Emerald Tally Ho Playing Cards by Jackson Robinson (KS)

[Rob Wright]

Looks good so far 

The first was for my youngest daughter Scarlett the second is for my oldest Claire.

Emerald Tally Ho Playing Cards by Jackson Robinson

[HankMan]

I missed tally ho scarlet, I'm not gonna miss this 1 
Is this gonna be on KS? Any ideas when?

[Magasaki]

Nice, I also missed the Scarlett Tally Ho's but will try and pick a couple up on ebay for extortionate prices. Anyone got any idea when the scarlets are expected to be released?

[PrincessTrouble]

Nice, I also missed the Scarlett Tally Ho's but will try and pick a couple up on ebay for extortionate prices. Anyone got any idea when the scarlets are expected to be released?

This was the KS Update posted by Jackson a few days ago:

Hello everyone, I'm excited to announce that the Scarlett Tally Hos should be finished and complete ready to ship this week. Barring some unforeseen production hickup we should be on track to fulfill the Scarlett Tally Hos in April as originally estimated. Once I receive the decks, which should be later this week, there will be some quality control to take care of. Until then get ready guys these decks are awesome, and you are going to love them.

[Rob Wright]

Green with envy

[Justin O.]

A recolor deck? Guess we will see if the people that are so aggressively against recolor projects will make allowances for a KW deck.

[Rob Wright]

Not a  recolor.

[Don Boyer]

I very much like what I'm seeing here.  The design's a little elaborate, but I'm still very interested.  I'm hoping that this one isn't a highly-limited edition.

[Justin O.]

Glad to see the backs got a little more retreatment than the QoH, but it still feels like a recolor to me. Small changes (small aesthetically, not physically) to an existing design doesn't say 'new deck' to me. regardless it is still an attractive design in green. I wonder if he will to the same exceptionally limited release he did for Scarlett..?

[Fess]

I'm digging on the green and purples showing up on decks now. I appreciate the flavor and I'll be a backer for these. That's all I know haha.

[HankMan]

any hint when this is coming out on KS?

[Don Boyer]

any hint when this is coming out on KS?

It might not.  The Scarlett didn't.  He held a "crowdfunding/pre-sale" on his own site.

EDIT: correction - it was on KS.  But that's what he did for the first TH deck he made.  I knew he did it before.  He also did that for the Hive deck, at least the first edition.

[flyers3003]

any hint when this is coming out on KS?

It might not.  The Scarlett didn't.  He held a "crowdfunding/pre-sale" on his own site.

What?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1722808047/scarlett-tally-ho-playing-cards-by-jackson-robinso?ref=nav_search

I think you're thinking of the 1st Tally-Ho that Jackson did (Blue and Yellow)

[Rob Wright]

Emerald Tally Ho, going live on Kickstarter on Sat. May 2nd at 12:00pm central.

[Don Boyer]

any hint when this is coming out on KS?

It might not.  The Scarlett didn't.  He held a "crowdfunding/pre-sale" on his own site.

What?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1722808047/scarlett-tally-ho-playing-cards-by-jackson-robinso?ref=nav_search

I think you're thinking of the 1st Tally-Ho that Jackson did (Blue and Yellow)

Yeah, I was typing my correction while you were typing your reply...

Emerald Tally Ho, going live on Kickstarter on Sat. May 2nd at 12:00pm central.

This Saturday...  Bad choice of day from the buyer's perspective - people have to pay rent/mortgages at the start of the month! 

Doesn't matter, though - I see this as being a big seller, whatever level Jackson chooses for pricing.  What I REALLY would love to see is a new Tally Ho back with USPC standard faces that's in regular production - but I probably stand a better chance of seeing the inside of the Forbidden City.

[Fess]

When it ends is more important than when it starts in terms of paying bills I think. It won't matter either way to some people, like myself, who are attached and attracted to/by the Tally-Ho branding. This is a must have for me and I'm pretty excited about it haha.

I agree it would be nice to see a new Tally-Ho in regular production. Tally-Ho circle backs are easily my top choice of regular production decks, nothing else comes close.

[Justin O.]

Funded in less than two minutes

[Brian M]

If the timing in the month makes any difference to a person, that person is already spending far too much money on playing cards.

