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Thanks for your reference Marcus.  It helps in a few ways.  :)

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That is entirely up to them. 

Thanks

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Absolutely, not a problem Don. 

Loop Cuts is making a special PCA clip that is a two clip deal.  We are only giving one away in the PCA event with a UC deck inside of it.  Just one of the many giveaways.  Other than that, Loop Cuts main involvement is that I built it with Mike.  Me and Mike run it together as a joint venture. We may give away a few clips but that is TBD.  We are working with our main sponsor about a few very special prizes that are still under wraps for now. 

Hope That helps clear that up.

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@ loop cuts

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Over the next month or two, things were getting worse for me.  I spent my end of the profit, and was also selling some decks to make up for the financial crisis in the making. 

The way I see it... You never had a profit. What do you mean your end? It's not a profit until all your expenses are paid. You don't just take what you want.

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I pulled them in

Interesting usage of words.





It was an expression but I see how you make it a play on words.  And yes I know that I spent what was expected to be profits before I should have.  Big mistake.

Thanks

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Hey guys, lets have a sit down and talk about the truth behind me and my past.  CBJ is right about one thing, back then I was very messed up and unethical.  I'm sure those were never his words exactly but you get the gist. So here it goes....

Two years ago I was highly ambitious about the industry.  I spoke to great minds like Jason Brumbalow, Lace Miller, Dave Buck and so on.  Shared some of my concepts and some were loved while others were not.  I was so eager to make my mark that I put on my running shoes before reading the guide and my ethics were nonexistent.  It's not because I wanted to take what I could how I could... It's because I was usually in over my head and when I got into hot water, I tried to fix a problem by creating a new one.  I started with a YouTube channel called magicians work shop.  It was small but I was reviewing cards in a different way. This gained the attention of a few people and BMPoker was one of them.  He sponsored me and sent me tons of decks to review.  I suddenly had so much more to do than I had expect and was really happy.  Lance was helping me with branding at the time and also teaching me on how to build on something great.  With my ambition though, I was it evolving in my head and had to take the steps to see it do so.  I then created Modern Manipulator and that was meant to be the next step for me.  I had great things going for me and I had finally established a sponsored relationship with Ellusionist, which is very hard to do!  I was sent the Red artifice decks way before they were released and had an exclusive interview about them.  As I set up the launch of MM I was ready to sell our very first e-mag.  After launch though I realized that I was doing something wrong... We sold none of the mags and I was lost... Confused and irritated. I closed MM thinking I could do better, figure it out and get back to the basics. 

So as you see, I was already making HUGE mistakes.  I had broken a sponsorship with BMPoker, closed two of my projects, creating doubt in the community that anything I was going to do would last.  I didn't even see what I was doing was doing more harm than good.  Lets speed up the clock a little to a time frame more recognized by many of you....

Conjuring Creations... My come back Idea.  A bamboo card clip that was actually pretty cool.  My ability to create and design a project had evolved.  My concept for marketing had improved and I was getting a better grip on how to manage my own thoughts.  I managed to raise enough money, ON THIS SITE NO DOUBT, to bring about the first prototypes of the ECO CARD CLIP.  This was beyond exciting and I charged a very low price to get people interested.  HUGE MISTAKE.  I didn't realize I was undercutting my self and would damage the entire production and delivery process because of it.  I was short on money due to not having enough left over for shipping.  I was in full panic mode and I could see the success down the road waiting on me.  I sent what I could out then quickly pulled in Encarded as my first client.  I figured with profits from that venture that I could make the money, ship everything out and all would be right with the world. 

(SEE IT?<--- That is my big unethical mistake... that I repeated over and over because I panicked, because I didn't take the time to research and perfect things.)

Next was 4PM Designs.  I pulled them in as my second client before the Encarded clips were even done.  The wood shop was overwhelmed by the demand and was kinda lost in a mix of Happy and worried. I know now that I should have perfected the production process, asked the shop the right questions...like... "what would happen if damaged clips came in?  What time frame would an order of this size take to complete.?"  I didn't even quote any of the clients a time frame.  Looking back... I'm ashamed of it all.  I had created a perfectly amazing product that was doomed from day one because I was the one that created it.

Over time the timelines were becoming more and more unclear as to when they would be finished and each client was stressed as well.  Communication broke down because at one point 4PM Designs was ready to cancel the order but I explained that a refund wasn't possible due to all of the money being invested in production.  I told the shop that they were ready to pull out.  In confusion, Encarded was told by the shop that I was considering canceling an order and Encarded was ready to flip out...  Why in the world was that going on?  And it was a break down and mix up between to clients information. 

