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MDCasino · « **on:** March 21, 2012, 09:17:11 PM »

Hey Guys. Wanted to know what you thought of the early concepts. Ive been playing around in ps and want to know what you think. Mostly just been working on the court cards to find a color scheme I liked.

Light Blue Theme

Kept the details sharp on just some parts on this concept. I like the way these came out.

Just A standard color swap but I like the gradient instead of a single color. Obviously only one way cards but i dont see how it would be a problem.

Perhaps a deck with the long lost 5th "eagle" suit. Look it up =)

thanks for looking and lmk what you think

Aaron · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2012, 09:23:23 PM »

Those are all very nice designs

My favorites are the Queen and the Kind, the second 2 cards I think you should change a bit, idk what it is about them but they seem kinda messy to me.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2012, 09:35:26 PM »

I think the first and last ones are the best looking. Good luck!

Evan · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2012, 09:38:26 PM »

They look pretty good! I like the first queen and second queen the best but most of us prefer custom court cards. Try creating custom ones and post em' here.

MDCasino · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:19:47 PM »

I know

I wish I could draw custom ones. I like those the best too. Thats why my favorite decks are the artifice and the sentinels but unfortunatly I cant draw and dont know how to use illustrator or corel. Im only good at photoshop lol

Thanks for the feedback everyone

loldudex2 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:26:08 PM »

I really like these court cards, but I don't believe that you should make a new "pip". That eagle looks sweet, but I think that if you do decide to produce these, you will leave gamblers (a nice sized market) out.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:58:14 PM »

I don't think custom court cards are necessary. I think recolored nicely enough may be just fine!

ReaganM · « **Reply #7 on:** March 22, 2012, 04:57:02 PM »

I like the second ones but the rest are kinda plain in my opinion.

Kanped · « **Reply #8 on:** March 22, 2012, 07:56:08 PM »

IMO, it all just looks really 'photoshop'. It's all standard tools and I don't think you've used them in a really creative way. I think you need to be more creative with them to get any interest; recoloured decks from a new designer aren't going to go down well. The second pics are more interesting but they're messy and again, they look like standard photoshop stuff.

MDCasino · « **Reply #9 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:12:58 PM »

Hey Everyone. Thanks for all of your feedback. Tell me what you think of something like this instead...

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #10 on:** March 23, 2012, 06:09:50 PM »

Wow. That is simple yet elegant. With a captivating back design, that would be great! Are you planning on having those as the 4 suits, or are those just some possibilities?
PS: For the black cards, the indexes are still black, and for the hearts, they are still red. So, for the diamond, I think they should also be red.

Evan · « **Reply #11 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:12:26 PM »

I like it but the idea of recolored court cards and having a different color scheme for each suit was used in the Mana deck.
Don't get me wrong, it looks great!

Don Boyer · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2012, 04:28:14 AM »

You mentioned you lack drawing talents but like using Photoshop. Have you considered using photographic elements to create a wholly unique deck? You can completely run with them in Photoshop and give them a non-photographic appearance, or you could just use the photographic images, but either way, there's a lot of potential fun you could have with card designs, the court cards in particular.

I recommend that while you can color court cards 'til the cows come home, you should leave the suit colors alone. Especially if you only change one suit, leaving it as a three-color deck.

The eagle suit - ditch that as well. It would become a hindrance, unless you're absolutely set on creating new suits. A better idea would be incorporating the "new suit" ideas with existing suits - like an eagle inside of an spade or a heart or something. The Bicycle Alchemy 1977 deck did that very well, with just simple tweaks to the suit pips - unique while still being recognizable.

MDCasino · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:21:10 PM »

Quote from: MagicAddictz on March 23, 2012, 11:12:26 PM

I like it but the idea of recolored court cards and having a different color scheme for each suit was used in the Mana deck.
Don't get me wrong, it looks great!

crap :/

I just looked for them online and seen them. Its funny because I ordered them from someone but I havnt really seen the faces yet. Theyre not too similiar though. I would still consider mine unique.