[HankMan]

Oh My I stayed up till 3 Am in the morning trying to get the $360 Tier...
but still couldn't get it  and every second I missed trying to change the tier, 1 by 1 are getting sold out...
Only end up with $56 

[Don Boyer]

Funded in less than two minutes

Um, forgetting something?  SHARE THE LINK, bro!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1722808047/emerald-tally-ho-playing-cards-by-jackson-robinson

I came very close to not backing when I saw that price tag.  In the end, I chose two Limiteds and two Displays.  $20 a pack for the limited is HIGH.  Yes, he's only making 700 of those, but in all variations, there will probably be about 2,000 decks made and every single box contains the exact same cards.

[bamabenz]

I came very close to not backing when I saw that price tag.  In the end, I chose two Limiteds and two Displays.  $20 a pack for the limited is HIGH.  Yes, he's only making 700 of those, but in all variations, there will probably be about 2,000 decks made and every single box contains the exact same cards.

Here's a couple more ways to look at these decks. First, somehow Jackson got USPCC to make gild a fairly small number of decks, and is probably paying a lot for those, and reselling them for a reasonable amount. At least compared to Uusi's gilded decks.

Second, the limited deck is $20 because of the tuck, not the cards. Honestly, the Scarlett has the most gorgeous tuck I've seen, and I'm sure it cost a bunch.

Third, backing for either the gilded or limited decks is the ticket that lets you buy a lot of display decks at $7 a pop, or $70 for a brick, which is very, very reasonable.

I think this is a great formula for both collectors and folks who actually want to play with the decks, and I hope there's more Tally Ho campaigns coming sometime down the road.

/bama

[EvanEssence]

Making the display decks unlimited in the pledge is a great idea...I think it would be better if they were just called standard.

It's like calling it a display deck lessens the perceptive value of it, but if you call it standard, it may lessen the perceptive value of the LE.

Anyways, I went straight for the 2x gild tier and was one of the 20 lucky enough to get it.

As of now there's only about 60 LE decks left, btw

[HankMan]

Making the display decks unlimited in the pledge is a great idea...I think it would be better if they were just called standard.

It's like calling it a display deck lessens the perceptive value of it, but if you call it standard, it may lessen the perceptive value of the LE.

Anyways, I went straight for the 2x gild tier and was one of the 20 lucky enough to get it.

As of now there's only about 60 LE decks left, btw

I think JR had changed the tuck for the display deck. I checked the display deck tuck and couldn't see any printing of "Display Deck"

Now that's a good thing.. I think 

Oh do you think there gonna be another Tally Ho from JR?

And if any body is thinking of cancelling their pledge for the legacy deck please tell me !!

Thank you

[Marcus]

The price tag certainly is higher on these, but with the low print-run, all those different metallic inks (three I think?), special numbered seals, gilding and so on, he's paying through the nose himself.

I'm in for a few just as with the Scarletts. And I tend to stick to my "no deck for more than $10" rule pretty strictly. That's how much I enjoy these decks.

[bamabenz]

I think JR had changed the tuck for the display deck. I checked the display deck tuck and couldn't see any printing of "Display Deck"
Thank you

The big change on the Emerald display tuck from the Scarlett is that the Emerald has Tally-Ho branding where the previous deck said Scarlett.

/bama

[PurpleIce]

And if any body is thinking of cancelling their pledge for the legacy deck please tell me !!

It's gonna be a mad dash when that happens. I overslept (well..it was like 1am for me) missed out the legacy and MMD#4. Bad day for me.

I am guessing there should be a third and probably fourth. Quite similar to the Ornates deck, most probably a "sapphire-coloured" Tally-Ho and probably one more. I am guessing Topaz, but then again yellow is already out. And i am sure he has more family members to make it for as well... 

It's just a guess for now though....

The price tag certainly is higher on these, but with the low print-run, all those different metallic inks (three I think?), special numbered seals, gilding and so on, he's paying through the nose himself.

I'm in for a few just as with the Scarletts. And I tend to stick to my "no deck for more than $10" rule pretty strictly. That's how much I enjoy these decks.