Over the next month or two, things were getting worse for me.  I spent my end of the profit, and was also selling some decks to make up for the financial crisis in the making. 

PIVOTAL MOMENT:  I sold a huge lot of decks to a buyer and also sold a single deck to another.  I manged to ship them to the wrong addresses.  I panicked in a huge way.  I contacted the person that was receiving the huge order to inform them of the mistake and told them I would pay for the return shipping if they could please help me fix it.  After many messages back and forth, they claim it never arrived.  The person that spent hundreds of dollars on there order was furious.  I was now on the line for lips, for the sold decks and I was in a lot of trouble.  This is when people started talking EVERYWHERE.  I went into hiding..............

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All was silent and I created the FB Alias Lee Zero....WHY?  Mainly because I couldn't stop... My brain is a bunch of gears in motion, always building, wanting to create.  I should have been taking time to reflect to see how things had become such a mess.  But rather I decided to help Vanda get established and help them get there KS deck funded.  David decided to keep it secret because he needed the help and he likely didn't understand the depth of my troubles.  I helped him get 100% and to CBJ's dismay worked with him as well.  During the talks with CBJ I asked him about my self... YEAH, very messed up but I did it because I wanted to know how bad it was for me.  I knew the community was very angry with me and I had to know.




Looking back... yeah things were great and I ruined it because of my inexperience and my ambition.  I should have taken the time to research, to learn from my mistakes before making new ones.  I should have stopped and fixed something vs creating another issue to fix one.  I have had the incredible privilege of understanding from people like Lance Miller, Paul Carpenter, and others that prefer not to be mentioned.  I NOT ONCE wanted to cause problems or hurt people.  I simply would not slow down and focus and listen.  I'm still paying the price for it today.  I take full responsibility of my actions and bear the burden almost daily.  I try to reach out to anyone that comes forwards and offer a solution.  I know I cannot stop growing and give up.


FILM FEST QUESTION

Most of the prizes were never sent to me. Only seasons prizes & D&D prizes were.  I've spoken to Alex Chin regarding it and he told me that I have to learn from my mistakes and he was hard on me about it.  As he should be.  D&D prizes were not returned.  I never had the money to do so.  I don't have a happy ending for a lot of what has happened and I regret it. 


WHAT HAS CHANGED? 

Well the first step to fixing a problem is always admitting you have one. So here it goes.  I'm bad with money, I'm even worse with follow through.  I'm bad with people and sometime let my anger speak for me. 

I have taken more time that you know to reflect to see the damage I've caused.  I now have my partner Katrina White to manage accounts to be sure I'm not tempted with reckless impulses.  It allows me to focus on the bigger picture.  I also take time now to develop a concept.  I let it sit and then come back to it.  I know to many of you the Playing Card Awards seems rushed, but I've been planning it for almost a year now. 

LOOP CUTS has been selling again recently and we have shipped 100% of our sold products and have kept a clean track record.  Things are not the same as they once were. 

The Playing Card Awards are in play and it's doing very very well.  On day 1 we had 125 nominations and more are coming in.  The trophys are being made by a sponsor and will be shipped out by them.  Any prizes are being provided by a sponsor and will be shipped out by them as well.  The event is 100% on the up and up.  I know when my name comes up that many bad things follow but give it a chance, please.




Let me close by saying this.  I'm am truly sorry 100% for all the past mistakes.  I'm not interested in hiding the truth.  I beg each and everyone of you to please, please give me the chance to do what I love.  Let me move on and let me grow.  I'm now reading "The Purple Cow".  It's a marketing book... I want to do the time to research, I want to do right by all of you but I just need the opportunity.

CBJ... I'm sorry man.  I know we are past apologies and you simply don't want anything to do with me and I will respect that.  I admit to my wrong doing... please just let me be.  Let me live my life. 


Thank you all for your time. 

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Wow, this has run away without me!  I know this event isn't perfect and it has it's flaws but I will work to make sure it works better in the future.  So far it has developed nicely and I've spoken to many people about doing this on a larger scale.  Finger crossed that with time it turns out to everyone's favor.

Cheers

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Clear Mechanics Deck | Now Available

http://loopcuts.com/?product=clear-mechanics-deck

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Introduce Yourself / Loop Cuts Team Introduction
« on: June 04, 2014, 08:37:51 PM »
Hey Gang,

Everyone knows that Robert Butler is they guy behind Loop Cuts.  Everyone also knows that it didn't do that well due to many reasons.  For the past 4-5 months Loop Cuts has been torn apart, dissected and put back together.  It is very obvious that bad, unethical decisions were made.  With the help and guidance of Katrina White, the project has taken a huge turn around.  The big problem was that even though Robert has a talent, he couldn't fill all the roles and responsibilities, that Loop Cuts required and needed, properly.  With the addition of Katrina White and a great deal of work on the part of the team as a whole, Loop Cuts is on the right track and ready to show it's brighter colors.  Let's start fresh and reintroduce Loop Cuts as a whole.

