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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: Don Boyer on December 04, 2011, 05:37:20 AM
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Go look for the 52cartes post on this deck - the cards look totally amazing and there's a video showing about 80% of what the deck will look like. Good transformation decks are hard to find, and this one looks great.
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For those who have not yet seen the work of José Emmanuel (http://www.facebook.com/victor.e) , here's a compilation video and some pictures. You can see all of its ongoing work on Tumblr (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://ncyclopedia.tumblr.com/&usg=ALkJrhiVk8Y8ZRoEQ5TXpGStgVqWk5SoGw) .
All maps were produced using techniques of "paper cutting".
Hopefully see this game next year printed with kickstarter.
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Here is the link to the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=keKFmqMhw9o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=keKFmqMhw9o)
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Now thats a deck with a story!
Thats incredible! I saw the pics that 52cartes posted and I wasn't impressed. Then I saw the video, and man thats an awesome deck! I definitely wouldn't mind having a couple of those in my collection!
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I will most definitely be pledging this deck. I love it. If anyone finds the link before I do, please post.
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I will most definitely be pledging this deck. I love it. If anyone finds the link before I do, please post.
haha same it look so cool and every card is so detail !!
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I agree! These look amazing. I absolutely love the clever customised faces on each and every card. I'll definitely be looking to pledge on this.
Although, anyone else surprised by the fact that the YouTube video's description says they're 2 feet tall?
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I agree! These look amazing. I absolutely love the clever customised faces on each and every card. I'll definitely be looking to pledge on this.
Although, anyone else surprised by the fact that the YouTube video's description says they're 2 feet tall?
Haha he designed them extra large like that. They are a life size paper cutting project. It would be pretty hard for him to cut out all the details if it were small. He'll be scaling down the size for the actual decks (if he does indeed do a kickstarter). I've been following this on tumblr and he hasn't put a great deal of emphasis on it being a lot more than a project so we'll see what happens. I'd like to have a deck because it's been fun watching the deck become what it is.
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Wow, those look great! Also, I bet you can figure out what my favorite card among those is. :-P Wonder if I can get some premium print to frame on that Kickstarter campaign!
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Haha he designed them extra large like that. They are a life size paper cutting project. It would be pretty hard for him to cut out all the details if it were small. He'll be scaling down the size for the actual decks (if he does indeed do a kickstarter). I've been following this on tumblr and he hasn't put a great deal of emphasis on it being a lot more than a project so we'll see what happens. I'd like to have a deck because it's been fun watching the deck become what it is.
Oh, good. I was pretty confused. xD Thanks for clearing that up.
I really hope that he does do a Kickstarter deck. I think they'd look great as a Poker Size deck.
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Haha he designed them extra large like that. They are a life size paper cutting project. It would be pretty hard for him to cut out all the details if it were small. He'll be scaling down the size for the actual decks (if he does indeed do a kickstarter). I've been following this on tumblr and he hasn't put a great deal of emphasis on it being a lot more than a project so we'll see what happens. I'd like to have a deck because it's been fun watching the deck become what it is.
Oh, good. I was pretty confused. xD Thanks for clearing that up.
I really hope that he does do a Kickstarter deck. I think they'd look great as a Poker Size deck.
Yeah it would!! I like how each individual card is so unique. The art is so simple to, its very nice looking!
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Yeah it would!! I like how each individual card is so unique. The art is so simple to, its very nice looking!
It is! The simplicity certainly gives it a special charm. In a way, it reminds me of the old Harlequin Playing Cards (http://www.endebrock.de/coll/pages/usa130.html). Coincidence that this is the new AetherCards deck name? I doubt it. ;)
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I remember hearing about this deck and when he first started this project. It has grown so much an I will absolutely get some.
Can you imagine how awesome an uncut sheet would look!
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Someone should contact the artist, he used to frequent UC but disappeared. Very talented guy, and a very cool deck of cards I will be sure to back.
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Someone should contact the artist, he used to frequent UC but disappeared. Very talented guy, and a very cool deck of cards I will be sure to back.
Why don't you? His email is at the end of the video.
It is emjose@gmail.com
Also, is anyone else wondering what the backs will look like?
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Also, is anyone else wondering what the backs will look like?
Totally! I hope it's some kind of crazy art on the back. And I imagine it'll be quite a complicated, intricate design. I'm not sure why, that's just how I picture it. :P
I'm looking forward to some pictures, for sure.
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Also, is anyone else wondering what the backs will look like?
Totally! I hope it's some kind of crazy art on the back. And I imagine it'll be quite a complicated, intricate design. I'm not sure why, that's just how I picture it. :P
I'm looking forward to some pictures, for sure.
If the faces are any indication, the backs will be sick.
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I emailed him a couple days ago actually! I let you know if he says anything. And an uncut sheet would be dope!!
What are you favorite cards? If you like them all then what are you top 3 favorites? (link to the tumblr at the top of this thread)
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Sorry, I can't even limit it to three. It'll have to be five!
Mine are the Nine of Diamonds, the Seven of Clubs, the Three of Clubs, the Two of Hearts and the Five of Spades. They're just all really clever, awesome looking designs.
Yours?
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I just got a reply and here is what Emmanuel had to say about the future of his deck...
"Thank you! Yes, I would love to get the cards printed as a real deck, but I’m not sure about funding. I have thought about kickstarter, but I need to do some research first. I’ll keep you updated."
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I just got a reply and here is what Emmanuel had to say about the future of his deck...
"Thank you! Yes, I would love to get the cards printed as a real deck, but I’m not sure about funding. I have thought about kickstarter, but I need to do some research first. I’ll keep you updated."
Oh, that's great news! I hope he decides to.
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O.O I really like it, i can't wait to see the back design
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Sorry, I can't even limit it to three. It'll have to be five!
Mine are the Nine of Diamonds, the Seven of Clubs, the Three of Clubs, the Two of Hearts and the Five of Spades. They're just all really clever, awesome looking designs.
Yours?
