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Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2015, 07:58:38 PM »
 

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I could go for yellow, especially as it is on the court cards.

Just tried yellow. I'm not digging it, but thanks for the suggestion.

I tried lightening one blue and darkening the other. I kind of like this the best. Thoughts?

The last picture is the original

You're right.  The modified blue looks better.  The white is still good.
 

Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2015, 01:25:39 AM »
 

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Thanks for the insight Don. Here is the white.

I like this - but with a deeper blue.  Here in New York, there's a tradition of Greek diners everywhere.  The Greeks practically have a monopoly on the diner industry!  Most diners have these "to go" hot beverage cups that are decorated with Grecian border work and colored blue and white, but a deeper shade of blue - and that's what I typically associate with Grecian design, that darker blue with white.

I started tinkering with making that dark blue in the card a little bit darker to add more contrast. Good idea or bad idea?

The darker blue used here is better - but try something more of a pure "Aegean blue", with less green to it (less yellow, to be technical).  Think of a deep, rich ocean blue, devoid of green altogether.
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Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2015, 04:34:41 PM »
 

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I don't think I am going to reach the funding needed so I am thinking about doing an eventual relaunch.  I would plan on going with Legends because they require only 1,000 instead of 2,500.  This way I can drastically reduce the target goal.  Obviously the tuck box would not say Bicycle anymore. I am also thinking of changing the colors to be black and gold.  Do you guys have any suggestions that will help me make this more successful or do you think this deck will never get funded?
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Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2015, 08:00:23 PM »
 

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Black and gold looks good! Legends will look better on the box anyways to fit the mythology theme!!!
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Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2015, 08:29:56 PM »
 

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The box looks good but I am not a fan of the new faces.  The blue looked much more interesting.
 

Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2015, 09:58:21 PM »
 

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I don't think I am going to reach the funding needed so I am thinking about doing an eventual relaunch.  I would plan on going with Legends because they require only 1,000 instead of 2,500.  This way I can drastically reduce the target goal.  Obviously the tuck box would not say Bicycle anymore. I am also thinking of changing the colors to be black and gold.  Do you guys have any suggestions that will help me make this more successful or do you think this deck will never get funded?

Making the deck less expensive is always a good way to improve your odds.  Remember that a shorter print run will come with a higher per-deck cost.

The blue was much better than the black, though it needed tweaking.  If you go black, use yellow instead of metallic gold - metallic gold ink is very dark and you'll have the contrast issue all over again.
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Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2015, 10:13:44 PM »
 

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Making the deck less expensive is always a good way to improve your odds.  Remember that a shorter print run will come with a higher per-deck cost.

The blue was much better than the black, though it needed tweaking.  If you go black, use yellow instead of metallic gold - metallic gold ink is very dark and you'll have the contrast issue all over again.

Don, any idea how much Legends will charge per deck for 1,000?
Thoughts on this color combination? Trying something different.  That blue reminds me more of Greek colors. Like Santorini.
 

Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2015, 10:20:13 PM »
 

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I made the blue a tad darker actually.
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Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2015, 10:56:31 PM »
 

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Would love to see a sky blue and contrast to a deep gold. Now how these look on cards is a good question, but those are the colors I associate with Greece.
 

Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2015, 11:36:54 PM »
 

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Don, any idea how much Legends will charge per deck for 1,000?
Thoughts on this color combination? Trying something different.  That blue reminds me more of Greek colors. Like Santorini.

I'm afraid I don't know - I could guess, but that's all it would be.  Plus there's a lot of factors involved in pricing, not the least of which being any special features you might request.  You'd have to contact them for a quote.
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Re: Olympus Bicycle® Playing Cards (Kickstarter)
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2015, 06:23:36 AM »
 

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I really like the idea of a black and gold version of this deck -- gold and black is always an awesome combination. Stuart Palm's black/gold Gnostic deck is a good example of why that colour combination is cool.

I'd definitely back the project if the decks were to be printed with LPCC, because I really like Greek mythology, and I also like the back design of the cards :D
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Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2015, 08:47:15 AM »
 

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Hi guys. I thank everyone on this forum for their suggestions and constructive criticism. I plan on relaunching my Olympus deck of cards soon. I changed the colors and went with LPCC. My new target goal will be around $8,500 instead of $15,000. Here is a first glimpse:
 

Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2015, 09:55:29 AM »
 

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I like it a lot! :D  When is the re-launch?  BTW, would you consider making thinner borders on the backs...LPCC has very good alignment, unlike USPCC
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Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2015, 10:15:16 AM »
 

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Looks good from here.  And yes, I'm agreed with Cardfool - LPCC has more precise registration allowing for more uniform centering and cutting, so you could enlarge the design a bit more and make the border a little thinner.  I think it would be an improvement.
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Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2015, 01:41:30 PM »
 

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Excellent! :D

As stated on the previous thread, I love the design and concept. I think this deck will look quite stunning.

I just received the Legends Day of the Dead deck yesterday, and they'd used a really nice orange foil on the tuck... it looks quite stunning. Whether you go for orange foil or just ink on the tuck, either way it'll look great. Do consider orange foil as a stretch goal though.

I'm probably in a minority here... but I genuinely like "normal" sized borders, rather than thin ones!

I'll definitely be backing this project. See you at the launch!
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Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2015, 05:11:51 PM »
 

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I like it a lot! :D  When is the re-launch?  BTW, would you consider making thinner borders on the backs...LPCC has very good alignment, unlike USPCC
I plan on launching over the weekend or early next week. I will look into making the borders thinner and see how it looks.
 

Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2015, 08:17:30 PM »
 

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Like an entirely different deck.  Thumbs up.
 

Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2015, 06:14:09 AM »
 

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This is looking great  :)
I would prefer darker shade of gold/yellow  ;D
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Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2015, 06:25:22 AM »
 

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This is looking great  :)
I would prefer darker shade of gold/yellow  ;D

We were trying to improve the contrast, silly man...
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Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2015, 07:44:27 AM »
 

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This is looking great  :)
I would prefer darker shade of gold/yellow  ;D

We were trying to improve the contrast, silly man...

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Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2015, 05:52:26 PM »
 

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Looks good from here.  And yes, I'm agreed with Cardfool - LPCC has more precise registration allowing for more uniform centering and cutting, so you could enlarge the design a bit more and make the border a little thinner.  I think it would be an improvement.

Thoughts on these borders?
 

Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2015, 06:05:13 PM »
 

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Thoughts on these borders?

I think you misunderstood what we were talking about.  We meant the outer white border on the BACK of the card.  It's a popular trend to make this border as thin as possible - it allows for larger artwork and has an elegant look to it, but it's also difficult for the printer to create unless they have very precise registration in both printing (to align faces and backs) as well as cutting (to prevent the border from being uneven all the way around the card due to a miscut).

I will mention, though, that another popular trend which has a nice look to it would be to remove the border line between the indices and the court character image altogether.  The border seems to "constrain" the character image - when removed, it often gives it a cleaner, improved appearance and allows room to enlarge the court image.  I'd say experiment with it and see if it looks better to you.
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Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2015, 06:12:58 PM »
 

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Thanks for the clarification Don. So the white would be considered the border you are talking about? Here is how it would look if it was thinner:
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Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2015, 06:29:40 PM »
 

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Looks a lot better imho :D
 

Re: Olympus Playing Cards Relaunch [KS]
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2015, 06:32:08 PM »
 

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Looks a lot better imho :D
Yes I think so too. Everyone was talking about borders and I had no idea what they meant haha.