If i had the "no deck for more than $10" rule for KS projects, I probably won't be buying anything anymore. I do have a "don't buy decks that look ugly" rule though...and with more recent times, "don't buy minimalist decks that takes 15 minutes to complete" rule

[Don Boyer]

I came very close to not backing when I saw that price tag.  In the end, I chose two Limiteds and two Displays.  $20 a pack for the limited is HIGH.  Yes, he's only making 700 of those, but in all variations, there will probably be about 2,000 decks made and every single box contains the exact same cards.

Here's a couple more ways to look at these decks. First, somehow Jackson got USPCC to make gild a fairly small number of decks, and is probably paying a lot for those, and reselling them for a reasonable amount. At least compared to Uusi's gilded decks.

Second, the limited deck is $20 because of the tuck, not the cards. Honestly, the Scarlett has the most gorgeous tuck I've seen, and I'm sure it cost a bunch.

Third, backing for either the gilded or limited decks is the ticket that lets you buy a lot of display decks at $7 a pop, or $70 for a brick, which is very, very reasonable.

I think this is a great formula for both collectors and folks who actually want to play with the decks, and I hope there's more Tally Ho campaigns coming sometime down the road.

/bama

Is USPC doing his gilding?  Or is he having a third party do it?  Last I heard, USPC used paint for gilding, not leaf.

I like more Tally Ho out there - but I'm missing the more traditional faces as well as some of the classic back designs.  Most people don't even realize the numerous different TH backs that were made over the years - they see Circle Back and Fan Back and think that's the end of it.

[HankMan]

I like more Tally Ho out there - but I'm missing the more traditional faces as well as some of the classic back designs.  Most people don't even realize the numerous different TH backs that were made over the years - they see Circle Back and Fan Back and think that's the end of it.

To my knowledge, I only know (Apart from the different colour TH and Titanium TH)
1. Viper TH
2. Split Spades TH
3. KW TH
4. Scarlett
5. Emerald
6. British Monarchy TH
7. Spectrum TH

What else do I miss?

[bamabenz]

Is USPC doing his gilding?  Or is he having a third party do it?  Last I heard, USPC used paint for gilding, not leaf.

I like more Tally Ho out there - but I'm missing the more traditional faces as well as some of the classic back designs.  Most people don't even realize the numerous different TH backs that were made over the years - they see Circle Back and Fan Back and think that's the end of it.

Jackson, from the Scarlett thread on PCF:
"USPCC did all of the gilding for this deck, UUSI does every single one of there decks by hand and also with 24 Karat Gold. Not that USPCC did a poor job on the Scarletts, but the quality bar is always much higher with handwork and also top shelf materials... and also price. If I gilded my cards by hand and with 24 Karat Gold I would also charge UUSI prices for gilded decks...

FYI I will have hand gilded decks with 24 Gold leaf for Legal Tendar "

[Marcus]

If i had the "no deck for more than $10" rule for KS projects, I probably won't be buying anything anymore. I do have a "don't buy decks that look ugly" rule though...and with more recent times, "don't buy minimalist decks that takes 15 minutes to complete" rule

Oh, I have the "don't buy ugly decks" rule as well, which saves me from the majority of decks these days. Oh snap, I went there.

[Don Boyer]

Is USPC doing his gilding?  Or is he having a third party do it?  Last I heard, USPC used paint for gilding, not leaf.

I like more Tally Ho out there - but I'm missing the more traditional faces as well as some of the classic back designs.  Most people don't even realize the numerous different TH backs that were made over the years - they see Circle Back and Fan Back and think that's the end of it.

Jackson, from the Scarlett thread on PCF:
"USPCC did all of the gilding for this deck, UUSI does every single one of there decks by hand and also with 24 Karat Gold. Not that USPCC did a poor job on the Scarletts, but the quality bar is always much higher with handwork and also top shelf materials... and also price. If I gilded my cards by hand and with 24 Karat Gold I would also charge UUSI prices for gilded decks...

FYI I will have hand gilded decks with 24 Gold leaf for Legal Tendar "

USPC hand-gilds ALL of their decks - there is no machine for the process.  The difference I was pointing out was that USPC uses painted gold while Uusi uses gold leaf, and it wasn't clear to me which of the two processes were being used here.  I know now that since USPC did it, it was probably painted, and that for his next deck, he'll be using the gold leaf process.

[JacksonRobinson]

Is USPC doing his gilding?  Or is he having a third party do it?  Last I heard, USPC used paint for gilding, not leaf.

