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Title: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Mike24 on October 29, 2014, 07:11:12 PM
Hey guys,

Got some really exciting new things coming out very shortly at E. I'll try and keep you guys up to date :)

Mike
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Paul.Middleton on October 29, 2014, 07:30:11 PM
Welcome to the forum.

My first guess at the name was Absinthe! Perhaps because of the teaser shots a while back saying something like "52 Proof" if I remember rightly?

Tuck looks promising.
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Marcus on October 29, 2014, 07:52:57 PM
Not really a fan of alcohol-related products, but I love some designs on liquor labels. Looking forward to this project. :) (Could've sworn it's spelled indulge, but I'm not a native speaker.)
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: JacksonRobinson on October 29, 2014, 08:44:23 PM
Already reminds me of Stranger and Stranger's Absinthe bottle.

http://www.strangerandstranger.com/absinthe/
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Rose on October 29, 2014, 10:26:53 PM
(Could've sworn it's spelled indulge, but I'm not a native speaker.)
Wait, I thought it said indulge also. What is induldge? Is this absinthe?
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: CBJ on October 29, 2014, 11:21:59 PM
I think they may have a couple alcohol related decks coming out...


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Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Don Boyer on October 30, 2014, 01:01:18 AM
Hey guys,

Got some really exciting new things coming out very shortly at E. I'll try and keep you guys up to date :)

Mike

Hi, Mike, and welcome to the forum.

Are you an E employee or just a well-connected fan?

Welcome to the forum.

My first guess at the name was Absinthe! Perhaps because of the teaser shots a while back saying something like "52 Proof" if I remember rightly?

Tuck looks promising.

I'm in agreement on the name, assuming the fill-in-the-blanks in the topic title is correct.  The card back would indicate otherwise - either the wrong name or perhaps there's a series of decks in which Absinthe is just one of them, as suggested by CBJ.

Either way, I'm probably not getting any.  Just as I don't get decks promoting tobacco, neither do I get decks promoting alcohol.

(Could've sworn it's spelled indulge, but I'm not a native speaker.)
Wait, I thought it said indulge also. What is induldge? Is this absinthe?

Yeah, that's a grade-A category-1 typographical error, better known as a "typo"!  :))  Hope someone at E caught that!
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: PurpleIce on October 30, 2014, 03:56:49 AM
Already reminds me of Stranger and Stranger's Absinthe bottle.

http://www.strangerandstranger.com/absinthe/

Perhaps another collaboration between stranger and stranger and a card company.

(Could've sworn it's spelled indulge, but I'm not a native speaker.)
Wait, I thought it said indulge also. What is induldge? Is this absinthe?

Yeah, that's a grade-A category-1 typographical error, better known as a "typo"!  :))  Hope someone at E caught that!

I wish they would release the "induldge" deck if it was a real typo. Then we will have an example to show for typo errors for new promising designers.  :P :P :P
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Paul.Middleton on October 30, 2014, 06:03:01 AM
I think they may have a couple alcohol related decks coming out...


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Yup, that's the one I was referring to.
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Marcus on October 30, 2014, 07:04:36 AM
I believe Mike24 is Mike Clarke, the designer behind the Sultans Series from Ellusionist.  :) Welcome to the board, Mike!
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Paul.Middleton on October 30, 2014, 07:21:44 PM
Posted to Facebook today.

Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Mydnyghte on October 30, 2014, 07:36:51 PM
Wait, I've got it. They're adding a bar to the Black Club.
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Rob Wright on October 31, 2014, 12:47:37 AM
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Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: PurpleIce on October 31, 2014, 04:15:08 AM
I think it looks wicked sick so far! Would look nice beside my bottle of Absinthe.
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Don Boyer on October 31, 2014, 08:51:12 AM
It does look nice, but I won't be backing.  It's the no-alcohol-or-tobacco-decks thing.

I'm a big concerned about those edges - if you look under the indices in that spiral fan, you can see something that printed into the bleed on some of the cards.  Hopefully those are ads or jokers.  The thing of it is, though, if you follow the curve to the right, in the out-of-focus area there appears to be more cards printed into the bleed.  Optical illusion?
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Mike24 on October 31, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
It does look nice, but I won't be backing.  It's the no-alcohol-or-tobacco-decks thing.