Well I'll tell you my five favorites then as well!! haha I really like the King of Hearts, Queen of Clubs, Six of Diamonds, Three of Hearts, and Queen of Spades. Those are the cards that really caught my eye and I thought looked the coolest; but, the rest of the cards also look really nice.
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I love the 4 of clubs!
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You all should go check out the ten of diamonds!! Emmanuel does it agin :D this might be one of my favorites so far. What do you guys think?
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For this deck, yes I like some cards design, but when they are all together.
I think it's not good at all.
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This would look awesome for an uncut sheet. Hopefully this does go to Kickstart with an uncut sheet option.
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Hi folks, I'm Emmanuel and I'm the artist of this deck. Many thanks have to go to Brown_Baggs for telling me about The Discourse!
It's been great seeing the feedback so far and if you have any questions I'll do my best to answer them.
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Hi, Emmanuel! You said you were thinking about using KickStarter for funding, but you needed to do some research. If you decide to use Kickstarter, what kind of general time would you be putting it up? Like, summer 2012?
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Hi Lushbob, if I use Kickstarter, I'm hoping it will be put up in the spring.
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Hi Lushbob, if I use Kickstarter, I'm hoping it will be put up in the spring.
Oh, awesome. I look forward to it! Thanks!
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Hi Lushbob, if I use Kickstarter, I'm hoping it will be put up in the spring.
Make sure to include uncut sheets :)
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Make sure to include uncut sheets :)
I second that! Uncut sheets would look amazing.
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Thirding uncut sheets and as I said earlier, prints of single cards would be appreciated as well!
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Im dying to see the back design! Im sure it will be creative and artistic just like the fronts.
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Thirding uncut sheets and as I said earlier, prints of single cards would be appreciated as well!
Do you mean full size prints? Or just poker size card prints?
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Any one of those would be neat.
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A poker sized print would be pointless.
If there were prints, they should be large prints
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Im dying to see the back design! Im sure it will be creative and artistic just like the fronts.
I haven't designed the back yet, but I will as soon as I finish the King of Diamonds and the 2 Jokers.
I realize I may be opening a can of worms by asking this, but do you think the back should have a border?
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Im dying to see the back design! Im sure it will be creative and artistic just like the fronts.
I haven't designed the back yet, but I will as soon as I finish the King of Diamonds and the 2 Jokers.
I realize I may be opening a can of worms by asking this, but do you think the back should have a border?
You did just open a can of worms :P
But I think you should have a border. You can always try with and without, and see which looks best!
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I generally dislike decks without borders, so I would highly appreciate borders.
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Cool, I've been leaning on having a border.
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A poker sized print would be pointless.
If there were prints, they should be large prints
I wasn't sure if you meant you wanted to be able to just buy single cards on their own, rather than a whole deck of the cards. But you're right, that would be pretty pointless.
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Oh, and about the border issue. I'd probably recommend having a border. I don't personally have a distinct preference, but I know that many people prefer a deck with borders. And on the whole, I think borders make decks look a lot more neat and tidy, and a little more professional too.
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Thirding uncut sheets and as I said earlier, prints of single cards would be appreciated as well!
Do you mean full size prints? Or just poker size card prints?
Just buy a deck - then you can have 56 poker-sized prints! :o
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I realize I may be opening a can of worms by asking this, but do you think the back should have a border?
There is a thread on that topic and I was arguing heavily in favour of borderless designs there (well, just that I'd like to see some more rather than designers having to avoid it due to so many people instantly dismissing borderless decks). For this deck, though? I don't think they should be a borderless deck. For me, your design makes great use of the white space and I think it would be jarring on the whole to lose that on the back of the cards. you don't need to go for any kind of standard border, though; it doesn't need to be a frame. I dunno, I just think that it's a shame that every single deck HAS to have so many millimetres of white space around each edge (and no more, either! No interesting shapes breaking off it, nothing!) or all hell breaks loose. this is supposed to be a creative medium after all.
Sorry, I'll just gather up the worms and replace the lid...
Anyway; I love what you've done so far enough that I'll probably buy them no matter what you do but I think the way your designs have been made on the front, the back would not suit a completely borderless design.
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Just buy a deck - then you can have 56 poker-sized prints! :o
Exactly what I thought!
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Anyway; I love what you've done so far enough that I'll probably buy them no matter what you do but I think the way your designs have been made on the front, the back would not suit a completely borderless design.
I agree. I think your deck would definitely suit a bordered design better than a borderless.
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Anyway; I love what you've done so far enough that I'll probably buy them no matter what you do but I think the way your designs have been made on the front, the back would not suit a completely borderless design.
I agree. I think your deck would definitely suit a bordered design better than a borderless.
Yeah I agree. The use of white space should carry over the back of the cards. I could see this deck looking amazing with a simple back, similar to the bee stingers. The focus is on the cards themselves and their artwork. I think a nice back for this deck would be a simple but elegant one that compliments the work on the front of the cards.
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I'll do my best :) Just to let you guys know, I plan to have a different name for this deck. The "Transformation Deck" is too general.
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I'll do my best :) Just to let you guys know, I plan to have a different name for this deck. The "Transformation Deck" is too general.
Without a doubt it is. "Transformation" is a style of deck, not really a brand name. It's like naming a pack of cards "Poker" or "Bridge" or "Jumbo Index".
The name that comes immediately to mind would be "Papercuts" - as long as you don't mind that there's a magic trick by the same name. (Or is it a magic video with a bunch of tricks that has that name? Anyone?) Some acknowledgement of the art method used to create the deck faces would be in order, I think, and would make this deck stand out from other designs.
Imagine this being used for a "Cut-and-Restored" trick! ;D
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I'll do my best :) Just to let you guys know, I plan to have a different name for this deck. The "Transformation Deck" is too general.
I see what you mean, but I quite like it. I guess that's just because that's how I know it now. But I mean, it's your deck, call it what you like. I'm sure you can think of a better name if you think this one isn't good enough. Good luck!