I like more Tally Ho out there - but I'm missing the more traditional faces as well as some of the classic back designs.  Most people don't even realize the numerous different TH backs that were made over the years - they see Circle Back and Fan Back and think that's the end of it.

Jackson, from the Scarlett thread on PCF:
"USPCC did all of the gilding for this deck, UUSI does every single one of there decks by hand and also with 24 Karat Gold. Not that USPCC did a poor job on the Scarletts, but the quality bar is always much higher with handwork and also top shelf materials... and also price. If I gilded my cards by hand and with 24 Karat Gold I would also charge UUSI prices for gilded decks...

FYI I will have hand gilded decks with 24 Gold leaf for Legal Tendar "

USPC hand-gilds ALL of their decks - there is no machine for the process.  The difference I was pointing out was that USPC uses painted gold while Uusi uses gold leaf, and it wasn't clear to me which of the two processes were being used here.  I know now that since USPC did it, it was probably painted, and that for his next deck, he'll be using the gold leaf process.

USPCC does not paint on the gilding. It is the same process that UUSI uses just with a heat roller machine. Decks are sanded, sizing is applied to the cards the the foil / leaf is laid on the cards the they are pressed or heat pressed in the case of USPCC. The only real difference between UUSI's process and USPCC is the heat roller machine and the fact that UUSI uses 23 Karat gold and not just faux gold / silver foil.

[Justin O.]

USPCC does not paint on the gilding. It is the same process that UUSI uses just with a heat roller machine. Decks are sanded, sizing is applied to the cards the the foil / leaf is laid on the cards the they are pressed or heat pressed in the case of USPCC. The only real difference between UUSI's process and USPCC is the heat roller machine and the fact that UUSI uses 23 Karat gold and not just faux gold / silver foil.

I suspect little things likely make up quite a bit of difference; things like levels of quality of leafing and differences in the sizing used that Uusi probably doesn't make any allowences on where a large company like USPCC I imagine buys in bulk and buys more based on cost effectiveness and less for quality of materials to a point. And Uusi really sells the particular method they use for application which I think adds some character if only conceptually.

There is a noticable difference between the two mostly in handling, but both are absolutely gorgeous in their gilding.

[JacksonRobinson]

USPCC does not paint on the gilding. It is the same process that UUSI uses just with a heat roller machine. Decks are sanded, sizing is applied to the cards the the foil / leaf is laid on the cards the they are pressed or heat pressed in the case of USPCC. The only real difference between UUSI's process and USPCC is the heat roller machine and the fact that UUSI uses 23 Karat gold and not just faux gold / silver foil.

I suspect little things likely make up quite a bit of difference; things like levels of quality of leafing and differences in the sizing used that Uusi probably doesn't make any allowences on where a large company like USPCC I imagine buys in bulk and buys more based on cost effectiveness and less for quality of materials to a point. And Uusi really sells the particular method they use for application which I think adds some character if only conceptually.

There is a noticable difference between the two mostly in handling, but both are absolutely gorgeous in their gilding.

You are absolutely right. I was only comparing the process and not so much the quality. I assure you that the quality of materials UUSI uses for gilding their decks is on a whole different level the what USPCC uses to gild my decks. That is easily seen in the quantity and also price difference. I'm currently working solidify my own process of producing hand gilded decks that use 24 Karat and Sterling silver leaf much like UUSI.

[Justin O.]

I'm currently working solidify my own process of producing hand gilded decks that use 24 Karat and Sterling silver leaf much like UUSI.

This. I have no doubts, especially after getting one of your Scarlett Legacy wooden slips, that your hand gilded decks will be uncompromising in quality.

[badpete69]

I like more Tally Ho out there - but I'm missing the more traditional faces as well as some of the classic back designs.  Most people don't even realize the numerous different TH backs that were made over the years - they see Circle Back and Fan Back and think that's the end of it.

To my knowledge, I only know (Apart from the different colour TH and Titanium TH)
1. Viper TH
2. Split Spades TH
3. KW TH
4. Scarlett
5. Emerald
6. British Monarchy TH
7. Spectrum TH

What else do I miss?

