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Title: stock stiffness
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 03, 2011, 08:48:25 PM
The vortex deck will be made of aristocrat stock correct? I just bought a few decks of the aristocrat 727 banknotes and they seem to be a little bit more stiff than other decks with the same stock. (such as the v6's)

is this because of the finish that was used on the decks?
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: xela on October 03, 2011, 09:09:28 PM
The Banknotes are Air-cushion + Aristocrat. v6 are Magic finish + Aristocrat. Finishes do not affect stiffness or thickness.

In fact, aside from how they feel on the surface, there should be no difference between the Banknotes and the v6's.

The Vortex will be slightly stiffer than the v6's because there is less ink saturation, but it does also use the magic/aristocrat combo.
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: Evan on October 03, 2011, 09:17:10 PM
I'm really hoping the Vortex Deck will be springy, and not very stiff. But its ok if its a little stiff because all it takes is a little use to break it in!
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: Curt on October 03, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
I'm really hoping the Vortex Deck will be springy, and not very stiff.


Isn't that statement a bit counterproductive? A stiffer deck would naturally give more spring than a soft deck due to the fact it would want to return to its original shape.
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: Evan on October 03, 2011, 09:35:35 PM
I mean bendy
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: john on October 03, 2011, 10:33:07 PM
The Banknotes are Air-cushion + Aristocrat. v6 are Magic finish + Aristocrat. Finishes do not affect stiffness or thickness.

In fact, aside from how they feel on the surface, there should be no difference between the Banknotes and the v6's.

The Vortex will be slightly stiffer than the v6's because there is less ink saturation, but it does also use the magic/aristocrat combo.

Um alex, i haven't used the aristocrats but it says linen on the box.
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: John B. on October 03, 2011, 11:13:34 PM
Sweet I like to fan stiff but bendys are nice for springs

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Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 04, 2011, 12:01:09 AM
Um alex, i haven't used the aristocrats but it says linen on the box.

Linen and air cushioned are pretty much the same thing from what ive read.

The reason i made this post was because i was breaking in a deck of aristocrats and they were very hard to lepaul spread; as if they were almost to stiff to bend enough to spring for the spread. That experience got me thinking so i opened up a new pack of v6's and they were MUCH easier to lepaul.

Are there different types of aristocrat stock??
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: John B. on October 04, 2011, 10:19:57 AM
just check that spread out, and i guess i have already been doing that one with out knowing it. lol i do a lot of things with cards before i see that others already have done it.
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: Kanped on October 04, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
Maybe the new backnotes aren't on Aristocrat stock?  I mean, just because they're using the brand name...
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 04, 2011, 03:14:09 PM
Maybe the new backnotes aren't on Aristocrat stock?  I mean, just because they're using the brand name...

i guess that could be true.
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: xela on October 05, 2011, 03:04:52 PM
There is no such thing as Linen finish anymore.
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: john on October 05, 2011, 03:33:49 PM
Yea i know, but i think it makes more sense to "agree" with what it says on the box to not cause confusion, a lot of people don't know about USPC and their finishes.
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 05, 2011, 06:54:57 PM
There is no such thing as Linen finish anymore.

what was "linen" finish like when it actually was a finish?
Title: Re: stock stiffness
Post by: Jin Jian on October 19, 2011, 10:37:54 AM
The Banknotes are Air-cushion + Aristocrat. v6 are Magic finish + Aristocrat. Finishes do not affect stiffness or thickness.

In fact, aside from how they feel on the surface, there should be no difference between the Banknotes and the v6's.

The Vortex will be slightly stiffer than the v6's because there is less ink saturation, but it does also use the magic/aristocrat combo.

so you are trying to see finish is just how smooth they are?