LOOP CUTS TEAM
Katrina White: Administration & Accounting
Robert Butler: Creative Director & Web Support

~ Thanks!

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All very good points.  Lets take a moment to really understand our reasoning for the Clear Mechanics Deck.  The main benefit is to see what you normally cannot.  You should always use a normal deck during the learning process but this tool allows you to go back and forth so that you can truly dissect the motion  & finger placement.  When I was personally learning a move, I found most of my learning taking place when I made mistakes on finger placement and had to readjust continuously.  This is by no means the holy grail for students, but it is a very useful tool.  Also consider all the times that you've been at a magic meeting or a conference and someone is trying to teach you on the spot.  They could hold the Clear Mechanics deck while you held a normal deck.  Hope this helps.

Thanks!

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Playing Card Plethora / Clear Mechanics Deck (Discourse Exclusive)
« on: June 03, 2014, 09:07:04 AM »
This Friday Loop Cuts launches It's Summer campaign that includes Three releases.  We are dropping by the Discourse to reveal the Clear Mechanics gallery exclusively. 

The Clear Mechanics concept was developed about 7 months back when we were playing with a few new ideas.  We had seen a few artists on YouTube featuring similar concepts to help teach artists how to utilize a technique.  The simplicity of revealing the handling behind card sleights to aid others was a huge benefit for new magicians & cardists.  This was something that we really wanted to share and improve on.

Playing card technicians spend years mastering there craft.  The study of processioned placement and execution, hidden in plain sight, is there art of motion.

Clear Mechanics offers, both student and teacher, complete transparency when it matters most. A mirror for the student and a superior tool for the study of motion.

(NOTE: The gallery is featuring lower quality images than what will be featured on the site)

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Kickstarter "Successful Failures"
« on: April 17, 2014, 07:57:24 AM »
I've been waiting on my loop cuts card clips for quite some time. They were successfully funded, however 7 months later - it hasn't jogged my memory up until now - nothings turned up and loop cuts website, the kickstarter user loopcuts, and robert butler have disappeared.

Hey Agera94, Please check your KS account if you haven't already.  I just saw this message and you should have a tracking number, or the clip by now for that matter.

Thanks

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Design & Development / Leather Loop Card Clip ( Coming Soon )
« on: April 03, 2014, 09:59:12 AM »
After many months, Loop Cuts has a new release!  The Leather Loop Card Clip

( NOTE: A question will come to mind when you see this... " Did you guys even ship the last clips?"  The answer is officially YES!  After a good amount of consideration and thought, we retooled and stayed open.  A new team member, Katrina, is now managing accounts and administration to keep things on point.)

 


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Robert, could you clarify this please? Especially as you were interested in us stocking them.

Sure.  Overall I love them.  I think that they are cheaper and I love my rarebit clip.  However... from a business stand point I don't think the venture was worth it.  There is a grey area for error where there was a lack of consistency.  I had a few people contact me telling me that the clips were warped or uneven.  The uneven reports were rather consistent and I even ran into a few my self.   When I spoke to Ade about the production process, he mentioned that they threw a whole lot of them away during production because some would be outrageously uneven. Now while I love the clips and Ade's work, I would not pursue them in the future for these reasons.  Maybe it's not a critical reflection on Ade or the clips but a desire to work on a higher quality product on my end. 

Thanks

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: New Deck Report Concept
« on: January 15, 2014, 02:41:36 PM »
The Deck Report is now Live

http://loopcuts.com/deck-report/

I will continue to improve it as time goes on.  Thanks for all the feedback!

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: New Deck Report Concept
« on: January 14, 2014, 07:18:54 AM »
I really like this concept. Some layout tweaking and consistent updating and I will be behind this idea completely.
Captain negative up there brings up a good point though, how long are you willing to keep this up? If you have the stamina and fortitude to make this a permanent and up to date medium you will be doing a huge service to the community. If you aren't willing to be committed though, to see it through for as long as it needs to be around, you are spending a lot of energy and getting some hopes up.
I want to see this work and support you 100% so keep up what looks to be great work and people will respond to it!

It is indeed a lot of work but Loop Cuts has been running 1 year strong!  This layout that I've created is pretty friendly to upkeep.  I'm gong to have to grind out a ton of previous KS projects to make sure they are all available on the report though.  After that is done, I'll only have to add them as they launch and change a category every now and then.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: New Deck Report Concept
« on: January 13, 2014, 12:02:44 PM »
You should red flag quicksilver. They stopped posting updates and shipping a while ago.