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I'll do my best :) Just to let you guys know, I plan to have a different name for this deck. The "Transformation Deck" is too general.
I agree. The deck has a ton of possibilities for a name though so figuring out some would be hard
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So Emmanuel posted on his facebook page today that he is going to change the name of his deck to....
The Curator Deck!
I love the name! What does everybody else think of it?
Also what does everybody think of the new cards?
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Heres the new pics of the deck!
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He's building up a lot of hype for a deck he hasn't even decided if he's going to make! ;)
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He's building up a lot of hype for a deck he hasn't even decided if he's going to make! ;)
Thats true but I have a feeling he will make it.
But its always good to get peoples opinions first. It would suck to make a deck and have no one buy it!
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It's really us who are making the hype. He had a facebook page and a tumblr just to allow people to follow his projects journey.
We started this thread and I invited him to join us (which he did :) ). I'm sure that he has thought about it more after I talked to him, and he saw everybody talking about his cards. I really hope he does print this deck it is one of those truly inspiring pieces of art.
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My comment was more light-hearted than anything else. If anything, the originals belong in a museum - this is probably one of the finest modern examples of a transformation deck ever created.
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He's building up a lot of hype for a deck he hasn't even decided if he's going to make! ;)
Thats true but I have a feeling he will make it.
But its always good to get peoples opinions first. It would suck to make a deck and have no one buy it!
Haha, I would be beaten by family and friends if I chose not to print the deck ???
I am a little wary now of using Kickstarter due to Alex's recent experience with them, as well as fear of insufficient funding (RIP Galvanic deck :( )
However, I have to make these cards a reality.
My comment was more light-hearted than anything else. If anything, the originals belong in a museum - this is probably one of the finest modern examples of a transformation deck ever created.
Good@Sabacc, you are way too kind! My deck is nowhere near the caliber of Meeuwissen's The Key of the Kingdom, which is undoubtedly a fantastic transformation deck.
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Count me in, too! Those cards are amazing! :o
If this does get printed, it'll be the first truly original deck in a while. Talent and creativity at their best. ;D
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He's building up a lot of hype for a deck he hasn't even decided if he's going to make! ;)
Thats true but I have a feeling he will make it.
But its always good to get peoples opinions first. It would suck to make a deck and have no one buy it!
Haha, I would be beaten by family and friends if I chose not to print the deck ???
I am a little wary now of using Kickstarter due to Alex's recent experience with them, as well as fear of insufficient funding (RIP Galvanic deck :( )
However, I have to make these cards a reality.
My comment was more light-hearted than anything else. If anything, the originals belong in a museum - this is probably one of the finest modern examples of a transformation deck ever created.
Good@Sabacc, you are way too kind! My deck is nowhere near the caliber of Meeuwissen's The Key of the Kingdom, which is undoubtedly a fantastic transformation deck.
Send us a link to any images around of that deck. Is The Key of the Kingdom a modern deck (created within your lifetime, let's say) or something a bit older? I'm not familiar with it at all.
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Tony Meeuwissen's Key to the Kingdom is awesome. Every illustrated card covers a nursery rhyme, and it was first published in the early 90s (it comes as a book set with an accompanying deck). I got mine from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Key-Kingdom-Tony-Meeuwissen/dp/B000OV1702/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324963387&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Key-Kingdom-Tony-Meeuwissen/dp/B000OV1702/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324963387&sr=8-1)
Here is a link to the card images:
http://www.dxpo-playingcards.com/xpo/art/xpokey01.htm (http://www.dxpo-playingcards.com/xpo/art/xpokey01.htm)
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That's an awesome deck. There are many others there as well - check these out, people!
http://www.dxpo-playingcards.com/xpo/art/archives.htm
Totally impressive works of art.
I'm humbled.
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I missed out on backing Alex's deck, but I would 100% back you up and do anything to help make it a reality. i'm a photographer and graphic designer and i know what hard work you've put into this! I love all your designs, and couldn't have done anything better or more original myself. I hope and pray you decide to print this, I'll be investing as much as I can! :D
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I hope and pray you decide to print this, I'll be investing as much as I can! :D
Thank you Derek; once I figure out how and when, they will be printed :)
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Now THIS is what playing card companies should be striving for - decks that genuinely qualify as works of art. No cheesy, lame clip art, no goofy color combinations, no claims that it's valuable simply because it's as rare as the Hope Diamond (replicas sold in the lobby)... Those decks are all recently created, and any one of them could be proudly displayed in an art museum and would be warmly received.
Can ANY of the popular card companies we all have come to know and love (or hate, or both) make these claims with a straight face about their decks? Works like the Sentinels and the Infinity come close, closer than most. No, not every deck should be like this, but they should certainly be much more front-and-center than off in the shadows, barely heard of. Who here wouldn't freak out if they could get any one of those awesome art decks from a company like E, D&D, TBC, T11, DBlaine, etc.? Imagine the magic tricks you could devise with a deck that practically tells a story on the face of each and every card?
If Merz67 pulled a deck like this out of his butt and started selling it, I would be struck dead on sight. Which I suppose is a good thing, since the odds of it happening are the same as the odds of me having dinner tomorrow night with Andy Warhol, Harry Potter, King Henry VIII, the Curies, Amelia Earheart, Jeanne D'Arc and Gandalf over at the Windows on the World Restaurant on the 106th floor of 1 World Trade Center (the North tower), all of us sipping absinthe while concocting the Grand Unified Theory that eluded Albert Einstein, who will just so happen to be our dessert waiter for the evening!
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how much are you planning to sell it for and will there be uncut ?? coz that will be cool
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how much are you planning to sell it for and will there be uncut ?? coz that will be cool
Yeah, I don't really care too much for uncuts as of now (because I have none, although I am expecting a Revision 1 uncut!!) I will get on of these if they are offered. This would by far be one of the best uncuts!!
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Hey guys, count me in! :o
The deck is... amazing
AMAZING!
I personally would like the deck without borders... because it takes away from the actual face of the cards...