I'm a big concerned about those edges - if you look under the indices in that spiral fan, you can see something that printed into the bleed on some of the cards.  Hopefully those are ads or jokers.  The thing of it is, though, if you follow the curve to the right, in the out-of-focus area there appears to be more cards printed into the bleed.  Optical illusion?

Don,

Sometimes certain decks require you to step out of the guidelines of "designing only for magicians". This deck definitely has courts that bleed out to the edges. The courts are gorgeous and I felt like they needed room to breathe instead of being trapped inside borders :)
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Don Boyer on October 31, 2014, 11:36:10 AM
It does look nice, but I won't be backing.  It's the no-alcohol-or-tobacco-decks thing.

I'm a big concerned about those edges - if you look under the indices in that spiral fan, you can see something that printed into the bleed on some of the cards.  Hopefully those are ads or jokers.  The thing of it is, though, if you follow the curve to the right, in the out-of-focus area there appears to be more cards printed into the bleed.  Optical illusion?

Don,

Sometimes certain decks require you to step out of the guidelines of "designing only for magicians". This deck definitely has courts that bleed out to the edges. The courts are gorgeous and I felt like they needed room to breathe instead of being trapped inside borders :)

No, I understand this.  I was only speaking my own personal preferences.  Overall it's actually a very attractive deck, even if it isn't my cup of tea.

The issue with courts in the bleed area has nothing to do with magic and everything to do with practical design for whatever purpose the deck is used for.  If you have some cards printed into the bleed (in this case, the courts) and some cards that aren't, those that are in the bleed have a much better chance to be spotted from the edge of the deck, meaning that as a player I can identify when court cards are being dealt out.  In most games, that's valuable intel that would imbalance the odds.

A prime example of this in action is Lee McKenzie's original "Empire" deck.  It was a very lovely deck, but I can really only use it for solitaire.  There's a middle-of-the-side banner that's red or black based on the card's suit color and there are banners at the indices for the Aces and the court cards, also color-matched to suit color.  Because all those banners print into the bleed area, I can detect when high cards are about to be dealt by simply sitting in front of the dealer and observing the top edge of the deck.  It's worse when the deck is sitting stationary on the table, like in a game of rummy - no movement and prominent placement leaves no chance of concealment.  With practice, I might even be able to tell you the next card's color.

Doesn't mean the deck isn't absolutely beautiful.  It just means it's a little less practical for every application except perhaps cardistry.  Poker players wouldn't touch a deck like that with a ten-foot pole - to them, it's essentially a marked deck.
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: BiggerDee on October 31, 2014, 11:48:43 AM
Very nice! I will definitely be picking these up. I don't care anything about Absinthe, but I love the design!
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Mike24 on October 31, 2014, 12:21:47 PM
Here's the back.
Title: Re: AB*****E - New E deck
Post by: Paul Carpenter on October 31, 2014, 12:53:44 PM
From the peeks so far, this definitely looks like one of the most interesting and design-forward decks we've seen published by the big guys in, well, years. I'm liking the look of this a lot on the whole. Its very refreshing to see something other than rehashed and recolored bordered backs and standard courts.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Mike24 on October 31, 2014, 04:02:58 PM
Meet the King.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Card Player on October 31, 2014, 05:13:39 PM
Pros: Very intricate back design. The green suits are a pleasant & welcome change from the standard. It has a loose, carefree & fun feel to it, which works for this deck.

Cons: Reserved

Happy Halloween Mike! Welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Justin O. on October 31, 2014, 06:02:57 PM
Really love the back design, especially the way the 'A' is incorporated into the filigree, a really clean and beautiful design! I really hope to see that kind of quality design throughout the deck!

Really hate intentially blurry promotional photographs that pretentiously try to look apealing by teasing an actual image. If you want to show us cards, then show us. If you want to show teasers then at least do it in a creative way.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Frost on October 31, 2014, 08:02:45 PM
anybody know if they are limited or not ?
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Rose on October 31, 2014, 10:44:11 PM
Thanks for joining us Mike.
The backs remind me of the Ultimate deck backs, would like to see more of the court cards. Love the style of the box.
Really hate intentially blurry promotional photographs that pretentiously try to look apealing by teasing an actual image. If you want to show us cards, then show us. If you want to show teasers then at least do it in a creative way.
I was thinking this too. I don't get it at all, just looks bad.
The style of the Tuck box is really cool!!!
So, is it indulge or induldge?
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Don Boyer on November 01, 2014, 01:42:09 AM

So, is it indulge or induldge?

