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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => A Cellar of Fine Vintages => Topic started by: Joshua Robinson on January 01, 2012, 06:38:38 PM
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i would like to know how to, is there any differences? please post pictures if you find any and describe how
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i would like to know how to, is there any differences? please post pictures if you find any and describe how
Well there is no distinct answer since all forgeries are different. Some fakes are as bad as using a new seal and wrong ink colors, while some are as good as having a tax stamp and red-stripped cellophane.
I know legitimate Jerry's have a year under one of the sides, but this is last resort because you need to open your deck...and cut through your box with a knife.
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There was a post earlier with this link about the care and feeding of J-Nuggs:
http://hwcdn.net/u7n2x8t6/cds/JerrysNugget/jerrys_nugget_card_care_guide.pdf
Near the end of the PDF there's a list of little-known facts which includes a link to a YouTube video showing how you can tell the difference between the real deal and a forgery. And yes, if I recall, it does require "cutting" the deck, sort of - you have to open the tuck box where it's glued shut to see a clue hidden inside.
But these days, with the counterfeiters having access to the same Internet we do, don't be shocked if these features get replicated as well. Simple fact is, on handling, the forgeries can't hold a candle to the real deal.
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Well, if it's an opened deck, then usually the handling is going to be a big giveaway, unless you've somehow managed to pick up a fake Jerry's Nuggets deck with brilliant handling. But usually, I've heard that the fake ones are shocking to handle.
But there are a couple of clues on the outside of the box, too. The seal isn't like a modern USPCC seal; its sides look similar to that of a stamp, with semi-circles cut into it. And the little wrap-around tag that you use to open the seal is red; if it's clear or anything other than just plain red, then it's a fake. Also, the obvious things like the fact that Jerry's were only printed in red and blue.
And then there's something about there being a little code on the inside tab of the box, so you'd have to use a knife to slice it open to see.
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Judging from the fake decks I have.
The fake one will have a cellophane with gold line, while the real one has red line.
When opened, the fake will contain a 2 side blank card, and a one side blank card.
The real one will have only 52 cards and 2 jokers.
And it's easy to tell the difference by the handling of the decks.
The fake is even worse than the normal bicycle decks.
It can be fanned but can never be fanned-evenly.
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come to think of it, the real jerrys have one side air cushion and one side smooth( if i am not wrong). wouldn't it be cool if someone were to revive that so that we can all have a feel on how the jerrys would roughly feel. this would also deviate from the usual finish of playing cards. although i wonder what would be printed on the outside of the box.
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Sieg, I like the idea. Same goes for a lot of decks out there. If they have a special attribute that makes them desirable, why can't we just try to replicate it? We already know what makes jerrys special handling-wise, someone just needs to do it.
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I don't think they have the equipment to do it anymore. I would like to point out that forgeries often won't have the correct seal and that's the best thing to look for (I've seen some saying 'Cartimundi') but also remember that Jerry's Nugget is still an active casino and they still have their own decks. The modern ones are worthless but it should be easy to tell them from the real thing.
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Often the replicas will have double backers or blank cards and that is the biggest clue to them being fake.
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Sieg, I like the idea. Same goes for a lot of decks out there. If they have a special attribute that makes them desirable, why can't we just try to replicate it? We already know what makes jerrys special handling-wise, someone just needs to do it.
The processes simply don't exist anymore. The finish would probably violate current EPA regs and the hardware used is antique. Modern presses are more about speed and efficiency, which precludes some of the processes that went into making a Jerry's Nugget deck. We barely even see traditionally cut decks anymore unless it's either a Tally Ho or a special order.