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Hey guys, count me in! :o
The deck is... amazing
AMAZING!
I personally would like the deck without borders... because it takes away from the actual face of the cards...
I think that the borders would be nice because there is a good balance between the red and white space on the front of the cards and I think that backs should follow suit. Just my opinion though.
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how much are you planning to sell it for and will there be uncut ?? coz that will be cool
I haven't calculated the price yet, but there will be uncut sheets.
I personally would like the deck without borders... because it takes away from the actual face of the cards...
The back will have a border. The overall back design is simplistic.
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We should get a discount for uncut sheets, because we're awesome ;)
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Yeah, a simplistic back for this deck is definitely the way to go. There's no reason to take the attention away from the faces. :)
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I actually like the idea of a "themed" back to go with the artistic medium - a two-way pattern that somehow tastefully incorporates scissors and paper-cutting in the design!
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I'm super stoked to hear there will be uncuts!! This is one deck that I know I'll snag one and get it framed.
@Ncyclopedia do you know when you want to release this deck or start a Kickstarter campaign? Heck, you may not even be thinking about yet. haha
I'm excited for this one, but I know I can be patient and my wallet also needs a break haha ;D
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I actually like the idea of a "themed" back to go with the artistic medium - a two-way pattern that somehow tastefully incorporates scissors and paper-cutting in the design!
Funny that you say this because scissors are a part of the back.
@Ncyclopedia do you know when you want to release this deck or start a Kickstarter campaign? Heck, you may not even be thinking about yet. haha
I'd like to release it by the summer, but that's not set in stone yet.
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Oh awesome!! Summer sounds like a good time to release it. Hopefully the releases will have slowed down a little but more and your deck will get some good time in the spotlight. Although I'm not worried with everybody's positive reaction around here haha
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Oh, wow. I just saw the back design on 52cartes. It looks awesome!
http://52cartes.wordpress.com/2011/12/30/the-curator-deck-back-design/
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Sorry for the repost but I attached the pic of the back design
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I really enjoy the simplicity of the back, and the scissors fits every card well.
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The back looks amazing, I need a deck of these NAO!
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The back looks awesome!! Very simple and the scissors look good. It's very classy in my opinion. Honestly, it wasn't what I was expecting at all but it looks great. Can't wait for this one
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I'd say that's not what I was expecting either, but the unique art in this deck is wonderful and of he Kickstarts it I'll certainly be on board.
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That's one extremely classy deck back. I like it VERY much.
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Just to add to the support, I will pledge if this deck gets kickstarted. I like the simple yet pretty designs. Every card seems to be telling a story.
Count me in!
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The ONLY problem I have with this deck is the Ace of Diamonds is off-centered.
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The ONLY problem I have with this deck is the Ace of Diamonds is off-centered.
Is it? It looks fine to me.
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The ONLY problem I have with this deck is the Ace of Diamonds is off-centered.
Is it? It looks fine to me.
I mean the compass inside the diamond is shifted upwards.
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I mean the compass inside the diamond is shifted upwards.
Ah, point taken. That doesn't bother me in the slightest, though. :P
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I mean the compass inside the diamond is shifted upwards.
Ah, point taken. That doesn't bother me in the slightest, though. :P
It isn't a big deal, but my slight OCD makes it bother me.
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It isn't a big deal, but my slight OCD makes it bother me.
Haha, I'm surprised mine hasn't kicked in yet. I guess it'll be a bit more obvious when it's on a real poker size card, rather than an image on the internet.
Either way, I can definitely see where you're coming from. ;)
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Actually, the circle is in the middle, the north is only higher because of the flower under it... I wouldn't consider it a mistake. It would look much worse if the circle itself wasn't centered.
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Happy New Year Everybody!
I mean the compass inside the diamond is shifted upwards.
Hmm, I measured the compass/circle to be in the center of the diamond, so I'm not sure how it appear shifted (maybe the fleur de lis at the top is making it appear that way?).
Anyways, Thank you to everyone for your thoughts on the back. I honestly had no idea how it would be received due to its simplicity.
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Happy New Year Everybody!
I mean the compass inside the diamond is shifted upwards.
Hmm, I measured the compass/circle to be in the center of the diamond, so I'm not sure how it appear shifted (maybe the fleur de lis at the top is making it appear that way?).
Anyways, Thank you to everyone for your thoughts on the back. I honestly had no idea how it would be received due to its simplicity.
I can't wait for the deck, and I honestly don't mind about the Ace of Diamonds, It's centered, but my eyes are just perceiving it that way. Either way, it's an amazing deck, and I can't wait to get some.
P.S. Shouldn't this thread be renamed :)
P.S.S. I forgot people in PST, so it is still valid for it to say next year :)
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I can't wait for the deck, and I honestly don't mind about the Ace of Diamonds, It's centered, but my eyes are just perceiving it that way. Either way, it's an amazing deck, and I can't wait to get some.
Thanks man, and no sweat about the Ace (it's not the first time others have perceived something I missed). According to a friend, there's a a skull in one of the cards, but this is definitely not a BBM deck ???
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I can't wait for the deck, and I honestly don't mind about the Ace of Diamonds, It's centered, but my eyes are just perceiving it that way. Either way, it's an amazing deck, and I can't wait to get some.
Thanks man, and no sweat about the Ace (it's not the first time others have perceived something I missed). According to a friend, there's a a skull in one of the cards, but this is definitely not a BBM deck ???
Thank goodness about that last sentence!
What card is the scull on? I looked at all the cards, but I couldn't see it. The only thing that is remotely close is the totem pole card.
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What card is the scull on? I looked at all the cards, but I couldn't see it. The only thing that is remotely close is the totem pole card.
The 8 of Clubs. He says there's a skull framed by the necklace. To him, the 2 pips at the top are the eyes and the top center pip is the nose.
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Right, the eight of clubs! I thought it was gonna be the five of clubs... Can you guys see that one? ::)
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Right, the eight of clubs! I thought it was gonna be the five of clubs... Can you guys see that one? ::)
I really wish I could show everyone these cards in person. Only my family and a handful of friends have seen them. For the 5 of clubs, the paper is cut so thin for the strings that they're actually pluckable.
