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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: Justin O. on October 20, 2015, 04:52:11 PM
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This seems worth sharing:
Signed Black Reserve Note Private Reserve on eBay for $1k, probably the most I have ever seen asked for a modern deck. I wasn't part of the original campaign, so I'm not privy to much info on the Private Reserves, were there really so few of them to command that high of an asking price?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unbranded-Federal-52-Black-Reserve-Note-Private-Reserve-by-Jackson-Robinson-/221914132056?hash=item33ab1cee58:g:f3UAAOSwhcJWHyJq
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This seems worth sharing:
Signed Black Reserve Note Private Reserve on eBay for $1k, probably the most I have ever seen asked for a modern deck. I wasn't part of the original campaign, so I'm not privy to much info on the Private Reserves, were there really so few of them to command that high of an asking price?
There was a 1,000 + overrun but from my understanding, there was a significant number that where damaged. They where $40 on the origanal KS project. For me, that was a hard trigger to pull then. I almost backed out several times. Glad I didn't. I don't think I could get $1,000 for mine, and I don't think this guy will either. But they are worth considerably more than $40.
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This seems worth sharing:
Signed Black Reserve Note Private Reserve on eBay for $1k, probably the most I have ever seen asked for a modern deck. I wasn't part of the original campaign, so I'm not privy to much info on the Private Reserves, were there really so few of them to command that high of an asking price?
There was a 1,000 + overrun but from my understanding, there was a significant number that where damaged. They where $40 on the origanal KS project. For me, that was a hard trigger to pull then. I almost backed out several times. Glad I didn't. I don't think I could get $1,000 for mine, and I don't think this guy will either. But they are worth considerably more than $40.
That is just for the Black Reserve Note though, correct? Those are numbered x/1000, these aren't numbered but are labeled 'Private reserve'? Is that not a different reward?
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Actually, as I recall it, the black, unbranded Reserve Note deck was scarce because USPC allows in its contracts a margin of error of +/-10% on the total, and this time it was deep into the minus end, barely more than 90% of what was ordered. Jackson barely had enough decks to meet the demand of the KS project.
As far as "Private Reserve," I'm really not certain - perhaps Jackson will chime in on it.
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This seems worth sharing:
Signed Black Reserve Note Private Reserve on eBay for $1k, probably the most I have ever seen asked for a modern deck. I wasn't part of the original campaign, so I'm not privy to much info on the Private Reserves, were there really so few of them to command that high of an asking price?
There was a 1,000 + overrun but from my understanding, there was a significant number that where damaged. They where $40 on the origanal KS project. For me, that was a hard trigger to pull then. I almost backed out several times. Glad I didn't. I don't think I could get $1,000 for mine, and I don't think this guy will either. But they are worth considerably more than $40.
That is just for the Black Reserve Note though, correct? Those are numbered x/1000, these aren't numbered but are labeled 'Private reserve'? Is that not a different reward?
I went and dug mine out. You are correct. I'm not sure about that one. It wasn't part of the KS campaign. I've got one that is numbered, and one with no cello- hand signed with a red gas mask seal.
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It's been relisted for $850.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221920097337?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221920097337?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Still a little high regardless if it's a "Private Reserve" or not. I understand decks in-crease in value, but that's an over kill for that deck.
He recently PM me and was willing to trade a sealed Microsoft Deck for this....
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He recently PM me and was willing to trade a sealed Microsoft Deck for this....
That's actually an interesting trade offer. I'll keep my opinions about it to myself, but it's interesting.
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He recently PM me and was willing to trade a sealed Microsoft Deck for this....
That's actually an interesting trade offer. I'll keep my opinions about it to myself, but it's interesting.
I would keep the Microsoft deck. While the Private Reserve may be very rare, it's still basicly a standard reserve note with a special sticker. Those do come up for sale from time to time. I've only seen the Microsoft deck come up for sale once or twice.
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It's been relisted for $850.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221920097337?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221920097337?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Still a little high regardless if it's a "Private Reserve" or not. I understand decks in-crease in value, but that's an over kill for that deck.
He recently PM me and was willing to trade a sealed Microsoft Deck for this....
dudes, good that I have made the headlines (always wanted to)
but shouldn't we keep some trade talks under some kind of gentlemen confidentiality?
