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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => A Cellar of Fine Vintages => Topic started by: xZEROx on February 04, 2012, 04:58:56 PM
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It seemed like many of us here are somewhat into collecting vintage decks, so I decided to open up a thread to allow some to show off their vintage collection!
I'll start off with one of mine, some of you may have seen this in other forums, but I'll post again for others anyway.
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01551.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01555.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01552.jpg)
Enjoy! 8)
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Wow that is a nice looking deck!! What is it called/what year?
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Wow... a beautiful Leaf Back :D
jmrock will be very happy to see you open such a thread >:( >:(
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Wow that is a nice looking deck!! What is it called/what year?
It's called the Leaf Back, introduced by Bicycle in 1947. This particular deck should be dated c.1948 if I'm not mistaken.
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Wow... a beautiful Leaf Back :D
jmrock will be very happy to see you open such a thread >:( >:(
It's gorgeous isn't it?
Yeah I'm sure he is. Most of us here can't wait see his vintage collection. He talked a lot about it, but we haven't seen much evidence. Show us what you've got jmrock!
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here is what i got http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view¤t=DSC_0224-1.jpg
http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view¤t=DSC_0225-2.jpg
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(http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/DSC_0224-1.jpg)
(http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/DSC_0225-2.jpg)
Easier for the others to view. ;)
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Gosh, this thread is going to make me jealous. I'm really interested in vintage decks.
The most vintage decks I've got are two Virginia Slims!
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Gosh, this thread is going to make me jealous. I'm really interested in vintage decks.
The most vintage decks I've got are two Virginia Slims!
Don't you think many of the out-of-print vintage designs are so much better than those nowadays? Classics.
Post some pictures to share!
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Here is my vintage collection guys. It's not much, but it's something. :)
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@alex.
Nice collection! Are all of them sealed? I remember from UC that you mentioned you would only obtain sealed vintage decks, if I'm not mistaken.
What is that Service deck next to the Bicycle New Fan Back?
Edit: I took a closer look at the photo after clicking on it and reads WWII Arrco Service. Anyone have the stories behind this deck?
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When did you pick up your second Jerry's deck?
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@sxjy0109, hahaha, I noticed the Service deck too because I have one.
You may refer to: [size=78%]http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01964/d01964.htm (http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01964/d01964.htm)[/size]
Now on eBay there is a Service deck with different jokers.
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@sxjy0109, hahaha, I noticed the Service deck too because I have one.
You may refer to: [size=78%]http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01964/d01964.htm (http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01964/d01964.htm)[/size]
Now on eBay there is a Service deck with different jokers.
You really need to show us your collection! I've heard lots about it but yet to witness a photo! My guess is that you've got 200+ vintage decks and probably sitting on another 300+ of the newer ones.
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@sxjy0109, I am not a serious collector. I only collect the decks I like. For example, every time I see a GN or 727, I can not control myself... I don't collect all the vintage decks I see unless I think them interesting or the prices are sweet (or I happen to be bored to death). My Arrco Service deck met the 2 conditions, it cost me only $10 including shipping.
I do have some vintage/antique decks, but they can not compare with others in terms of quantity and variety. And you know "人外有人，天外有天", there's always someone better. I don't like to list all my decks, however, when people talk about decks that I also have or am interested, I will try to post some pics then.
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@digipunk
That's a sweet deal for the Arrco Service deck! Where do you get your vintage decks? eBay?
Well we've all got something that we want to get, but always out of the reach. I'd really love to see some of your collection and hopefully you'll change your mind and post a few pictures some day! It's really not compete with others, just to share with people what you've achieved in terms of this hobby.
P.S. What made you think I read Chinese? ::)
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Digipunk, I was the other bidder for that Arrco Service deck (I wanted it to complete my set). I forgot about the auction and lost it, though. I picked up my Service deck for about $16, and I am glad I did.
The Service decks were handed out to soldiers in combat during WWII, that's all I know about it.
sxjy, almost all of the decks are sealed. When I have a lot of duplicates of the sealed decks, I usually open one, so I have an open set of Slims, a Vegas Club, etc.
Levi, I picked up my second Jerry's almost a year ago. I got it about a week after I made my deck collection video for the low price of $200 (Okay, not so low, but it was sealed in perfect condition I couldn't pass that up).
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Wow! my most "vintage" deck is my 2007 bicycle rider back lol
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sxjy, almost all of the decks are sealed. When I have a lot of duplicates of the sealed decks, I usually open one, so I have an open set of Slims, a Vegas Club, etc.
Wow if you've got duplicates of sealed vintage decks, you must have spent a lot of money to get them! To my knowledge, Rider Back sealed usually goes to an average of $50 per deck on eBay, although I have to admit it's not the perfect source to evaluate the market price of vintage decks.
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Wow! my most "vintage" deck is my 2007 bicycle rider back lol
Hahahha
Some people aren't into vintage decks like a lot of us do. But on the bright side, you'd save some money by avoiding dumping in big bucks just for one deck!
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@sxjy0109, Taobao ;)
@alex, I am not the winner of the Service deck from UK. I got mine from a US seller and it's starting price for auctioning was $0.99. I reviewed the seller's feedback page and was surprised all the decks he'd sold were ended with $0.99-3. So I tried to contact the seller and made an offer of $10 including shipping, he was so happy... These vintage decks are so valuable to us, but they are simply 50+ pieces of papers in non-collectors' eyes ???
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@sxjy0109, Taobao ;)
@alex, I am not the winner of the Service deck from UK. I got mine from a US seller and it's starting price for auctioning was $0.99. I reviewed the seller's feedback page and was surprised all the decks he'd sold were ended with $0.99-3. So I tried to contact the seller and made an offer of $10 including shipping, he was so happy... These vintage decks are so valuable to us, but they are simply 50+ pieces of papers in non-collectors' eyes ???
Ah that must have explained it. The post about Taobao for the Beijing Olympics deck eh?
It'd be considered VERY lucky that you could find someone that knows nothing about cards and sells them for such low prices. Usually people would at least spend a little time on the web to search for the basic background information before listing them.
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sxjy, almost all of the decks are sealed. When I have a lot of duplicates of the sealed decks, I usually open one, so I have an open set of Slims, a Vegas Club, etc.
Wow if you've got duplicates of sealed vintage decks, you must have spent a lot of money to get them! To my knowledge, Rider Back sealed usually goes to an average of $50 per deck on eBay, although I have to admit it's not the perfect source to evaluate the market price of vintage decks.
Yeah I spent quite a bit of money, but I did get almost all of them at a relative bargain. For example, I got my blue Jerry's deck for $250, but it came with a free, sealed v1 S&M set. I got all my Slims for under $10 per set. I got the Golden Nuggets for $30. Every once in a blue moon, some bloke who has no idea what stuff is worth posts something on eBay. Sometimes I get lucky.
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sxjy, almost all of the decks are sealed. When I have a lot of duplicates of the sealed decks, I usually open one, so I have an open set of Slims, a Vegas Club, etc.
Wow if you've got duplicates of sealed vintage decks, you must have spent a lot of money to get them! To my knowledge, Rider Back sealed usually goes to an average of $50 per deck on eBay, although I have to admit it's not the perfect source to evaluate the market price of vintage decks.
Yeah I spent quite a bit of money, but I did get almost all of them at a relative bargain. For example, I got my blue Jerry's deck for $250, but it came with a free, sealed v1 S&M set. I got all my Slims for under $10 per set. I got the Golden Nuggets for $30. Every once in a blue moon, some bloke who has no idea what stuff is worth posts something on eBay. Sometimes I get lucky.
Are these all off of eBay? Someone's got time at his hand to do searches all day long! ;D
Btw I'm envy of the Jerry+S&M V1 deal.
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I will put some photos up once I receive the newest addition to my vintage collection, which should come in the mail within a couple weeks. For now, here is a list of my small vintage collection, these are all sealed.
1979 World Blackjack Sahara Casino Deck
Sahara casino deck, from the 80's ( I think )
Virginia Slims set
Imperial Palace Casino Deck ( Like this, except still sealed and in not cut on the side: http://tinyurl.com/739n6yr )
1920's Bee deck
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@sxjy0109, the Arrco Service deck is not very famous. The seller is not a card collector, even he saw the page I posted earlier (http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01964/d01964.htm (http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01964/d01964.htm)), "SINCE 1943" still means nothing to him, hahaha.
I am not always so lucky, few days ago I continuously lost 6 items... those SOB snippers >:(
So I was angry and increased the max bids of the remaining auctions I was bidding on. Finally I won one deck (actually it's the only one deck) in those days: http://www.ebay.com/itm/130636796796 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/130636796796)
I was not too interested in the Uncle Sam decks I saw before, but this one... please look at its stamp. The "free-of-tax" stamp is very special to me.
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I will put some photos up once I receive the newest addition to my vintage collection, which should come in the mail within a couple weeks. For now, here is a list of my small vintage collection, these are all sealed.
1979 World Blackjack Sahara Casino Deck
Sahara casino deck, from the 80's ( I think )
Virginia Slims set
Imperial Palace Casino Deck ( Like this, except still sealed and in not cut on the side: http://tinyurl.com/739n6yr (http://tinyurl.com/739n6yr) )
1920's Bee deck
I'm not familiar with the casino decks, but is the World Blackjack Sahara deck THE Sahara deck that all the vintage card collectors are crazy about?
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I'm not familiar with the casino decks, but is the World Blackjack Sahara deck THE Sahara deck that all the vintage card collectors are crazy about?
I am have not paid much attention to the vintage card collecting market, so I am not sure.
Here is pictures of an opened one of the decks: http://www.magiccastleauctions.com/102728,auction_id,auction_details
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@sxjy0109, the Arrco Service deck is not very famous. The seller is not a card collector, even he saw the page I posted earlier (http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01964/d01964.htm (http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01964/d01964.htm)), "SINCE 1943" still means nothing to him, hahaha.
I am not always so lucky, few days ago I continuously lost 6 items... those SOB snippers >:(
So I was angry and increased the max bids of the remaining auctions I was bidding on. Finally I won one deck (actually it's the only one deck) in those days: http://www.ebay.com/itm/130636796796 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/130636796796)
I was not too interested in the Uncle Sam decks I saw before, but this one... please look at its stamp. The "free-of-tax" stamp is very special to me.
How much should the deck really cost on the market?
Hah you must have pissed the winner off with the increasing bids! Those free-of-tax stamps are quite rare I think. I'm yet to see one on the Bicycle decks. Anyone know how long it had been used? All I'm aware of is that it was applied in 1946 for the U.S. military.
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@sxjy0109,
I don't know. Since I don't plan to resell it, why should I care about how much it costs on the market ;)
Every time I go to this page to look up the age of a deck:
http://www.cypressfilms.com/Bicycle/USPC_Dates/USPC_Dating_Codes.html (http://www.cypressfilms.com/Bicycle/USPC_Dates/USPC_Dating_Codes.html)
I always think I would never have the chance to own a deck with the "free-of-tax" stamp, but now I have one :D :D
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I'm not familiar with the casino decks, but is the World Blackjack Sahara deck THE Sahara deck that all the vintage card collectors are crazy about?
I am have not paid much attention to the vintage card collecting market, so I am not sure.
Here is pictures of an opened one of the decks: http://www.magiccastleauctions.com/102728,auction_id,auction_details (http://www.magiccastleauctions.com/102728,auction_id,auction_details)
Hmm that doesn't seem to be the one. Maybe someone here can give us insights into these casino decks? @jmrock? @Don/Good@Sabacc?
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@sxjy0109,
I don't know. Since I don't plan to resell it, why should I care about how much it costs on the market ;)
Every time I go to this page to look up the age of a deck:
http://www.cypressfilms.com/Bicycle/USPC_Dates/USPC_Dating_Codes.html (http://www.cypressfilms.com/Bicycle/USPC_Dates/USPC_Dating_Codes.html)
I always think I would never have the chance to own a deck with the "free-of-tax" stamp, but now I have one :D :D
Lol you're right. But sometimes I want to know the market value just to get a feel that whether I got a good deal or not. But of course, the value of these vintage decks are constantly changing as time passes.
Yeah that's the site I use to date my opened decks too. Otherwise how would you think I got the 1946? ;)
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That Leaf deck is absolutely phenomenal!!! We're going to have to talk about that deck my friend!!! It was one of the few early Bicycle Brand decks that had nothing to do with bicycles... It's just beautiful...
