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Title: { This and That } -- Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: CBJ on November 04, 2011, 01:25:22 AM
I was looking for a competitor to Kickstarter due to the fact you have to be American to launch a project, and I came across this...

http://www.indiegogo.com/Olympus-Bicycle-Deck

(http://www.indiegogo.com/media/primary_picture/104975/full/799984.jpg?1313247261)

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/262925_2258344254618_1128721892_32741987_954172_n.jpg)

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/254725_2258345374646_1128721892_32741988_7558510_n.jpg)

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198740_2258346134665_1128721892_32741989_1526238_n.jpg)

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205830_2258346934685_1128721892_32741990_5972874_n.jpg)

The artist's name is Chris Bennett.  I sent him a FB message to see if he's still trying to bring this deck to life.
He obviously needs to put pledge rewards, etc.

I'll let you guys know what I find out.

On a side note.. for anyone who wants to have a kickstarter-type project but you don't live in the States, this is an option for you

CBJ
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on November 04, 2011, 01:48:43 AM
...Looks like a lot of ripping off going on~
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: xela on November 04, 2011, 02:58:23 AM
Wow that's strangely similar to Si Scott's Ace of Spades design for the Smoke & Mirrors decks.

Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: phantom1412 on November 04, 2011, 04:41:53 AM
I remember I saw him posted many decks idea on E facebook page.
He has a lot good idea though.
But this funding is a give away $100, right?
It's hard to have people give away that much money to stangers.
I'd better donate to help my country that are facing the big flood, right now.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: Kanped on November 04, 2011, 06:04:21 AM
Yeah, indiegogo.  I had heard of them before; James Rolfe is using it to fund the Angry Video Game Nerd Movie.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: loldudex2 on November 04, 2011, 07:02:51 AM
I'm glad this guy is still trying to produce these cards, but I liked his other deck idea better.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: Evan on November 04, 2011, 03:17:28 PM
He posted all of these on the Ellusionist Facebook page and I remember, the owners of the page showing us where he copied the images from... they weren't original artwork
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: xela on November 04, 2011, 03:21:25 PM
Guys, the pointy-round thing behind the middle-circle is the Dan & Dave Ace of Spades design. I'm not sure about the other images, but that one alone is enough for me to question why this guy would make these cards. We all know the Smoke & Mirror designs, and it's so blatantly copied that it would take some real hard evidence (we're talking layered .psd files, timestamps, and some well-woven story) to gain any credence back.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: Evan on November 04, 2011, 03:22:48 PM
Guys, the pointy-round thing behind the middle-circle is the Dan & Dave Ace of Spades design. I'm not sure about the other images, but that one alone is enough for me to question why this guy would make these cards. We all know the Smoke & Mirror designs, and it's so blatantly copied that it would take some real hard evidence (we're talking layered .psd files, timestamps, and some well-woven story) to gain any credence back.
Like I mentioned above, he did not use original artwork
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on November 04, 2011, 04:07:00 PM
Quote
The impact these cards will have on the magic community is colossus, having already done some market research and shown the design, i have had enormous positive feedback from magicians and cardistry experts alike.
Quoted from indiegogo http://www.indiegogo.com/Olympus-Bicycle-Deck (http://www.indiegogo.com/Olympus-Bicycle-Deck)

  Absolutely insulting when he calls himself a graphic design student, using cliche clipart as well as downright theft on a design he calls his. From the layout it seems he knows little to none about design principles and from his methods, little to none about the playing card market at all. If his funding reaches $100 then I have to let Professor Farnsworth do the talking. Hopefully the community is smarter than that.

  Also, colossus is a noun. If you're asking for money, at least proofread your description.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: vmagic on November 04, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
I'm confused, i'm not sure where you guys are seeing any ace of spades for this deck as there isn't a picture of it here nor is there one on his kickstarter type page.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: CBJ on November 04, 2011, 09:46:12 PM
They are peeking out over the circle in the middle of the cards
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: KPopFever605 on November 06, 2011, 08:35:52 PM
I might back him if he puts up rewards, I just need to see the tuck case.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: KPopFever605 on November 06, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
:O ( word count)
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: Evan on November 06, 2011, 08:43:57 PM
no one is getting this deck?
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: Kanped on November 06, 2011, 08:51:23 PM
You don't get anything for pledging.  It's not like other projects where you buy your decks in advance to start making them; he's just hoping people will like it enough to give him money to get it made.  A similar amount of effort was put into the 'celebrity dead of 1997' deck.  I won't be asking people to fund that one, however.  This deck is a definite pass.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: Evan on November 06, 2011, 08:52:49 PM
Oh I didn't realize that.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: loldudex2 on November 06, 2011, 09:09:53 PM
Although he stole images, I liked his first deck 100x more, with the Pegasus and columns.