EDIT: for confidialtity
don't think it's then quite fair to say that it's overkill for a deck when yourself has quoted such a price on most of your decks?
again price is quite subjective as some may argue as to why a scarlett JR legacy is going for $500? or the microsoft deck for that matter.
anyways, i think the topic is going out of line and even though i do respect your opinions on this matter shouldn't this forum or thread be around playing cards rather than sticking it to someone (who you assume is not part of the forum) who has 'outpriced' his deck?
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He recently PM me and was willing to trade a sealed Microsoft Deck for this....
That's actually an interesting trade offer. I'll keep my opinions about it to myself, but it's interesting.
I would keep the Microsoft deck. While the Private Reserve may be very rare, it's still basicly a standard reserve note with a special sticker. Those do come up for sale from time to time. I've only seen the Microsoft deck come up for sale once or twice.
While the Black Unbranded Reserve Note deck is in general the rarer of the two issues, having the shorter print run, the Blaine deck was never made available at retail sale and likely never will be. I also have a preference for the Blaine deck, I should add. Aside from after-market, the only way to get a Blaine Microsoft deck would be to have been a Microsoft intern attending the end-of-summer party in 2014 or to receive one as a gift from either the man himself or the man who made the decks for him.
They're a lot less likely to see much movement in the after-market because most of the people who obtained them either have no idea of or interest in their value and/or tore them open and started using them like any other ordinary deck of cards. As such, despite the larger print run, there are probably fewer intact boxes in new condition remaining than there would be of any of Jackson Robinson's decks and those that do remain aren't likely to hit the market any time soon, being either cherished heirlooms to a few or neglected and forgotten souvenirs to many who received them.
That, and even at $850, I think that Black URN deck's a little too overpriced! It is, as far as I can tell, a case where the Private Reserve are simply unserial-numbered decks, overage from the 1,000-deck numbered limited edition, that were set aside and specially labeled by Jackson himself. So as noted, they are still the same exact cards from the same exact print run.
anyways, i think the topic is going out of line and even though i do respect your opinions on this matter shouldn't this forum or thread be around playing cards rather than sticking it to someone (who you assume is not part of the forum) who has 'outpriced' his deck?
Ashe, no one is trying to "stick it to you" in any way. We're offering our opinions on the subject of the sale - and opinions are often worth the paper they aren't printed on. One person's trash is another's treasure, beauty (and value) is in the eye of the beholder, etc. The auction was an outlier, a modern deck being offered initially for a four-figure sum, and as such became the topic of much conversation - and understandably so.
In the end, it is indeed a private transaction between buyer and seller, but (until you revealed them) we were not privy to any of the private details of the deal. You really tipped your own hand here more than anyone else did, my friend!
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Don,
Thanks dude, sorry for that just emo! lol.
Neways just to be clear I'm putting the deck up high to attract attention to other decks I have on offer which are priced to sell (clearing).
Appreciate this topic closed moved out.
Thanks
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anyways, i think the topic is going out of line and even though i do respect your opinions on this matter shouldn't this forum or thread be around playing cards rather than sticking it to someone (who you assume is not part of the forum) who has 'outpriced' his deck?
I agree, an Ebay listing is probably a topic for Conversation Parlor. This doesn't really seem the place for it, but that's just my opinion. Regardless of who listed what on Ebay, I had no idea since I never looked, a conversation about price on rare decks is a good conversation to have once in a while. A signed Black Reserve Note Private Reserve deck is absolutely a rare deck.
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I agree, an Ebay listing is probably a topic for Conversation Parlor. This doesn't really seem the place for it, but that's just my opinion. Regardless of who listed what on Ebay, I had no idea since I never looked, a conversation about price on rare decks is a good conversation to have once in a while. A signed Black Reserve Note Private Reserve deck is absolutely a rare deck.
This would be the better place for such a discussion. Years from now, it will provide context for the deck's value and perception at this point in time and by this community when people search for information about it. As such, it has merit and belongs in a board where posts are counted towards one's total, indicating their contributions to the overall knowledge base. Conversation Parlor topics are not counted as such as they can be about any non-cards topic one chooses, though cards do occasionally fall into the mix.
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Don,
Thanks dude, sorry for that just emo! lol.
Neways just to be clear I'm putting the deck up high to attract attention to other decks I have on offer which are priced to sell (clearing).
