one!"
 

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2014, 08:27:39 PM »
 

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I actually took this as some kind of late april fools joke. But if it's real them I'm going to have my very first Tally-Ho deck.
 

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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 11:42:59 AM »
 

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Is it possible that this might be where Jackson is planning on debuting his "Kings Wild Signature" standard, his custom courts, etc that he was thinking of using in upcoming decks where he wanted to go with a more traditional look like when he was talking about developing a custom take on classic Rider Backs before Jarden got in the way?

http://www.playingcardforum.com/design-development/kings-wild-development-thread/msg89266/#msg89266

I'm definitely interested. Always wanted some T-Ho's but never gotten around to it. Would definitely be in on some with a little Jackson flavor thrown in!

 

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2014, 05:30:23 PM »
 

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Is it possible that this might be where Jackson is planning on debuting his "Kings Wild Signature" standard, his custom courts, etc that he was thinking of using in upcoming decks where he wanted to go with a more traditional look like when he was talking about developing a custom take on classic Rider Backs before Jarden got in the way?

http://www.playingcardforum.com/design-development/kings-wild-development-thread/msg89266/#msg89266

I'm definitely interested. Always wanted some T-Ho's but never gotten around to it. Would definitely be in on some with a little Jackson flavor thrown in!

There's a slight problem with that post.  The graphic link appears to be dead.
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2014, 04:59:58 PM »
 

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Oh I know, I think it happened while JR was relaunching the kings wild website and had it down for a while before he did that short sale on Fed decks a while back.

He either mentioned there or somewhere else that a lot his links got broke as a result of taking the side down and redesigning it. I've never had the chance to even see what he was referring to with them. I'm just basically day dreaming. You don't know how long I hemmed and hawed about adding on when I completed my Backerkit for the Independence.

I swear, Jackson could start churning out crap (I know he won't though) and I'd be the last to catch on. He basically can do no wrong with his decks in my eyes. Something about his aesthetic just nails my personal taste to the last letter.
 

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2014, 05:33:57 PM »
 

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I don't think I've ever actually used any standard Tally Hos. I've handled the Viper deck from Ellusionist, not sure if that's the same general specs or if Ellusionist added some sort of performance coating. Aren't they more of a smoother, thick stock?

Anyways, it looks like a pretty cool deck. I hope its the real deal.
 

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2014, 11:14:10 PM »
 

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I don't think I've ever actually used any standard Tally Hos. I've handled the Viper deck from Ellusionist, not sure if that's the same general specs or if Ellusionist added some sort of performance coating. Aren't they more of a smoother, thick stock?

Anyways, it looks like a pretty cool deck. I hope its the real deal.

It would largely depend on how old your Tally Ho Viper deck was.  Original issue had UV500 stock and "Air-Flow" finish.  Then they had "Air Cushion" finish with Bicycle Casino stock.  The stock these days is closer to standard Bicycle, perhaps a little heavier, while the finish is Magic Finish under the original production code name, "Performance Coating".

Technically, the finish for all three is the same - embossed.  The coating is what varies.  Just guessing here, but I'm assuming that "Air-Flow" and "Air Cushion" were just USPC's standard coating, while the "Magic Finish" (a misnomer that USPC never bothered to correct) coating is what's used now, as it's the default finish for all custom decks and performance slicker than the standard.  They are, after all, the only two actual coatings that USPC offers, aside from what they use for those biodegradable, recyclable decks like Bicycle Archagels and Bicycle Eco Edition.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2014, 11:24:58 PM »
 

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I want to say it was printed on Casino stock, if only because they felt very thick, but I don't think they had the standard "Air Cushion" finish that most standard Bicycle cards do.
 

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 11:55:27 PM »
 

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I want to say it was printed on Casino stock, if only because they felt very thick, but I don't think they had the standard "Air Cushion" finish that most standard Bicycle cards do.

There's a bit of confusion that happens with the term "finish".  The finish is the texture of the card - smooth or embossed.  At one time, that texture was incorporated into a card with the application of a coating using cloth rollers of different fabric types - hence the reason so many finishes are named after fabrics, such as Cambric, Linen, Linoid, etc.  Some time in the 1970s or '80s USPC changed the process, using steel rollers to press the finish right into the paper, separating it from the coating altogether.  It was less expensive since the steel rollers needed much less frequent replacement on the assembly line.  Finish names like Air Cushion, Cambric and so on became different ways of saying the deck has an embossed finish, no longer distinguishable from each other as they once were.

As far as coatings go, USPC offers just the two.  They'll never openly admit it, but there's just "standard" and "Magic Finish" coatings.  Personally, I think "Performance Coating" was a much more intelligent name - I bust out a pack of anything that says "Magic Finish" on it, any spectator that sees it will think is a trick deck!
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2014, 07:34:18 AM »
 

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This looks beautiful :)

Jackson confirmed, via Facebook comments, that this WILL NOT be a kickstarter project.
Can't wait to see more :)
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2014, 08:07:05 AM »
 

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This looks beautiful :)

Jackson confirmed, via Facebook comments, that this WILL NOT be a kickstarter project.
Can't wait to see more :)

It's really gorgeous.  I just hope USPC Legal doesn't get a bug up their butt over this.  They don't allow modifications to classic backs anymore.

At least he fixed the one-way mark!
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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2014, 11:25:21 AM »
 

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First deck of Tally Hos incoming, I guess.
 

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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2014, 05:24:18 PM »
 

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Doesn't he work for them now?  Maybe that makes this deck a USPC collaboration...
 

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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2014, 06:32:53 PM »
 

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I do not work for them. They only license deck designs from me. And this is not a collaboration as it says Kings Wild Project on the tuck.
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2014, 05:28:30 PM »
 

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KW tally ho AoS
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2014, 08:20:00 PM »
 

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Awwww, what happened to all the nice yellow detailing on the back?
 

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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2014, 08:28:15 PM »
 

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That looks very cool, Jackson!  I'm surprised they're allowing you to make such modifications to the back and the Ace of Spades, what with the fuss they've been making over their trademarks for the past two-plus years.
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2014, 08:12:04 AM »
 

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Awwww, what happened to all the nice yellow detailing on the back?

In assuming that's a limited edition back, maybe? Could be wrong.
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2014, 11:59:48 PM »
 

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Hi Jackson,

I've been a backer of all your decks since the Fed52, and I must say, everything looks so good and I love everything so far. Waiting for my Sherlock Holmes decks now :D
I'd usually just open one deck and keep the rest because of how pricey they are to me, being international as well.

Was wondering, would it be possible to produce a cheaper deck just for playing with friends?  Maybe in the range of $5-$7 per deck? It can be unlimited and you always have them in stock, but with your own style in the design.

Just a suggestion :P
 

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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2014, 04:37:32 PM »
 

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Always learning...

Yellow/blue looked neat, but Cool, either way.

Will these be sold from the Kingswildproject website?
 

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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2014, 07:47:48 AM »
 

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The yellow and blue look great and I would definitely purchase. The regular blue ones aren't interesting enough to pay twice or three times the price of standard Tally's.