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MDCasino · « **on:** March 23, 2012, 11:29:05 PM »

Anyone see these yet? They look pretty interesting.

I dont think there using uspc...

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"If funded, we will be printing our cards with one of the premier card deck producers in the country with over 100 years of experience making classic decks."

Heres a link
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1244376122/blue-blood-playing-cards?ref=live

vmagic · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:53:17 PM »

What makes you think it isn't USPC? Doesn't say that it isn't and USPC definitely has over 100 years of experience and is one of the only premier card producers in the world. And then there is this quote "Using a printer like this however, requires a high minimum order." Sounds like USPC also. But who knows, maybe i'm wrong. I haven't seen USPC produce a deck like that before and i'm not sure how well that deck will sell especially with everyone spending so much money on other decks at the moment and with that hideous back design.

Evan · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:56:23 PM »

That is a really interesting deck! You guys should all watch the video on the kickstarter page... the deck really has a lot of meaning. The art on that deck is wonderful and although it isn't a deck that I would really want, I respect the artists skill and effort.

Quote from: vmagic on March 23, 2012, 11:53:17 PM

with that hideous back design.

I guess that's your opinion. But its more of an art piece and try to look at it in a more abstract way.

jmrock · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:57:39 PM »

Looks nice... USPCC and I might be interested... Very artistic... I'm going to vote on the Blue Blood deck over the other one (you know which one I'm talking about)... Okay I'll let it go now - sorry...

ReaganM · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2012, 12:02:48 AM »

Quote from: jmrock on March 23, 2012, 11:57:39 PM

Looks nice... USPCC and I might be interested... Very artistic... I'm going to vote on the Blue Blood deck over the other one (you know which one I'm talking about)... Okay I'll let it go now - sorry...

Ok man that is just uncalled for, If you just said you didnt like it Id be fine, but now its rediculous. I think Im justified in saying this now, You can suck it.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2012, 12:12:21 AM »

Quote from: MDCasino on March 23, 2012, 11:29:05 PM

Anyone see these yet? They look pretty interesting.

I dont think there using uspc...

Quote
"If funded, we will be printing our cards with one of the premier card deck producers in the country with over 100 years of experience making classic decks."

Heres a link
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1244376122/blue-blood-playing-cards?ref=live

I came, I saw, I lost interest. The art is beautiful, but the card design isn't really to my tastes. I have to be a lot choosier about what decks I buy these days, so despite really liking the art, I have to pass.

Quote from: vmagic on March 23, 2012, 11:53:17 PM

What makes you think it isn't USPC? Doesn't say that it isn't and USPC definitely has over 100 years of experience and is one of the only premier card producers in the world. And then there is this quote "Using a printer like this however, requires a high minimum order." Sounds like USPC also. But who knows, maybe i'm wrong. I haven't seen USPC produce a deck like that before and i'm not sure how well that deck will sell especially with everyone spending so much money on other decks at the moment and with that hideous back design.

USPC is not the only hundred-year-old-plus card company out there, and "high minimum" is a relative term. If it was USPC, he probably (but not definitely) have said as much. I left him a question about which company he's planning to use - we'll see what the answer is.

Quote from: ReaganM on March 24, 2012, 12:02:48 AM

Quote from: jmrock on March 23, 2012, 11:57:39 PM
Looks nice... USPCC and I might be interested... Very artistic... I'm going to vote on the Blue Blood deck over the other one (you know which one I'm talking about)... Okay I'll let it go now - sorry...
Ok man that is just uncalled for, If you just said you didnt like it Id be fine, but now its rediculous. I think Im justified in saying this now, You can suck it.

JMRock, please - stay on topic and save the barbs for PM. No one else is interested in reading them.
Reagan - understandable, but no flame wars. It should end now, if you both don't mind, please.

MDCasino · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2012, 12:22:21 AM »

Quote from: vmagic on March 23, 2012, 11:53:17 PM

What makes you think it isn't USPC? Doesn't say that it isn't and USPC definitely has over 100 years of experience and is one of the only premier card producers in the world. And then there is this quote "Using a printer like this however, requires a high minimum order." Sounds like USPC also. But who knows, maybe i'm wrong. I haven't seen USPC produce a deck like that before and i'm not sure how well that deck will sell especially with everyone spending so much money on other decks at the moment and with that hideous back design.

Well like Don said, if he was using USPC I would imagine he would say it out front.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2012, 01:01:04 AM »

These actually are very creative. Too creative to be my type. But I hope they get funded!

Don Boyer · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2012, 05:14:43 AM »

Quote from: MDCasino on March 24, 2012, 12:22:21 AM

Quote from: vmagic on March 23, 2012, 11:53:17 PM
What makes you think it isn't USPC? Doesn't say that it isn't and USPC definitely has over 100 years of experience and is one of the only premier card producers in the world. And then there is this quote "Using a printer like this however, requires a high minimum order." Sounds like USPC also. But who knows, maybe i'm wrong. I haven't seen USPC produce a deck like that before and i'm not sure how well that deck will sell especially with everyone spending so much money on other decks at the moment and with that hideous back design.

Well like Don said, if he was using USPC I would imagine he would say it out front.

I said they'd be likely to say as much - not definitely. This design house sounds like another artist who wants to make a deck rather than a deck designer from the get-go. This often means they know less about card design than most. Meaning it's also possible they have no idea what the cachet of the USPC name would mean for their deck. Or maybe they do know, and are being vague specifically because they aren't using USPC. There's no way to tell until they answer the question I left for them.