I'm thinking "indulge" - Mike removed the photo with the misspelling from his first post yesterday afternoon, presumably so the company can correct the tuck boxes.  I wonder if that will have an effect on the release date.

"Measure twice, cut once."
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Marcus on November 01, 2014, 05:25:02 AM
I wonder if that will have an effect on the release date.

Just don't blame me if it does. ;)
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Rose on November 01, 2014, 06:10:45 AM
I wonder if that will have an effect on the release date.

Just don't blame me if it does. ;)
You were the only person to notice the spelling error Marcus. Okay we wont blame you...too much!  ;)
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Don Boyer on November 01, 2014, 06:31:36 AM
I wonder if that will have an effect on the release date.

Just don't blame me if it does. ;)
You were the only person to notice the spelling error Marcus. Okay we wont blame you...too much!  ;)

I spotted it the moment I saw it - but I saw it several hours after it was posted, so I was far from the first to that party.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Justin O. on November 01, 2014, 10:34:49 AM
Maybe they're trying to affect a sense of olde-timey olde-elglishe to the deck to match their vintage advert aesthetic. Obviously so that when you and your friendes what to play a capitole carde game together at the theatre you can have a decke that matches the ocassione.

Waite.. Isn't Absinthe from France? As is the style of advertisemente posters I am thinking of, ala Toulouse-Lautrec?

Oh welle..
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Don Boyer on November 01, 2014, 02:46:33 PM
Maybe they're trying to affect a sense of olde-timey olde-elglishe to the deck to match their vintage advert aesthetic. Obviously so that when you and your friendes what to play a capitole carde game together at the theatre you can have a decke that matches the ocassione.

Waite.. Isn't Absinthe from France? As is the style of advertisemente posters I am thinking of, ala Toulouse-Lautrec?

Oh welle..

Har har.  Seriously, it was just a typo that went unnoticed until it showed up here.  By the Victorian Era, "Olde-Tyme Englishe" was a thing of the past.

Absinthe originated in late 18th-century Neuchâtel, a canton of French-speaking western Switzerland with a flavor based on anise and other botanicals.  Its peak of popularity was in fin de siècle Paris, where it became the drink of choice for bohemians, artists and writers.  Due to having trace amounts of chemical compound called thujone, provided by the leaves and flowers of grand wormwood used in the distillation process, the drink was thought to have hallucinatory effects.  Despite the amount of the chemical being in quantities too small to affect the body, the drink was banned in the US and throughout Europe in 1915.  Over time and more scientific examination, the drink was eventually considered no more harmful than any other spirit (no, it is not a liqueur - no added sugar), but the ban wasn't lifted until the European Union started unifying laws in regard to food and beverages.  Today, there's over 200 brands made and sold throughout Europe and North America.  It's typically found in strengths of 45-74% alcohol by volume (90 to 148 proof).

Yes, Mr. Toulouse-Lautrec and many of his contemporaries dabbled in the drink, and I believe he also created some advertising posters for it before the ban.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Fess on November 01, 2014, 09:48:59 PM
I really like the teaser pics. The spiny spin motion blur one is fantastic haha, it incites memories for me. I like things that can do that, inspire feeling. The spins are fine, it's the wobbles you gotta watch out for. I like what I'm seeing so far, from the back to the king. The deck looks like it's going to be interesting and I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: ozfan30 on November 02, 2014, 11:13:12 AM
In my opinion this is the best thing coming out from Ellusionist in a while. I am looking forward to picking up a few.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Collector on November 02, 2014, 01:09:36 PM
The King of Hearts makes me to be careful in my preliminary opinion about this deck. Tuck case and backs are nice.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: ruicorreia on November 02, 2014, 04:33:43 PM
In my opinion this is the best thing coming out from Ellusionist in a while. I am looking forward to picking up a few.

I totally agree!
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: aldazar on November 03, 2014, 09:04:41 AM
Card backs look amazing! Not so sure about the courts from the limited amount I've seen...
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: GBrown on November 03, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
In my opinion this is the best thing coming out from Ellusionist in a while. I am looking forward to picking up a few.

I totally agree!

Well, apparently it's only the 'tip of the iceberg' according to Ellusionist! 

