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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: xela on April 01, 2012, 08:31:32 PM
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Join me tonight at midnight Eastern time as I post the artwork we have been working on for the past month non-stop.
I honestly think it will be the greatest design any of you have ever seen.
4112
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Oh wow! Sounds intense! You usually bash something if it is over-hyped, so this must be something special.
Also about te finish on the special decks. You say they are test decks and want to see how people percueve the new feel and finish combo you are using for feedback, but with only 500 being made (or released) I feel no one will open, or get to feel the combo so I'm not sure if you will get much reception on it.
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Oh wow! Sounds intense! You usually bash something if it is over-hyped, so this must be something special.
Also about te finish on the special decks. You say they are test decks and want to see how people percueve the new feel and finish combo you are using for feedback, but with only 500 being made (or released) I feel no one will open, or get to feel the combo so I'm not sure if you will get much reception on it.
This isn't overhyping it is UNDERhyping. YOU HAVE NO IDEA how amazing this artwork is. Ross really outdid himself, but of course I did the initial sketches & digital coloring.
It's so good it puts all the other artists to shame.
They should just pick up their Photoshops and never design again.
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Hacked, high, are just being truthful? I am utterly confused...
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So im not supposed to show you guys this but alex sent me some harlequin artwork the other day, and i just have to show you guys.
http://s7.postimage.org/aswujygt7/harlequin.jpg
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So im not supposed to show you guys this but alex sent me some harlequin artwork the other day, and i just have to show you guys.
http://s7.postimage.org/aswujygt7/harlequin.jpg
I'm not clicking this due to the terms of the date.
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Hacked, high, are just being truthful? I am utterly confused...
Trolling and sarcastic reference to TCA...
So im not supposed to show you guys this but alex sent me some harlequin artwork the other day, and i just have to show you guys.
http://s7.postimage.org/aswujygt7/harlequin.jpg
Though after seeing this I must say it does put to shame every other deck I've seen so far.
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@john,
I love the design! I'm gonna pick up a brick of those if I could.
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Hacked, high, are just being truthful? I am utterly confused...
Trolling and sarcastic reference to TCA...
So im not supposed to show you guys this but alex sent me some harlequin artwork the other day, and i just have to show you guys.
http://s7.postimage.org/aswujygt7/harlequin.jpg
Though after seeing this I must say it does put to shame every other deck I've seen so far.
Oh, dude, sorry! I thought this was a joke, but seriously, this deck is freakin AWESOME!
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im hoping alex is just pulling and april fools joke lol
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What John showed you guys is only a taste, the full reveal will go up tonight.
I am also banning John for revealing INDUSTRY SECRETS.
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finally i've been waiting for a long time to see the next teaser i can't wait to see it !
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Alex, is you showing us the deck and you saying it is super amazing an April fools joke?
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I didn't click the link until I was done reading through all of this, but the link really is AWESOME! So will you really be showing us work?
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We, we so excited! I've been waiting to see a teaser! It sounds like its going to be truly incredible (like vortex)
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That's 5AM Uk time... I have stuff to do today/tomorrow. Dammit... we'll see...
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Where are the pictures, is it 12 EST yet?
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Where are the pictures, is it 12 EST yet?
No, 40 minutes to go.
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40 more minutes until 12am EST.
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Uhm.... I have no idea what time it is LoL hahahaha!! but nice link on the teaser there. :P
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Where are the pictures, is it 12 EST yet?
No, 40 minutes to go.
Ok they used to be 3 hours ahead of me but now it is changed because of non DST or DST or whatever.
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I think you're talking about daylight saving? Where are you located? If it's 3 hours, then I'd think PST. We used to have PDT a few weeks ago and we shifted an hour for daylight saving. It's still 3 hours difference regardless though.
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Im so confused. So there should be like a countdown timer or something hahahaha! Since the discourse members come from all over. :P
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Just so everyone knows, there are 8 more minutes
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here is a nifty link for the time. :P
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/eastern-time/
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Finishing up the teaser right now THIS IS SO GOOD OMG YOU GUYZ
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You sound so fishy at times you know that. I am really thinking that this is gonna be April Fools Hahahaha But oh well.. a good laugh wont hurt. :P
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(http://i.imgur.com/FSRt5.jpg)
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I figured it would be a joke... but its not even April Fools Day for me anymore! :bosswalk:
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ha ha ha you ass hat I could be sleeping! Happy april fools mo fo :karrit:
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha I KNEW IT! I knew it I knew itttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE MOST AWESOME THING EVERRRRR!!!!!!!
I hate you and love you right now Alex!!