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P.S. Shouldn't this thread be renamed :)
Done and done.
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Right, the eight of clubs! I thought it was gonna be the five of clubs... Can you guys see that one? ::)
I really wish I could show everyone these cards in person. Only my family and a handful of friends have seen them. For the 5 of clubs, the paper is cut so thin for the strings that they're actually pluckable.
That sounds amazing, I wish I could see them in person too. :)
Just an idea, since the ace of spades is a single piece of paper, would you consider having copies of it laser-cut or something as one of the kickstarter rewards? That would look amazing.
(Acrylic should work well.)
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Hey Ncyclopedia, I know you have pride in all these cards, and this may be tough, but what is you favorite card/ cards.
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That sounds amazing, I wish I could see them in person too. :)
Just an idea, since the ace of spades is a single piece of paper, would you consider having copies of it laser-cut or something as one of the kickstarter rewards? That would look amazing.
(Acrylic should work well.)
Hmm, that's something to thing about. I still have the original paper template I created for the ace, so it's a possibility.
Hey Ncyclopedia, I know you have pride in all these cards, and this may be tough, but what is you favorite card/ cards.
That is tough, since every new card I made became my new favorite, lol. However, I would probably have to single out the Ace of Spades. It started it all, and if it wasn't for a last-minute decision to sketch out the phoenix, the cards wouldn't have existed.
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http://ncyclopedia.tumblr.com/
You made a second ace of spades design? Are you considering a change? Or is it a gaff for the phoenix transformation? ;D
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It's the start of his new deck. It's bird themed.
I'm excited for another year of great art!
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Oh, right, I missed that part. A whole deck with birds for a theme sounds fantastic! ;D
Also, I started working on ideas for a few transformation cards myself, and working with the pips to create something really is quite a challenge. It makes me appreciate this deck even more. ;)
Not to mention my deck isn't nearly as elaborate, and I'm not necessarily planning on doing it on every card, since it's not even meant to be a transformation deck to begin with.
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Oh, right, I missed that part. A whole deck with birds for a theme sounds fantastic! ;D
Also, I started working on ideas for a few transformation cards myself, and working with the pips to create something really is quite a challenge. It makes me appreciate this deck even more. ;)
Not to mention my deck isn't nearly as elaborate, and I'm not necessarily planning on doing it on every card, since it's not even meant to be a transformation deck to begin with.
Thanks Moon! You know I love your deck's theme, and I can't wait to see the finished product :)
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@Ncyclopedia: you have some serious potential where it comes to art and design. I love all the work I've seen so far. Get this Kickstarter project off the ground already! (Or perhaps you can find a private backer or two?)
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@Ncyclopedia: you have some serious potential where it comes to art and design. I love all the work I've seen so far. Get this Kickstarter project off the ground already! (Or perhaps you can find a private backer or two?)
Thank you! I'm working on it!
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Thank you! I'm working on it!
Good to hear! I'm eager to get a chance to pledge for this deck. Amazing work. ;D
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If it doesn't cost to much, I think you should add a custom seal so this is truly a 100% custom deck.
Also, if it doesn't cost any different, PLEASE make this deck traditionally cut for two reasons:
•First, I love the way traditionally cut cards feel and farro.
•Second, it would fit this deck perfectly since you cut all of these cards by hand.
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Hey Ncyclopedia,
Thanks for the compliment on the other thread!
I can't wait to get some of your Curator and the new Birds Deck! They are gorgeous, extremely creative and the technical skill of hand-cutting everything is crazy. I couldn't imagine trimming out all of the complex shapes you have on every card.
Do you plan on selling the original 2 foot cards? I'm asking because I think you could have a great art exhibition with the complete deck. Also, if you do fund the Curator Deck on Kickstarter I think people would be thrilled if one of the high dollar pledges was for some decks of cards AND one of the one-of-a-kind 2 foot originals! Those would sell like hotcakes. It could be a first-come basis on which card a pledge gets, a person could pledge for an original, e-mail you with their Top 5 list in order of preference and find out which original they get through on ongoing Kickstarter update (XXX gets the Ace of Hearts, XXXX gets the 2 of Spades.....).
No matter what you do, it's cool seeing a new card each week.
thanks, Randy
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I'm in a bit of a rush since I'm at work, but I was alerted to this reseller's website since someone is selling my cards in Russia:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://blogs.mail.ru/mail/rabota100/793F3D2CB934C3E.html&ei=s7MyT8jsE5CutwfGkfSMBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://blogs.mail.ru/mail/rabota100/793F3D2CB934C3E.html%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26tbo%3Dd (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://blogs.mail.ru/mail/rabota100/793F3D2CB934C3E.html&ei=s7MyT8jsE5CutwfGkfSMBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://blogs.mail.ru/mail/rabota100/793F3D2CB934C3E.html%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26tbo%3Dd)
Original link:
Http://blogs.mail.ru/mail/rabota100/793F3D2CB934C3E.html
I registered the entire deck last year with the Copyright Office at the Library of Congress, but I was wondering what you guys think I should do next (too much going on at work right now and I haven't had time to dig deeper into the site
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Wow, this is really scary. You should report this to the copyright agency and address this issue.
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If I'm right, the copyright agency will not track the people down, only confirm that you own the copyright. You'll have to get a lawyer to write a C&D (cease and desist), I think. Even then, you probably won't be able to recoup the legal fees without a court battle.
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What the hell! Thats not right at all. I really hope that you can get them for this.
And please don't tell me thats the back design you were going to use....
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If I'm right, the copyright agency will not track the people down, only confirm that you own the copyright. You'll have to get a lawyer to write a C&D (cease and desist), I think. Even then, you probably won't be able to recoup the legal fees without a court battle.
Is it really that hard to prove even if the deck is copyrighted? I didn't think so. Maybe the fact that he lives in Russia makes it harder tho.