As others have said already, there seems to be a couple of alcohol themed decks on the way over and beyond Absinthe;

http://instagram.com/p/u5tyevP4Xd/?modal=true
http://instagram.com/p/u3NyRdP4Uf/?modal=true
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: PrincessTrouble on November 05, 2014, 02:15:40 PM

I'm thinking "indulge" - Mike removed the photo with the misspelling from his first post yesterday afternoon, presumably so the company can correct the tuck boxes.  I wonder if that will have an effect on the release date.

"Measure twice, cut once."

Peter McKinnon posted on UC:

Quote
As Mike mentioned, we have 6 new 100% custom and individually unique decks coming out. The typo has already been corrected for the 2nd printing of Absinthe. Due to the time restraints and the sheer amount of labour that went into getting the Absinthe tuck to the way it is (Just wait till you see it in person!) taking into account the rest of the surprises we have in store for you - the 6 + weeks it would take to reprint, foil, emboss, stamp, pack and ship tuck's to our WH would *foil* our epic plans for everyone. See what I did there? ;) Pour a little absinthe, crack these bad boys open and they may even start to look like Rum...
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Don Boyer on November 05, 2014, 02:54:46 PM
Well, now we know - full steam ahead, damn the torpedoes!
Title: Prohibition 6 Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov 18th)
Post by: Rob Wright on November 05, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
Quote
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November 2
You've only seen the tip of the iceberg with Absinthe. Coming.

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Quote
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 9 hrs  ·

|| STAY THIRSTY || A little soothing syrup goodness coming your way soon. Yep, we've been busy behind the scenes and you won't believe the results!

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Title: Re: "soothing syrup" ? Ellusionist
Post by: Justin O. on November 05, 2014, 11:31:57 PM
Moon shine.
Title: Re: "soothing syrup" ? Ellusionist
Post by: Don Boyer on November 06, 2014, 12:34:04 AM
Looks like it.  Moon shine marketed as some patent medicine with a thickening agent.  I guess some traveling medicine shows were selling the stuff like that.
Title: Rebellion Rum Ellusionist 3rd release sneak peek
Post by: Rob Wright on November 06, 2014, 01:57:25 AM
I'm thinking Rebel Something? ?
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The Original.

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Title: Re: Reb..........? Ellusionist 3rd release sneak peek
Post by: bamabenz on November 06, 2014, 03:19:00 AM
Rebellion Rum.
Title: Re: Reb..........? Ellusionist 3rd release sneak peek
Post by: Rob Wright on November 06, 2014, 09:09:09 AM
Rebellion Rum.

Probably so, but the lettering style is slightly different.

From Rebellion Rum web page.
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Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Collector on November 06, 2014, 10:36:21 AM
I wish Ellusionist decided do not produce a nautical deck with the Ace of Spades created by Valentina Badeanu, the designer of the Absinthe’s back.
http://playingcardcollector.net/2014/11/06/ace-of-spades-by-valentina-badeanu/
Title: Re: Reb..........? Ellusionist 3rd release sneak peek
Post by: Don Boyer on November 06, 2014, 12:41:35 PM
Looks like they're not using the standard marketing imagery for Rebellion, opting instead for something that looks like it's from maybe a century ago.  It would fit in with the Absinthe deck.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Don Boyer on November 06, 2014, 12:48:35 PM
I wish Ellusionist decided do not produce a nautical deck with the Ace of Spades created by Valentina Badeanu, the designer of the Absinthe’s back.
http://playingcardcollector.net/2014/11/06/ace-of-spades-by-valentina-badeanu/

Who knows?  E might not print it, but E's not the only deck producer in the world...
Title: Re: Reb..........? Ellusionist 3rd release sneak peek
Post by: Mydnyghte on November 06, 2014, 03:53:45 PM
So maybe a series of alcohol themed cards that come in a wooden crate (think running moonshine) to go along with the Prohibition era? Regardless, interesting direction E is going.
Title: Re: Reb..........? Ellusionist 3rd release sneak peek
Post by: Fess on November 06, 2014, 08:12:59 PM
I agree, it is interesting. I think it's great. I can't wait to induldge in these, and those, and the whole series. ;)
Title: Re: Reb..........? Ellusionist 3rd release sneak peek
Post by: RandyButterfield on November 06, 2014, 11:08:44 PM
Here's an image they posted on Instagram. Definitely their "Carribean Rum" brand of the prohibition collection! It's a cool look and interesting idea (which I saw on FB that Jackson presented to them earlier this year!). For me personally, it's wayyyyy too close to my day job!! After working with these type of packages all day, it's interesting to see something similar pop up in my night "job".