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If you highlight my original post, you will see an obvious piece of text pointing out this is a joke. :P
Happy April Fool's you guys. Hope yours was as fun as mine. :)
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This... THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. I mean, THAT DETAIL! I seriously can't wait for this deck. This is just amazing.
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I can't wait for the court cards! ;D
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This deck comes with no court cards. Instead, you get extra ad cards and double backers!
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Lol 4112? Would've worked better if you posted this yesterday or earlier this week. But announcing that you'll put out a teaser really didn't get as many people as it should have.
By the way, anything on the back design? >.<
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This deck comes with no court cards. Instead, you get extra ad cards and double backers!
;D MAH FAVORITE THINGS! Im so happy i might FIRE MAH LAZAR
(http://files.myopera.com/MichaelFox/albums/689377/IMM%20FIRIN%27%20MAH%20LAZER.jpg)
Lazar has been fired... I hope everyone is still alive.
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This deck comes with no court cards. Instead, you get extra ad cards and double backers!
YES!! I can't wait for these! I dont like complete and usable decks anyway. I knew it wasn't like you to bash others and say your design would put all others to shame.
But are you actually going to show us anything?
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This deck comes with no court cards. Instead, you get extra ad cards and double backers!
YES!! I can't wait for these! I dont like complete and usable decks anyway. I knew it wasn't like you to bash others and say your design would put all others to shame.
But are you actually going to show us anything?
Dude? "April Fool's" mean anything? :)) He'll show us Harlequin - just not tonight!
"Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi, upon exiting the smuggler's storage compartments of the Millennium Falcon, "Star Wars, Episode IV: A New Hope"
Yes, I am a Star Wars nerd.
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This is awesome! Best deck ever designed! And happy April Fool's every one :D
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This deck comes with no court cards. Instead, you get extra ad cards and double backers!
YES!! I can't wait for these! I dont like complete and usable decks anyway. I knew it wasn't like you to bash others and say your design would put all others to shame.
But are you actually going to show us anything?
Dude? "April Fool's" mean anything? :)) He'll show us Harlequin - just not tonight!
"Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi, upon exiting the smuggler's storage compartments of the Millennium Falcon, "Star Wars, Episode IV: A New Hope"
Yes, I am a Star Wars nerd.
I know but he said awile ago that a new teaser would be up soon so I was just asking.
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Alex - I think you owe us a real sneak peek after that one... How bout it???
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I'd love to, but there have been some delays in the artwork. I don't want to put up sub-par/incomplete work for the sake of hype building. I'd rather take a small hit hit in marketing and show you guys something worth looking at.
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I'd love to, but there have been some delays in the artwork. I don't want to put up sub-par/incomplete work for the sake of hype building. I'd rather take a small hit hit in marketing and show you guys something worth looking at.
I know this is a hard question but do you have any idea as to about when you are planning to release the teaser?
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I am so glad no teasers were shown. I would rarther see no marketing on these cards until Vortex is in the hands of the people.
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I am so glad no teasers were shown. I would rarther see no marketing on these cards until Vortex is in the hands of the people.
That's kind of what I am going after. My goal was to not launch the Harlequin KS until Vortex has finished shipping, but that's unrealistic and I don't think you guys should have to wait an extra three months so that the last person who ordered a Vortex gets his deck.
Instead, the launch will be about mid-way, and with Vortex decks shipping starting mid-April, it should be on par with marketing.
Still, marketing is a necessity when it comes to selling a product. I would prefer not to market until Vortex ships out, but realistically I won't sell any decks if I do no marketing at all until that point.
Decks get printed when profit is made at this point in time for me. With Vortex I managed to break even after all the shenanigans with the USPCC and of course the est. shipping costs. With Vortex I was chasing a dream to see my work come to life regardless of cost. With Harlequin, it's that, but it's also a means of supporting my life.
I'm shooting for some profit on the Harlequin release so that I can continue to do this for the foreseeable future and release what will likely be my favorite deck ever, the sequel to the Vortex.
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I understand you are trying to run a business and I fault no one for trying to make it a success. I have backed almost all the decks that went up on kickstarter and although they met there goal I continue to receive numerous updates explaining numerous delays. One was promised to be delivered in Jan. and now it has an unknown date of delivery. Me not receiving playing cards when I was told I would get them does not have a major impact on my well being. I was really happy to see Sean get that Galvanic deck funded and I was amongst the first to pledge but when I saw he started plugging another deck prior to completed funding on kickstarter it got my goat a little. Having had success and failure in my own businesses I know it is not an easy task. I would like to think your product will speak for itself. Of course if you feel a little plugging will benefit your business, more powere to you. I like to see others succeed. I am simply stating my opinion about this kickstarter thing. I would probably have a little more respect if no info on the new deck were released until production on the first were complete but it does not mean I will not back your next project.