The Uncle Sam decks were given to men and women in the armed forces in 1945 so they weren't taxed... You wouldn't find the No Tax Stamp on a Bicycle deck or any other decks that weren't produced specifically for the military... From an eBay listing, "There is no advertising of the maker's name on the box but everyone knew who made 'Bicycle' playing cards. Also, because they were intended for use by men and women in the armed forces there was no tax that had to be paid." Nice Score Digipunk!!! Keep your scope on one for me... Thanks!!!
@ Alex... That Sealed Tally-Ho Tax Stamp will forever haunt me... Our first battle not having known each other... Damned eBay mobile... It just waves to me from the screen... hahaha... I remain searching for my favorite brand in vintage form...
& I guess now I'm going to have to post some pics...
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That Leaf deck is absolutely phenomenal!!! We're going to have to talk about that deck my friend!!! It was one of the few early Bicycle Brand decks that had nothing to do with bicycles... It's just beautiful...
The Uncle Sam decks were given to men and women in the armed forces in 1945 so they weren't taxed... You wouldn't find the No Tax Stamp on a Bicycle deck or any other decks that weren't produced specifically for the military... From an eBay listing, "There is no advertising of the maker's name on the box but everyone knew who made 'Bicycle' playing cards. Also, because they were intended for use by men and women in the armed forces there was no tax that had to be paid." Nice Score Digipunk!!! Keep your scope on one for me... Thanks!!!
@ Alex... That Sealed Tally-Ho Tax Stamp will forever haunt me... Our first battle not having known each other... Damned eBay mobile... It just waves to me from the screen... hahaha... I remain searching for my favorite brand in vintage form...
& I guess now I'm going to have to post some pics...
I've got a few more that's not bicycle related, Bicycle branded vintage deck that I'll post later. But before that, you gonna show us some of yours!
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I'm not familiar with the casino decks, but is the World Blackjack Sahara deck THE Sahara deck that all the vintage card collectors are crazy about?
I am have not paid much attention to the vintage card collecting market, so I am not sure.
Here is pictures of an opened one of the decks: http://www.magiccastleauctions.com/102728,auction_id,auction_details (http://www.magiccastleauctions.com/102728,auction_id,auction_details)
Hmm that doesn't seem to be the one. Maybe someone here can give us insights into these casino decks? @jmrock? @Don/Good@Sabacc?
What little I know of vintage decks, I learned from the same sources you guys use - Hochman and the Internet. And my copy of Hochman is in storage - fiancee's apartment is small.
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1. Miniature Decks c. 1917 - 1940
2. Bee Worm Backs
2. Various Bee Tax Stamp Decks c. 1920 - 1965
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Haven't figured out how the pictures post along with the words, but I posted the following:
Early 1900s Miniature Decks
Various Bee Tax Stamp Decks c. 1920 - 1965
Bee Worm Backs - c. ?
The miniature ones are the Little Dukes eh? I've seen them readily on eBay recently.
I remember from some other forum that the Worm Backs are quite rare! Not to mention in sealed condition. Great find!
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Posting my oldest and rarest complete deck w/ box - 1883 USPC Steamboats... I love the others as well...
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My 1930s Bicycle Post...
1. My Baby - The Lotus Back (One of the first Non-Bicycle themed decks)
2. Racer Back Set
3. League Back
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Posting my oldest and rarest complete deck w/ box - 1883 USPC Steamboats... I love the others as well...
Damn! 1883?! You're talking about the one on the right yes? I've never seen this deck before.
According to a reference site, the name "Russell & Morgan Co." was used between 1881 and 1885. Did any one of those earliest tax stamp come on the tuckbox?
The left most seem to be printed between 1894 to 1917.
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My 1930s Bicycle Post...
1. My Baby - The Lotus Back (One of the first Non-Bicycle themed decks)
2. Racer Back Set
3. League Back
More sealed decks! How I wish I could get my hands on those sealed ones. But sometimes they are so expensive that they're out of my reach!
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My 1930s Bicycle Post...
1. My Baby - The Lotus Back (One of the first Non-Bicycle themed decks)
2. Racer Back Set
3. League Back
More sealed decks! How I wish I could get my hands on those sealed ones. But sometimes they are so expensive that they're out of my reach!
Ohh.. it's simply a gloomy collection without the Bicycle War Series :-\ :-\
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Digi - Boooooh! Talk about raining on the parade... hahaha...
I shot my nut there... I guess I should have led up to those, huh?
I didn't post the Bicycle Gold Edge Racer Backs yet... When would I date those?
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My 1930s Bicycle Post...
1. My Baby - The Lotus Back (One of the first Non-Bicycle themed decks)
2. Racer Back Set
3. League Back
More sealed decks! How I wish I could get my hands on those sealed ones. But sometimes they are so expensive that they're out of my reach!
Ohh.. it's simply a gloomy collection without the Bicycle War Series :-\ :-\
Ah I so want those in my hands. Any one of you want to fund me?! ;D
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I didn't post the Bicycle Gold Edge Racer Backs yet... When would I date those?
1981 ;)
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Digi - Boooooh! Talk about raining on the parade... hahaha...
I shot my nut there... I guess I should have led up to those, huh?
I didn't post the Bicycle Gold Edge Racer Backs yet... When would I date those?
I've always had that question. Between what years did USPCC print their decks with gilded edges?
Easiest way to tell the year of your deck would probably be the tax stamp, but that would only give you a range. Besides that, I don't have any other ways of dating it unfortunately.
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I didn't post the Bicycle Gold Edge Racer Backs yet... When would I date those?
1981 ;)
How did you know the exact year? :-\
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He sold them to me... hahaha!!!
Edit: But that would be an incredible gift right? I just tell him the name of the deck and he knows when it was made... Who needs Hochman, when you've got Digipunk...
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He sold them to me... hahaha!!!
Edit: But that would be an incredible gift right? I just tell him the name of the deck and he knows when it was made... Who needs Hochman, when you've got Digipunk...
Lol! Guess it was an opened deck?
I wish I've got that talent. Then I wouldn't have to open my sealed decks to know when they were produced. :P
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@ sxjy... Did you know the guy I bought the 1883 Steamboats from won that deck and an identical mint deck at a country western auction for $130 (Both Decks). Again, there you have an auction - nothing to do with playing cards, and they're sitting on gold and just don't know it... Amazing!!!
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@ sxjy... Did you know the guy I bought the 1883 Steamboats from won that deck and an identical mint deck at a country western auction for $130 (Both Decks). Again, there you have an auction - nothing to do with playing cards, and they're sitting on gold and just don't know it... Amazing!!!
Sometimes I just wish I'm in the States where all these auctions take place, where you people could dig gold outta junk piles in exchange for coins! (Though most of the times I'd rather stay away from the country for various reasons.)
By the way, what happened to the mint deck?
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I didn't post the Bicycle Gold Edge Racer Backs yet... When would I date those?
1981 ;)
How did you know the exact year? :-\
"Salvation lies within" quoted from the 1995 movie The Shawshank Redemption.
(http://pic.yupoo.com/notyhsu/BINqfDsV/UVefg.jpg)
(http://pic.yupoo.com/notyhsu/BINqm8pl/EHsrg.jpg)
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The range of the stamp is generally good, but it's that 1940 - 1965 stamp that bothers me... It's such a range... It would be nice to know if a deck was from WWII or when we sent our troops to Vietnam... a quarter of a century is a long time...
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@ sxjy - He kept the mint deck... I tried, but he wasn't hearing it... Kind of how you feel about the Leaf Deck.. hahaha...
@ digi - Those are some sick bricks...
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@digipunk
No way. You're hanging on to two bricks of gold edges Racer Backs?!
Oh look there! *Snatches them away* ???
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@ sxjy - He kept the mint deck... I tried, but he wasn't hearing it... Kind of how you feel about the Leaf Deck.. hahaha...
Don't blame me! Blame the designer of the deck for creating such a classic and elegant deck! 8)
Edit: Something to add to my first post in the thread (the Leaf Backs). I'm not sure why I didn't post it along with the few pictures. Apologies for the effect. I used it for a contest, and lost the original file. ><
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01556.jpg)
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@digipunk
No way. You're hanging on to two bricks of gold edges Racer Backs?!
Oh look there! *Snatches them away* ???
Thank God you don't know I have another brick of non-Gold Edges Racers >:( >:(
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@digipunk
No way. You're hanging on to two bricks of gold edges Racer Backs?!
Oh look there! *Snatches them away* ???
Thank God you don't know I have another brick of non-Gold Edges Racers >:( >:(
Now I do! :-[
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This is my oldest deck, A. Dougherty's Steamboat No. 0, but it is so lowly if compared with jmrock's Steamboat 999 :(
It seems to have been wrapped with paper instead of being sealed by a tax stamp.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6ij0qpBH-j0/TpM1c6OIDJI/AAAAAAAAA-4/k_-pWdZB62Q/s500/01.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e9eAp5SeE0I/TpM1dM3pPlI/AAAAAAAAA_A/-p2kL7pAcX0/s502/02.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D6YDAG5SW7E/TpM1dMirKVI/AAAAAAAAA-8/YWoLWzOmOtg/s500/03.jpg)
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So I know the Tiger #101 is the first brand by Russell & Morgan Co., but this No. 0. What does it mean? How does it differ from the No.999?
I don't think it's actually more recent than jmrock's Steamboat No.999! A. Dougherty manufactured cards between 1848-1930. Your deck could very well be before his 1883!
Edit: I did some search and found out your No.0 wasn't produced until 1900, whilst the Steamboat 999 is 1883-1891. I guess his deck is older then...
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So I know the Tiger #101 is the first brand by Russell & Morgan Co., but this No. 0. What does it mean? How does it differ from the No.999?
I don't think it's actually more recent than jmrock's Steamboat No.999! A. Dougherty manufactured cards between 1848-1930. Your deck could very well be before his 1883!
All manufacturers had their own Steamboat brands, Steamboat 0, Steamboat 7-11, Steamboat 999, etc.
Steamboat No. 0 was first introduced by A. Dougherty in 1985, the same year as they produced Tally Ho. But this deck might not be produced in the very first year, it looks more like 1900.
See also: http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01842/d01842.htm (http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01842/d01842.htm)
And the Hochman Encyclopedia of American Playing Cards is always the best reference:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UAVDGFvwZjc/TrINMxjze8I/AAAAAAAACqQ/EqEjmeyaf-E/s500/11.jpg)
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Yeah I did catch that after doing some research, and came across that page too. I've editted my post already :P
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One more deck for the showcase:
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01629.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01630.jpg)
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@sxjy0109, all your decks are very cool :-[ :-[
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@sxjy0109, all your decks are very cool :-[ :-[
Glad you like them! Hopefully some more people would appreciate these vintage decks. ;D
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Those stag backs are awesome looking! I would love to get those if they had a reprint of them.
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Those stag backs are awesome looking! I would love to get those if they had a reprint of them.
They definitely are! I wouldn't be surprised if they do, seeing they've got 4 series of Bicycle reprints already in the past few years.
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@sxjy - Those are a couple of incredibly cool and rare decks... Bicycle Stag Back... Wow!!!
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@sxjy - Those are a couple of incredibly cool and rare decks... Bicycle Stag Back... Wow!!!
Thank you! I've got a few more coming up soon. Keep an eye on the thread!
Meanwhile, you and other people should post your vintage collections too! 8)
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@sxjy0109, all your decks are very cool :-[ :-[
Glad you like them! Hopefully some more people would appreciate these vintage decks. ;D
...so we can snipe you in the next eBay bidding war? :))
The vintage decks are very cool, but collecting them gets expensive, fast. I got into cards because I was getting into card magic - I don't know about you, but I don't see myself doing a lot of magic with vintage decks! I satisfy myself with looking at the cool examples that you guys are presenting here.
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...so we can snipe you in the next eBay bidding war?
The vintage decks are very cool, but collecting them gets expensive, fast. I got into cards because I was getting into card magic - I don't know about you, but I don't see myself doing a lot of magic with vintage decks! I satisfy myself with looking at the cool examples that you guys are presenting here.
lol hopefully they'll merely appreciate them, and not get into collecting. Otherwise like you said, I'll probably be sniped out in the auctions.
Yeah most of the times they don't come in cheap, at all. I'm a collector, but nevertheless, I don't see ANYONE doing magic with vintage decks. They'd be destroying the evidences of history!
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...so we can snipe you in the next eBay bidding war?
