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IAmTheChin · « **Reply #125 on:** January 26, 2012, 02:03:42 AM »

Kickstarter is a nightmare. Smart move.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #126 on:** January 26, 2012, 05:58:13 AM »

Quote from: brown_baggs on January 25, 2012, 01:24:32 PM

Yeah I guess that could be so. I'm just going off the fact that all of the decks I've seen on Kickstarter have been much cheaper than most retail decks. I'm sure for some decks that isn't true. It seems to be the case for the most part though.

While Kickstarter investments are usually cheaper than full retail, a deck made by a major player is often close enough in price, and you have both assurance it'll get made plus the backing that company's name has to offer. It would be different for a deck backed by a smaller player, like BMPokerWorld or (shudder) Merz67...

dmbaggs · « **Reply #127 on:** January 26, 2012, 03:53:17 PM »

Quote from: Good@Sabacc on January 26, 2012, 05:58:13 AM

Quote from: brown_baggs on January 25, 2012, 01:24:32 PM

Yeah I guess that could be so. I'm just going off the fact that all of the decks I've seen on Kickstarter have been much cheaper than most retail decks. I'm sure for some decks that isn't true. It seems to be the case for the most part though.

While Kickstarter investments are usually cheaper than full retail, a deck made by a major player is often close enough in price, and you have both assurance it'll get made plus the backing that company's name has to offer. It would be different for a deck backed by a smaller player, like BMPokerWorld or (shudder) Merz67...

I know the pros and cons. I'm just saying from my personal experience backing projects.

JMMJ · « **Reply #128 on:** January 30, 2012, 01:13:42 AM »

Please stay with the colored borders. I am really tired of card creators having to print white boarders just because us magicians complain about having to hide double lifts and reversed cards. It would cost you more in looks than it would give you in the "magic" area of the deck to abandon the silver or gold look that defines this deck.

And besides that, as long as a deck has borders that are the same color on both sides magicians can hide moves all they want so to the other magicians out there "STOP COMPLAINING"

I will also note that I am well late with this comment and thank you for preemptively acting upon it

Don Boyer · « **Reply #129 on:** January 30, 2012, 04:38:28 AM »

Quote from: JMMJ on January 30, 2012, 01:13:42 AM

Please stay with the colored borders. I am really tired of card creators having to print white boarders just because us magicians complain about having to hide double lifts and reversed cards. It would cost you more in looks than it would give you in the "magic" area of the deck to abandon the silver or gold look that defines this deck.

And besides that, as long as a deck has borders that are the same color on both sides magicians can hide moves all they want so to the other magicians out there "STOP COMPLAINING"

I will also note that I am well late with this comment and thank you for preemptively acting upon it

Wow - really late! He kept his colored borders, by making both sides with identical gold-and-silver colored borders. I think it was a rather ingenious idea, really.

He was aiming for the broadest possible audience, I think - pleasing magicians AND flourishers AND collectors. I believe this deck will do so admirably on all counts.

JMMJ · « **Reply #130 on:** January 30, 2012, 08:25:11 AM »

Quote from: Good@Sabacc on January 30, 2012, 04:38:28 AM

Quote from: JMMJ on January 30, 2012, 01:13:42 AM
Please stay with the colored borders. I am really tired of card creators having to print white boarders just because us magicians complain about having to hide double lifts and reversed cards. It would cost you more in looks than it would give you in the "magic" area of the deck to abandon the silver or gold look that defines this deck.

And besides that, as long as a deck has borders that are the same color on both sides magicians can hide moves all they want so to the other magicians out there "STOP COMPLAINING"

I will also note that I am well late with this comment and thank you for preemptively acting upon it

Wow - really late! He kept his colored borders, by making both sides with identical gold-and-silver colored borders. I think it was a rather ingenious idea, really.

He was aiming for the broadest possible audience, I think - pleasing magicians AND flourishers AND collectors. I believe this deck will do so admirably on all counts.

I agree, I was reading about page three and the boarder thing really bothers me so I just hit quick reply... Then I saw page four

Collector · « **Reply #131 on:** March 08, 2012, 04:32:06 PM »

Nice design in general. Is any sense to express critical thoughts against the background of total ecstasy?

Aaron · « **Reply #132 on:** March 08, 2012, 07:36:11 PM »

So Randy, What is the latest word on the deck? Is there an estimated release date?

Evan · « **Reply #133 on:** March 08, 2012, 08:57:26 PM »

I was going to ask what Aaron just did.... we haven't heard much about this deck lately and there has been nothing on your twitter and the site is not working.