Also, this is the 4,000th post in "Playing Card Plethora" and my 500th post.  :D
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: Evan on November 06, 2011, 09:11:21 PM
Although he stole images, I liked his first deck 100x more, with the Pegasus and columns.




Also, this is the 4,000th post in "Playing Card Plethora" and my 500th post.  :D
That one wasn't original artwork either.

And congrats!
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: loldudex2 on November 06, 2011, 09:12:45 PM
That one wasn't original artwork either.

Which sucks, because I was almost positive he said he hand drew them.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: Evan on November 06, 2011, 09:20:48 PM
Which sucks, because I was almost positive he said he hand drew them.
I think he may have hand drawn them but he copied the drawing
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: loldudex2 on November 06, 2011, 09:31:02 PM
That makes sense, but when he said "I hand drew everything, except the Greek text in the background", it led me to believe he drew everything from his mind.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: Evan on November 06, 2011, 09:32:44 PM
That makes sense, but when he said "I hand drew everything, except the Greek text in the background", it led me to believe he drew everything from his mind.
Lol, definitely not. If it was his drawing, that would be an awesome deck
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: loldudex2 on November 06, 2011, 09:34:28 PM
Lol, definitely not. If it was his drawing, that would be an awesome deck

That's why I was so excited for it.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on November 06, 2011, 09:37:19 PM
Although he stole images, I liked his first deck 100x more, with the Pegasus and columns.

  Which one is that?
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: loldudex2 on November 06, 2011, 09:41:42 PM
  Which one is that?

Here it is http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2251348959740&set=o.61472466160&type=1&theater
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: sinsandman on November 07, 2011, 12:39:12 AM
Are you guys kidding me? I remember this guy clearly from E's FB...not a single image is original. Not the helmets, not the ace poking out, and on his other deck the pegasus is ripped off. PLEASE SOMEONE SUE THIS FUCK SO HE GOES AWAY!!!! I cannot stand this anymore. There are so many crap decks coming out and this guy wants to take other people's images and profit from them? D&D wake up and put this kid down!!!
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on November 07, 2011, 12:48:08 AM
Are you guys kidding me? I remember this guy clearly from E's FB...not a single image is original. Not the helmets, not the ace poking out, and on his other deck the pegasus is ripped off. PLEASE SOMEONE SUE THIS FUCK SO HE GOES AWAY!!!! I cannot stand this anymore. There are so many crap decks coming out and this guy wants to take other people's images and profit from them? D&D wake up and put this kid down!!!

  His funding page has a comments section~ should help you vent.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: John B. on November 07, 2011, 12:54:30 AM
man you need to calm down. let someone who can do something know.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: sinsandman on November 07, 2011, 12:58:59 AM
I actually am calm lol. I'm just saying...this guy got slammed and flamed all over E's page. You would think he would have learned.? Either way, this deck won't get funded. He is just straight asking people for money like a beggar. "Please give me money so I can profit off of no effort of my own" lmao
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: loldudex2 on November 07, 2011, 03:58:41 PM
I actually am calm lol. I'm just saying...this guy got slammed and flamed all over E's page. You would think he would have learned.? Either way, this deck won't get funded. He is just straight asking people for money like a beggar. "Please give me money so I can profit off of no effort of my own" lmao

I must of missed the time where he always got slammed, because from my memory, everyone was praising him for these "awesome" cards, including me. If you look at the comments on his pictures they are generally positive. Maybe I just remember things wrong though.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: sinsandman on November 07, 2011, 04:09:17 PM
Ellusionist themselves were warning this guy against the path he was on...and now here he is. If you have professionals giving you advise on the inner workings and legal systems of the industry, who are you to spit in their face? Know what I mean?
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: loldudex2 on November 07, 2011, 04:21:16 PM
Ellusionist themselves were warning this guy against the path he was on...and now here he is. If you have professionals giving you advise on the inner workings and legal systems of the industry, who are you to spit in their face? Know what I mean?

Oh, ok. I just found out where the original controversy started.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2249926044168&set=o.61472466160&type=1&permPage=1

And the criticism gets worse from there on.
Title: Re: Bicycle Olympus ??
Post by: sinsandman on November 07, 2011, 04:35:10 PM
Yes...that is actually not the beginning. Before that design, he offered the Spartan helmet design and some other stuff that was complete rip-off. I think it actually all started with the S&M ace and him using that. He was saying it was just for reference and he wasn't using it and all....but there it be right in the deck he is trying to produce.