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when i click on the link it says record cannot be found
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Yeah I think the fact that it is in Russia is the biggest obstacle. Hopefully you can get that sorted out. I don't really have any solid advice since I have no experience in the legality of copyright and copyright infringement.
@MagicAddictz- no, this is the back design http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=574805947258&set=a.536975824128.2046845.14700468&type=3&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=574805947258&set=a.536975824128.2046845.14700468&type=3&theater)
EDIT: It seems the page got deleted. They might have realized you found out about them and stopped (hopefully that was the case). Although I would still investigate just to be sure.
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Ok good. The back design that they used is ugly!
And just by the pics they posted, they printed them with crappy quality.
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So my friend got in touch with the reseller. The reseller bought 2 decks from a marketplace in Ufa, a Russian city. No information beyond that is known since the box has no other markings on it. I will look into it.
The biggest clue though is that the deck has the title "Трансформационная колода OMEGALPHA,"
which translates to "transformation deck Omegalpha." Omegalpha is my handle on DeviantART, and so the images must've been stolen from there.
Also, whoever the manufacturer is, they jumped to print them as soon as I posted the final court card in late December, not knowing that I would upload a back design a few days later.
If you guys see this omegalpha deck posted anywhere else online, please let me know.
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That is terrible. However, I would love to have a deck of these...obviously from the creator.
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Hmm... it might be possible for DA to check for Russian IP addresses accessing your page between those 2 dates. I'd ask an admin there if its possible.
Maybe watermark your commercial stuff? I never would have considered it before but it may be worth doing.
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Hmm... it might be possible for DA to check for Russian IP addresses accessing your page between those 2 dates. I'd ask an admin there if its possible.
Maybe watermark your commercial stuff? I never would have considered it before but it may be worth doing.
Yeah, I'll see if DA can look into IP addresses. A friend of mine is an IP lawyer so I'll ask her about it.
I've thought about adding watermarks before, but unfortunately artwork is infringed/stolen all the time despite watermarks or other measures. I knew there was a risk of this happening.
What's funny is that the deck is being marketed under one of my screen names and I was credited as the artist since the reseller had my name.
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I was able to save images of the counterfeit deck before the reseller took the page down.
Again, if you happen to see this fake deck anywhere else, please let me know immediately. My email is emjose@gmail.com
Also, what's pictured is NOT going to be the real back design or the tuck case.
I'm currently in the process of asking the reseller questions about when and how he got the deck.
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From the bottom of my heart, I hope this gets resolved.
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From the bottom of my heart, I hope this gets resolved.
Thank you very much Nathan.
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You know you have a good looking deck when someone else tries to sell it...
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You know you have a good looking deck when someone else tries to sell it...
Haha, very well said!!!! Actually, I don't think this is a good looking deck. I think it is the BEST LOOKING and MOST PERSONALIZED deck released in 2012.
@Ncyclopedia - I had heard you say you would probably release it on Kickstarter by this summer. Any updates on that?
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You know you have a good looking deck when someone else tries to sell it...
Haha, very well said!!!! Actually, I don't think this is a good looking deck. I think it is the BEST LOOKING and MOST PERSONALIZED deck released in 2012.
@Ncyclopedia - I had heard you say you would probably release it on Kickstarter by this summer. Any updates on that?
Thank you guys :) Right now my efforts are in trying to get a gallery show/exhibition for the deck. Friends have told me that I need to have a show before funding as a means of getting exposure and publicity, so that's my priority right now.
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That is hugely crappy to see your work get ripped off, and done so poorly. Can't imagine how that feels. Sure hope you can prevent any further sales.
You have an amazing piece of art there, but probably not too many people beyond these boards know about it. Spread the word, get social, do all that stuff and when you are ready for the Kickstarter or whatever you'll have people lined up to get them.
Your art and cards is fantastic, truly wonderful. Even though it's not my style, and not something I'd want to do in my own decks, I am horribly, crushingly envious of your work.
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Some pathetic people out there. I hope you get this resolved.
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You know you have a good looking deck when someone else tries to sell it...
Haha, very well said!!!! Actually, I don't think this is a good looking deck. I think it is the BEST LOOKING and MOST PERSONALIZED deck released in 2012.
@Ncyclopedia - I had heard you say you would probably release it on Kickstarter by this summer. Any updates on that?
Thank you guys :) Right now my efforts are in trying to get a gallery show/exhibition for the deck. Friends have told me that I need to have a show before funding as a means of getting exposure and publicity, so that's my priority right now.
I really hope that you can get a gallery show lined up!! As much as I want people to find out about this deck and hopefully back it, I'm more excited that they get to just enjoy the art. I first started out following your project for the art and finding out it may soon become a deck was just a big plus! I'm really excited for you and for those that get to enjoy the product of your hard work and talent.
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this is a video showing all the card in the deck here the link .. tell me what you think .. i really like the 2 of clubs very intersting and alot of other card but the 2 of clubs really caught my attention
http://animoto.com/play/o0MJuexSHlzENyOPSK1fSg
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That video is great, really shows off the artistry. I chatted briefly with Emmanuel last night and might give him a little hand in getting some things together to make this real. His deck has huge potential to be made real, and helping that happen would make me a happy guy. Stuff that good deserves it. Just think of how fantastic the uncut sheet of this deck would be! I think Tendril will look pretty sweet, but Curator would put it to shame. :)
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That video is great, really shows off the artistry.
I completely agree. The video perfectly shows off the cards and the technique used to create them. I'm working on a video for mine and hope it comes close to the classiness of the Curator and Tendril videos.
When I saw the new Spectrum deck I thought the colors looked nice but that video they put together just turned me right off of it. The video looks like it was made on old Amiga back in the 80's! Although, I think part of the reason they're doing so well on Kickstarter is partly due to the addition of a video.