Appreciate this topic closed moved out.
Thanks
I would agree that the trade talk probably should have been kept private, but your admission that you overpriced an item to bring more attention to your other sales does not set well with me. For that alone I would never buy an item from you. I'm not sure what your idea of "priced to sell" is, but all your items look overpriced to me.
As far as closing this topic- not going to happen. If you want to read censored material- go to the other forum. We don't do that here.
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anyways, i think the topic is going out of line and even though i do respect your opinions on this matter shouldn't this forum or thread be around playing cards rather than sticking it to someone
Hey Ashe, I definitely didn't mean to offend by my original post, and I hope that I haven't. But I thought this was a worth while post related to playing cards, and would spark an interesting conversation about rarity vs. value I was very interested in other peoples perspective on, and to address both my intent to post about the public online transaction and the board I chose to post to.
Just wanted to apologize toward you feeling like I had crossed a line.
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Don,
Thanks dude, sorry for that just emo! lol.
Neways just to be clear I'm putting the deck up high to attract attention to other decks I have on offer which are priced to sell (clearing).
Appreciate this topic closed moved out.
Thanks
I would agree that the trade talk probably should have been kept private, but your admission that you overpriced an item to bring more attention to your other sales does not set well with me. For that alone I would never buy an item from you. I'm not sure what your idea of "priced to sell" is, but all your items look overpriced to me.
As far as closing this topic- not going to happen. If you want to read censored material- go to the other forum. We don't do that here.
Rob, well said!
Personally, I do think anyone saying they overpriced an item to attract buyers is a low blow. I mean, I have listed items that I want a certain value for, and if they never sell due to that reason alone then that's something I can live with because I am in no hurry to sell any of my rare decks. Just put them out there for people to know it's available, most have options for offers...
Ashe,
I wasn't meaning to offend you by any means.
Gentlemen confidentiality... Does that even exist these days ???
I did want others to know that your deck was available for trade against a Microsoft deck that you previously inquired about. I'm sorry if you feel that our conversation should've been kept quite, but look at the discussion that became of it. I personally wouldn't feel any shame or anger if someone mention about a deck I was "willing" to sell or let go in a trade. Listing a disclosed price on the other hand would be my issue.
Sorry if I offended you by saying your price is or was an overkill.... But common, $1000.00 for a deck!!! Not sure if your intention was to attract buyers or make them laugh... :)
Until next time....
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Gentlemen confidentiality... Does that even exist these days ???
Sure it does - but not on a website that's accessible from any Internet-connected computer in the world. He posted the sale on eBay, not under a shady tree in the school yard! (And as a side note, your grammar and punctuation is atrocious!)
I would agree that the trade talk probably should have been kept private, but your admission that you overpriced an item to bring more attention to your other sales does not set well with me. For that alone I would never buy an item from you. I'm not sure what your idea of "priced to sell" is, but all your items look overpriced to me.
EBay is a free marketplace. He charged a price that even he considered high - but he would have been thrilled if someone had paid it, that's for certain. It attracted enough attention to start negotiations for trading for another rare deck, the Blaine Microsoft deck. I might consider it overpriced, you might consider it overpriced, but without a free marketplace with people asking for whatever prices they want or think they can get, exactly how is price determined? What sets the worth of the deck?
Someone else might think that's a bargain and be happy to pay it - and if so, more power to them. If enough people agree with us, though, the item goes unsold, the auction ends and the item may return at a lower price. Eventually, if this becomes a repeating pattern, the price goes down to a point that is reasonable for someone and it sells - unless we're talking about an item so valueless that it will never sell at any price.
I don't need to explain to you how a free marketplace works. Pricing strategies are nothing new, though they typically work in the other direction, like the loss leader - a supermarket that sells pumpkins at Halloween so cheaply, they're losing money on them, but they make up for it because the pumpkins get customers into the store and it's only the rare customer that only buys the pumpkins and not the other items in stock.
I worked for a fruit & vegetable stand in my teens whose owner lamented the pricing tactic - one nearby store was selling them for a penny a pound, far below the wholesale price he was paying to get them from farmers, so while the supermarket pumpkins attracted customers, his only attracted vermin while they rotted on the shelves. What he should have done instead was fight fire with fire - sell his for a penny per two pounds (or even for free!) for any customer spending a few bucks on something else he offered, like the apple cider, apples, potatoes, etc. His competitor was a larger supermarket, seemingly better able to afford the loss, but supermarkets tend to operate on very tight margins - my suggested tactic might have boosted his business enough to allow him to absorb the loss and attract customers away from the supermarket.