EDIT: a clear sign that they may not be using USPC is the rather low goal needed for the project. Especially if you factor in all the promotional stuff they're offering besides just the deck. I consider this a sign that it's more likely they're using an overseas company to do the work despite claims that they're using a domestic company. It's also interesting that they don't specify the size of the print run as well, making it harder to gauge the actually rarity the deck will have in the marketplace.

Kanped · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2012, 06:31:17 AM »

I can appreciate the effort the went into creating this deck. Not so much the finished product.

Jin Jian · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2012, 06:51:43 AM »

it is not my cup of tea but still i will pledge for 2 decks

Russell CircleCityCards · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2012, 12:09:41 PM »

I just PM'd the creator, they said it will be USPCC. Also they just posted that it will be smooth finish.

I like them a lot!

Aaron · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2012, 12:22:27 PM »

I don`t really like these, they have nice art but I am going to pass on them.

Frost · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2012, 12:40:10 PM »

The back of the cards is what i don't like they should have done something else with i it .

vmagic · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2012, 01:50:28 PM »

My comment about the back design was a little too negative. I understand it is more of an art piece and I appreciate it for what it is but I doubt there are too many on these forums that would support that deck, myself included. With all the other decks coming out, one can't afford art pieces, but we'll see I suppose.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #15 on:** March 24, 2012, 02:30:10 PM »

I have additional information from the creators of this deck - they responded to my question.

Uusi says:
Hi Don - good to hear from you!
We just posted an update (we tweaked our blue, marble back so it now is a mirrored back), and also posted some FAQ's. Your question is one of the most asked - if funded we will be printing our deck with the US Playing Card company. We chose them for their long history in printing high quality, classic decks that I am sure you are familiar with such as, Bicycle, Aviator and Bee.
Please let us know if you have any other questions. We are thrilled with how many magicians are interested in our deck - we hope you choose to help us bring the Blue Blood deck to life!
Best,
Linnea

So not only is it USPC, not only is it smooth finish, but they're adjusting the back to make it symmetrical. I'm more interested now.

RandyButterfield · « **Reply #16 on:** March 24, 2012, 02:31:55 PM »

I really like the court card illustrations. Colored-pencil is my favorite choice for hand-drawing, so it's nice to see it used in card design. I just wish they used a similar technique for the Back design. It just looks too harsh for such an elegant set of face cards and Tuck Box! The new mirrored Back looks better with it's brighter blue but too bad they didn't do something similar to the Tuck Box front.

The index font is a little funky too. I've tried to use that font before on random bottle necker jobs and the client always comes back with "is that an "I" or a "J"?

thanks, Randy

Russell CircleCityCards · « **Reply #17 on:** March 24, 2012, 02:49:59 PM »

I threw down for a few. I really like the box and design of the deck, true art. As with most custom decks no one is going to be playing serious poker with them, the different font and back design are perfectly OK. I actually wish they would have left the back alone and kept it one-way and less vivid. I hope to see something else like this in the future!

dmbaggs · « **Reply #18 on:** March 24, 2012, 04:03:22 PM »

I love this design. I've been pretty busy lately and haven't been around the forums or web much, but I am really glad that I didn't miss out on this one. I really love the art on this one! It has a similar style to a friend of mine. It's a nice little reminder. I also love the back design. I'm glad it's USPCC as well. I just backed for a few of these! They are wonderful!!!

MrLukeCarroll · « **Reply #19 on:** March 24, 2012, 07:11:00 PM »

Whilst not my style of cards I can deffinetly see and appreciate the effort that went into making a beautiful deck of cards like these.

Paul Carpenter · « **Reply #20 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:39:53 PM »

The effort involved and going for a fully custom deck is something I fundamentally need to support, so I backed it. Not precisely my style but very unique, and at a $9000 goal I'd guess they will be doing only 2500 which keeps it quite limited.

uusikissa1 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2012, 12:30:58 AM »

Hello,
First I want to thank everyone for commenting (ALL feedback has value) and their support! I would also like to give a little more info on the specs and production of the deck, as well as our inspiration: The deck will be produced by the US Playing Card Company (if fully funded) 2500 decks will be produced, they will be made with Bicycle Grade Paper and will have an Air Cushion and Magic finish. We have been collecting card decks for about 15 years, and mainly focus on Decks produced in Europe (predominantly Germany and France) from about the late 1700's to the early 20th century. Our design / artistic influences are wide ranging; The backs for our deck are inspired from french card decks dating from the 1700's, the face cards are a mix of Japanese prints, Renaissance painting and more directly German Patience decks of the late 1800's to early 1900's. I was originally intrigued and fell in love with old decks when I was visiting The Cloisters Museum in Upper Manhattan some years ago. There are decks (single cards) there under glass dating back to the middle ages - absolutely beautiful.
I understand everyone has their own taste - its art and design, completely subjective. Just want to thank everyone again for their support here, exciting to be a member on the discussion board!

P.S. If we are able to produce this deck there will be more to come...

Russell CircleCityCards · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2012, 01:05:25 AM »

As a backer (and designer) I look forward to your future decks!

uusikissa1 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 27, 2012, 01:08:32 AM »

Thanks, me too!!

moonexe · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2012, 02:44:12 AM »

Quote from: uusikissa1 on March 27, 2012, 12:30:58 AM

they will be made with Bicycle Grade Paper and will have an Air Cushion and Magic finish.

That's all the persuasion I needed.

The court cards really are beautiful, very creative and inspiring. I'll be considering the 6 decks package if I can afford it, and I'll be sure to pledge for at least two otherwise. Good luck!