The vintage decks are very cool, but collecting them gets expensive, fast. I got into cards because I was getting into card magic - I don't know about you, but I don't see myself doing a lot of magic with vintage decks! I satisfy myself with looking at the cool examples that you guys are presenting here.
lol hopefully they'll merely appreciate them, and not get into collecting. Otherwise like you said, I'll probably be sniped out in the auctions.
Yeah most of the times they don't come in cheap, at all. I'm a collector, but nevertheless, I don't see ANYONE doing magic with vintage decks. They'd be destroying the evidences of history!
Well, there's also the fact that Magic Finish beats anything previous hands down - this coming from a guy who's never handled a Jerry's Nugget, but that's really a major exception.
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Well, there's also the fact that Magic Finish beats anything previous hands down - this coming from a guy who's never handled a Jerry's Nugget, but that's really a major exception.
That's probably one of the few things that has been improved over the time in the playing card industry. I'd really love to play with some of these vintage-design decks with Magic Finish.
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Well, there's also the fact that Magic Finish beats anything previous hands down - this coming from a guy who's never handled a Jerry's Nugget, but that's really a major exception.
That's probably one of the few things that has been improved over the time in the playing card industry. I'd really love to play with some of these vintage-design decks with Magic Finish.
Well then, do like what Zenneth Kok and several others are doing - pick a classic deck design and order a custom run! People love these limited edition print runs of classic designs, and the New Fan Back was a fantastic choice done very well, with unique color combinations not previously used. Imagine your favorite deck in your favorite color with Magic Finish, and perhaps even a stock upgrade...
If you couldn't get a good Kickstarter project going, perhaps you'd find a private investor willing to take a shot. BMPokerWorld has at least two deck designs out that I know of, with a third on the way - their first was super simple: brown Rider Backs. Other major deck dealers often have custom print runs made to sell in their shops and to other dealers. Pick the right design and colors, you may even be able to get a prominent magic shop or vintage card dealer to get in on the action. Imagine something like red-on-black Tally Ho circle or fan backs... Sweet... [drool]... Maybe with outline pips instead of solid ones... Use a really bright red, something that will pop against the back, and perhaps something other than white for the black suits, like electric blue or neon green... Or you can take a classic 19th-century design and do a "Series 1800/Americana" on it! The possibilities are practically limitless. And you'd even have the option of creating magic versions, like strippers, marked decks, Mirage decks, etc.
Investment-wise, it wouldn't take an insane amount of cash. The right design, done attractively with high-performance materials and Q1 quality control - you could make a good deal of money. It wouldn't be easy, but since when is anything worthwhile in life easy?
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Well then, do like what Zenneth Kok and several others are doing - pick a classic deck design and order a custom run! People love these limited edition print runs of classic designs, and the New Fan Back was a fantastic choice done very well, with unique color combinations not previously used. Imagine your favorite deck in your favorite color with Magic Finish, and perhaps even a stock upgrade...
I do really appreciate what Zenneth has done there. I've gotten myself two sets of them when they were first released. The back design is ought to be one of the most applauded amongst the users seeing that they were pretty common and easy to contain even as vintage decks, and I'm talking about pre-1980's.
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@ sxjy - He kept the mint deck... I tried, but he wasn't hearing it... Kind of how you feel about the Leaf Deck.. hahaha...
Don't blame me! Blame the designer of the deck for creating such a classic and elegant deck! 8)
Edit: Something to add to my first post in the thread (the Leaf Backs). I'm not sure why I didn't post it along with the few pictures. Apologies for the effect. I used it for a contest, and lost the original file. ><
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01556.jpg)
I came across this info about this deck...
"[/color][color=e4c7a3]This design is probably the rarest of all Bicycle decks. Only a couple of full decks are known to exist, and it was not included in Mrs. Robinson's exhaustive catalog of Bicycle cards in 1955."
Taken from here http://www.cypressfilms.com/bicycle/82/red.html
Wow, I didn't know that. I really need to start collecting vintage Bicycle decks. 82 different back designs... in multiple colors... I have a very long and expensive road ahead of me.
sigh
CBJ
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Yeah I'm trying to stay away from anything vintage. It would be much too expensive! Also I would need to invest in a great way to keep them safe and in good condition all while displaying them.
I really hope that they do reprint the Stag back! It's one of my favorite old Bicycle backs. I'd be sure to get a brick or so of them if they did.
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Wow those Oak Leaf cards are beautiful! I'd buy those if they were printed in large numbers :-*
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lol chill guys. The one I've got is the Leaf Back. It's not actually the RARE Oak Leaf that Mrs. Robinson didn't mention in her handbook. The Oad Leaf was discovered in 1980's, and was unknown till then. The handbook was written in 1955.
Apparently the Leaf Back was the last one of the 81 (or 82 if you include Oak Leaf) to be introduced by the USPCC.
As for the Stag Back, introduced in 1927, and also one of the non-bicycle related designs.
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I received a package this morning (shown in another thread (http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=1625.msg27491;topicseen#msg27491)), and now I have a pair of Bicycle Playboy:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Fir8nTNkCsw/TzE3o2IhhHI/AAAAAAAADls/cjMjuov8oVc/s500/02.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1geJGN4DGkM/TzE3r2QColI/AAAAAAAADmE/OQ0ADwgVVNg/s500/05.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aEIhn-Mj7RE/TzE3rgNF7mI/AAAAAAAADl8/7pPsIqdKGfE/s500/03.jpg)
And tax stamp sealed Aristocrat 727 Back No.1 and No.3
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f3UmTgdavm0/TzE3taRAPYI/AAAAAAAADmQ/O3wejLOaqqU/s500/06.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TarbgzYyviI/TzE3ujoAJoI/AAAAAAAADmY/DYfw35JwBg8/s500/07.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nIrSnqqZrKE/TzE3vZim2iI/AAAAAAAADmk/nLJ6TdEwbX8/s500/08.jpg)
Hadn't I sold several 727s to my fellow collectors here...
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XrgsILKBsu4/TzE3vv8ImxI/AAAAAAAADmg/xJoS3XEwPCw/s500/09.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-CsohxYx7Kr0/TzE3wuNWPmI/AAAAAAAADms/8G3JCGweYpM/s500/10.jpg)
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I don't have antique decks, but this is a "supersaturated attack":
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vSeWML-Bk4U/TzFtKaSlwtI/AAAAAAAADnI/jTiz6wJuImQ/s500/00.jpg)
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I don't have antique decks, but this is a "supersaturated attack":
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vSeWML-Bk4U/TzFtKaSlwtI/AAAAAAAADnI/jTiz6wJuImQ/s500/00.jpg)
Wow, and I wish I have 1 deck worth more than 10$...
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I don't have antique decks, but this is a "supersaturated attack":
o.O
Now that's a gold brick.
By the way, someone sniped a good deck today. Is it anyone in the forum?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260946822799?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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Brick? Funny thing is there are 15 decks in there! :D
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Brick? Funny thing is there are 15 decks in there! :D
Actually 16. Some large box you got there digipunk.
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Oh, well, it's official: I don't know how to to count.
Edit: Or to write, either.
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It's a misdirection... I thought no one would notice the box :-\ :-\
These boxes came from Japan, they are thicker than the normal brick box and may contain 16 decks.
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These boxes came from Japan, they are thicker than the normal brick box and may contain 16 decks.
How did you get a hold of them?
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I don't have antique decks, but this is a "supersaturated attack":
o.O
Now that's a gold brick.
By the way, someone sniped a good deck today. Is it anyone in the forum?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260946822799?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/260946822799?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
You are right. The sniper is the person who posted most pics of his vintage decks here. :-X
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How did you get a hold of them?
They came with the decks I bought :'(
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haha it's like a card collector's dozen :P
That's is an awesome gold brick + 4! I've never had any golden nuggets but I've heard good things.
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Let's get another one in!
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01631.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01632.jpg)
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There's a big reason why I could never really get into collecting vintage cards. I would want to PLAY with them! I wouldn't want to leave them sealed! The only two vintage decks I have are Arrco-made cards with pattern-finished Streamline backs from the 1960's that I got from Alex. And I PLAY with them! I take care of them, sure, but I don't treat them like museum pieces. It would be way too difficult for me to not open them and play with them - a sealed vintage deck in my hands would be ripe fruit on the vine!
Must open seal... Must open seal... Must open seal...
:))
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There's a big reason why I could never really get into collecting vintage cards. I would want to PLAY with them! I wouldn't want to leave them sealed! The only two vintage decks I have are Arrco-made cards with pattern-finished Streamline backs from the 1960's that I got from Alex. And I PLAY with them! I take care of them, sure, but I don't treat them like museum pieces. It would be way too difficult for me to not open them and play with them - a sealed vintage deck in my hands would be ripe fruit on the vine!
Must open seal... Must open seal... Must open seal...
Haha that's may be the reason why I never put the time into practicing magic or flourishing so I could withstand the temptation of opening those sealed vintage decks.
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Haha that's may be the reason why I never put the time into practicing magic or flourishing so I could withstand the temptation of opening those sealed vintage decks.
Oh, it's not just magic - I love playing solitaire! Since I started collecting, I've become very fond of the act of opening a new, sealed deck...
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There's a big reason why I could never really get into collecting vintage cards. I would want to PLAY with them! I wouldn't want to leave them sealed! The only two vintage decks I have are Arrco-made cards with pattern-finished Streamline backs from the 1960's that I got from Alex. And I PLAY with them! I take care of them, sure, but I don't treat them like museum pieces. It would be way too difficult for me to not open them and play with them - a sealed vintage deck in my hands would be ripe fruit on the vine!
Must open seal... Must open seal... Must open seal...
You can open any vintage deck you get. Why not? At least I opened GNs with different colors and some other tax stamp decks. Actually I maintain a blog to share experiences with my fellow collectors here, every time I opened a vintage deck I also took pics to show the full process (of how I killed a deck). I believe most vintage collectors buy modern decks too, there is no conflict between collecting vintage decks and using modern decks. ;)
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Let's get another one in!
[pics of Bicycle Lotus Back]
haha... another beautiful deck. Does that 'H' mean 1926?
BTW, do you know jimmy? He had collected swaps of all 82 Bicycle backs.... ;)
I don't have any deck that can compare to yours, so here is another wave of saturated attack:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VF6DonHdHok/TqbbfY2tMWI/AAAAAAAACHc/koKS43cDsJs/s500/07.jpg)
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The funny thing is that I feel the same way as Don. If I buy a deck, it is for 1 of 3 reasons:
either:
1) Opening it right away and using it
2) Reselling it once it is worth more
3) Keeping it sealed and opening it later on.
Hopefully, since I am not into collecting vintage decks, I can buy about 10 new decks for the price of a vintage one.
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Those Orignal Fake decks are awesome!! Such an expensive set. One day I'll own a set of them! >:(
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Those Orignal Fake decks are awesome!! Such an expensive set. One day I'll own a set of them! >:(
@brown_baggs, not expensive at all, really, or I would not buy so many. I can not get them with the same price any more, but... I swear they were not expensive when I got them from a Japanese friend. (sorry I can not say the price here for certain reasons...)
You guys should know the price of these decks is manipulated by the clothing sellers. They sell these decks for such a high price on auctions, but actually these decks are valueless between the clothing sellers...
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Ah I'm still looking to get a set of those OF decks. Wish I had connections in Japan to get them inexpensively :(
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You can open any vintage deck you get. Why not? At least I opened GNs with different colors and some other tax stamp decks. Actually I maintain a blog to share experiences with my fellow collectors here, every time I opened a vintage deck I also took pics to show the full process (of how I killed a deck). I believe most vintage collectors buy modern decks too, there is no conflict between collecting vintage decks and using modern decks. ;)
You open tax stamp decks?! o.O
Show me the link to your blog, I wanna see!
I'm not sure if most vintage collectors buy contemporary decks, but I do. I'm collecting Bicycle branded cards, and hence the Leaf, Stag and Lotus back (there're a few more!).
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The funny thing is that I feel the same way as Don. If I buy a deck, it is for 1 of 3 reasons:
either:
1) Opening it right away and using it
2) Reselling it once it is worth more
3) Keeping it sealed and opening it later on.
Hopefully, since I am not into collecting vintage decks, I can buy about 10 new decks for the price of a vintage one.
You see, if you look at it this way, you would be into collecting vintage decks too. As the year goes by, the value of these vintage decks increases, and they'll worth more. Maybe when you're not into it anymore, you'll resell and gain profit!
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Those Orignal Fake decks are awesome!! Such an expensive set. One day I'll own a set of them! >:(
@brown_baggs, not expensive at all, really, or I would not buy so many. I can not get them with the same price any more, but... I swear they were not expensive when I got them from a Japanese friend. (sorry I can not say the price here for certain reasons...)