I'll definitely get one of each Deck though.

Thanks, Randy
Title: Re: Reb..........? Ellusionist 3rd release sneak peek
Post by: Don Boyer on November 07, 2014, 12:18:28 AM
I agree, it is interesting. I think it's great. I can't wait to induldge in these, and those, and the whole series. ;)

By all means, induldge away!  (If we write it often enough, perhaps the dictionary will accept it as a variant spelling!)

It reminds me of the shocking discovery that judgement is now an acceptable spelling of judgment and collectable is an acceptable spelling of collectible.  Or maybe I'm getting my dictionaries from the bargain bin a little too often...
Title: Re: "Moon Shine-soothing syrup" ? Ellusionist
Post by: Rob Wright on November 08, 2014, 11:02:29 AM
Based on the coloring, I believe these go with this one.

Quote
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November 6  ·

|| FACES || You've seen some quick peeks at what the new decks look like in their boxes but here's your first look at one of the faces. You'll see EVERYTHING soon!

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Title: Re: "Moon Shine-soothing syrup" ? Ellusionist
Post by: Fess on November 08, 2014, 11:51:15 AM
It's probably just the lighting, but that card stock looks pretty thick to me.
Title: Re: "Moon Shine-soothing syrup" ? Ellusionist
Post by: Rob Wright on November 08, 2014, 12:13:35 PM
It's not a great picture. Probably an optical illusion, but the King looks bowed to me. Similar to the way a cheap deck does.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Collector on November 08, 2014, 04:25:33 PM
I wish Ellusionist decided do not produce a nautical deck with the Ace of Spades created by Valentina Badeanu, the designer of the Absinthe’s back.
http://playingcardcollector.net/2014/11/06/ace-of-spades-by-valentina-badeanu/

Who knows?  E might not print it, but E's not the only deck producer in the world...

Is this an assumption or something more? :)
Title: Re: "Moon Shine-soothing syrup" ? Ellusionist
Post by: Don Boyer on November 09, 2014, 01:30:52 AM
It's probably just the lighting, but that card stock looks pretty thick to me.

It's the lighting and the "cardboard-textured" appearance on the card's surface.  Odds are they'll be no thicker than a pack of Arcanes or something.
Title: Re: ABSINTHE - New E deck
Post by: Don Boyer on November 09, 2014, 02:19:50 AM
I wish Ellusionist decided do not produce a nautical deck with the Ace of Spades created by Valentina Badeanu, the designer of the Absinthe’s back.
http://playingcardcollector.net/2014/11/06/ace-of-spades-by-valentina-badeanu/

Who knows?  E might not print it, but E's not the only deck producer in the world...

Is this an assumption or something more? :)

It's a guess projected into the future...
Title: Re: "Moon Shines" Ellusionist
Post by: Rob Wright on November 10, 2014, 11:09:37 PM
Quote
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|| TAKE A SIP || Here's another 'fresh' look at one of the decks that you'll be able to get your hands on very soon. The 'moon shines' bright at night

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Title: Prohibition 6 Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov 18th)
Post by: Rob Wright on November 11, 2014, 11:20:35 PM
Prohibition Set (http://www.ellusionist.com/prohibition-6-deck-boxed-set-playing-cards.html)

52 Proof Whiskey
(http://www.ellusionist.com/images/countdown/prohibition/52-Proof-Whiskey.jpg)
Absinthe
(http://www.ellusionist.com/images/countdown/prohibition/Absinthe.jpg)
Disparos Tequila
(http://www.ellusionist.com/images/countdown/prohibition/Disparos-Tequila.jpg)
MoonShine
(http://www.ellusionist.com/images/countdown/prohibition/MoonShine.jpg)
Rebellion Rum
(http://www.ellusionist.com/images/countdown/prohibition/Rebellion-Rum.jpg)
WhiteWolf Vodka
(http://www.ellusionist.com/images/countdown/prohibition/WhiteWolf-Vodka.jpg)



I'm merging the other 3 topics with this one
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: bamabenz on November 18, 2014, 11:52:24 PM
Live. $125.
http://www.ellusionist.com/prohibition-6-deck-boxed-set-playing-cards.html (http://www.ellusionist.com/prohibition-6-deck-boxed-set-playing-cards.html)

/bama
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: PurpleIce on November 18, 2014, 11:58:16 PM
Live. $125.
http://www.ellusionist.com/prohibition-6-deck-boxed-set-playing-cards.html (http://www.ellusionist.com/prohibition-6-deck-boxed-set-playing-cards.html)

/bama

Sweet....How the hell do i add to cart?
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: bamabenz on November 19, 2014, 12:02:40 AM
Live. $125.
http://www.ellusionist.com/prohibition-6-deck-boxed-set-playing-cards.html (http://www.ellusionist.com/prohibition-6-deck-boxed-set-playing-cards.html)

/bama

Sweet....How the hell do i add to cart?
Force a refresh so that you get the new page HTML.
Or switch browsers.