I have 42 different unique Tally Ho decks and I am sure i do not have them all

[PurpleIce]

I like more Tally Ho out there - but I'm missing the more traditional faces as well as some of the classic back designs.  Most people don't even realize the numerous different TH backs that were made over the years - they see Circle Back and Fan Back and think that's the end of it.

To my knowledge, I only know (Apart from the different colour TH and Titanium TH)
1. Viper TH
2. Split Spades TH
3. KW TH
4. Scarlett
5. Emerald
6. British Monarchy TH
7. Spectrum TH

What else do I miss?

I have 42 different unique Tally Ho decks and I am sure i do not have them all

Could you list them? I don't even have that much, if we are not counting colour variations.
Apart from those listed, I know Aloy's Studio have the 2 sets of 7 coloured Tally Ho.....and not much else 

[badpete69]

I was obviously counting the different colors as different decks even though they might be all circle or fan back

- Viper 2 different backs
- Split Spades 3 different colors
- KW TH
- Scarlett
- Emerald
- British Monarchy
- Spectrum
- Tally Ho Gaff Deck
- Tally Ho Blue Circle and Fan backs ( Kentucky printed)
- Tally Ho Blue Circle and Fan backs (Ohio Printed) these have a blue USPCC seal instead of the usual black one
- Tally Ho Red Circle and Fan backs ( Kentucky printed)
- Tally Ho Red Circle and Fan backs (Ohio Printed) these have a blue USPCC seal instead of the usual black one
- Tally Ho Black Circle and Fan backs ( Kentucky printed)
- Tally Ho Black Circle and Fan backs (Ohio Printed) these have a blue USPCC seal instead of the usual black one
- Aloys reversed Circle and Fan backs  12 decks total
- Tally Ho Titanium Blue Theory 11
- tally Ho Titanium red Theory 11
- Tally Ho Circle and Fan back orange  made first for Asian market
- Tally Ho Circle backs Pink
- Tally Ho Circle Backs Silver
- Tally Ho Green Mr maeda  (rare)
- Tally Ho red gold Mr maeda (rare)
- Tally Ho blue gold Mr maeda (rare)

Probably forgetting one or two. here's a pic of my TH stash

[Don Boyer]

I like more Tally Ho out there - but I'm missing the more traditional faces as well as some of the classic back designs.  Most people don't even realize the numerous different TH backs that were made over the years - they see Circle Back and Fan Back and think that's the end of it.

To my knowledge, I only know (Apart from the different colour TH and Titanium TH)
1. Viper TH
2. Split Spades TH
3. KW TH
4. Scarlett
5. Emerald
6. British Monarchy TH
7. Spectrum TH

What else do I miss?

I was obviously counting the different colors as different decks even though they might be all circle or fan back

- Viper 2 different backs
- Split Spades 3 different colors
- KW TH
- Scarlett
- Emerald
- British Monarchy
- Spectrum
- Tally Ho Gaff Deck
- Tally Ho Blue Circle and Fan backs ( Kentucky printed)
- Tally Ho Blue Circle and Fan backs (Ohio Printed) these have a blue USPCC seal instead of the usual black one
- Tally Ho Red Circle and Fan backs ( Kentucky printed)
- Tally Ho Red Circle and Fan backs (Ohio Printed) these have a blue USPCC seal instead of the usual black one
- Tally Ho Black Circle and Fan backs ( Kentucky printed)
- Tally Ho Black Circle and Fan backs (Ohio Printed) these have a blue USPCC seal instead of the usual black one
- Aloys reversed Circle and Fan backs  12 decks total
- Tally Ho Titanium Blue Theory 11
- tally Ho Titanium red Theory 11
- Tally Ho Circle and Fan back orange  made first for Asian market
- Tally Ho Circle backs Pink
- Tally Ho Circle Backs Silver
- Tally Ho Green Mr maeda  (rare)
- Tally Ho red gold Mr maeda (rare)
- Tally Ho blue gold Mr maeda (rare)

Probably forgetting one or two. here's a pic of my TH stash

The green Tomohiro Maeda deck is called Tally Ho Platinum, for the silver border around the back design.

