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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Bicycle 808 #9 Deck.
« on: October 26, 2015, 06:47:20 PM »
That's a very cool National Bicycle back, Max. I have never seen it, and I do also collect non-USPC bicycle card back designs (of course). That one must be very rare, indeed.

(Yes, Don, it is me, Joseph.)

Thank you Joseph! We will see it maybe one day in its colors on your website ;)

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Question re: Bicycle tuck boxes
« on: October 23, 2015, 12:16:16 PM »
On one visit to USPC when valuing their collection, Judy and I discovered a whole box of different and rather poor imitations of Bicycle decks which their patent and legal people had accumulated over the years. Lots of little companies, mainly in far off places, trying to cash in on the Bicycle brand name.

Can we deduce that the red Motor back apparently in this blue "Motor Bicycle" box is an antique replica?

http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks06/d04331/d04331box808.htm

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Bicycle 808 #9 Deck.
« on: October 23, 2015, 11:55:02 AM »
Wow! Nice back Cryptocard - Have seen the scroll but never the Bicycle. I want one!

Thank you Tom - I would really like to have one too! If you've also never seen this back in a Sample Book of the National Card Company like the one pictured below, this might mean that the back was published during a very short period. What do you think of that please?


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It is just fabulous Joseph! I love the display of your decks.. Do you know the name of the maufacturer?

The really old cabinets of high-quality manufacture were in some cases handmade.  They're not something you'll find easily, even when perusing antique shops - they're highly sought-after and tend to sell quickly and at high price.

It's not so much that I wanted to buy this cabinet but I was looking for other models by having the name of the manufacturer. When I saw his display, I really wanted to see other articles by this maker for the viewing pleasure, but if it's a unique handmade piece, sure, it will be difficult..

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Bicycle 808 #9 Deck.
« on: October 22, 2015, 08:36:46 PM »
There is also an other interesting back, known as "Bicycle" but made by the National Card Company in 1890 for the deck Apollo #33. Have you already seen this back or have you this deck in your collection? I think that it would be wonderful to see it in its color version. Attached below is the article with illustrations of the back in question.

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Do you think you can just post a last photo of your cabinet (like the n°2) with the two last shelves at the bottom please? I would really love to see the rest of the decks in your cabinet more closely if possible. Thank you Joseph

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It is just fabulous Joseph! I love the display of your decks.. Do you know the name of the maufacturer?

Many thanks for these photos ;)

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Question re: Bicycle tuck boxes
« on: October 22, 2015, 02:49:40 PM »
That is very interesting and I really like the special sealed box too!!

I am just curious about the box pictured below and the deck which it contains. Do you have more infos about it please ? Is it the only tuck box like that in existence?

Thank you

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Question re: Bicycle tuck boxes
« on: October 22, 2015, 03:48:20 AM »
If you want to know more information about Bicycle playing cards, I recommend you to visit the very interesting website of a Bicycle expert member:

http://www.cypressfilms.com/bicycle/

In addition, you can also visit this webpage:

http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks06/d04331/d04331box808.htm

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Guys, if you have more such images that are off-copyright, send them to Fes!  He's in charge of them for CARD CULTURE and we want to print some of them - perhaps even all of them.

I have other images and if you can print them, it would be really great!! I will post some of the images here but I will contact Fes to also send them to him.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / [Auction] Rare Playing Cards
« on: October 22, 2015, 03:00:34 AM »
I give you the link of an online Freeman's auction with extremely rare playing cards:

"Books, Maps and Manuscripts" - October 22, 2015, 10:00 AM EST

Auction page:

http://auctions.freemansauction.com/infinitebidding.asp?method=getUpcomingAuctions&tokenID=3008378&custno=&lang=en-us

eBay seller:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=freemansauction&item=221913657507&_osacat=0&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xplaying+cards.TRS0&_nkw=playing+cards&_sacat=0

In order to bid you must be registered on the Freeman's auction.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Antique Playing Card Price Lists
« on: October 20, 2015, 03:16:12 PM »
Other antique price lists recently found:

1878 - Victor Eugene Mauger
1878 - Continental Card Company
1878 - Seconds in Playing Cards
1890s - The United States Printing Company

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: [Gallery] Bicycle and USPCC advertisement
« on: October 20, 2015, 02:31:00 PM »
6: 1895 - Bicycle Card Backs
7: 1895 - Bicycle Sickle Cards
8: 1895 - USPCC Playing Cards
9: 1896 - Bicycle Playing Cards
10: 1902 - Special Bicycle Pack

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / [Gallery] Bicycle and USPCC advertisements
« on: October 20, 2015, 02:28:07 PM »
Here is a small collection of images collected in antique american newspapers:

1: 1890 - USPCC Playing Cards
2: 1893 - Bicycle Gold Medal
3: 1893 - Bicycle Hands
4: 1893 - Special Bicycle Pack
5: 1894 - Bicycle Card Backs

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: White Lions [Series A] Red
« on: October 19, 2015, 07:43:22 PM »
People made a big deal about the purple and UV blue decks for two reasons:

1. All David Blaine decks are very popular with card collectors.
2. They were exceptionally rare.  At the time they came out, print runs under 5,000 were practically unheard of.