I'm surprised that most playing card projects on Kickstarter only have an image as their hero piece. A good example is Sean Whelan's Galvanic Deck. Maya is a great program and could be used to make some very cool animated flourishes, fans, shuffles...in a short amount of time! It would be a great selling tool and could even be the decks trailer after the Kickstarter project is finished up. I think it's a real missed opportunity.
Sorry, I meant to comment on the Curator video and ended up commenting on quite a few other decks!
Hope it's not too off topic.
thanks, Randy
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The first time I saw that video it blew my mind! It really does a great job of showcasing both the deck and the artists skills. I remember talking with Emmanuel and it was obvious his passion for art. It was really incredible! I was telling him how amazing this deck would look and I have to agree with xmetal the uncut sheet would be amazing!!
This is one project that is truly inspiring to me as another artist!
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Wow, that video is amazing!
Even though I do not collect uncut sheets, I would most likely put up the money to get one of these, it is the perfect art piece. I am sure the deck itself will be wonderful as well.
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An uncut of this deck would be fantastic, but the large sized individual handcuts would make great art prints. I have a long hallway that these would look just perfect in. :-* If Emmanuel ever wonders what to do with the individual handcuts, I'll be happy to take them, frame them, and display them to the best of my advantage!! ;D
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@Ncyclopedia - I took a look at your blog and was wondering:
How come you have 2 different ace of spades and other spades while not all of the designs for other cards are completed?
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@Ncyclopedia - I took a look at your blog and was wondering:
How come you have 2 different ace of spades and other spades while not all of the designs for other cards are completed?
He's started a second deck. One he finished last year and one he has started this year but he is still working on it, week by week.
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And how far are you planning on going with this second deck?
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And how far are you planning on going with this second deck?
I think he plans on finishing it. I don't know for sure if he plans on printing it. When I first talked to Nyclopdia and invited him to the Discourse he hadn't thought about printing the deck in mass. So I'm guessing that is his goal for now and this is just another art project :) But don't take my word for it ;) I'm sure he'll pop in and clear this up haha
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And how far are you planning on going with this second deck?
I'm going to complete the second deck. I'd like to make a new deck every year, but I don't know yet what I'm doing next year.
As for the Curator Deck, I've begun framing the cards for shows I booked in local venues:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/7-Frames1.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/7-Frames3.jpg)
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Beautifull!!
I can't believe you even rounded the corners on every card. Between that and all the grunt work of trimming out all the letters and numbers you must've been thrilled to get to the actual meat of each card design!
thanks, Randy
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That looks incredible!! The frames look good. Hope the shows go well :)
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Those look gorgeous in frames, just lovely. I want one. :)
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Wow! Where are you going to have expos? I would love to go to one!
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Gorgeous! I really love it.
Where exactly would you be having these shows?
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Those look awesome! Is the deck still going to be printed?
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They look amazing framed! Good luck with the show and I can't wait to see the deck printed.
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Thank you so much everyone!
Gorgeous! I really love it.
Where exactly would you be having these shows?
The cards will be displayed in local cafés, bars, and restaurants in Raleigh, NC.
They'll be displayed May, June, July, and August, but I'm working on getting more bookings and trying to get attention from art galleries.
Those look awesome! Is the deck still going to be printed?
Yes, I still plan on getting the deck printed. Hopefully, the upcoming shows will bring more exposure for funding.
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Thank you so much everyone!
Gorgeous! I really love it.
Where exactly would you be having these shows?
The cards will be displayed in local cafés, bars, and restaurants in Raleigh, NC.
They'll be displayed May, June, July, and August, but I'm working on getting more bookings and trying to get attention from art galleries.
Those look awesome! Is the deck still going to be printed?
Yes, I still plan on getting the deck printed. Hopefully, the upcoming shows will bring more exposure for funding.
They do look awesome. Now you're going to make me want to take a trip to visit my mom (near Winston-Salem) just to make a side trip to see your gallery shows!
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Thank you so much everyone!
Gorgeous! I really love it.
Where exactly would you be having these shows?
The cards will be displayed in local cafés, bars, and restaurants in Raleigh, NC.
They'll be displayed May, June, July, and August, but I'm working on getting more bookings and trying to get attention from art galleries.
Those look awesome! Is the deck still going to be printed?
Yes, I still plan on getting the deck printed. Hopefully, the upcoming shows will bring more exposure for funding.
This deck is so awesome that even if you were to print with USPCC with all the best quality, I think it would get funded by the AC alone! Can't wait for it!
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The first show for the deck started this past Friday, and here are some photos from the setup and opening:
(this is a poster print, not an actual uncut sheet)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/bshow01.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/bshow02.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/bshow03.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/bshow06.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/bshow05.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/bshow07.jpg)
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beautiful! congrats! :)
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That artwork looks amazing, I'd be happy to hang any of those prints on my wall. Please get this deck printed, I'm sure you'll have no problem getting it funded.
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Now that would be an uncut worth $250
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I think no uncut should ever cost that much no matter what. I don't care how much effort went into designing a deck; if you can have the deck itself for a few dollars, there's no reason you should pay a design premium on the uncut for the same art.
That said, I do want a Curator uncut pretty badly. :P
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Pardon my ignorance, but how much will it cost to produce a deck like the Curator with USPCC?
Does having a different face on every card add to the cost of development from USPCC side? (I am assuming that there will be additional cost on the printing plates development)
Just curious...
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Pardon my ignorance, but how much will it cost to produce a deck like the Curator with USPCC?
Does having a different face on every card add to the cost of development from USPCC side? (I am assuming that there will be additional cost on the printing plates development)
Just curious...
USPC charges a hefty premium for custom faces. Unless you're going for a big print run, the cost per deck shoots up, meaning the designer either takes a smaller profit margin or sells the deck at a higher price.
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A story on my playing cards was published in the local paper today!
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/Newsprint.jpg)
Full article and photo gallery: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/09/2122653/card.html (http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/09/2122653/card.html)
For anyone curious, the deck is getting closer to reality, and I'm excited to cut out the design I have in mind for the tuckbox!
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That's awesome man! Congrats,
It seems like that's a pretty big step for you. I am excited to hear that the deck is getting closer to being printed!