/bama
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Rob Wright on November 19, 2014, 12:30:06 AM
Go to main page, then playing cards, then use the quick view to add to cart.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: PurpleIce on November 19, 2014, 01:19:29 AM
Go to main page, then playing cards, then use the quick view to add to cart.

The quick view wasn't working when it first came out. But it's all ok now.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Don Boyer on November 19, 2014, 02:04:36 AM
Because it looks like promotions of alcohol brands, I had no plans to buy any of these decks.  Still, I find it amazing that so many decks are being offered on a limited basis, part of a special set, etc. - you can't simply pay for one deck of, say, Rebellion Rum and call it a day, because they're not being sold individually (or at least not today).  You can get the set for $125, and an extra set minus the wooden box for an extra $40 - but that's it.  Six or nothing, and you have to get at least one wooden box.

It's hard not to think that the level of "elitism", for lack of a better term, is going higher and higher by the release.  This is the first big case of it with a non-crowdfunded project I can recall.  If you know of others, please tell me.

I'm also curious why E decided to make one - just one - of the decks Bicycle-branded.  I thought they pretty much ended that with Arcane, using the Bicycle brand for new designs.  And why just one?  Is it some goofy ploy to entice Bicycle-only collectors to buy the set just for the one deck?  Will it work to any noteworthy degree?
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Paul.Middleton on November 19, 2014, 05:42:34 AM
It's hard not to think that the level of "elitism", for lack of a better term, is going higher and higher by the release.  This is the first big case of it with a non-crowdfunded project I can recall.  If you know of others, please tell me.

It reminds me of the Smoke & Mirror Deluxe Box Set. D&D released them as a box set only until a few months later (I think) when they released them individually with different seals.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Anthony on November 19, 2014, 10:38:47 AM
These will be available individually in the new year, a couple will have a tuck swap, but same cards. An E Rep Posted on UC
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: BiggerDee on November 19, 2014, 10:39:21 AM
I like the set, but I will pass for now. I'm a collector of "elitist" cards, not "elitist" storage boxes :-) , and the box itself adds too much cost to the standard card decks price. While I will pay extra for certain boxes, cool or not, I won't pay that much extra. I also don't care for the mixed portrait/landscape look when on display in the box. Either design them all one way or the other or, ideally, build the box so that they each can be displayed in their proper orientation. I'm a bit OCD like that.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Anthony on November 19, 2014, 10:42:11 AM
I like the set, but I will pass for now. I'm a collector of "elitist" cards, not "elitist" storage boxes :-) , and the box itself adds too much cost to the standard card decks price. While I will pay extra for certain boxes, cool or not, I won't pay that much extra. I also don't care for the mixed portrait/landscape look when on display in the box. Either design them all one way or the other or, ideally, build the box so that they each can be displayed in their proper orientation. I'm a bit OCD like that.

Bigger Dee, that is so funny, it was the 1st thing I noticed and didn't mention it because I thought I was being a little to "Picky" LOL
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: ecNate on November 19, 2014, 11:29:17 AM
You guys aren't the only one bothered by the mix of portrait and landscape decks that are meant to be a set and displayed in a box.  >:(  ;)
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: BiggerDee on November 19, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
Wow, usually I'm all alone out there in my boat! It's nice to have some fellow passengers to talk to! :-))


Hey, if you're going to shell out $125, you have every right to be picky!
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: ecNate on November 19, 2014, 04:52:55 PM
Actually, from posts at UC they seem to be saying that the actual decks will all be portrait, but maybe not until 2nd edition.  Either way it should be changed so you can always swap them out if you need to later:

The decision to change orientation was from Brad. He said when these decks are hanging on a shelf in a store or in a display unit, they're always vertical. So if we have landscape orientation customers won't be able to clearly see the tuck.
...
So are the other 4 vertical? And all 6 will be vertical in the second edition?
...
Yep, all 6 will be the same portrait orientation.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: DarkDerp on November 19, 2014, 05:06:21 PM
Man... I was really excited about these. $125 for 6 decks, a box which (for me) might as well read
 " Here, throw this away for us."  Instead of "Prohibition", and..