RandyButterfield · « **Reply #134 on:** March 09, 2012, 12:56:39 AM »

It looks like it will be in a couple months. The designs are all done. I've started on the Midnight Cards website, a little bit. I'm mostly concentrating on an Animation / Trailer to help promote the launch. It's looking really cool so far! I'll post more images once I'm given the go-ahead.

thanks, Randy

Linguist_ · « **Reply #135 on:** March 09, 2012, 01:09:50 AM »

Glad this thread was revived after a month or so. I just sat and read through the whole thread for about 20 minutes and it was great to see the encouragement this deck has been given and how it has been developed and tweaked.

The deck is wonderful and I'll try to keep on top of its progress and pick up a few when they're ready!

phantom1412 · « **Reply #136 on:** March 09, 2012, 01:47:12 AM »

So will these be on kickstarter?

RandyButterfield · « **Reply #137 on:** March 09, 2012, 01:50:43 AM »

Quote from: phantom1412 on March 09, 2012, 01:47:12 AM

So will these be on kickstarter?

Nope. Not Kickstarter.

phantom1412 · « **Reply #138 on:** March 09, 2012, 02:01:50 AM »

Quote from: RandyButterfield on March 09, 2012, 01:50:43 AM

Quote from: phantom1412 on March 09, 2012, 01:47:12 AM
So will these be on kickstarter?

Nope. Not Kickstarter.

Then where?

Don Boyer · « **Reply #139 on:** March 09, 2012, 03:41:31 PM »

Quote from: phantom1412 on March 09, 2012, 02:01:50 AM

Quote from: RandyButterfield on March 09, 2012, 01:50:43 AM
Quote from: phantom1412 on March 09, 2012, 01:47:12 AM
So will these be on kickstarter?

Nope. Not Kickstarter.

Then where?

He's already mentioned that he has a backer interested, who shall remain nameless for the time being. He will not need to use Kickstarter to get his deck to market because it will be privately funded.

Evan · « **Reply #140 on:** March 09, 2012, 03:44:34 PM »

It sounds like they will be sold on their website but I'm not sure.

@Randy, given the go-ahead? You aren't running this?

Don Boyer · « **Reply #141 on:** March 10, 2012, 12:20:03 AM »

Quote from: MagicAddictz on March 09, 2012, 03:44:34 PM

It sounds like they will be sold on their website but I'm not sure.

@Randy, given the go-ahead? You aren't running this?

Whose website? The backer? If that's what you mean, then I'd say in all likelihood, yes. Randy may be carrying them as well on his own Midnight Playing Cards site when it goes live. It's not often that some individual/company funds a deck on their own only to let someone else sell it exclusively... It would be like T11 selling a T11 deck only on the D&D website and not their own; it doesn't happen.

CBJ · « **Reply #142 on:** March 26, 2012, 02:24:49 PM »

I must say...

I'm extremely disappointed that these will not be Bicycle branded.

Why did you change it???

CBJ

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #143 on:** March 26, 2012, 05:33:32 PM »

Wow. I have never seen this thread before today. Your skills are amazing. Good luck for the sale!

Aaron · « **Reply #144 on:** March 30, 2012, 01:19:14 AM »

Any word on a release date or any updates at all Randy? this is one of the decks I am lookign forward to the most in 2012.

RandyButterfield · « **Reply #145 on:** March 30, 2012, 01:37:35 AM »

Quote from: Aaron on March 30, 2012, 01:19:14 AM

Any word on a release date or any updates at all Randy? this is one of the decks I am lookign forward to the most in 2012.

Hi Aaron, it looks like they'll be released in June sometime.
Sorry about the dissapointment CBJ. I hope you'll like them without the Bicycle branding.
Thanks for the compliment Nathan! Now you see whay I haven't had much time too work on my other
2 Discourse Group cards. I've been pretty busy with my day job and an animation I'm making for the ORNATES.

Since these cards have all been seen before I don't see the harm to post a still frame from one of
the scenes. The black space at the top is for type to be added in later.

thanks, Randy

Aaron · « **Reply #146 on:** March 30, 2012, 01:39:56 AM »

Ahhhh, this deck is just so gorgeous! I can't wait until I can have one of these in my hands.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #147 on:** March 30, 2012, 11:00:22 AM »

I totally understand, Randy! Will you be selling uncuts?

RandyButterfield · « **Reply #148 on:** March 30, 2012, 11:24:03 AM »

Yes, there will be uncuts.

thanks, Randy

max · « **Reply #149 on:** April 13, 2012, 07:03:34 PM »

really disappointed about the Bicycle brand out! it is a pity, although the deck is nice....