You guys should know the price of these decks is manipulated by the clothing sellers. They sell these decks for such a high price on auctions, but actually these decks are valueless between the clothing sellers...
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well I was saying they are expensive on ebay and stuff. It's hard to find them for cheap. I really want to get a set! If you have a set of all the colors I would be more than interested in a trade or buying them from you!! Just let me know in a PM, thanks!
and sxjy0109 try to make one long post instead of 4 individual ones, it makes it the thread a little cluttered. Thanks
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The funny thing is that I feel the same way as Don. If I buy a deck, it is for 1 of 3 reasons:
either:
1) Opening it right away and using it
2) Reselling it once it is worth more
3) Keeping it sealed and opening it later on.
Hopefully, since I am not into collecting vintage decks, I can buy about 10 new decks for the price of a vintage one.
You see, if you look at it this way, you would be into collecting vintage decks too. As the year goes by, the value of these vintage decks increases, and they'll worth more. Maybe when you're not into it anymore, you'll resell and gain profit!
No. I always tell friends: "don't collect vintage decks, they are too dangerous."
Believe it or not, 2 years ago I thought the same as NathanCanadas until I got a Golden Nugget for curiosity. I can not control myself from then on. My dear friends, stay away from those vintage decks as far as possible. Once you start, you can not stop.
@sxjy0109: Leaf Back, Stag Back, and Lotus Back, will your next deck happen to be an Acorn Back?
@brown_baggs: Sorry. I can not sell these decks, nor can I get them with the same price. One year ago, when I got the 9 decks, I opened one to use (apparently you know which color I opened from the pic). However, 2 months ago, I sold the spare RED+BLUE to jmrock and the PINK to a collector in Brazil. So now I have only an opened RED and a full set that are reserved to myself.
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Ah! Bummer I guess I'll just have to wait to find a good deal on the set or just collect them one by one. All in good time :)
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No. I always tell friends: "don't collect vintage decks, they are too dangerous."
Believe it or not, 2 years ago I thought the same as NathanCanadas until I got a Golden Nugget for curiosity. I can not control myself from then on. My dear friends, stay away from those vintage decks as far as possible. Once you start, you can not stop.
@sxjy0109: Leaf Back, Stag Back, and Lotus Back, will your next deck happen to be an Acorn Back?
I get what you mean. I've been doing searches on eBay every other day to see if there're any vintage decks on auction.
How did you know? Must have been a wild, lucky guess. I'm going to post a different deck just because you said that. lol :-[
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@Digipunk does the Original Fake deck have custom court cards? This has been one question that has always bothered me but I've never been able to find pictures of the court cards before.
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@Digipunk does the Original Fake deck have custom court cards? This has been one question that has always bothered me but I've never been able to find pictures of the court cards before.
Good question. Unfortunately they don't have custom court cards. There are 1 regular joker, 2 custom jokers, and 1 blank face gaff. These cards were not made with quality stock, handled just like 808 produced by the KY factory in their first year, soft and thin. They can not fan well due to the coating, but no problem with faro or other magic sleights.
Ahh... I used the blank face card to make a double backer :o
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xj1kxB9cG8g/TzMKrvRN21I/AAAAAAAADnY/67DCt2xTl3Q/s500/01.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AFintjpwS5w/TqWEcH_urmI/AAAAAAAACGY/1OStI2wMKtk/s500/08.jpg)
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Wow. Those are some nice cards! How much do they cost?
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@ Digi... Thanks for the Red & Blue... The others I picked up from a seller overseas - $300 in the U.S. for the set is unacceptable... They're great decks... The OriginalFake stuff is priced high, but if you like a decks... Take the hit... Time will heal your pockets... It always does...
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That's too bad! It would have been awesome to see some Kaws faces on those court cards! Such a talented artist and it would have made for such a great deck!
@jmrock yeah $300 is insane for the set. I'm still hunting for a good deal on these...
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That's too bad! It would have been awesome to see some Kaws faces on those court cards! Such a talented artist and it would have made for such a great deck!
Yes, but it is comprehensible. We all know they were gifts with each purchase in excess of ￥10,000 JPY at OriginalFake Aoyama, not designed for performers or collectors.
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That's too bad! It would have been awesome to see some Kaws faces on those court cards! Such a talented artist and it would have made for such a great deck!
Yes, but it is comprehensible. We all know they were gifts with each purchase in excess of ￥10,000 JPY at OriginalFake Aoyama, not designed for performers or collectors.
That's true although Kaws is the type of artists to throw those faces in there, so I was surprised that he didn't on the deck. It's still a very nice looking deck nonetheless. The jokers look awesome!
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What's more is that I think all 5 decks are the same within. And by that I mean the colours too. You'd think each deck would have the corresponding coloured backs, but no. They're all red.
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@sxjy0109, Acorn Back!! Show us the Acorn Back! How could you sit there watching people talking about the Original Fake? >:(
@brown_bagg, here are more pic I took 4 months ago. I posted them on the blog and added a note above every pic: "inexplicablely expensive!" :P
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-f38adgREJ8M/TqbbcEtG6xI/AAAAAAAACHA/h5YB-mESP5w/s500/03.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bsvUsTz8spw/Tqbbd8eqvNI/AAAAAAAACHY/7hpmaidZR7w/s500/05.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VZF2zaLY0nE/TqbbcPk0--I/AAAAAAAACHE/3otY6maRnv4/s500/04.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qJRfbh2oZuA/TqbbfJOKKUI/AAAAAAAACHg/prDQiOn149E/s500/06.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ds8_GqfzMok/Tqbbc1oi6cI/AAAAAAAACHI/G0VRVanI4Kg/s500/01.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B7xcndi6e0s/Tqbbg7zYr-I/AAAAAAAACHw/CJmwyRK4V68/s500/08.jpg)
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As per @digipunk's request:
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/CIMG2244.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01638.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01639.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01640.jpg)
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"Inexplicably expensive". Well said, totally represents the way I feel about the Original Fakes. How old is that Acorn Back? Do you know? And how much does it cost?
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What's more is that I think all 5 decks are the same within. And by that I mean the colours too. You'd think each deck would have the corresponding coloured backs, but no. They're all red.
I respect any one's choice to buy these decks, but here is my opinion. Wait, so these decks cost more than 50$ apiece, and all look the same except for the box? So, if they also don't have custom court cards, then what are you paying for? A little additional guy on a normal bicycle back and a box? Wow. What people these days would do to get more money... and then amazing decks like the Tendril and Vortex and Americana decks cost about 9$, with all the time their creators spent in making them? Unbelievable in my opinion.
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It's either 1924 or 1925. As for the cost, it's hard to estimate the market value of vintage decks. Sometimes you could find good deals of $30 a deck, sometimes they go over the hundred.
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@sxjy0109, I like Acorn Back much, it's so elegant. I think it's 1922-25 according to the tax stamp and the company name on the AoS. :)
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Wow... What a deck... $30 my @$$!!! That's a heavy $ deck!!! Complete with Jokers?
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The acorn deck is pretty nice looking!! I love the look of many of these vintage decks.
The OF decks are all the same color but in different boxes!! ??? I had no idea about that. That's a game changer haha. I'll probably just aim to get two red boxes then. What the point in getting the whole set if they are all the same!? Ridiculous...
Thanks for the information though, it's really enlightening.
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The OF decks are all the same color but in different boxes!! ??? I had no idea about that.
They have five different colors.
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What's more is that I think all 5 decks are the same within. And by that I mean the colours too. You'd think each deck would have the corresponding coloured backs, but no. They're all red.
Is that true? You mean to tell me that the Black Box OriginalFakes do not contain cards with black backs... Yellow / Yellow... etc...? Does anyone know the truth? There seems to be conflicting information, and I'm not about to open my set to find out if there are five different colors...
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Okay yeah I'd like to get to bottom of that little mystery! It would be ridiculous if they were all red backed cards in different color boxes, but that seems to be the case (pun). Can anybody clear this one up?
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I looked everywhere, literally, and I didn't find any details on that. And in all of the pictures I have seen, the decks are red. Sry.
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I looked everywhere, literally, and I didn't find any details on that. And in all of the pictures I have seen, the decks are red. Sry.
Yeah that was sort of established. Many of us have looked into this deck a great deal, but there really aren't any pictures showing an open black deck or pink deck. I assume from the pictures the cards are from a red deck since the backs are red but it's hard to tell.
Has anybody opened a different color box of these? If somebody has we'll be able to tell if the backs are the same color as the box or not.
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So I just resealed my vintage decks in cellophane and not only do they look sexier in my collection, but the boxes are now protected. I advise all of you vintage collectors to invest in a resealer. However, if you are selling the deck, point out that it was resealed for protection to avoid people calling you out on scamming. ;)
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Hey Alex,
I had two questions regarding the resealer:
1) Does it work as neat as a normal sealed deck?
2) Where did you find yours? (I looked on google but didn't find any promising results).
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Hey Alex,
I had two questions regarding the resealer:
1) Does it work as neat as a normal sealed deck?
2) Where did you find yours? (I looked on google but didn't find any promising results).
I'm about 99% sure they sell them on magicgeek.com
EDIT: Yup. Here ya go. http://www.magicgeek.com/wonder-sealer-2381.html
Here are refills, and at 10 cents each: http://www.magicgeek.com/wonder-sealer-cellophane-refill-2413.html
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Thank you, I found it. Here are the links:
1) Deck Seals
http://www.magicgeek.com/deck-seal-2386.html
2) Deck Sealer
http://www.magicgeek.com/wonder-sealer-2381.html
3) Sealer Refills
http://www.magicgeek.com/wonder-sealer-cellophane-refill-2413.html
Wow, I think I should buy one!
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Penguin magic has them for cheaper, and they even drew me a picture of an elephant after I requested it!
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Penguin magic has them for cheaper, and they even drew me a picture of an elephant after I requested it!
I can't find it. Can you send me the link plz?
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Hi Alex, would you mind showing the decks you resealed?
Actually I know the resealer and it is not expensive here (around 500 NTD), I guess it is made in China. One of my friends was very interested in it because he likes to perform memorized stack tricks (both Aronson and Tamariz stack), I don't know if he bought the resealer then. If you may show us some pics of the resealed decks, I will reconsider it if they look good enough. Thank you.
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haha Nathan just reposted Loldudex2's links. Alrighty then... :P
That's looks pretty interesting. It's not as expensive as I would have thought. I might be interested in getting on of those down the line for some of the decks that I have that don't have any protection. Thanks for the info guys!
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@Nathan, it's pretty easy. Just take some time to do your search. It took me 45 seconds to find it.
Here's the link... http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S13576 (http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S13576)
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haha Nathan just reposted Loldudex2's links. Alrighty then... :P
That's looks pretty interesting. It's not as expensive as I would have thought. I might be interested in getting on of those down the line for some of the decks that I have that don't have any protection. Thanks for the info guys!
Hey, actually, I wanted to tell you that Loldudex2 just edited his post but didn't have the links when I posted. You can ask him. And you just posted twice. Thx for the link.
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jmrock, brown_baggs, sxjy0109, nathan, or anyone who's curious about the colors of OF cards : I will open the blue deck today. >:( >:(
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@Digipunk: I am waiting for my camera to arrive from Amazon (they've messed up my order twice now!) and I will post a video tutorial on how to use the resealer and I'll show off some of the sealed decks I have.
Suffice to say, the decks look like they were factory sealed. The ONLY downside is that the cellophane has a clear tear-away strip as opposed to the vintage red. This makes it look less authentic. However, I rewrapped one of my Jaqk decks from T11 and compared it their wrap-job. Mine was more neat, but the two both look completely new.
It's tricky to use at first though. I wasted about eight pieces of cellophane because of how they're packed (it's hard to tell if you have two pieces or one piece until after you heat it). When I started this morning, it took me about 10-20 minutes to wrap a deck. Now I can do it in about 30 seconds. :)
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jmrock, brown_baggs, sxjy0109, nathan, or anyone who's curious about the colors of OF cards : I will open the blue deck today. >:( >:(
Yes!! It'll be nice to know the answer to this little mystery. If they are all the same color I plan on only getting two of the reds, but if they are all unique in color I'll get the whole set. A lot is riding on this ;) I'm guessing they are all different colors.