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I understand you are trying to run a business and I fault no one for trying to make it a success. I have backed almost all the decks that went up on kickstarter and although they met there goal I continue to receive numerous updates explaining numerous delays. One was promised to be delivered in Jan. and now it has an unknown date of delivery. Me not receiving playing cards when I was told I would get them does not have a major impact on my well being. I was really happy to see Sean get that Galvanic deck funded and I was amongst the first to pledge but when I saw he started plugging another deck prior to completed funding on kickstarter it got my goat a little. Having had success and failure in my own businesses I know it is not an easy task. I would like to think your product will speak for itself. Of course if you feel a little plugging will benefit your business, more powere to you. I like to see others succeed. I am simply stating my opinion about this kickstarter thing. I would probably have a little more respect if no info on the new deck were released until production on the first were complete but it does not mean I will not back your next project.
The release date for Harlequin has not changed since I started AetherCards last year. The release date for the next deck is already set in stone as well. I wanted to release the Harlequin in Spring, but the countless delays from USPCC made me push it to mid/late spring as opposed to early Spring.
Marketing is usually a good idea to begin a few months before release and exponentially increase it the closer you get to launch. A product speaks for itself, this is true, but you must give it a venue in which it can speak in. If sliced bread had no marketing, we would have no sliced bread. There has to be some kind of sales push to spread the word about any product.
In the card industry specifically, you can see the highest funded projects and the most popular companies have the best marketing tactics, while the least funded and least popular have little to no marketing or bad marketing.
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I understand you are trying to run a business and I fault no one for trying to make it a success. I have backed almost all the decks that went up on kickstarter and although they met there goal I continue to receive numerous updates explaining numerous delays. One was promised to be delivered in Jan. and now it has an unknown date of delivery. Me not receiving playing cards when I was told I would get them does not have a major impact on my well being. I was really happy to see Sean get that Galvanic deck funded and I was amongst the first to pledge but when I saw he started plugging another deck prior to completed funding on kickstarter it got my goat a little. Having had success and failure in my own businesses I know it is not an easy task. I would like to think your product will speak for itself. Of course if you feel a little plugging will benefit your business, more powere to you. I like to see others succeed. I am simply stating my opinion about this kickstarter thing. I would probably have a little more respect if no info on the new deck were released until production on the first were complete but it does not mean I will not back your next project.
The release date for Harlequin has not changed since I started AetherCards last year. The release date for the next deck is already set in stone as well. I wanted to release the Harlequin in Spring, but the countless delays from USPCC made me push it to mid/late spring as opposed to early Spring.
Marketing is usually a good idea to begin a few months before release and exponentially increase it the closer you get to launch. A product speaks for itself, this is true, but you must give it a venue in which it can speak in. If sliced bread had no marketing, we would have no sliced bread. There has to be some kind of sales push to spread the word about any product.
In the card industry specifically, you can see the highest funded projects and the most popular companies have the best marketing tactics, while the least funded and least popular have little to no marketing or bad marketing.
I have been wondering, you have a huge youtube channel. When the Kickstarter starts, why don't you post trailers and links to the Kickstarter on your channel?
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I understand you are trying to run a business and I fault no one for trying to make it a success. I have backed almost all the decks that went up on kickstarter and although they met there goal I continue to receive numerous updates explaining numerous delays. One was promised to be delivered in Jan. and now it has an unknown date of delivery. Me not receiving playing cards when I was told I would get them does not have a major impact on my well being. I was really happy to see Sean get that Galvanic deck funded and I was amongst the first to pledge but when I saw he started plugging another deck prior to completed funding on kickstarter it got my goat a little. Having had success and failure in my own businesses I know it is not an easy task. I would like to think your product will speak for itself. Of course if you feel a little plugging will benefit your business, more powere to you. I like to see others succeed. I am simply stating my opinion about this kickstarter thing. I would probably have a little more respect if no info on the new deck were released until production on the first were complete but it does not mean I will not back your next project.
The release date for Harlequin has not changed since I started AetherCards last year. The release date for the next deck is already set in stone as well. I wanted to release the Harlequin in Spring, but the countless delays from USPCC made me push it to mid/late spring as opposed to early Spring.
Marketing is usually a good idea to begin a few months before release and exponentially increase it the closer you get to launch. A product speaks for itself, this is true, but you must give it a venue in which it can speak in. If sliced bread had no marketing, we would have no sliced bread. There has to be some kind of sales push to spread the word about any product.