MDCasino · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:24:38 PM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on March 24, 2012, 04:28:14 AM

You mentioned you lack drawing talents but like using Photoshop. Have you considered using photographic elements to create a wholly unique deck? You can completely run with them in Photoshop and give them a non-photographic appearance, or you could just use the photographic images, but either way, there's a lot of potential fun you could have with card designs, the court cards in particular.

I recommend that while you can color court cards 'til the cows come home, you should leave the suit colors alone. Especially if you only change one suit, leaving it as a three-color deck.

The eagle suit - ditch that as well. It would become a hindrance, unless you're absolutely set on creating new suits. A better idea would be incorporating the "new suit" ideas with existing suits - like an eagle inside of an spade or a heart or something. The Bicycle Alchemy 1977 deck did that very well, with just simple tweaks to the suit pips - unique while still being recognizable.

Thats not a bad idea. I wouldent really know where to start though.

Yea the eagle suit was just a quick mock up. I dont actually have plans to make a deck unless I really know what the heck im going to do with it.

also an opinionated question. Would I be shunned to consider purchasing art to use on my deck? I seen these on iStockPhoto and thought they were pretty boss. Unfortunatly a licence to resell products unsing them would cost $125.

MDCasino · « **Reply #15 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:29:56 PM »

sorry for so many posts :/

If I were to make a deck like this I think I would want to call them Bicycle Elite cards. I would sell them cheap (~$5). I think decks that use custom art deserve the $8-$10 price range.

I love this font I purchased a while back and would love to use it somehow.

Evan · « **Reply #16 on:** March 24, 2012, 10:38:16 PM »

If that isn't your artwork, I won't buy it. I like to see original artwork on a custom deck. I must admit, it does look pretty awesome though!

Don Boyer · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2012, 01:10:35 AM »

I'd consider teaming up with the artist who created the cool pips and see if he or she is interested in a collaboration.

Photographic elements... Imagine a few friends posing in outfits to become your court cards. You tweak the images, give them a more graphic/drawn look, or if they really look cool, maybe just go with them and give them a cool background. Find a theme for the outfits - you can go traditional, or you can pick a time period that strikes your fancy. For the spot cards, perhaps you could make the first photographic transformation-style deck! Picture scene found in life or that you can pose on a set that evoke pip images/placements, and overlay the actual pips on the card images.

Or if you just want to use your own talents, create a more abstract design, in the same way that a Staunton chess set doesn't look like queens, kings, bishops, etc., but we recognize them as such. I even have a few decks where people went the faceless route - Bicycle Clot and Bicycle Bearbrick. I don't recommend imitating someone else - but there's no shortage of directions you could choose to go.

Choose your path, and get going! If you don't start, you'll never finish.

MDCasino · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2012, 01:18:29 AM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on March 25, 2012, 01:10:35 AM

I'd consider teaming up with the artist who created the cool pips and see if he or she is interested in a collaboration.

Photographic elements... Imagine a few friends posing in outfits to become your court cards. You tweak the images, give them a more graphic/drawn look, or if they really look cool, maybe just go with them and give them a cool background. Find a theme for the outfits - you can go traditional, or you can pick a time period that strikes your fancy. For the spot cards, perhaps you could make the first photographic transformation-style deck! Picture scene found in life or that you can pose on a set that evoke pip images/placements, and overlay the actual pips on the card images.

Or if you just want to use your own talents, create a more abstract design, in the same way that a Staunton chess set doesn't look like queens, kings, bishops, etc., but we recognize them as such. I even have a few decks where people went the faceless route - Bicycle Clot and Bicycle Bearbrick. I don't recommend imitating someone else - but there's no shortage of directions you could choose to go.

Choose your path, and get going! If you don't start, you'll never finish.

It seems you know alot about ps as well.

I might consider something like that down the line. Have to get some inspiration and find some willing friends to dress up.

About the pips like I said it would be 125 for a resell licence so I would be allowed to use them and I would give credit.

I took some shots at a card back. Just a first draft. Let me know what you guys think.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2012, 01:33:14 AM »

If you put "Elite" in opposing corners, that first design would look slick! The other two just look busy for the sake of being busy.

I wasn't talking about simply licensing the pips - I was talking about contacting the artist who made them and seeing if they'd be interested in a team-up to create a deck together. Worst thing that could happen is they say no.