There is many projects both good and bad that I've still got to add.  I will do so after I finalize the concept.


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Playing Card Plethora / Re: New Deck Report Concept
« on: January 13, 2014, 11:17:58 AM »
This is nice. With an influx of playing cards in Kickstarter, this is pretty neat. Not so sure about the fraud alert though. You won't really know it's a fraud until your deck doesn't deliver. Not unless that section is going to include projects with huge red flags. And the left and right arrows for the "New to Kickstarter" section controls the "New Arrivals" section.

I might rename the Fraud Alert to something else less abrasive and more general to red flags.  The "New to Kickstarter Section will only show the latest while the menu to the right of the page will list 10-15 of the latest.  I'm still thinking of ways to feature them and categorize them all. 

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Playing Card Plethora / New Deck Report Concept
« on: January 13, 2014, 10:19:35 AM »
Hey Gang.  I've been working on a deck report since the one here is hard to keep up with.  It's hosted on Loop Cuts because the forums won't support a proper layout that is manageable long term.  I've not made it public yet on Facebook so please don't share it yet.  I would like everyone to check out the report as it is right now and let me know what they think.  Please keep in mind that it is still in development and that more content will be added before it goes live.

Thanks

http://loopcuts.com/deck-report/

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Hey Gang!  These are made by Ade, the same guy that made the recent Loop Card Clips.  Interesting to see Ashley doing these now but I suppose it was to be expected.  I discontinued these for Loop Cuts due to the insane amount of error that can take place.  I found that at the end of the day, regardless of how interesting acrylic can seem for a clip, it's not ideal. You cannot insert your cards the same way you do with a porper, and the clips are not easy to monitor when it comes to quality control.  Not a good product to build a long term reputation with.  Thus, Loop Cuts is working on something new ;)

Cheers

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Foto Grafis v 2.0 Now Live on Kickstarter
« on: January 02, 2014, 11:30:09 AM »
USPCC may be the big company on the block but many artists and companies are seriously looking for alternatives.

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Design & Development / Re: Short KS Campaign?
« on: December 18, 2013, 01:25:25 PM »
  ::) Just trying to help

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The Conversation Parlor / Re: Contest Topic! Post Contests HERE!
« on: December 18, 2013, 12:39:12 PM »
1 Year Anniversary Giveaway | LOOP CUTS

Currently Running - Ends January 1st, 2014

Sign up for the Loop Cuts News Letter to enter the Giveaway

PRIZES

1st Drawing

1 Fulton October

1 Pit Hartling

1 Brown Madison Rounders

1 Deco Set

1 Aurum

2nd Drawing

1 Pit Hartling

1 Brown Madison Rounders

3rd Drawing

1 Pit Hartling

ENTER HERE | http://loopcuts.com/1-year-anniversary-giveaway/

Signed up, when/how will the drawing be done?

The Drawing will be done January 1st 2014 and will be done by Randomizer.org. 

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Design & Development / Re: Short KS Campaign?
« on: December 18, 2013, 12:36:36 PM »
I've thought about the concepts and even experimented with it on the Armatura Card Clips for Loop Cuts.  I think it would create an impulse urge to pledge faster if your a big fan but on the other hand, I don't think it would work accordingly for anyone that doesn't have an established brand.  I'd only expect it work work for people Like Jackson Robinson or Encarded.  I believe Paul from Encarded did a short KS for the Aurum but only sold 100 decks

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/encarded/aurum-custom-playing-cards-from-encarded?ref=live

You also have to consider that the longer time lines for the campaigns will always benefit you more because more people will discover you.  I wouldn't recommend doing it for a full 2500 playing card campaign. 

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings from Kardify
« on: December 18, 2013, 11:27:52 AM »
Hey Ivan!  I've been watching you for about a month and I have to agree that you've got something good with the Kickstarter tracking. 

Keep it up ;)

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The Conversation Parlor / Re: Contest Topic! Post Contests HERE!
« on: December 18, 2013, 11:15:06 AM »
1 Year Anniversary Giveaway | LOOP CUTS

Currently Running - Ends January 1st, 2014

Sign up for the Loop Cuts News Letter to enter the Giveaway

PRIZES

1st Drawing

1 Fulton October

1 Pit Hartling

1 Brown Madison Rounders

1 Deco Set

1 Aurum

2nd Drawing

1 Pit Hartling

1 Brown Madison Rounders

3rd Drawing

1 Pit Hartling

ENTER HERE | http://loopcuts.com/1-year-anniversary-giveaway/

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