Of the Tally Ho Gold, there were non-Maeda and Maeda versions of each, as well as a baby-blue Maeda-only deck that's more rare than the other two - or at the least is more costly.  The problem with the Tally Ho Gold in red and blue, however, is that unless you're a meticulous sorter, you can't tell the non-Maeda and Maeda decks apart - everything on the tuck box, right down to the bar code, is identical between the two editions.  I recall someone telling me that the baby blue one is the more expensive of the three because of the fact that it's immediately identifiable as a Maeda deck and wasn't part of the "standard" release of Tally Ho Gold decks!

Maeda also made a mini Tally Ho deck in blue, and I've heard that it's available in red as well.

When I referred to different backs, I wasn't even considering any of these, which are really just Circle Backs and Fan Backs in minor variations.  There have been other backs over the years.  The best-known example of this was recently printed as a Bicycle deck - the Dragon Back design.  The ad copy for it, when it was initially released, was that it was some 100-year-old design lost in USPC's archives, thought to be a previously-unknown Bicycle back that might never have been released.  The truth of it is that it was a Tally Ho back - the originals were done in a monochrome style, which looks infinitely better than the multicolor mess they made for the Bicycle decks because of the higher degree of visible detail work in the art itself.  Now there's also a fourth and fifth color scheme for this design as a Bicycle-branded deck, courtesy of CollectablePlayingCards.com.  I seem to recall another back that had the US flag on it - which if I'm not mistaken was printed in a recent issue of CARD CULTURE Magazine in an article on Andrew Dougherty, the original printer of the brand.  I know that we have a topic in here somewhere that has a photo of the original Dragon Back - a single Tally Ho card was being offered as a "single swap" card on eBay at the time in that design.

Somewhere in my photo collection, I have pictures of some classic TH card backs that I snapped when I met the Dawsons for the first time at their home in Toronto.  Tom took Lee Asher and me down into the basement to look over his archives, among which was a salesman's sample book for Tally Ho brand playing cards.  I could be mistaken, but I think that book may have been sold to Bill Kalush - I know he bought a few sample books from Tom in the recent past.

[Justin O.]

May 06, 2015, 05:34:07 PM »

2 more H1 and 3 more K1 slots opening up at 1800 Central. This will be your chance to get some of the Legacy editions of you missed th first run of tiers

[HankMan]

2 more H1 and 3 more K1 slots opening up at 1800 Central. This will be your chance to get some of the Legacy editions of you missed th first run of tiers

And it was gone within 3 seconds... I missed that again...

[PurpleIce]

2 more H1 and 3 more K1 slots opening up at 1800 Central. This will be your chance to get some of the Legacy editions of you missed th first run of tiers

And it was gone within 3 seconds... I missed that again...

It's not today? Seriously put a date in the update....Spare some thoughts for international customers receiving the email at 4am in the morning and not knowing which day is "later in the day" 

[HankMan]

2 more H1 and 3 more K1 slots opening up at 1800 Central. This will be your chance to get some of the Legacy editions of you missed th first run of tiers

And it was gone within 3 seconds... I missed that again...

I was quite surprised too when I received it. I didn't know what date, so I convert the time and keep an eye on it anyway.
And when it was launched, I couldn't even select the tier and then I refreshed it just to find that its already sold out.
I think it was less than 3 seconds. 

It's not today? Seriously put a date in the update....Spare some thoughts for international customers receiving the email at 4am in the morning and not knowing which day is "later in the day" 

[Justin O.]

Oh geez!! I'm sorry guys!!! 

Added the date above

[HankMan]

Oh geez!! I'm sorry guys!!! 

Added the date above

I don't think it was your fault, even the update from JR wasn't very clear.

[Justin O.]

Just got my survey for Emerald and am really pleased to see a place to include my deck numbers from the Scarlett project which KW will try to match with my Emerald decks. I think this is a really great touch!

[Don Boyer]

Just got my survey for Emerald and am really pleased to see a place to include my deck numbers from the Scarlett project which KW will try to match with my Emerald decks. I think this is a really great touch!

That is nice - I hope he's not doing that for every one of his prior backers, though.  Not that it's a bad thing - it would simply be a severe test of one's sanity!

[bamabenz]

Just got my survey for Emerald and am really pleased to see a place to include my deck numbers from the Scarlett project which KW will try to match with my Emerald decks. I think this is a really great touch!

That is nice - I hope he's not doing that for every one of his prior backers, though.  Not that it's a bad thing - it would simply be a severe test of one's sanity!