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Resealing the decks...Hmm.. This would make my (and others') life of collecting harder if we couldn't differentiate between the authentic decks and the resealed ones. Imagine someone played with, say a Garden Set, resealed it and sold it for $350. :S
jmrock, brown_baggs, sxjy0109, nathan, or anyone who's curious about the colors of OF cards : I will open the blue deck today. >:( >:(
You really don't have to, if it's just to find out the colour inside. I'm sure we could find someone who has an opened deck. You'd decrease the value of a sealed deck by so much you may regret it. o.O
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Well, for vintage decks the instant giveaway is the tear band, which is usually red or has the brand on it.
For newer decks, it's extremely easy to counterfeit. I resealed that Jaqk deck perfectly. However, ignorance is bliss. I doubt if you got sold a Cage Garden deck you'd open it. It goes along with all the fake Jerry's that are almost identical to the originals. As far as you and everyone else you know is concerned, you have the real thing.
Of course, buying a resealer costs money so I doubt you'll have random kids resealing commonly used decks and selling them. Even the refills cost extra and 10 cents per wrapper doesn't seem like much but when you consider how easy it is to make a mistake...
Anyway, point is, I'm glad I found a way to protect my goodies. :D
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jmrock, brown_baggs, sxjy0109, nathan, or anyone who's curious about the colors of OF cards : I will open the blue deck today. >:( >:(
@sxjy, I got another BLUE FO from a girl seller on Taiwan auctions with sweet price. She bought the deck because the deck is cute and she likes Original Fake clothing, but she is not a playing card collector after all -- when a non-collector owns a deck we want, we crafty SOB card collectors will get it from him/her anyway ???
Here we go, I would like to post the pics this afternoon (10:44pm now), but the forum was down then.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ytsvrPWGPN8/TzYf__GzmSI/AAAAAAAADow/fAEqwm8kTrA/s500/01.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2QkKpvJA_NU/TzYf9LBDIgI/AAAAAAAADog/FaCqIConIB4/s500/02.jpg)
Take a deep breath before you click the link:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Hg3WRL9K1bw/TzYf9dawzSI/AAAAAAAADok/2BG-gYmL43g/s500/03.jpg (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Hg3WRL9K1bw/TzYf9dawzSI/AAAAAAAADok/2BG-gYmL43g/s500/03.jpg)
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Ah you should've sold it to me! Lol
But anyway, I did remember that I was told the decks were the same, and that proves it. ;)
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@alex, the resealer sounds better than I expected. :o
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Ah you should've sold it to me! Lol
But anyway, I did remember that I was told the decks were the same, and that proves it. ;)
Only opening it by myself, can I believe the cards are RED in whole series boxes. I wanted to know the fact too. I ever thought should I told you first, but things happened so suddenly. I simply tested the seller without placing much hope in it...
The deck in the pics was mine, not the one she sold me today. In other words, as soon as she sold me the deck, I took my blue OF (and the balisong) out of the cabinet. Now I hope the condition of her deck is in good shape as she described, or it's me who will cry.
The coatings of the OF is special, in that it makes these decks handled like Aqua to me. I like the feel, particularly when shuffling and cutting the cards on the table I can hear the sound of friction between the cards clearly.
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Digipunk, thanks for doing that for all our curious minds :P I appreciate it!! That's a let down, them being all the same color. On the bright side I don't feel the need to get the whole set now!
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Although it's disappointing, I can honestly say that I'm glad I do own the entire set... The different colored boxes still make them unique... I feel it still necessary to own the entire set, but that's just me... However again, a little bit of a let down... :-\
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Although it's disappointing, I can honestly say that I'm glad I do own the entire set... The different colored boxes still make them unique... I feel it still necessary to own the entire set, but that's just me... However again, a little bit of a let down... :-\
Yeah I can totally understand the mindset of collecting the set. I would as well if the set wasn't so expensive. For now I'm just trying to get two of the reds (or a red and a blue). Although I'm sure I'll keep hunting around for bargains and if I can get the whole set piece by piece for cheap I will. If I can't I won't be upset :)
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@brown_baggs and @jmrock,
I took a deep deep breath before opening the deck. My heart was broken when I saw the backs were red, but these decks are still collectible I think, at least I like them as usual.
Now, anyone wants to buy the blue OF I opened? (kidding :P )
@alex, finally I know having a resealer handy is important! (kidding :P )
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Here's the first to the bicycle-related cards. Please excuse the quality of the photos. This is my newest addition to my vintage collection, and my camera's broken before this.
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/2011-11-29030705.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/2011-11-29030802.jpg)
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Hmmm... the automobile back? I've never seen that one before!! Very interesting! It has a nice look to it, but most vintage decks do :P I really like the back design though. The patterns look great! What's the history behind this one?
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Number 14 from Mrs. Robinson's Handbook. It's actually Automobile No.2, there's a No.1. Introduced in 1913 and discontinued 1935. That's all I could find for now, maybe someone else could fill us in!
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Number 14 from Mrs. Robinson's Handbook. It's actually Automobile No.2, there's a No.1. Introduced in 1913 and discontinued 1935. That's all I could find for now, maybe someone else could fill us in!
Where did you get Mrs. Robinson's Handbook? Do you own a copy? I would be interested in reading over it and learning about some of the deck :)
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I wish I own a copy of the godly handbook to Bicycle vintage decks. But sadly no. However, I do have a site that tell me an adequate amount of information.
Use this link:
http://www.cypressfilms.com/bicycle/
It includes a copy (not sure if it's full) of Mrs. Robinson's handbook, as well as some information on vintage decks and the dating method.
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Here's the first to the bicycle-related cards. Please excuse the quality of the photos. This is my newest addition to my vintage collection, and my camera's broken before this.
I do have the same one but blue in color, the cards are complete but no jokers.
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/siote007/DSC00143.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/siote007/DSC00142.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/siote007/DSC00144.jpg)
Pm me if you are interested, I am open for sale or trade. Is it ok to post it here or should I make another tread? Sorry in advance
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Hey, thanks for the link!! I think I may have seen that site before, I'll have to give it a good look through though :)
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@sxjy0109, it's an awesome deck again. :)
Will you get a better camera or use a scanner instead? Your vintage decks are worthy to be shown close up to be appreciated.
Jimmy usually shows his cards in great detail. I believe you may do this better than he.
http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=665843 (http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=665843) (Big Gun)
http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=668136 (http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=668136) (Flying Ace)
http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=669049 (http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=669049) (Autocycle and Cyclecar)
http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=665929 (http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=665929&highlight=) (Thistle)
http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=665242 (http://www.superx.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=665242) (Handlebar)
@siote, I only see 3 frogs.
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Yeahh I'll be getting a better camera. In fact I've gotten it already, but I won't have it in my hands until the summer, whilst the cards aren't with me either (I'm studying abroad by myself).
I've seen his work, but it's been a while since he's posted with his collection. Maybe cause the rest of the 82 that he hasn't got yet are so rare to find that it takes some good time to appear.
(Btw, are you Noty on the forum?)
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For all you vintage collectors, here are some great deals you might enjoy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-Vintage-Bicycle-Playing-Cards-Very-Rare-Old-USPC-Stamp-86-Deck-NR-/260951432629?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc1eaddb5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1900s-X-Rare-Historic-Bicycle-Box-Stamp-VTG-Litho-Mint-Scarce-Antique-NR-/260951472781?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc1eb7a8d
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BICYCLE-808-Rider-Back-Playing-Cards-Tax-Stamp-w-playing-card-case-all-vintage-/370583351023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56487d2eef
:D
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For all you vintage collectors, here are some great deals you might enjoy:
I don't think so... ::)
@sxjy0109, yes.
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For all you vintage collectors, here are some great deals you might enjoy:
I don't think so... ::)
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X2 - Let the Vintage Collectors search for themselves... hahaha... I think one of them is a stamp from a book of matches...
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For all you vintage collectors, here are some great deals you might enjoy:
I don't think so... ::)
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X2 - Let the Vintage Collectors search for themselves... hahaha... I think one of them is a stamp from a book of matches...
But I still very appreciate for Nathan's kindness. ;)
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Here is my very modest vintage collection. I have not focused much on having a large vintage collection but it is definitely something I would like to work on in the future.
(http://i.imgur.com/bFbwk.jpg)
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Here is my very modest vintage collection. I have not focused much on having a large vintage collection but it is definitely something I would like to work on in the future.
http://i.imgur.com/bFbwk.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/bFbwk.jpg)
wow that looks nice! what the deck on the far right? I want my virginia slims!! the ones on ebay are already used... and.. expensive? I dk what's the price of these so... ???
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The deck on the right is from 1979, when they hosted the world blackjack tournament at the Sahara Casino. As for a price of the Virginia Slims, I paid 12 bucks for the cards and 8 bucks for shipping if I recall correctly.
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Haha you've been converted to the dark side ;) Have fun collecting those! I would but it's just out of my price range. Maybe if I hit the jackpot one day or find a suitcase with a couple grand I'll give it a go, but I doubt that will happen.
Are you planning on only collecting vintage decks from now on Curt?
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Are you planning on only collecting vintage decks from now on Curt?
Nope, I am just going to be a bit more diligent with my efforts on trying to acquire them. I am going to pass on more of the upcoming releases but still will pick up my fair share of new decks, especially ones that are highly anticipated by the community.
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Are you planning on only collecting vintage decks from now on Curt?
Nope, I am just going to be a bit more diligent with my efforts on trying to acquire them. I am going to pass on more of the upcoming releases but still will pick up my fair share of new decks, especially ones that are highly anticipated by the community.
That's cool. I know some people really like to have a theme or pattern to their collection, so that's why I asked. I pretty much stick to recent decks that catch my eye. I'm not really into getting all the rare decks no matter what the cost.
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Sorry about that. Just trying to help :/
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Here's another one:
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/CIMG2239.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/CIMG2237.jpg)
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Wow sxjy... You really have quite a number of incredible vintage decks... Russell & Morgan Jokers - would you look at that... Great stuff... Now I've gotta hit you back - Here's my newest and one of my most cherished acquisitions... My first ever original Squeezers... I believe it to be beyond rare... Tax stamp is from late 1800s & is broken, but the inside deck is wrapped in paper (not wax) and is still sealed... I've never seen anything like it and take great pride that they are representing N.Y.C.
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Wow sxjy... You really have quite a number of incredible vintage decks... Russell & Morgan Jokers - would you look at that... Great stuff... Now I've gotta hit you back - Here's my newest and one of my most cherished acquisitions... My first ever original Squeezers... I believe it to be beyond rare... Tax stamp is from late 1800s & is broken, but the inside deck is wrapped in paper (not wax) and is still sealed... I've never seen anything like it and take great pride that they are representing N.Y.C.
You gonna show us some photos! Otherwise it's just talks! :-[
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Of course... Of course... Forgot to lower the size of one of the pics and took a minute to upload... Click on those pics... Been waiting a very long time for a deck like that... Feeling very blessed to be able to pick it up...
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Holy cow those are gorgeous!! Is that a box within a box? All these pictures of the beautiful vintage decks really are incredible. Thanks for sharing them with us. I know that I don't have any plans of trying to collect vintage decks but it's still special to see of them and their incredible history and art.
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WOW! Incredibly well preserved! However I'd think these are from some time between 1917 and 1919, dated from the tax stamp. Of course, that's only based on the box, the cards inside may be produced even earlier.
I didn't know they custom made these paper too! This is the first deck I've seen with wax paper besides those from USPCC! The USPCC ones are just plain brownish-yellow coloured, but this one is completely new to me.
Man how much did you pay for this? Must've costed a fortune!
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Actually this was the 2 cent Act of 1894 Stamp, and it ran up till 1917, but I have it from a fairly reliable source that these were pre-1900... However, it is true that without cracking the seal I will never know for sure... Either way, It's Valentines Day and I'm in love... The cool thing is the interior wrapper is not wax paper, it's almost like a thick stock of newspaper... and sxjy, still not as much as all of those sick vintage decks you keep posting... hahaha...
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If you look closely, the stamp is cancelled by N.Y.C.C.CO.. The Act of 1894 Stamp you mentioned are cancelled by U.S.P.C.CO.. I still think it's between 1917-1919 :D .
Maybe a few decks combined would mark up to the value of this deck, unless you hit on a sweet deal.
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@jmrock, what does the overprint read??
@sxjy0109, NYCCC produced the deck, it should have been cancelled by NYCCC.
@jmrock, Open your deck, show us its incredible AoS and Joker >:(
http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks05/d02620/d02620.htm (http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks05/d02620/d02620.htm)
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@sxjy0109, NYCCC produced the deck, it should have been cancelled by NYCCC.