This pricing tactic is the opposite, but not entirely invalid. We're here talking up a storm about his sale - and who among us took the time to click through to his profile at eBay and look at his other offerings? If you did, his tactic succeeded, even more so if you actually bought something he was selling.
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(And as a side note, your grammar and punctuation is atrocious!)
Thank you,!...%*+^
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I thought I would offer up a little insight to the discussion.
The "Private Reserve" was separate from the Labeled 1000 decks
The Private Reserve, if memory serves was a very small run, in the hundreds.
Also, the Branded Black Reserve Note and the Unbranded do not have the same cards in them.........The Unbranded has the Black Backs, while the Branded has the same deck as the Reserve Note.
As for Value, I think we as individuals need to set that determination based on what we feel about a deck. Personally, the perceived value of a deck is the last thing I would look at when wanting to add something to my collection, and that means passing sometimes............ie, as a collector a JNugg should be in my collection, but I can't justify the price...........my opinion of course ;)
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Also, the Branded Black Reserve Note and the Unbranded do not have the same cards in them.........The Unbranded has the Black Backs, while the Branded has the same deck as the Reserve Note.
I never realized that the Branded and Unbranded decks were actually a different set of cards. Oh that I could go back in time and not have passed this project up. I was foolish, and new to playing cards...
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Also, the Branded Black Reserve Note and the Unbranded do not have the same cards in them.........The Unbranded has the Black Backs, while the Branded has the same deck as the Reserve Note.
I never realized that the Branded and Unbranded decks were actually a different set of cards. Oh that I could go back in time and not have passed this project up. I was foolish, and new to playing cards...
It's true what they say - hindsight is 20/20. Foresight is blind as an eyeless bat...you only hit something if you're lucky! :))
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Also, the Branded Black Reserve Note and the Unbranded do not have the same cards in them.........The Unbranded has the Black Backs, while the Branded has the same deck as the Reserve Note.
I never realized that the Branded and Unbranded decks were actually a different set of cards. Oh that I could go back in time and not have passed this project up. I was foolish, and new to playing cards...
I get a bit confused about these but I can say that I have #10 of 500 in the Private Reserve with a nice silver seal & Jackson's name signed. So definitely 500 for that one.
Then the branded Black Reserve Note I have says there were 1550 - with a similar seal.
The unnumbered Private Reserve, red seal, I have has the Black back [as mentioned above]
hope this helps with the numbers.
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Also, the Branded Black Reserve Note and the Unbranded do not have the same cards in them.........The Unbranded has the Black Backs, while the Branded has the same deck as the Reserve Note.
I never realized that the Branded and Unbranded decks were actually a different set of cards. Oh that I could go back in time and not have passed this project up. I was foolish, and new to playing cards...
I get a bit confused about these but I can say that I have #10 of 500 in the Private Reserve with a nice silver seal & Jackson's name signed. So definitely 500 for that one.
Then the branded Black Reserve Note I have says there were 1550 - with a similar seal.
The unnumbered Private Reserve, red seal, I have has the Black back [as mentioned above]
hope this helps with the numbers.
It's possible he was allowed to make a very short run on the black-backed cards because they share the same face with the "regular" Reserve Note decks. I've heard of USPC giving discounts in similar cases, so the thought of them allowing a short run on a deck sharing the same face as another, in essence making it a part of the same print run (at least for the faces), wouldn't be out of the question. It still doesn't tell us, though, precisely how many Private Reserve decks exist in the Reserve Note print run, but it's not the first time someone had to determine the value of a deck without knowing the actual size of the print run. Many producers rarely release the print run numbers, intentionally.
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It was only yesterday that I realized that the Black Reserve Note decks I received were kinda different. Been a while since I got them so I was a bit curious about the price, so I did a search. Imagine my surprise when I found out that the decks I have didn't have the number printed on the hologram like in the pictures that I saw. For example, 1xxx/1550 or 3xx/1000. All mine has is Jackson's hologram with signature printed on, with the Black Reserve Note words on it and a hand written number. I received my decks as rewards for pledging during the kickstarter campaign. Does anyone has these?
