Thank you, I was already confused when I read that they both print in Taiwan. Also some decks, like the CARC classic twins or the Zen decks are listed on both companies websites.

If they are significantly cheaper than the previous LUXX releases, I will really stock up on those decks. might be my next favorite borderless deck after the LUXX palme decks and the ellusionist republic 2

I like the the fact that you are putting out high quality borderless custom decks! I waited long for those and the designs are among my favorites together with he palme decks. can't wait to have them in my hands.

Sorry I should have been more  specific. I meant if there is any difference between a new bicycle rider back from the shelf and a new standard tally ho deck? I the finishes and stock should be the same now?

Hi guys, I have a question I couldn't solve the last years.
For me the best decks I have handled were the old Ohio made Tally ho cards. I also tried the new ones, after they switched the faculty to Erlanger, but the quality was horrible. The stock was soft, had no crimp recovery and they were useless after short usage. I still have used Ohio decks that fan better than some new Erlanger decks. I know that they have overcome their first quality control issues, but I still can't believe that the new tally ho decks are exactly as good or better than the old ones? I didn't had a chance to get a recent tally ho deck - has somebody maybe a source where I can buy for sure a recently made tally ho deck? And I really hope that they changed the stock, because the ones I handled from Erlanger were awful. can anybody with more knowledge give me some info on the tally ho quality development and maybe some feedback on the recent ones?
thank you guys

Thank you Don for your tips. And sorry it was never my intention to highjack a thread. I just wanted to mention it since this is not a sales thread.

Thank you Hankman.
Sent you a PM

Hi guys, I'm thinning out my collection, because I need money for new cards. I'm seeing some sealed decks I already have or no longer collect.


The shipping is very reasonable with DHL.
I'm shipping from Germany, so I can also offer cheaper shipping for bigger lots within Europe. If you are interested in more decks, pm me and I will get a shipping quote.


If you decide to take all decks, I offer you upto 20% discount on the decks.

If you are also interested in some opened rare decks, this is what I have:

one Massa deck in good condition
one Dan and Dave S&M V2 Smoke deck in perfect condition (not used, only taken out of the box to have a look)
and one Dan and Dave S&M V3 Mirror deck in perfect condition (not used, only taken out of the box to have a look)

the following decks are for sale:

deck available quantity, price per deck (or set if indicated)

ellusionist   

red artifice   x2, 45$
artifice 2ed blue   x1, 7$
artifice 2ed green   x1, 7$
master red   x1, 8$
Madison Hustlers orange   x1, 19$

theory11   

Monarchs blue   x1, 8$


dan and dave   

Smoke and mirrors v5   x1, 18$
Smoke and mirrors v6   x1, 15$

conjuring arts   

bee erdnase cambric smith back, blue   x1, 8$
exquisit red   x1, 24$
exquisit blue   x2, 14$
red acorn back air cushion finish    x1, 14$
red acorn back ivory finish    x1, 14$

other   

aristocrat blue   x1  5.5$
aristocrat red   x1  5.5$
vegas club aristocrat, red   x1, 10$
white lions B red   x2, 12$
uusi bohemia      x1, 20$
bee miracle blue   x1, 14$
Dr. Leon, yellow   x1, 10$
anglo rugback (white/gold & black/white)   x2, 10$
nautic white   x1, 7$
nautic pink   x1, 7$
big gun red   x1, 5,5$
big gun blue   x1, 5,5$
Noc White   x2, 12$
Pr1me blue   x1, 12$
Phoenix deck, limited edition, green    x1, 10$
LUXX palme red    x2, 13,50$
LUXX palme blue    x2, 13,50$

red wynn deck, standard index    x1,35$

OHIO printed blue seal aladdin 1001, red,    x1, 20$
OHIO printed blue seal aladdin 1001, blue,     x1, 20$
OHIO printed Tally Ho blue seal, circle back,     x5, 15$


contact me if you are interested and i will get a shipping quote. have a nice day

oh that sounds great. I the standard shipping free worldwide? I'm located in Germany, so not that far away from the UK?

The special edition was the v2 version. how do they handle? I mean if they are open you could easily verify if they are real or not

All ended well in the end. the package was stuck for two months somewhere on the way 

will there be a brick deal? The decks are nice, but they are still on the pricey side. thanks