That's why I said it should be the stamp dated between 1917-1919 instead of pre-1900. ;D
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@sxjy0109, NYCCC produced the deck, it should have been cancelled by NYCCC.
That's why I said it should be the stamp dated between 1917-1919 instead of pre-1900. ;D
I don't get it. NYCCC 1871-1930, why does a stamp cancelled by NYCCC mean 1917-1919?
http://www.cypressfilms.com/Bicycle/USPC_Dates/USPC_Dating_Codes.html (http://www.cypressfilms.com/Bicycle/USPC_Dates/USPC_Dating_Codes.html)
The tax was 7 cents in 1917-1919, I don't see "7" or "17" on jmrock's stamp.
The 2nd line of the overprint might denote the date accurately, but I can not read it clearly.
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Hmm I'm looking at the fourth stamp from the website. It's the only one cancelled by NYCCC and it looks identical to the one on jmrock's deck. You're right about not being able to see the "17", but it could be just hardly visible, instead of not there.
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Now I hope the condition of her deck is in good shape as she described, or it's me who will cry.
Just received the deck, don't need to cry 8)
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Most of rare decks are not cheap today, collectors should be very careful. Yesterday I saw an Aristocrat 727 on eBay, I could not but SUSPECT something's wrong.
Please look closely to the pics: http://www.ebay.com/itm/270914875876 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/270914875876)
The stamp looks like a reused one (ever soaked in water).
In the last 2 pics, the box seems to be ever opened.
As mentioned earlier, I just SUSPECT and I won't touch suspicious items (and sellers) ::)
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For anyone interested, I will be selling a Golden Nugget at tonight's sale in an hour and a half. The price is high but coupled with all the discounts you should be able to get it at a steal.
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Well, since the thread's back alive... One of my newer scores... Loving This Deck!!! 1930s USPCC Treasury Playing Cards Sealed in Wax Paper... This is one luscious deck people...
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Well, since the thread's back alive... One of my newer scores... Loving This Deck!!! 1930s USPCC Treasury Playing Cards Sealed in Wax Paper... This is one luscious deck people...
You won't surprise anyone anymore no matter which decks you score. You have to surpass yourself, open them!! :P :P
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Loll I'm not trying to get you to open the deck too here, but I love the Joker! Even when it's still in the wax paper!
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Another beautiful deck! I really like the simplicity of the box with the nice blue and the contrast in the gold. The gold seal on the wax paper is awesome as well. Although I guess you would expect a lot of gold being the treasury deck and all. The jokers does seem to look nice from what I can see through the wax paper. You continue to amaze!
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@jmrock
Have you gotten the steampunk deck in your mail yet? I can't wait to see it!
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jmrock must have lots of vintage decks! Each and everyone of them looks really amazing!! As for me I can't seem to spot vintage decks on ebay, can't differentiate between old/used/never-heard-before and real vintage decks, also i'm not too familiar with them. Anyway, great deck you got there!
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This is an amazing thread. For casual collectors like myself, it introduces us to a whole new venue of cards, albeit an expensive one.
It's great just looking at these pieces of history wishing I had enough money for some of these. Looking forward to more pictures of vintage decks.
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Sorry to cross thread... but those of you who can't seem to find any vintage decks, I put a few up, some of which are really rare... One of which happens to be an incredibly wonderful find... Whist (cough, cough...) I'll post some pics of this one so you can see what I'm talking about... http://www.ebay.com/sch/jmrockauction/m.html?item=150759896578&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649&_trksid=p4340.l2562 Not a complete violation... Here I am sharing another vintage find from the 1930s... USPCC Trophy Whist Playing Cards... Sealed in Wax Paper... Sick Deck People!!!
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@jmrock, on your eBay autions, I think the 1900 Racer Back in wax paper is more appealing to people. The Trophy Whist is not so famous and popular for collectors. :P
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I know everyone wants Bicycle... I still have a love for Bicycle as well... However, you can't deny the beauty of owning a piece of U.S. Playing Card history...
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Guess it's time to bring this thread back to life. Here it goes.
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/CIMG2241.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/CIMG2242.jpg)
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sxjy... You really do have the hookup, don't you??? It looks like you scored all these from the same person, or maybe it's just the photographs... Still waiting for that PM on what you'd consider letting go... That's some deck my friend... WOW... Now I gotta hit you with some Vintage as well...
Secret Weapon Box (Vietnam Era), Uncle Sam Deck - Tax Stamp Replaced (U.S. Soldiers weren't required to pay taxes on the cards), & First ever release of 914 Aviator Brand Playing Cards c.1930s...
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lol I took the photos myself, if that's what's confusing you.
I'll reply you soon, I'm off for break this week.
Man I'm yet to pick up a deck with the tax free stamps.
Secret Weapon Box...only box? No cards?
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Wow this thread sank fast this time. Time to revive it!
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01628.jpg)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01636.jpg)
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Not as vintage as those but today I finished the vintage shelf on my deck display. I added two more Golden Nuggets and a 50s/60s Rider Back.
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@sxjy0109, Wonderful decks. But don't keep people hanging on, just show us your Tigers #101 >:( >:( >:(
BTW, jmrock needs to open his decks, and you need to... sharpie your Expert Back :P :P
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Not as vintage as those but today I finished the vintage shelf on my deck display. I added two more Golden Nuggets and a 50s/60s Rider Back.
I don't have those vintage Bicycle decks either (actually I am used to call them antique decks), I like these '60-80s decks more. :P
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Not as vintage as those but today I finished the vintage shelf on my deck display. I added two more Golden Nuggets and a 50s/60s Rider Back.
Can't wait to see them!
@sxjy0109, Wonderful decks. But don't keep people hanging on, just show us your Tigers #101 >:( >:( >:(
BTW, jmrock needs to open his decks, and you need to... sharpie your Expert Back :P :P
Lol I wish I have one of those. But no, I only do Bicycle brands (mostly). :P
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By the way, here is a reference to date your stamps effectively: http://www.endebrock.de/stamps/st-usa.html
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By the way, here is a reference to date your stamps effectively: http://www.endebrock.de/stamps/st-usa.html
Yup, had that link bookmarked when I started into vintage decks. But I'm yet to see a deck with one of those early stamps (prior to the 2 cent square stamps from 1894-1896).
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@sxjy0109, what's the year of your Expert Back? It seems to be in good condition.
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@digipunk, to be honest I can't tell you the year. You could probably know the range by looking at the stamp, but not the exact year. I don't have the deck with me right now, and won't until the summer cause I'm studying aboard. Probably should've kept a record of the year, and type of stamp, and whether jokers are missing or not for these vintage decks. :-[
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@sxjy0109, you should have kept those decks with you :-[
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@digipunk,
cause I'm only here to study, it'd be a hassle for me to carry all the decks I bought here at once when I graduate. So I bring all the ones I can back whenever I head home during breaks.
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@jmrock
Thanks for the laugh...I now have your BCG auction in my watch list.
Have to agree about the Trophy Whist being a beautiful and very worthwhile piece of playing card history, especially in perfect condition like that. Mine is missing the box and has slight play wear.
Even though my budget (thrift stores, estate sales, etc.) vintage decks are usually less than perfect, I get to see the whole deck without the stress of having to pop a seal. I can't stand :-[ to have a deck and not see it as so many of you seem to have done.
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My only vintage deck is a Vietnam Secret Weapon deck by Bicycle :-[
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My only vintage deck is a Vietnam Secret Weapon deck by Bicycle :-[
That one is actually harder to come by than some of the decks in the thread. You should be grateful!
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Wow, those are some nice-looking vintage decks!!!!!! Anyways, in your opinion, which one is worth the most?
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Vintage card clips, and the best of my vintage and antique decks.
The last pic is of a partial deck found in a box of World War II photos. It is a mini deck, and since there are no indexes it may be older than the 1940s. If anyone has any information that may help me identify these cards I would really appreciate it.
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That deck looks like it dates back from the 1800s... because of the way the court cards look and the lack of indexes, and the material of the cards as well as the "Cromwell" written on them. JMO.
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@Dazzleguts, I don't use card clips, but I really like your clips :o :o
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@Dazzleguts,
How do you know they're vintage card clips? They look pretty new to me...
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That deck looks like it dates back from the 1800s... because of the way the court cards look and the lack of indexes, and the material of the cards as well as the "Cromwell" written on them. JMO.
Thanks NathanCanadas. Does the Cromwell link to anything in particular for you? I agree it looks like 1800s. I have spent some time trying to find the origin of these, even consulted with a collector and dealer of old cards. He could not tell me anything but offered to buy them, perhaps knew more than he let on?
@Dazzleguts, I don't use card clips, but I really like your clips :o :o
Thanks digipunk! I used one of the white ones to flatten a slight warp in the Trophy Whist deck shown above. It took several weeks, but it worked.
@Dazzleguts,
How do you know they're vintage card clips? They look pretty new to me...
Yes, they are in great shape aren't they? The brown one does have wear but it doesn't show on the dark surface, more in the fading of the gold lines. The white ones have some wear inside. I found these at a local thrift store, and one of the white ones had an early 1900s deck in it. I don't think they are from as early a time as that deck is, but from the leather book jacket style, and the fact that they are made to hold a pack of cards without the box, I guess them to be at least as old as 1960s/70s, probably older. They are metal but are surfaced with a very thin but tough leather look paper, like a hot press paper. The craftsmanship is also very good.
Does anyone here know the history of card clips? There doesn't seem to be anything online. Did USPCC make any in years past?
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I don't think USPCC was responsible for producing any card clips. Not back then, not now.
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I don't think USPCC was responsible for producing any card clips. Not back then, not now.
Any suggestions who might have made them?
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I don't think USPCC was responsible for producing any card clips. Not back then, not now.
Any suggestions who might have made them?
Though I like your clips, but I want the following one most...
The Expert At The Card Table Clip made by Joe Porper.
(http://pic.yupoo.com/notyhsu/BLNPVO1C/Xu06N.jpg)
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That looks great digipunk, I've never seen those before. I have an Erdnase/EATCT Card clip but not that one, here it is......
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Cool clips.
Digipunk, Expert uses the book format like my vintage ones have. Is that printed right onto the metal?
Like that Expert clip but can't start thinking of collecting clips too, just couldn't afford it.
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@VortexHead, good clip too.
@Dazzleguts, I don't have the clip. Yes, it is a Joe Porper clip and pattern is electroplated coated on it. If I remember right : there were only 2 of these clips produced (ordered by the Buck twins). Don't worry about the price, we don't have the chance to own them...
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Those are some very nice clips. I dont even have the Expert At The Card table book. I have to pick that up soon.
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@Dazzleguts, I don't have the clip. Yes, it is a Joe Porper clip and pattern is electroplated coated on it. If I remember right : there were only 2 of these clips produced (ordered by the Buck twins). Don't worry about the price, we don't have the chance to own them...
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That is actually good news as I would have been tempted..
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Vintage card clips, and the best of my vintage and antique decks.
The last pic is of a partial deck found in a box of World War II photos. It is a mini deck, and since there are no indexes it may be older than the 1940s. If anyone has any information that may help me identify these cards I would really appreciate it.
This might not help as much, but I found the same deck with a white back in an canceled auction.
http://everythingelse.bidstart.com/Victorian-1-4-size-deck-Cromwell-Series-D-Harper-and-Co-/9781709/a.html
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Many thanks Don Boyer, this is the first lead I have had, and I have had these cards for 2 years! I will try to contact the seller, but since this is a listing from 2010, and it says the seller is no longer active, I may get nowhere. They place the cards as Victorian, which doesn't narrow the year down much but confirms the 1800s. How did you come across this?
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Just type in the company name and you'd probably find some links to auctions and purchases. I had a try but couldn't find too much information on the deck itself, so I couldn't validate that it's the 1800's. As for Victorian, it may just be the style of the design, not necessarily the time period at which it was produced.
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Many thanks Don Boyer, this is the first lead I have had, and I have had these cards for 2 years! I will try to contact the seller, but since this is a listing from 2010, and it says the seller is no longer active, I may get nowhere. They place the cards as Victorian, which doesn't narrow the year down much but confirms the 1800s. How did you come across this?
I did a Google search using the company name, deck brand and "playing cards". There's astonishingly little around about the company - if it was a 20th-century firm, I'd wager there'd be better records of its existence. It would not surprise me at all to learn they're from the 19th century at the least, and on the auction piece, I'm betting that wasn't the original packaging it came with - were snaps like that even around in the Victorian era?