In the card industry specifically, you can see the highest funded projects and the most popular companies have the best marketing tactics, while the least funded and least popular have little to no marketing or bad marketing.
I have been wondering, you have a huge youtube channel. When the Kickstarter starts, why don't you post trailers and links to the Kickstarter on your channel?
I did that last time around. It helps only marginally. Take a look at Mismag, someone who has countless more subs than I do. Even he could BARELY push a few sales for his deck via his channel.
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I understand you are trying to run a business and I fault no one for trying to make it a success. I have backed almost all the decks that went up on kickstarter and although they met there goal I continue to receive numerous updates explaining numerous delays. One was promised to be delivered in Jan. and now it has an unknown date of delivery. Me not receiving playing cards when I was told I would get them does not have a major impact on my well being. I was really happy to see Sean get that Galvanic deck funded and I was amongst the first to pledge but when I saw he started plugging another deck prior to completed funding on kickstarter it got my goat a little. Having had success and failure in my own businesses I know it is not an easy task. I would like to think your product will speak for itself. Of course if you feel a little plugging will benefit your business, more powere to you. I like to see others succeed. I am simply stating my opinion about this kickstarter thing. I would probably have a little more respect if no info on the new deck were released until production on the first were complete but it does not mean I will not back your next project.
The release date for Harlequin has not changed since I started AetherCards last year. The release date for the next deck is already set in stone as well. I wanted to release the Harlequin in Spring, but the countless delays from USPCC made me push it to mid/late spring as opposed to early Spring.
Marketing is usually a good idea to begin a few months before release and exponentially increase it the closer you get to launch. A product speaks for itself, this is true, but you must give it a venue in which it can speak in. If sliced bread had no marketing, we would have no sliced bread. There has to be some kind of sales push to spread the word about any product.
In the card industry specifically, you can see the highest funded projects and the most popular companies have the best marketing tactics, while the least funded and least popular have little to no marketing or bad marketing.
I have been wondering, you have a huge youtube channel. When the Kickstarter starts, why don't you post trailers and links to the Kickstarter on your channel?
I did that last time around. It helps only marginally. Take a look at Mismag, someone who has countless more subs than I do. Even he could BARELY push a few sales for his deck via his channel.
Ya, you are right.
However it wasn't Mismag's deck. It was only named after him. It was DarkSleightZ's deck, now sold out:
http://afpcc.itsesproductions.com/
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I tracked the sales of that deck for the first week or two. They sold a few bricks the first week of launch, after Mismag's video went up. I don't think there were that many to begin with so selling out over the course of half a year isn't saying much.
After seeing how poorly Mismag's video bumped sales for the deck, I stopped trying to contact him about sponsorship entirely. His demographic doesn't have money, and most of them watch his videos for the insane amounts of stuff he gives away and the magic tricks he teaches. The majority aren't even card collectors and don't even know such a hobby exists.
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I tracked the sales of that deck for the first week or two. They sold a few bricks the first week of launch, after Mismag's video went up. I don't think there were that many to begin with so selling out over the course of half a year isn't saying much.
After seeing how poorly Mismag's video bumped sales for the deck, I stopped trying to contact him about sponsorship entirely. His demographic doesn't have money, and most of them watch his videos for the insane amounts of stuff he gives away and the magic tricks he teaches. The majority aren't even card collectors and don't even know such a hobby exists.
I agree with that, when I first got into magic I watched his videos, I never even knew that card collecting existed. What really got me into collecting was when I bought a deck of pink fashion bikes, on the inside there was also a shadow masters 5 of hearts (idk how it got there or wtf happened with that but it was in there) I thought to myself "wouldn't a deck that every card was in that theme be cool" so I googled it and found Ellusionist... then my collecting began.
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yea i think most people go to mismag for free stuff. i rarely like the tricks i see but enjoy watching the vids sometimes.
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I tracked the sales of that deck for the first week or two. They sold a few bricks the first week of launch, after Mismag's video went up. I don't think there were that many to begin with so selling out over the course of half a year isn't saying much.
After seeing how poorly Mismag's video bumped sales for the deck, I stopped trying to contact him about sponsorship entirely. His demographic doesn't have money, and most of them watch his videos for the insane amounts of stuff he gives away and the magic tricks he teaches. The majority aren't even card collectors and don't even know such a hobby exists.
Ya, you are right. The best way to promote decks of cards is through reviewers rather than big youtubers. Many people just subscribe to mismag for the contests.