These reasons are quite understandable, I completely agree with these and the exceptional rarity probably justifies their price. Nonetheless, the thing that really bothers me is to have simply put the rare and high quality "Rainbow Series" in the same boxes than the other red decks, much less expensive and more common!

At this high price, I think that it's a bit easy and they could have at least tried to create special boxes (like the limited box of the Skull and Bones deck by Conjuring Arts for example) with a different color, a unique design, or why not a special card on the back of the WL box to really differentiate them and increase the esthetic value, instead of just a dot, a marker signature or the mention "Limited 1st Edition Rainbow" on the bottom to avoid confusion. It is really because of that, that I think these versions are a bit far-fetched but otherwise, the idea or sales technique is good and if some collectors buy, it was worthwhile.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: White Lions [Series A] Red
« on: October 19, 2015, 12:39:29 PM »
Thank you very much both for your answers!! I completely missed these infos at the time of my purchase concerning the "Rainbow Series" and the transition for the printing.

I am really happy to have finally the Red edition because personally, I do not understand too much the interest to possess an almost blue deck or with minimal differences of colours for the back, apart perhaps, a really good buy with a bargain price:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N_nSY4QXrQ&feature=youtu.be&t=307

Instead, I think that a really purple version would have been much more interesting even if this goes against the principle of the "mid-print run from blue to red", as you said. But I guess that for some collectors or admirers of David Blaine and/or his work with the cards, it is necessary to respect it. However, to be quite honest, I consider more the "UV Blue" and "Purple" versions as semi-limited editions, or a business method for selling more and at the higher price while limiting the losses, in my opinion.

And I can understand the high price (https://phillymagic.com/shop/WhiteLionsSeriesARainbow) as these "rainbow" decks are apparently extremely rare but for this amount, I prefer to keep my money for other decks, for example, the Red Gatorbacks: a very nice metallic color for the back and a special card which replaces the blank card of the green model. Real modifications instead of minor details, but again, just my opinion.. :)

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Playing Card Plethora / White Lions [Series A] Red
« on: October 18, 2015, 12:15:52 PM »
Hi Everyone!

Please, I need to ask for your help concerning one deck in my collection. Some times ago, I bought a White Lions Series A Blue and a little later, I also wanted to have the White Lions Series A Red and I found a copy on eBay. But in fact there are apparently two different Series A "Red" versions issued with (exactly?) the same box. The first one would have the blue back and the second would be red. At the time of my purchase, I really wanted a White Lions Series A with the real red back so, my question is this: Do you know with these two pictures if my copy to the right is the real red version please?

Can you explain me the difference between these two decks? Especially why they put a deck with blue back in a red box? I really do not understand that!

Thank you in advance

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Bicycle Series 1800 V1 and V2
« on: October 16, 2015, 01:24:51 PM »
Version one was the original, manufactured in Cincinnati before the plant moved to Kentucky.

Version two came later - in addition to having the Performance Coating (misspelled, as you noticed!), all decks made in Kentucky also have the "legalese" fine print on the bottom of the box, including the copyright date and name of the manufacturer (always USPC) and copyright holder (which in this case is also USPC, because the Series 1800 is just a modified Rider Back).  Performance Coating is the original code name for Magic Finish - USPC's first Magic Finish deck was Ellusionist's Gold Arcane deck, a 5,000-deck limited run.  Ellusionist preferred the code name over the common name and continues to use it instead, though I have also seen them list it as "Performance Finish" on some decks, probably by accident.  I prefer the code name as well - what magician wants to pull out a deck with the word "Magic" printed on it?  Anyway, the coating was critical in making the deck easier to use - something about the aging effect on the original cards made them get very tacky and sticky after only a little use, requiring a dusting of fanning powder to get them to perform even just adequately.  And technically, Magic Finish/Performance Coating is a coating, not a finish - all the Series 1800 decks have the same embossing, "finish" in printing being defined as the paper's texture, not the layer of varnish or plastic coating it.

Version three appears identical in all ways to version two - EXCEPT that the marked decks all have standard black USPC sticker seals, not the weathered/aged-look red and blue stickers used on the version two decks.  Technically, because it's a magic deck and not a standard deck, what you call version three really is more of a new product than a version of the original.  The box bottom has the Ellusionist "firebird" logo they use for "Ellusionist Playing Card Co." but without the wording, a small barcode on the right and a copyright date of 2014.