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My oldest deck is an 1885 Andrew Dougherty Climax Indicator Ace Playing Cards, I need to get a photo and post it on the forum today.
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My oldest deck is an 1885 Andrew Dougherty Climax Indicator Ace Playing Cards, I need to get a photo and post it on the forum today.
Can't wait! Don't keep them to yourself, show the others too! We aren't competing for the oldest deck or anything. Any vintage would be a great addition to this compilation of history!
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@AlessandroPangia,
We're still waiting for some photos! ;)
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I too would love to see these cards! :D
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Still don't have vintage decks. This is the pic of the top layer of a medium flat box that is on its way to me. I should get it by next Tuesday. :mindf-ck:
(http://pic.yupoo.com/notyhsu/BNyRNVsf/uPbEP.jpg)
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Still don't have vintage decks. This is the pic of the top layer of a medium flat box that is on its way to me. I should get it by next Tuesday. :mindf-ck:
(http://pic.yupoo.com/notyhsu/BNyRNVsf/uPbEP.jpg)
Where in the world did you get all the money?!?! anyways what's underneath it?
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Where in the world did you get all the money?!?! anyways what's underneath it?
Bicycle 808 and Bee. Why don't you sleep? :karrit:
(2 bricks of Big Gun, they are Bicycle 808. And some casino decks, they are Bee)
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Where in the world did you get all the money?!?! anyways what's underneath it?
Bicycle 808 and Bee. Why don't you sleep? :karrit:
(2 bricks of Big Gun, they are Bicycle 808. And some casino decks, they are Bee)
No why dont you sleep?!?!? >:( KIDDING!:D ;D If i sleep now i'll wake up in 2+ in the afternoon, and i have to meet my friend at 1pm sharp. Might as well not sleep?
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I am sleepwalking and walking to bed now. :o :o
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I am sleepwalking and walking to bed now. :o :o
Can you try to sleepwalk to your collection and package a brick of golden nuggets and ship them to me?:D ;)
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I am sleepwalking and walking to bed now. :o :o
Can you try to sleepwalk to your collection and package a brick of golden nuggets and ship them to me?:D ;)
Lets keep the off topic conversation to the lolaq or PM's. Thanks guys ;)
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@digipunk,
I'm thinking this is from a single collector? A trade? I like the Golden Nugget btw. ;)
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@digipunk,
I'm thinking this is from a single collector? A trade? I like the Golden Nugget btw. ;)
I got them from different sellers and directed them to the leading character of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part-I. There had been more than 40 decks at his place, so we thought it's time to send them to me with a medium box. The Arrco Service and Uncle Sam were mentioned in the previous posts (the Uncle Sam deck has a free-of-tax stamp). :t11:
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I have an ESP deck too. :bosswalk: :bosswalk:
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zener_cards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zener_cards)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8J7Yyst_rWM/T1kUTC2MdiI/AAAAAAAADxE/fXq4rQTp5Io/s500/01.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w5Fdtsvv4I4/T1kVSCvPcQI/AAAAAAAADx0/euBcFwf2XyQ/s500/02.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Omy2Puxvmu0/T1kUTuGr5fI/AAAAAAAADxM/T3qcWjG226E/s500/03.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P05C3m0jT-M/T1kUU53wYZI/AAAAAAAADxY/NveTP2ChJaw/s500/04.jpg)
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I've been gaining an interest in vintage decks but they're expensive and I can barely afford the cards that I buy now :mindf-ck:
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Interesting. Looks like these weren't for sale, but actual use in Duke University.
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Interesting. Looks like these weren't for sale, but actual use in Duke University.
I purposely showed the back in the last pic, do you know what the name of the back is?
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I think they are Jewish Stars and Snowflakes... aka: Hannukah & Christmas Backs... hahaha... The only place these two religions could find harmony... The back of a playing card...
On a more serious note... Aren't they the same design as the Bicycle Holiday Backs?
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I think they are Jewish Stars and Snowflakes... aka: Hannukah & Christmas Backs... hahaha... The only place these two religions could find harmony... The back of a playing card...
On a more serious note... Aren't they the same design as the Bicycle Holiday Backs?
Very similar, but it's impossible for the name to be called Holiday backs ;)
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It does look like the back design on Holiday back...
If it's something else Bicycle related that you're hinting at...I must be missing out. I know there's a few stars and flakes designs in those 82 designs, but none of them look exactly like that. Right...? @.@
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YwIy5FVDVTo/TpPBIV16xBI/AAAAAAAABBM/GcjmUVtAtVg/s500/03.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w8ipKgz_zY0/TpPBJrEn_CI/AAAAAAAABBU/ORwfMufRmhc/s500/02.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XRLz2D0yfY4/TpVqT-meHwI/AAAAAAAABDk/alWL_VUCfbQ/s478/01.jpg)
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Mmm I wouldn't know then. >.<
I never really got into anything else besides Bicycle. :P
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You want to see some other insanely cool Vintage Bee Backs... What a dream to own these decks...
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Those are pretty sweet!! Back #204 is awesome! I wish there were a few decks out now with that back. I would pick up a ton of those! I've never really looked into different bee backs
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@jmrock,
Don't do this. I am NOT getting into anything else besides Bicycle. I'm spending enough on these. >.<
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Hahaha... Tell me you wouldn't buy a brick of those Clock Back Bee Decks immediately... Or at the top with the big Bees and the hives behind them... Just awesome...
However, I've never seen any vintage Bee decks for sale with these incredible backs... I got lucky a few months ago and bought direct from a collector the worm backs, but they were from the late 70s - 80s... Wonderful decks, but nothing like these... I'll post some crazy Tally Ho backs as well... Comin at ya like a stiff blow...
Yes, the mystery is solved... Our beloved Dragon Backs were originally Tally Ho Backs...
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@jmrock, the clock back is awesome and others are wonderful too. Are these insane cards yours?
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I wouldn't be surprised but I don't think so. I believe I've seen some of those pictures elsewhere. Unless he posted those too. >.<
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I can only wish... They were off a Magic Magazine web page... I looked because I have it bookmarked and I knew your back was on it, but I didn't put two and two together for some reason... I love sometimes when searching for things, you seem to infiltrate a page of a subscription based service (which I believe this is)... These are definitely ten cards that would make me glad to take up single swap collecting...
Check it out...
http://www.magicmagazine.com/august10/card-backs.html
Also... Getting back on topic strong posting some pics of a recent acquisition... Late 1800s / Early 1900s NY Consolidated Squeezers - Elf with Gold Edges - Side Opening Box, which I think is awesome - Slightly smaller than a standard deck, but not quite miniature...
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Those Tally Hos are awesome! I know Don will love to see those! He seems to be a big fan of the Tallys. I really like the horse backs with the crown. These Vintage decks all look incredible. Thanks for sharing the pictures guys :)
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Interesting. The joker also says Best Bower. One of the earliest (if not THE earliest) jokers in Bicycle also says Best Bower.
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Yes, Zero - the first Bicycle deck, the Old Fan Back, had a Best Bower joker.
All those backs were awesome. And I knew there had to be something more to the mystery behind the Dragon Backs! I like the one-color version so much more than the newer four-color versions used on Bikes. It's just so clean and the artwork is easy to view and appreciate in all its detail. In four colors, a lot of that gets muddied up.
So, when the hell are more people going to get the idea in their heads that yes, Tally Ho did come in more than two backs, and perhaps it is also due for a revival?! I just wish USPC would stop treating it as a regional brand exclusive to NYC and magic retailers. It's an AWESOME deck.
(And I also wish they'd fix the one-way mark on the Circle Backs! They weren't always like that!)
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@Don... I agree... Although there is a place in my heart for Bicycle and it's what I mainly collect along with Bees... I would say that the Tally Ho has always been my favorite brand of card... I always enjoyed performing with them and loved the backs and especially the box... It's funny that after getting into card collecting years later and obtaining vintage decks, the Tally Ho box is reminiscent of the decks of old...
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I would say that the Tally Ho has always been my favorite brand of card...
I forgive you for not owning the Bicycle War Series.
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Finally... Thank you Digi... I have been waiting for that forgiveness for a very long time... Now I can get back to collecting with a clear conscience...
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@Don... I agree... Although there is a place in my heart for Bicycle and it's what I mainly collect along with Bees... I would say that the Tally Ho has always been my favorite brand of card... I always enjoyed performing with them and loved the backs and especially the box... It's funny that after getting into card collecting years later and obtaining vintage decks, the Tally Ho box is reminiscent of the decks of old...
It's remained a classic. As far as I know, the box is entirely unchanged. Again, I just wish it was a national brand. There's sort of a vicious circle at play.
USPC pushes Bicycle as the inexpensive but reasonably good consumer brand, and Bee as the higher-end poker brand, popular in casinos around the country if not the world. Aviator is still popular at airports because of the matched theme. Maverick, one of their cheapest brands, has a strong following in the South and maybe even the Midwest, I'm not sure. Streamline, the cheapest brand but better in quality than Maverick, is carried by the world's largest store chain, WalMart, for a buck a pack. Congress is doing OK, sort of - they're still popular as a bridge-sized paper playing card brand, but there's a lot of competition from cheaply-made decks from overseas as well as from plastic brands like USPC's own Kem, plus Copag, Piatnik, etc.
In that broad mess, Tally Ho gets marginalized. It's one of the original A. Dougherty designs, originally printed in New York City, and historically it may have been regional to the Northeast while still available elsewhere - it was Dai Vernon's favorite deck. But without the national push that Bicycle and Bee get, plus the higher price tag (it's often more expensive than both Bee and Bicycle at the counter), that region's been shrinking. As the region shrank, the national chain stores decided to simplify their supply chains by offering only brands with national appeal. Because USPC doesn't push Tally Ho, it hasn't had that national appeal for a long time, and now the only place you can find Tally Ho outside of a specialty shop like a magic store is in New York City. Not even the suburbs; just New York City.
On top of that, USPC stops carrying the traditional Tally Ho stock because of the relatively low sales of the Tally Ho brand and replaces it with a variant of Aristocrat. It's a good stock, but I have to wonder if it's truly equal to the old stock. I wouldn't know, since I haven't own an old-stock Tally probably since I was a kid, if ever.
The brand did see a resurgence with the flourishing community - it's by and large their most popular deck - but that community, just like magicians, are still just a small niche, not enough to boost the demand to nationally-worthy levels. And as good as they are for magic, the vast majority of gaffed cards and decks are done in Bicycle Rider Back designs, with any new altered backs changing to the Bicycle Mandolin Backs. The Mandolin Back is close enough to the Rider Back that most spectators wouldn't notice if you swapped a Mandolin Back gaff card into a Rider Back deck, or vice versa.
FYI, for anyone interested in a deal:
Here you can buy the circle backs by the dozen for between $2.00 and $2.10 a pack:
http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=bb&Product_Code=TALLYHO-9-CIRCLE&Category_Code=
And here you can buy the fan backs by the dozen for between $1.65 and $1.75 a pack:
http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=bb&Product_Code=TALLYHO-9&Category_Code=
They also have some really, REALLY old-school looking Tally Ho Pinochle decks!
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Still don't have vintage decks. This is the pic of the top layer of a medium flat box that is on its way to me. I should get it by next Tuesday.
I received the box last Sat, it took only 5 days. And here are the pics of the Uncle Sam deck.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FGZ86SjGdsA/T142exJ1eBI/AAAAAAAADzQ/3yt76ZnyGLs/s500/01.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vRccbnx7b54/T142e9zU0sI/AAAAAAAADzE/9FgDg1CLpYI/s500/02.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-l1zF8ciTeL8/T142e0l47xI/AAAAAAAADzI/D2DJHz2ovR8/s500/03.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YT1wrPfk58k/T142f-8XTyI/AAAAAAAADzc/nIFDyeBzdPE/s500/04.jpg)
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I stare at that "free of tax" seal and keep thinking to myself. "When are you going to open it?" :))
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No need to open... I have an open deck... Sealed in wax paper, missing the Free of Tax Stamp, I'll post it soon... Just started to get real busy... Will post tomorrow... Edit: It's the same back as the Bicycle Leaf Deck...
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Haven't posted anything in a long time. While we wait for the photos from AlessandroPangia and jmrock, I'll put up another photo.
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/sxjy0109/Bicycle%20Vintages/DSC01634.jpg)
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Haven't posted anything in a long time. While we wait for the photos from AlessandroPangia and jmrock, I'll put up another photo.