Thank you,
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Just for clarity's sake, I'm posting the photos here since photos at eBay have a tendency to disappear after a number of weeks after the auction/sale. It's now selling with a "Buy It Now" of $850 and a "Make Offer" option. Still sounds high to me.
Yin, do your decks look EXACTLY like this, A LITTLE like this or NOT AT ALL like this?
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Just for clarity's sake, I'm posting the photos here since photos at eBay have a tendency to disappear after a number of weeks after the auction/sale. It's now selling with a "Buy It Now" of $850 and a "Make Offer" option. Still sounds high to me.
Yin, do your decks look EXACTLY like this, A LITTLE like this or NOT AT ALL like this?
Hi Don,
My decks looks the same with the exception of Jackson's signature at the bottom of the deck and instead of the words Private Reserve, it has Black Reserve Note on it. And on the hologram above JAckson's printed signature, is a handwritten number....
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Does anyone know the quantity of these decks?
I would gauge my price for these under the assumption there were less than 100 but more than 50, as part of a campaign that was widely available, compare that to his Tally-Ho releases, a purely limited deck project, making this akin to the Legacy wooden box edition of his Tally-Ho series, with potential for being less limited than they, which are selling for $400-$500 and in light of the average resale price of the standard Black Reserve note at around $250 I think a fair price for this deck would be aroun $400.
What do you guys think?
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Does anyone know the quantity of these decks?
I would gauge my price for these under the assumption there were less than 100 but more than 50, as part of a campaign that was widely available, compare that to his Tally-Ho releases, a purely limited deck project, making this akin to the Legacy wooden box edition of his Tally-Ho series, with potential for being less limited than they, which are selling for $400-$500 and in light of the average resale price of the standard Black Reserve note at around $250 I think a fair price for this deck would be aroun $400.
What do you guys think?
All I know is that the unbranded Black Reserve Note deck was shorted at press, below what was expected. For more information, someone should get in touch with Jackson himself and ask him to weigh in here. It's not like we can't reach the guy - he's on this forum! He likely won't comment on the after-market value, but he can certainly help clear up the issue with these different versions of this one deck.
Yin: if you would post photos of your version of the deck, that would be appreciated - it would give us a very clear idea of what you're describing.
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Hi Don,
This is the deck that I received.
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Hi Don,
This is the deck that I received.
It would appear that this is a third variation of the release. Only Jackson would have the straight dope on the details behind these decks.
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Hi Don,
This is the deck that I received.
Here is my take on both this deck and also the deck that is for sale on ebay for $850.
When I made the "Private Reserve" decks I did so with the specific intention to give them only to a select few of people that were considered friends or my family. I don't feel good about charging my mother for any of the work I do.
I put the "Private Reserve" seal on a total of about 15 decks.
When I gave these decks to a select few of people I did so under as a gesture of friendship and also did so with free of charge. I know every single person who I gave these decks to and also which decks I gave to which people. I also made it clear to these people that these were gifts and not to be resold or let go of. If they wanted to let go of them I asked them just to send them back to me.
The deck that is on ebay or any other "Private Reserve" deck that is on the market in my view is worthless and a fraud. I only feel bad for anyone who had to pay a big price tag to get these as who ever the seller was (and I know who the original seller(s) are) sold them out dishonesty to me and obviously against our friendship.
Yin, unfortunately your deck has been altered even passed the point at which I passed out the private reserve decks. That is not my handwriting and I would have for sure composed the placement of my numbering a little better than to just stick the number off centered in the middle of a huge empty space. (That is just my design snob talking)
As for the deck that is on ebay for $850 was $1000 I think you should go back to the person who sold it to you and ask for your money back as the deck you have is a fraud in the eyes of the creator, and unfortunately I hope no one purchases that deck.
I have learned alot of hard lessons while being a card designer, I have also learned who to trust and also who is a scoundrel as well, as this world called the playing card world is very very small.
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Hi Don,
This is the deck that I received.
Here is my take on both this deck and also the deck that is for sale on ebay for $850.
When I made the "Private Reserve" decks I did so with the specific intention to give them only to a select few of people that were considered friends or my family. I don't feel good about charging my mother for any of the work I do.
I put the "Private Reserve" seal on a total of about 15 decks.