Collectors might find version one more desirable for its rarity, as it is no longer in print.  People who use the cards, however, will prefer version two, as the Performance Coating makes the cards much more playable and easier to use.

I could not hope a better answer!! Thank you so much Don ;)

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Playing Card Plethora / Bicycle Series 1800 V1 and V2
« on: October 16, 2015, 09:33:21 AM »
I hope that I post in the right place. Sorry if the question was already solved but I tried to make a search on the forum and I have not found the answer. When I started my collection in 2011, I bought four Bicycle Series 1800 in two different shops and I received two different versions. With the pictures of boxes, you can see that the versions are completely different but I still don't know what are the real differences of these two versions. Now, I think that the V1 with the red Ace of Spades on the blue box and the barcode is less common but I am not sure. I just know that I bought the "Performace Coating" (with the error for the word performance) version a little later but long before the publication of the Marked V3 by Ellusionist. Do you have any information please?


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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Question re: Bicycle tuck boxes
« on: October 12, 2015, 06:38:38 PM »
Quick question I'm sure someone can answer for me.

When did Bicycle cards switch from older tuck box to newer tuck box? 

Anyone have a pictoral history of Bicycle tuck boxes?

Thanks for the help.

Boxes has changed according to the evolution of the United States Playing Card Company and their decks. The first Bicycle boxes were published in 1885, four years after the creation of the company in 1881. The Aces of Spades for the decks in these boxes read "Russell & Morgan Printing Co." For the next boxes, I tried to build a small board with the photos of boxes to illustrate this evolution. It is possible that there is some errors for dates but normally, it is close to reality.

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Thats awesome! I'm not sure if this deck is bee, but i found it somewhere and was wondering if anyone knows what it is.

It is not a Bee deck but the second back (Shield) of the Helmet #119 deck, pictured in the Hochman Encyclopedia p. 102. I have one copy in my collection, pictured below, with the other back (Helmet).

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Ask the Experts at 52 Plus Joker
« on: October 11, 2015, 01:16:11 PM »
Hi everybody!

I found recently a Dougherty pricelist dated 1869 and the decks numbered on this list are exactly the same as those of the L. I. Cohen pricelist in the Hochman Supplement & Price Guide p. 6. Do you know if there is an error concerning the manufacturer for one of the two list or if the decks or a part of the stock of Lewis Cohen were acquired by Andrew Dougherty at the time of his death?

Thank you,
Crypto

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Deck Reviews! / Re: [VID] David Blaine - Green Gatorbacks
« on: October 10, 2015, 04:44:31 AM »
Just finished uploading a deck review for the new David Blaine playing cards:  Metallic Green Gatorbacks.
http://youtu.be/-ofy_tqfWS0

Hi FrenchFryNecromancer ;)

I really love this deck and your review is great too!!! Thank you very much for that. I have just bought one green Gator and I'm really impatient to open it... And just one quick question please: est-ce que tu es français toi aussi ou c'est juste le pseudo?
Crypto

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Old playing cards photos
« on: October 09, 2015, 09:15:24 AM »
Here are five other antique photos which show antique playing cards made by the United States Playing Card Company.

1: Harry Houdini plays card game with an antique USPCC deck and card holdout.
2: A woman dressed with Russell & Morgan Printing Company playing cards.
3: Two Men play cards with one of the first Bicycle Rider back decks.
4: Four cowboys play cards with an antique Bicycle Acorn Back deck.
5: Charles Ainsworth play a solitaire game with a "Russell & Morgan Factories" deck.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Miniature card deck. No maker.
« on: October 05, 2015, 07:12:00 PM »
First of all, I want to thank all of you who responded to my posting of the Democracy Playing Cards.  The information provided was greatly appreciated.

Today I am posting a miniature deck found at a recent estate sale.  I can find no manufacturer's name.  Came with an extra joker card, so that may be a clue to it's approximate age.

Once again, I appreciate your valued comments.

Al

According to the Spade Ace and the Extra Joker, your deck seems to be the "Miniature" #197, another version of the "Peter Pan" Patience deck, issued with the same Joker but a "Peter Pan" back and box. It was made by the Western Printing & Lithographing Company and I think in the 1950s or 60s, by considering your "1 Pack" Tax Stamp and the design of the back. However the design of your Ace was used for other older decks (Hochman MSW131b p.149 - MSN74 p.161). The Dolly Madison deck pictured below also use it.

http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01752/d01752.htm

http://www.cypressfilms.com/Bicycle/USPC_Dates/USPC_Dating_Codes.html

http://dananddave.com/learn/articles/dating-playing-cards-from-1-pack-tax-stamp/

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