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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Arrow Playing Card Co.
« on: October 04, 2015, 07:58:37 PM »
Awesome info, Crypto.  Thank you

You're welcome! I am happy this helped ;)

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Old playing cards photos
« on: October 02, 2015, 10:57:17 PM »
Another interesting photo (c1890) of a card game with five men. One of them holds in the hands one of the first Ace of Spades made by Russell & Morgan. However, I am not sure if it is a Tigers #101 (Hochman US1), a Steamboat #999 (Hochman US7) or another..
If you have an idea, please don't hesitate to post ;)

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Arrow Playing Card Co.
« on: October 01, 2015, 11:14:30 PM »
Just bought a double deck of Arrow Playing Cards.  This ace lists 734-754 Mather St as their address, and the ace in Hochman has an address of 800 So. Sibley.  Anyone know which address was first and if there were any other addresses?  Any other tips as to dating these decks other than address?

Hello Chuqii,

The Arrow Playing Card Company, manufacturer of card and board stocks, was incorporated in 1927 at 800 Sibley Street with the Capital Stock of $30,000. The incorporators were: L. Grollman, C. Harris and A. A. Schlesinger. In 1930, the company has arranged for an increase in capital from $60,000 to $120,000, for general expansion at 734-754 Mather Street, before it becomes the Arrco Playing Card Company in 1935.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Old playing cards photos
« on: September 27, 2015, 03:51:22 AM »
Another great picture - these are terrific.

Thanks Tom ;) I also really like these two. They show Clara Gordon Bow (1905-1965) in scenes from the film No Limit directed by Frank Tuttle in 1931. She play the role of Helen 'Bunny' O'Day and on the first photo, she is holding a Bicycle deck with Expert back. 

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Could you put a photo of your storage boxes?

Sure.  They're on sale at Staples, a national office supply chain store.  Their stackability makes them very versatile.  They come with wheels on casters, but I don't recommend then if you're storing cards - the weight will only break them off at the anchor post holes.

The large white boxes are known in the trading card hobby as "Super Monster Boxes."  Ultra-Pro is the industry leader in making protective storage equipment for sports and gaming cards.  One such box would hold 5,000 baseball cards - in my case, they hold 125 decks each.

Thank you for the photos Don, it's very cool!! The "Super Monster Boxes" are very interesting. I don't have enough decks in my collection for the moment to buy it but it will be maybe a future purchase. You must have a lot of decks to have many boxes, right?

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Ask the Experts at 52 Plus Joker
« on: September 26, 2015, 07:36:46 PM »
Please, have you already seen this lithograph trade card made by the N.Y Consolidated Card Company's? I found it on the web and apparently, it features politicians. The name of the persons shown are, left to right: James G. Blaine, Benjamin Harrison, Levi Morton, Allen G. Thurman, Grover Cleveland, unknown. Would somebody have a copy or more information about this trade card? Probably dates from 1888. Thanks in advance.
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Concerning the Standard Playing Card Company, I would really like to see a copy of the early deck made by the company with the rare joker (Hochman SU1) pictured below.

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Very nice set and special to have a sealed one with intact stamp. Well done!

It's true that antique decks with intact stamp have a something extra, quite fascinating!

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Old playing cards photos
« on: September 24, 2015, 08:38:15 PM »
A small photographic treasure.. I would like to share with you this nice photo that I particularly like. It shows Lilian Russell (1860-1922), an American actress and singer sitting next to playing cards. The rare deck seen here is a Superior Steamboats #9 (Hochman NU2), made by The National Card Company since 1885. Personally, I find this picture really beautiful and it's a bit unusual to see an antique deck so distinctly on a photograph of this period. I hope you will enjoy that too!
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Well, it took a year, but I finally decided to branch out from KEM cards.  This set makes me glad I did. 1915 tax stamp on the unopened deck.  Smells like history.

Great set and one of the nicest Canary deck that I have seen up to now!

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It is not a deck but a some time ago, I found two antique engravings of 1876. The first one shows the factory of Andrew Dougherty at 76 Centre Street, in New York, and the engraving includes a protection sheet. The second represents the portrait of the manufacturer. The last one is of less good quality and a bit more damaged but colors are nevertheless magnificent for the two.

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I've seen some of the collections of Bill Kalush and Tom Dawson - both make excellent use of vintage display cases and storage cabinets to house some of their decks.  Not being in a position to afford them (and not wanting to deal with transporting the added weight when I move!), I use modern plastic drawer units from Staples that are interchangeable and stackable.

The drawers are semi-transparent plastic, allowing me to show off a few of the decks inside - they have a capacity of 45 decks per drawer in a single layer for the thinner drawers.  The "duplex" drawers are considerably more spacious, almost to the point of being inconvenient when storing decks because they're so deep.  They're capable of the same 45 decks-per-layer capacity, but can hold perhaps three or four layers!

BTW: that's excellent condition for a 110-year-old deck!


I am in the same situation as you for the storage but I have seen a cabinet of Tom on some pictures and this touch of antique to store the cards stimulate the desire to possess this type of furniture. However it need a lot of space and for the moment, I simply put my collection in a small glazed cabinet with three shelves and in some other boxes for the decks without significant value. Could you put a photo of your storage boxes?

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Interesting - if made in USA for Michaud, why did he commission the deck? Was it for publicity for his cognacs?