When I gave these decks to a select few of people I did so under as a gesture of friendship and also did so with free of charge. I know every single person who I gave these decks to and also which decks I gave to which people. I also made it clear to these people that these were gifts and not to be resold or let go of. If they wanted to let go of them I asked them just to send them back to me.
The deck that is on ebay or any other "Private Reserve" deck that is on the market in my view is worthless and a fraud. I only feel bad for anyone who had to pay a big price tag to get these as who ever the seller was (and I know who the original seller(s) are) sold them out dishonesty to me and obviously against our friendship.
Yin, unfortunately your deck has been altered even passed the point at which I passed out the private reserve decks. That is not my handwriting and I would have for sure composed the placement of my numbering a little better than to just stick the number off centered in the middle of a huge empty space. (That is just my design snob talking)
As for the deck that is on ebay for $850 was $1000 I think you should go back to the person who sold it to you and ask for your money back as the deck you have is a fraud in the eyes of the creator, and unfortunately I hope no one purchases that deck.
I have learned alot of hard lessons while being a card designer, I have also learned who to trust and also who is a scoundrel as well, as this world called the playing card world is very very small.
Hi Jackson,
Thanks for clearing it up somehow, but I received the two decks from you directly (one numbered 12 and the other 24), with the rest of my kickstarter rewards. I have no idea what to think now. Are these fakes? :(
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Hi Don,
This is the deck that I received.
Here is my take on both this deck and also the deck that is for sale on ebay for $850.
When I made the "Private Reserve" decks I did so with the specific intention to give them only to a select few of people that were considered friends or my family. I don't feel good about charging my mother for any of the work I do.
I put the "Private Reserve" seal on a total of about 15 decks.
When I gave these decks to a select few of people I did so under as a gesture of friendship and also did so with free of charge. I know every single person who I gave these decks to and also which decks I gave to which people. I also made it clear to these people that these were gifts and not to be resold or let go of. If they wanted to let go of them I asked them just to send them back to me.
The deck that is on ebay or any other "Private Reserve" deck that is on the market in my view is worthless and a fraud. I only feel bad for anyone who had to pay a big price tag to get these as who ever the seller was (and I know who the original seller(s) are) sold them out dishonesty to me and obviously against our friendship.
Yin, unfortunately your deck has been altered even passed the point at which I passed out the private reserve decks. That is not my handwriting and I would have for sure composed the placement of my numbering a little better than to just stick the number off centered in the middle of a huge empty space. (That is just my design snob talking)
As for the deck that is on ebay for $850 was $1000 I think you should go back to the person who sold it to you and ask for your money back as the deck you have is a fraud in the eyes of the creator, and unfortunately I hope no one purchases that deck.
I have learned alot of hard lessons while being a card designer, I have also learned who to trust and also who is a scoundrel as well, as this world called the playing card world is very very small.
Hi Jackson,
Thanks for clearing it up somehow, but I received the two decks from you directly (one numbered 12 and the other 24), with the rest of my kickstarter rewards. I have no idea what to think now. Are these fakes? :(
interesting indeed. If you say that you received them from me directly from I would more than happy to send you a pair that I numbered by myself. You're welcome to send me an email (again ;)) and we can work out shipping.
If you pledge for 1 unbranded reserve during the Kickstarter there were a few that were damaged that had seals on them, that I had number to replace the damaged ones. This could be where you got them. If that is the case again send them back and I can send you ones that are numbered by me.
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Hi Don,
This is the deck that I received.
Here is my take on both this deck and also the deck that is for sale on ebay for $850.
When I made the "Private Reserve" decks I did so with the specific intention to give them only to a select few of people that were considered friends or my family. I don't feel good about charging my mother for any of the work I do.
I put the "Private Reserve" seal on a total of about 15 decks.
When I gave these decks to a select few of people I did so under as a gesture of friendship and also did so with free of charge. I know every single person who I gave these decks to and also which decks I gave to which people. I also made it clear to these people that these were gifts and not to be resold or let go of. If they wanted to let go of them I asked them just to send them back to me.
The deck that is on ebay or any other "Private Reserve" deck that is on the market in my view is worthless and a fraud. I only feel bad for anyone who had to pay a big price tag to get these as who ever the seller was (and I know who the original seller(s) are) sold them out dishonesty to me and obviously against our friendship.
