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Title: Foliage Playing Cards - Kickstarter Coming Soon
Post by: aceofclubsmagic on May 13, 2017, 04:25:18 PM
Hi everyone!
I'm excited to announce that the Foliage Playing Cards will be coming to Kickstarter very soon and I just wanted to get some feedback on the cards. You can preview the Kickstarter here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aceofclubs/1865988898?token=355c144d.


I'm also looking for a cardistry YouTuber based in the United States who would be willing to shoot a video for the campaign using a prototype deck.
Title: Re: Foliage Playing Cards - Kickstarter Coming Soon
Post by: Magic_Orthodoxy on May 14, 2017, 08:48:44 AM
The art work was done by Nick Vlow
Title: Re: Foliage Playing Cards - Kickstarter Coming Soon
Post by: Don Boyer on May 15, 2017, 05:58:18 AM
I have to agree with what Jackson Robinson stated on your project preview page.  The back design is solid but you should work on doing something a little more with the faces.  Perhaps tweak the pips a little - not radically, but in a way that suits the foliage theme while remaining true to the original suit designs.  Bump up the courts a little bit, perhaps - make their design more in line with the theme as well while still remaining true to the original.

It looks like you're trying to make this as a magician's deck, with minimal changes to the faces - and that's fine.  But in this market, it's a much harder sell to do limited-edition decks as magician's tools when they're just that: limited editions, in short supply, only to be made one time.  Imagine how few magic decks would continue to exist in the Bicycle Rider Back design if USPC announced they were only making one more print run of them and they'd never come back to the market again...

Simply put, a limited-edition deck is best targeted to an audience that eats up limited editions, and that's the collector audience.  They prefer just a few more bells and whistles in their designs.  It's been a long time since a minimally-custom deck was a big hit with collectors because there's been so many more fully-custom decks made in the past several years.

Of course, you could specifically market your deck to magicians, but I think you're really limiting yourself if you do.  There's a fair number of magicians out there, but unless you sell to quite a large number of them, you're less likely to succeed.  Jazz up the design just a little bit more and I think you'll have at least a modest hit on your hands.  The basic concept is solid, it just needs a little more to get it to be more popular.
Title: Re: Foliage Playing Cards - Kickstarter Coming Soon
Post by: aceofclubsmagic on May 15, 2017, 08:18:08 AM
Thank you for your input!
Title: Re: Foliage Playing Cards - Kickstarter Coming Soon
Post by: aceofclubsmagic on May 15, 2017, 10:28:50 AM
Would you prefer jokers or gaff cards?
Title: Re: Foliage Playing Cards - Kickstarter Coming Soon
Post by: Don Boyer on May 16, 2017, 05:30:42 AM
Would you prefer jokers or gaff cards?

You're printing with Legends PCC, and thus are limited to having 54 cards unless you pay significantly extra.  Considering what I said about how you should market the deck, unless you're specifically targeting magicians as your market, I'd say go with jokers over gaff cards.  Gaffs are only useful if the deck is to be used by magicians; most collectible decks are bound for a collector's storage box, drawer or display shelf, not a magician's supply of everyday equipment.

If you insist on going for the magic market, perhaps you should consider "splitting the difference" and making one joker and one gaff card of some kind, perhaps something simple and utilitarian like a blank facer or a double backer.
Title: Re: Foliage Playing Cards - Kickstarter Coming Soon
Post by: Adams001 on August 20, 2017, 06:42:12 AM
They are so special. Your project is good.