If you pledge and received a Scarlett Tally Ho Legacy Edition from the last Kickstarter you may request to receive the same numbered deck for the Emerald Tally Ho Legacy Edition.

So its just for the 50 Legacy boxed decks.

/bama

[Justin O.]

"Silver Edition Shortage

In an attempted to keep the number of "actually" produced Silver Edition decks to a minimum and not have a huge number of overruns, I kept the production number pretty close to the 10% over under that USPCC requires. Unfortunately now that I have had a chance to fullfill all the orders, throw out all the damaged decks, I am short about 28 Silver Editions. If you are in that last group of 12 orders you are there because you order Silver Editions and I do not have enough remaining Silver Edition to send to you. It really sucks and I am very sorry for the inconvenience that this may have caused. So what does that mean for you now.

If you are in that group of 12 backers who ordered Silver editions I will either replace each Silver Edition with 2 Limited Editions or 4 White Standard Editions or give you a 100% refund for the Silver Editions you pledged for.

If you are in that group you will be receiving an email directly from me within the next hour repeating the above info and also asking you what you would like to do.

Thanks you so much for your support and I apologize for this mix up."

Check your emails people, I hope no one on here was unfortunate enough to be one of the above 12, it looks like Jackson is really working to make up for the shortage though. Sucky position for him to find himself in and I imagine a fear for any project creator.

[Cardfool]

Man, that is a bummer for those 12 backers!   . Also a tough spot to be in for Jackson...hope all works out in the end.

[Mark]

A number of the 12 are Russian and claiming a conspiracy. It's tough to lose a silver edition, a pair of limiteds don't quite measure up but I don't think there's any real good solution. Maybe a substitute on a future project.

[Don Boyer]

A number of the 12 are Russian and claiming a conspiracy. It's tough to lose a silver edition, a pair of limiteds don't quite measure up but I don't think there's any real good solution. Maybe a substitute on a future project.

It's against KS rules to offer rewards from future projects.

[HankMan]

hmm when I missed the white silver deck I was disappointed, but now I am lucky enough to get the silver edition 

This is a very difficult situation for Jackson..

[PrincessTrouble]

hmm when I missed the white silver deck I was disappointed, but now I am lucky enough to get the silver edition 

Me too.  Was irked that I had missed the white box silver, but now I'm happy I have my regular silver!

[Justin O.]

hmm when I missed the white silver deck I was disappointed, but now I am lucky enough to get the silver edition 

This is a very difficult situation for Jackson..

I don't think anyone wins in this situation. And Jackson has made his decision, I don't think it is the best option, but it is his call and I know that he doesn't take his backers lightly. The anti-russian conspiracy seems a little extreme though...

[HankMan]

hmm when I missed the white silver deck I was disappointed, but now I am lucky enough to get the silver edition 

This is a very difficult situation for Jackson..

I don't think anyone wins in this situation. And Jackson has made his decision, I don't think it is the best option, but it is his call and I know that he doesn't take his backers lightly. The anti-russian conspiracy seems a little extreme though...

Looks like the situation had calmed down..

[cardician]

hmm when I missed the white silver deck I was disappointed, but now I am lucky enough to get the silver edition 

This is a very difficult situation for Jackson..

I don't think anyone wins in this situation. And Jackson has made his decision, I don't think it is the best option, but it is his call and I know that he doesn't take his backers lightly. The anti-russian conspiracy seems a little extreme though...

Looks like the situation had calmed down..

The" situation" will calm down when he decides to ship the actual decks (which he hasn't) and send the people their refund accordingly (which he hasn't)...

[Justin O.]

The "situation" will calm down when he decides to ship the actual decks (which he hasn't) and send the people their refund accordingly (which he hasn't)...

He is probably still waiting to get everyone's decision first before executing the correction, I imagine it will not be an immediate thing

[Don Boyer]

The" situation" will calm down when he decides to ship the actual decks (which he hasn't) and send the people their refund accordingly (which he hasn't)...

Were you one of the twelve who didn't get the deck?  If not, what the hell difference does it make to you?

Jackson's many things, but he's the furthest thing from a ripoff artist you're going to find.  One way or another, he'll work to make his backers whole.

[cardician]

Don, yes I was.

Thanks for your input!