Yin, unfortunately your deck has been altered even passed the point at which I passed out the private reserve decks. That is not my handwriting and I would have for sure composed the placement of my numbering a little better than to just stick the number off centered in the middle of a huge empty space. (That is just my design snob talking)
As for the deck that is on ebay for $850 was $1000 I think you should go back to the person who sold it to you and ask for your money back as the deck you have is a fraud in the eyes of the creator, and unfortunately I hope no one purchases that deck.
I have learned alot of hard lessons while being a card designer, I have also learned who to trust and also who is a scoundrel as well, as this world called the playing card world is very very small.
Hi Jackson,
Thanks for clearing it up somehow, but I received the two decks from you directly (one numbered 12 and the other 24), with the rest of my kickstarter rewards. I have no idea what to think now. Are these fakes? :(
interesting indeed. If you say that you received them from me directly from I would more than happy to send you a pair that I numbered by myself. You're welcome to send me an email (again ;)) and we can work out shipping.
If you pledge for 1 unbranded reserve during the Kickstarter there were a few that were damaged that had seals on them, that I had number to replace the damaged ones. This could be where you got them. If that is the case again send them back and I can send you ones that are numbered by me.
Yes, I received all the decks from the project with the Silver Certificates and Reserve Note. I pledged for the $75 R4 2 Limited Edition Black Reserve Note and added on the rest of the decks.
I would gladly send them to you in return for those numbered by you.
Should I send you an email via the Kings Wild email or are we able to correspond by PM here?
Thanks Jackson!
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nope don't pm me here, I never check my pms.
jackson@kingswildproject.com
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I want to thank Jackson for coming by and clearing this up for everyone. Knowing is half the battle, and it's better to get your knowledge from the source than from second- or third-hand sources.
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Hi Jackson,
about 1 year ago I bought this deck from c571121 on Ebay and now I don't know if it's true or false or what is it.
Can you help me?
Thanks Alberto
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Hi Jackson,
about 1 year ago I bought this deck from c571121 on Ebay and now I don't know if it's true or false or what is it.
Can you help me?
Thanks Alberto
Did you try emailing him, as he suggested in his last post in this topic?
I can say that the deck you have is almost certainly an authentic Black Reserve Note deck. Is it Private Reserve as well? Probably. What is it worth? According to Jackson, nothing, but your mileage may vary. It's a rare subset of a rare set of cards, but just in terms of the packaging - the contents are no different than any of the other Black Reserve Note decks. Add to that the fact that it was, if genuine, intended as a gift to the recipient from the creator and not meant to be sold publicly.
I have a personalized David Blaine Variety Box from the first series - not simply signed, but signed by him to me, with my name on the box. It's the only one of the 250 1st Series VBs to have this. He also gave me a personalized, autographed uncut sheet of the blue Split Spades Lions, which to this day isn't for sale anywhere and only obtained from him personally - it's cool because the cards are on the sheet in Mnemonica stack order. As collectibles, they're both one-of-a-kind items - but they're also things that I would never dream of selling, not in my lifetime. In the marketplace, they might even have a lower value for being autographed or personalized, despite being one-of-a-kind items, but since I'm not selling them, it doesn't really matter. At best, I'd gift them to a friend or relative, and then probably as part of my estate after I'm gone from this existence. David himself asked me not to sell them; he meant it as a gift to me, out of his kindness and generosity - so they'll never be sold.
That's my two cents.
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I've run into this before as well, where you do something as a favor or nice gesture and then see it appear on eBay for a profit. I've also seen people create "collectibles" out of combinations I never made, or put things in some random third-party box and call it a "special".
These kind of things are disappointing but also inevitable, so like Jackson I just mentally note these things as best I can and adjust my future generosity accordingly.
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I think to many people $$$ is important, but I don't understand why people will try to get profit over friendship and trust. That is something $$$ can't buy!! :-[
I was thankful that Paul signed a set of Tendril Nightfall and Ascendant when I requested for it on the survey. Although it is not personalised, I am proud to display it and show it to my friend when they come around. To me it means a lot ;)
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nope don't pm me here, I never check my pms.
jackson@kingswildproject.com
Hello Jackson,
I've sent you an email a few days ago. Just checking if it went to your spam folder :P
So I just resent the email.
Thanks!