That is just a suggestion but indeed, I believe that he commissioned the deck for his own publicity if he was really not the manufacturer. The storekeepers liked to have small articles at hand (like matchboxes, fountain pen, candy boxes, etc.) with their name and address to offer them easily to the customers in their store. And if the woman drawn on the box makes a reference to an erotic hidden game, we could think that it was the funny little gift to accompany the Cognac glass :)

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Some additional pictures of Warren cabinets

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How about antique cabinets to store and display your playing card collection in beautiful drawers and window displays? Some time ago, I won an antique Apollo #33 deck made by the National playing Card Co. This blue copy is "sealed" with a tax stamp intact and protected in advertising leather box, initially addressed to "J. D. Warren Mfg Co", Chicago USA.

With a bit of research, I found some information and "J. D. Warren Mfg Company" was in the manufacture of Hardware store equipments, oak cabinets, boxes, cases, drawers, etc., in Chicago, in the early 1900s. When I received the Apollo deck, I considered it very nice already, but by seeing some of the products made by J. D. Warren, I also discovered a very interesting company with fabulous items that could even be useful to store a playing card collection (with sufficient place ;)) !!

I attached some pictures of the deck and the company below.
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Likely the Michaud deck was made in France specifically for an American publisher/distributor, i.e. Nelson.

Some corrections: In fact, I think that the Transparent deck was probably made in the United States for Jean Michaud because Michaud does not appear to have been a playing card manufacturer but rather a distiller who inspired the house of "E. Normandin & Co", formerly house of "Michaud et Fils", founded by Jean Michaud in 1844, before the business is managed by Messrs Cognac, Normandin and Rivière.

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Likely the Michaud deck was made in France specifically for an American publisher/distributor, i.e. Nelson.

I also thought that Michaud was maybe like Robert Sauzade, a Frenchman but resident and manufacturer in New York between 1840 to 1844 but I think you're right because of the quotations in english on each card and the french address on the box.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Democracy Playing Card Company
« on: September 23, 2015, 08:16:10 AM »
First time posting here.  Seeking information on this deck of cards.  Included in a grouping of WW1 military items.  The deck was open, but the cards appear to be unused.  Internet searches for information have not provided any info.  We are hoping that the expert members of this forum will be able to help.  More pictures to follow.  Many thanks in advance, Al and Kathy.

Your deck is very nice, especially the court and box!! For information, the Democracy Playing Card Co. has been incorporated in Delaware, July 31, 1918, with the capital stock of 2,000,000 by Francis A. Reilly of Brooklyn, New York; N. L. Higgins of New York City; and G. H. Parker of Dunellen, New Jersey. The company was located at 110 W. 40th St., New York.

The design of the deck was made by James C. Gaffney of Seattle, assignor to Democracy Playing  Card Co.
Patents and one article are pictured below.

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I recently found on the web a copy of the Transparent Playing Cards made by Jean Michaud (Hochman O20a). The box indicates the full name "Jean Michaud et Fils" and an address located in Paris, "19, Rue de la Barque". Michaud seems to be a French manufacturer. Do you have more info about that? The box is really nice!!
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Are we talking about the decks with the translucent cards, which when held to a light source show hidden art inside the two layers of the card?  Those are pretty cool - I'm surprised the process doesn't survive today in a mass-produced deck.  I have a few Hofzinser cards that work the same way, concealing a card reveal instead of a pretty picture.

I have no American transparent deck in my collection but I saw antique French transparent decks in museums, hiding some erotic scenes well hidden without light but I don't know if all American transparent decks hide the same thing.. I also don't understand why this process did not survive today.. too expensive ? Concerning the Michaud deck, it was maybe a special sending from an American manufacture to France for Jean Michaud If he was not the manufacturer but maybe that some experts can help us.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Old playing cards photos
« on: September 22, 2015, 11:47:48 PM »
Send all images to the Letters email address - CardCultureLetters(at)Gmail.Com.  I'd especially love unique and interesting images of people playing cards in a variety of settings.

With pleasure Don ;) I prepare a file and I send you that as soon as possible.

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I recently found on the web a copy of the Transparent Playing Cards made by Jean Michaud (Hochman O20a). The box indicates the full name "Jean Michaud et Fils" and an address located in Paris, "19, Rue de la Banque". Michaud seems to be a French manufacturer. Do you have more info about that? The box is really nice!!
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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Old playing cards photos
« on: September 21, 2015, 07:32:16 AM »
These are fantastic - how do you identify the exact cards?

Thanks Tom!! On these photos especially, I can identify the decks because of the back or the Ace of Spades and by making a zoom on the photo. A precious indication to find the manufacturer. I have just a doubt concerning the deck used by Theda Bara but I really think that it's a Standard PCC deck.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Old playing cards photos
« on: September 21, 2015, 07:21:09 AM »
Any time you ever want to put together a nice photo gallery for CARD CULTURE, you be sure and let me know!  I've love to publish some of these little gems you've discovered.  I LOVE the shot of Theda Bara playing solitaire - fantastic!

Thanks Don!! I would be very happy if you can publish a photo gallery for Card Culture. I can send you photos directly on your mail if you want. Waiting for it, here is a new antique pix of three men who play cards with a nice Fencing back made by American Playing Card Co., and pictured below.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Old playing cards photos
« on: September 20, 2015, 10:17:12 PM »
Back on the forum after a short absence, I leave you with a few new pictures of antique decks ;)
Have a Nice day!! Crypto

1: Man and dog with a nice Standard PCC Ace of Spades (Hochman SU1 - SU2)
2: Theda Bara, Solitaire game with a Standard PCC deck (Hochman SU4)
3: Three men play cards with a Standard PCC deck "Nuggett J" (Hochman SU25)
4: Girl with a vintage Jumbo Bicycle deck
5: Jessica Tandy and Hume Cronyn play the Gin Game with a Rider Bicycle deck.

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Thank you infinitely for your work and this update! For that price, I am not going to wait long :)

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