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Yet another feather in your cap, bro! I'm very happy for your success.
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I saw that post on facebook. Congrats! You're deck and work truly deserves such attention. Can't wait!
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What an incredible deck! Congratulations for the originality! Hoping to get my hands in one of these decks.
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(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/AOSCurator.jpg)
Hi Everyone,
Over the last several months I've been quiet with updates, but it's time to announce that the Curator deck is going to be released by House of Playing Cards this Black Friday!
The run will be limited, and the price falls within the range of other HOPC decks. The tuck case is minimalistic and maintains the red, black, and white color scheme of the cards. More specific details and official deck photos will be posted this coming week, so please follow or subscribe to HOPC:
http://houseofplayingcards.com/ (http://houseofplayingcards.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/houseofplayingcards (https://www.facebook.com/houseofplayingcards)
I know Black Friday will have no shortage of deck releases, but I'm excited to present my deck and hopefully my art will find a good home in your hands :)
For anyone not familiar with my work, here's a video of the Curator deck and my website:
Video (http://animoto.com/play/o0MJuexSHlzENyOPSK1fSg)
http://emmanueljose.com (http://emmanueljose.com)
- Emmanuel
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Finally - I've been keeping that secret for months! :))
Congratulations on finally seeing your dreams come to fruition.
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This deck looks absolutely fabulous. It's amazing the amount of creativity you put into this deck. I'll be sure to pick one up if I can. Say, are uncuts going to be available?
Now, when you say the price will range such as other HOPC decks, can you be more specific because all HOPC deck range from $5-$10
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This deck looks absolutely fabulous. It's amazing the amount of creativity you put into this deck. I'll be sure to pick one up if I can. Say, are uncuts going to be available?
Now, when you say the price will range such as other HOPC decks, can you be more specific because all HOPC deck range from $5-$10
If he could have been more specific, he would have been, I'm sure. Relax, bro - it's less than six days away!
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Finally - I've been keeping that secret for months! :))
Congratulations on finally seeing your dreams come to fruition.
I know what you mean Don.
Emmanuel lives close to me, on the day I met him at one of his art showings he was talking with the guys from Blue Crown . He asked me not to mention anything back then.
By the way if any of you have a chance to see the actual cut out cards I suggest you do it, the 2 foot cut outs are really something to see and the dimension added by the layered paper is really neat.
Definitely will be picking up a few of these.
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Oh that AoS looks very familiar!
I have seen someone using this as his/her icon (might be from UC forum..??)
I was going to ask the person where did he get this spades from, it LOOKS SO GOOD!
I like the AoS! Very nice!
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Oh that AoS looks very familiar!
I have seen someone using this as his/her icon (might be from UC forum..??)
I was going to ask the person where did he get this spades from, it LOOKS SO GOOD!
I like the AoS! Very nice!
At one point Emmanuel was using it for his own icon. Then he changed to the AoS from the second deck he's working on, "Clipped Wings" (I got the honor of naming it!). He change to his "e spade" more recently - while not as exciting, it does give him a more professional image and identity. Branding and logos from a company standpoint are important, and up 'til that point, he was changing his "logo" with each deck he worked on. Call the new "e spade" his version of the Nike swoosh or McDonald's golden arches.
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Finally - I've been keeping that secret for months! :))
Congratulations on finally seeing your dreams come to fruition.
I know what you mean Don.
Emmanuel lives close to me, on the day I met him at one of his art showings he was talking with the guys from Blue Crown . He asked me not to mention anything back then.
By the way if any of you have a chance to see the actual cut out cards I suggest you do it, the 2 foot cut outs are really something to see and the dimension added by the layered paper is really neat.
Definitely will be picking up a few of these.
Thank you everyone! Jeffrey, thank you so much again for coming to my art show, that meant a lot and it was great hanging out with you. We definitely need to hang out again!
Oh that AoS looks very familiar!
I have seen someone using this as his/her icon (might be from UC forum..??)
I was going to ask the person where did he get this spades from, it LOOKS SO GOOD!
I like the AoS! Very nice!
At one point Emmanuel was using it for his own icon. Then he changed to the AoS from the second deck he's working on, "Clipped Wings" (I got the honor of naming it!). He change to his "e spade" more recently - while not as exciting, it does give him a more professional image and identity. Branding and logos from a company standpoint are important, and up 'til that point, he was changing his "logo" with each deck he worked on. Call the new "e spade" his version of the Nike swoosh or McDonald's golden arches.
Don, it took forever to come up with a logo, but it was well worth it! I had pages filled with my "EJ" initials, and it was by accident that I drew the tilted "J" next to one of my spade drawings. I saw the similarities and the "eJ" became a spade.
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Don, it took forever to come up with a logo, but it was well worth! I had pages filled with my "EJ" initials, and it was by accident that I drew the tilted "J" next to one of my spade drawings. I saw the similarities and the "eJ" became a spade.
Y'know, I never actually saw the "J" until you pointed it out! I see it now!
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For anyone who may not know, the Curator uncut sheets are available! Photos will be posted later but here's a link to them:
http://houseofplayingcards.com/playing-cards/uncut-sheets.html (http://houseofplayingcards.com/playing-cards/uncut-sheets.html)
More importantly, I just want to thank everyone who has supported my art and my decks. It was amazing to hear from you all over the course of the release, and I can't wait for my art to be in your hands :)
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Dead thread resurrected...I'm sure most who are looking for it have seen it by now, but I don't want anybody to miss out so posting under appropriate thread. The Curator uncut is now available (early) as an addon to the Clipped Wings KS project! Thanks again Emmanuel (I also think the way you did it as a reprint v2 is totally fair and should make everybody happy - I know I am!)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/emmanueljose/clipped-wings-playing-card-deck-uspcc-printed (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/emmanueljose/clipped-wings-playing-card-deck-uspcc-printed)
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EcNate, please feel free to revive any old topic when you have new information to add.
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Thank you, Nate :)