In some ways, it actually feels like we've somehow lost some of the art of printing over the years. These backs are sharp and beautiful even after all these years. A modern Rider Back is almost soulless by comparison, even when comparing it to a really vintage Rider Back. Cupid Backs like these are awesome - I so much prefer this to the modern reprints in gold. And what the hell happened to the Tally Ho Circle Back that now it's become a one-way deck?! Lazy man at the Wacom tablet, asleep at the stylus?
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Vintage card clips, and the best of my vintage and antique decks.
The last pic is of a partial deck found in a box of World War II photos. It is a mini deck, and since there are no indexes it may be older than the 1940s. If anyone has any information that may help me identify these cards I would really appreciate it.
This might not help as much, but I found the same deck with a white back in an canceled auction.
http://everythingelse.bidstart.com/Victorian-1-4-size-deck-Cromwell-Series-D-Harper-and-Co-/9781709/a.html
Just an update on my search for the background of these mystery cards. I went looking at some records not directly related to playing cards and found this:
D. Harper and Co
of 258/262 Holloway Road, London, N7.
listed as an exhibitor in the British Industries Fair for years 1922, 1929, 1937, 1947.
The British Industries Fair was an important exhibition centre in Birmingham, England, built in 1920. Since the fair only started in the 1920s, and D. Harper and Co may have been around much longer than that, I still don't have a year for my partial deck. At least I know the company was around from 1922 - 1947.
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Well at least we have a range now, and know that it's not from the 1800's.
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Well at least we have a range now, and know that it's not from the 1800's.
We don't know that for certain. Just because they first exhibited at that fair in 1922, there's no reason to assume that they weren't in existence for many years before that, or that they didn't continue to print cards long after their last exhibition in 1947.
The only thing we do know for certain is that the company is now verified as having been in operation between 1922 and 1947.
EDIT: I gave the cards another look. The index-less style would put them at being made prior to approximately the 1870s or 1880s, when the "squeezer" design came into being. However, they're also using more modern versions of the double-headed face cards. If I had to guess, I'd say the manufacturer simply left off the indices because the cards were so small. It's entirely possible that the deck was manufactured in the early 20th century.
Have you tried contacting museums that have playing card collections? I hear that Columbia University here in New York has a rather extensive collection that was donated to the school a handful of years ago. I sincerely doubt it's the only such collection in existence; more museums have to be out there that have a solid knowledge of antique/vintage playing cards. Unfortunately, I can't even suggest trying Hochman's book because it only covers American-made decks into the mid-20th century and I don't know of a European or British equivalent.
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I'm not sure what you're disagreeing here. Like you said yourself, the company was in operating between 1922 and 1947. That's the time frame I'm talking about.
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I'm not sure what you're disagreeing here. Like you said yourself, the company was in operating between 1922 and 1947. That's the time frame I'm talking about.
You mentioned the deck wasn't from the 1800's. We don't know this for certain, since we don't know if the company was operating in that era or not. I'm assuming based on my own observations that it's a more modern design, but I could be completely wrong. Elements of the design are older, while other elements appear more modern, but I couldn't say that with any real authority. Indices and two-way faces were both developed at around the same period, within 20 years after the end of the US Civil War in 1865. This deck has two-way faces, but no indices, and I'm guessing that the court cards look more modern, but I have little to base that on with certainty.
While we know the company was operating 1922-1947, it could have started operations long before 1922 and/or ended them long after 1947. We have no way yet to confirm anything more than that the firm was in business during the period of 1922-1947.
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Dazzleguts mentioned the company's around between 1922-1947. I wouldn't comprehend the sentence in a way that it could be operating before and after that. Even if it did, it would probably have used different name, similar to Russell and Morgan Printing Co. as opposed to the UPSCC now.
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Dazzleguts mentioned the company's around between 1922-1947. I wouldn't comprehend the sentence in a way that it could be operating before and after that. Even if it did, it would probably have used different name, similar to Russell and Morgan Printing Co. as opposed to the UPSCC now.
OK. But the name change idea - no way to know. Russell & Morgan opted to change their name but many companies don't. I don't think they opted to change until they started absorbing other card companies in bulk! It may or may not have changed, but all we know is they don't appear to be using the original name if they're still in business today. And that, too, is an assumption - they could have folded or been bought up USPC-style.
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Sorry Zero, I've been so busy I will post it soon, might be today.
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Here it is!
The Ace of Spades, The Box, a Court Card and the Back Design all in one photo:
(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9269/ssm10002.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/ssm10002.jpg/)
Ace of Spades:
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8489/ssm10003.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/ssm10003.jpg/)
Some history about this deck, it was produced in NY by Andrew Dougherty in 1885, on the 27th of October to be exact, since it was their first run of decks with the "Improved Card Box". A little known fact, there was a back design of Tally Ho with this same back design, I have one complete deck, box and jokers too, it is the same back, just in Green. This deck is one-way, I am almost 100% positive that this deck was used by a cheat, since it has some line work, typical of that era (pre Sharps and Flats type), in fact each spread of important cards has some line work and shade work on some leaves. The marks are tiny, but very clear if you are used to marked cards. I might open a new topic showing my collection of crooked gambling cards, if you want so, please comment down about it.
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By the way, I will post one tomorrow to fill the gap I took for posting this one.
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Here it is!
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I only see 2 frogs... :-\
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I only see 2 frogs... :-\
That's weird...Anyhow, here it is for you!
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Are these the first cards made by Dougherty? (before the Tallys)?
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Tally Ho were introduced in the late 1800s, so this deck should precede them. What do you think about them Digi,Zero and Nathan? And what about the idea for the new topic?
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I'm not familiar with these decks. I collect Bicycle-branded cards so it might be better if you ask someone else.
New topic? The gambling cards you mean? I'd love to see it!
How did you know about the October 27th? Of course you're talking about this back and box design, not this particular deck. But where did you find the information? I'm just curious and want to keep a record of the references.
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Zero, I am actually referring to this deck right here it was made on that date, I found the date on the box, and this deck was one of the first runs made that day (It has the Indicator Ace of Spades, which was the standard Dougherty Ace of Spade of the time, before they produced a custom one) In fact I spotted a deck few months ago with the same box, but with a different Ace of Spades (Tally Ho), and in fact it was produced in 1899. Today I will start the topic.
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Could you then take another picture that indicates the date on the box? I've never come across any box that tells the exact date of production. Unless it's handwritten. Indicator AoS only tells the year, does it not?
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Could you then take another picture that indicates the date on the box? I've never come across any box that tells the exact date of production. Unless it's handwritten. Indicator AoS only tells the year, does it not?
I didn't see a year on that Ace of Spades, and not only did the USPC date code not come into being for about three decades after, but Dougherty wasn't yet part of USPC in 1885.
I'd enjoy seeing clear shots of the box - it looks to be in incredible condition for an artifact so old.
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I have been meaning to post these for awile but havn't got around to it till now:
These are some pictures of my Bicycle Secret Weapon Deck: http://s1149.photobucket.com/albums/o581/azroth14/
Here is a thread with some info on it: http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=1485.msg22732#msg22732
\i really like the deck, as does someone else who always wants to buy it from me :)
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@Don,
I don't mean the alphabetical code for the USPC AoS. That particular AoS for the Dougherty decks indicates the year. I was asking how he knew the exact date.
@Aaron,
It seems like you've password-protected the album.
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@Don,
I don't mean the alphabetical code for the USPC AoS. That particular AoS for the Dougherty decks indicates the year. I was asking how he knew the exact date.
I tried getting a good look at it in the photo, but I didn't see a year on it. I could have missed it.
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You can barely see the box. That's why I asked for another clearer photo at it.
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So, the box has the date on it, and that's the Ace of Spades used in that period, so the date must be correct. I will take some pictures of the box and post it soon.
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I didn't mean to lock that, I will unlock it when I get home.
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Ok you guys should be able to access it now:
http://s1149.photobucket.com/albums/o581/azroth14/
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The rider back actually caught me off-guard for a bit. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but I thought it would've been something else.
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@Aaron... Now you're just being cruel... What's it going to take...
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@Aaron... Now you're just being cruel... What's it going to take...
Haha, I am not trying to be cruel, I just remembered that some people asked for pictures of it one time, So I did it. :)
I don't even know what it would take for me to let it go ;D
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@Aaron Wowi like ur vitnam era deck :) check this out !! Sealed deck of vietnam war;;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=130666578255&nma=true&rt=nc&si=mAG1uhrsRahgdsG4nLOUlBwGoiU%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
what I can see on that list is the rider back is actually RED and ur one is BLUE. how do we know which colour is inside if the deck is sealed??
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what I can see on that list is the rider back is actually RED and ur one is BLUE. how do we know which colour is inside if the deck is sealed??
If it's sealed, there's no way to know. These weren't meant for playing poker - they were meant for dropping in the battlefield and wearing in the band of a helmet. But more than all that, they were meant as simple morale boosters for the troops. The color of the back wasn't terribly important, and back then blue and red were the most popular.
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@Aaron Wowi like ur vitnam era deck :) check this out !! Sealed deck of vietnam war;;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=130666578255&nma=true&rt=nc&si=mAG1uhrsRahgdsG4nLOUlBwGoiU%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
what I can see on that list is the rider back is actually RED and ur one is BLUE. how do we know which colour is inside if the deck is sealed??
That one looks like it had some pretty heavy box damage, and if there is water damage on the box, who knows what the cards inside are like.
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@Aaron Wowi like ur vitnam era deck :) check this out !! Sealed deck of vietnam war;;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=130666578255&nma=true&rt=nc&si=mAG1uhrsRahgdsG4nLOUlBwGoiU%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
what I can see on that list is the rider back is actually RED and ur one is BLUE. how do we know which colour is inside if the deck is sealed??
That one looks like it had some pretty heavy box damage, and if there is water damage on the box, who knows what the cards inside are like.
Did you get yours on ebay as well, Aaron?
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@Aaron Wowi like ur vitnam era deck :) check this out !! Sealed deck of vietnam war;;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=130666578255&nma=true&rt=nc&si=mAG1uhrsRahgdsG4nLOUlBwGoiU%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
what I can see on that list is the rider back is actually RED and ur one is BLUE. how do we know which colour is inside if the deck is sealed??
Ya for $20! I don't think the seller knew what he had because he had it listed as a Desert Shield in the title, and there was very very little information in the description. I looked at the pictures and with the help of some people here, determined that it was a "Legit" one. :)
That one looks like it had some pretty heavy box damage, and if there is water damage on the box, who knows what the cards inside are like.
Did you get yours on ebay as well, Aaron?
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@jmrock, digipunk and others
Any new vintage added to your collections lately?
We've also got several new members joining us with some vintage decks at hands. Please share your cherished cards with us (I mean the photos...:P)!
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Close ups of the box and Ace of Spades are coming, I just got my camera back.
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Wow... Do you know how heated I just got that I didn't see that deck... I've been looking for it for a very long time... and in sealed condition????????? For $100????????? *&%$@#%&$(@#*&$^#&
Still don't feel better about it...
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Its been awhile when someone posted here. Lets keep the ball rolling, here are some that I acquire over the months.
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/siote007/DSC_6183.jpg?t=1338707969)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/siote007/DSC_6179.jpg?t=1338707920[center][/center])
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/siote007/DSC_6169.jpg?t=1338708101)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/siote007/DSC_6171.jpg?t=1338708093)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/siote007/DSC00158-1.jpg)
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Wow... Those are some gorgeous decks... The Consolidated Steamboats - Just Incredible... and the Tally Ho Tax Stamp Sealed - What an incredibly rare find... I hope you haven't grown to attached to them, because we need to talk... ;)
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@jmrock : did you win the deck? :-\
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=110853893785&si=ti%252FVpzhFGTFFh6EhQH00x3kqLUg%253D&viewitem=&hash=item19cf682e99&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_613wt_1344 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=110853893785&si=ti%252FVpzhFGTFFh6EhQH00x3kqLUg%253D&viewitem=&hash=item19cf682e99&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_613wt_1344)
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Whaaat? No. Where've you been Digimon???
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Whaaat? No. Where've you been Digimon???
just work hard on my job >:( >:(
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The last parcel I received. wow... 6 months ago :-\
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jvtqJuPoNUg/UEjUrBtFnTI/AAAAAAAAD0g/XuQAW_Y6yC8/s600/1.jpg)
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Been little while... Figure I'd post a dream deck of mine that became a reality...
(The last pic is to show the back to some of the young guns...)
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Here's mine so far:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s480x480/485333_609086509105324_1841621157_n.jpg)