Quote
As a Special Offer when you add the Prohibition Set to your cart, you'll be given the opportunity to purchase 6 Extra First Edition Decks that you can safely open and enjoy, allowing you to retain the collector's value of the boxed set.



Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: cbkimble on November 19, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
I'm not interested in the box at all. It's a good way to force people to buy a box that holds only 6 decks. I'm just gonna wait for them to release just decks.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Don Boyer on November 20, 2014, 12:44:29 AM
Oh boy - now there's going to be a first edition and a second edition, subtle differences between the packaging, etc.  A fan boy's dream - or nightmare, depending on your perspective!

The decks are $40 without the box and $125 with.  I don't know if that's an $85 box in my book.  (Granted, you have to buy them with box to get them without box, so maybe some of the costs of the second set are added to the first?)
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: DarkDerp on November 20, 2014, 01:04:31 AM
Oh boy - now there's going to be a first edition and a second edition, subtle differences between the packaging, etc.  A fan boy's dream - or nightmare, depending on your perspective!

The decks are $40 without the box and $125 with.  I don't know if that's an $85 box in my book.  (Granted, you have to buy them with box to get them without box, so maybe some of the costs of the second set are added to the first?)


Where did $40 for the decks from?
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Fess on November 20, 2014, 01:40:34 AM
Oh boy - now there's going to be a first edition and a second edition, subtle differences between the packaging, etc.  A fan boy's dream - or nightmare, depending on your perspective!

The decks are $40 without the box and $125 with.  I don't know if that's an $85 box in my book.  (Granted, you have to buy them with box to get them without box, so maybe some of the costs of the second set are added to the first?)

Where did $40 for the decks from?

If you pick up the box set you have the option of adding the decks only, one time only, for Forty clams. If you do, you can snag a couple free gifts as well. Mini red LTD deck for example is one. I don't remember them all, slept since then.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: DarkDerp on November 20, 2014, 06:16:56 AM
If you pick up the box set you have the option of adding the decks only, one time only, for Forty clams. If you do, you can snag a couple free gifts as well. Mini red LTD deck for example is one. I don't remember them all, slept since then.

Gottcha, thanks buddy.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: agera94 on November 20, 2014, 06:22:02 AM
Picked up a boxed set and the $40 set too :) I was a bit taken back by the production run being fairly limited, but at the same time I can appreciate that a lot of work must have gone into these. Probably explains why they were pumping out DM decks so much; their creative team were all busy making these  ;D
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: John B. on November 29, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
It looks like an interesting set, but I feel that box is over priced.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: piratebear81 on December 02, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
On the 52 proof whiskey deck I think there is a spelling error on the bottom of tuck where it says "aged 21 years play wisley" in a circle. should it be "WISELY" ?  Not that my spelling is any better. I just wanted to point it out.  Maybe I'm wrong..
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Fess on December 02, 2014, 08:00:10 PM
On the 52 proof whiskey deck I think there is a spelling error on the bottom of tuck where it says "aged 21 years play wisley" in a circle. should it be "WISELY" ?  Not that my spelling is any better. I just wanted to point it out.  Maybe I'm wrong..

Haha, nice. We can indudlge in these wisley! I love it. :))
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Don Boyer on December 03, 2014, 04:21:37 AM
On the 52 proof whiskey deck I think there is a spelling error on the bottom of tuck where it says "aged 21 years play wisley" in a circle. should it be "WISELY" ?  Not that my spelling is any better. I just wanted to point it out.  Maybe I'm wrong..

Haha, nice. We can indudlge in these wisley! I love it. :))

Hey, it's only their SECOND misspelling of the series, right?  :))
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: mirciusx on December 03, 2014, 01:51:57 PM
I bought both, the box and the extra pack. Too bad they didn't provide more photos...If the box was nice, like T11 wood engraved boxes, I was thinking to buy another box and an extra pack of 6 decks.

I don't know if is worth it to do another order now (only 5% BC) for another box and an extra pack of 6 just to resell them on ebay Europe or local maybe, just to cut a little from shipping costs which I may say again that are huge (for me). What do you think?

Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Collector on December 03, 2014, 05:45:41 PM
Spirits are spirits.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: mirciusx on December 04, 2014, 01:47:41 AM
I hope to see more photos with the cards and the wood box too. I try to find a review on youtube, but nothing. Anyone?
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: speedyy400 on December 05, 2014, 12:10:17 AM
I hope to see more photos with the cards and the wood box too. I try to find a review on youtube, but nothing. Anyone?

I picked up the box set and the extra 6. Any pictures you want posted specifically? I can take a few and post them here directly.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: mirciusx on December 05, 2014, 12:16:49 AM
Ace, kings, pimps, etc... or just spread them on a pad/table to see how it looks. I'm a little afraid that I bought something I have not seen before. My order is still processing...

Thanks a lot! :)
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: speedyy400 on December 05, 2014, 12:19:24 AM
Sorry I mistook what you had asked for lol I haven't open any of the decks. I'm going to keep them sealed. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: mirciusx on December 05, 2014, 12:33:02 AM
Ah, np. Thanks anyway. I hope someone on the huge internet to take some photos of this decks. I am interested in specially for White Wolf. I read that on 2015 this decks will be sold separately. I don't know if will be a 2nd edition or something different about them.

If someone knows a link to a review on youtube or to some photos, please post it. I am interested to make another order, but I don't know, like I said, if the box worth the money.

speedyy400, at least can you take one or more photos to the wood box or the box is sealed too?
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: speedyy400 on December 05, 2014, 01:01:34 AM
I put a couple of pictures up on Imgur. I'm not quite sure how to send you an invitation to see the album so I'm just going to post what is in my address bar and hope it works lol it won't let me upload here because the picture files are too large.


http://imgur.com/a/Dy0ST#0

I hope that works.


I ended up uploading one more picture. It's another picture of the clasp that keeps it closed. I think it is probably the coolest yet smallest feature of the whole thing. You have to physically move the locking mechanism out of the way before you can open it up. The picture shows me doing so.

http://imgur.com/fVmkJZh
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: mirciusx on December 05, 2014, 09:27:47 AM
Thank you! I saw the photos of the box.

Just a thought, it seems that the box isn't so special and it doesn't worth the money. One box will be enough for me.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: aldazar on December 05, 2014, 09:42:09 AM
Thank you! I saw the photos of the box.

Just a thought, it seems that the box isn't so special and it doesn't worth the money. One box will be enough for me.

Just got mine... Definitely agree - box is not worth the money in the least... Enjoy the decks though... I particularly like the Absinthe backs...
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: speedyy400 on December 05, 2014, 11:41:26 AM
I agree. In hindsight, I probably could have done without it but oh well. Still a very cool set of decks to add to the collection. Helped me get the Inverted Kings in the process.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Rob Wright on December 06, 2014, 11:40:51 AM
Ah, np. Thanks anyway. I hope someone on the huge internet to take some photos of this decks. I am interested in specially for White Wolf. I read that on 2015 this decks will be sold separately. I don't know if will be a 2nd edition or something different about them.

From my understanding, they will be for sale individually. They will be V2's and they all will be vertical tucks. The Disparos, and the Absinthe deck will not be horizontal tucks.

(http://www.ellusionist.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/trailer_thumbnail_image/895x505/0f396e8a55728e79b48334e699243c07/p/r/prohibitionbox3.jpg)
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Anthony on December 09, 2014, 12:30:58 PM
I talked myself out of this purchase not so much because of the cards but the cost of the box....basically not enough bang for my buck. I put the decks at $10 each, which I still think is a little high, but I was being generouse. So $120 for the decks (Grabbing the second set to offset the cost a bit), leaving $45 for the box............eh, wasn't feeling it.

But, I did end up with this set im my collection from my son for my Bday which was the day after release.........the box is not worth it, but it seems just a few things could have made it better. I can see they were trying to stick with the "Theme" but something as simple at moving the "Prohibition" branding to the outside would have been better and even some grooves to simulate a crate woulod have helped. it's a nice little set, don't get me wrong, but when your paying for it, it seems a bit off kilter cost wise.
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: mirciusx on December 09, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
If someone unpacked the White Wolf deck, please post some photos. Mine will arrive in just a few long weeks. Anyway, if someone will make a review will have a lot of views, that's for sure. I guess a lot of people are thinking about paying extra for the box or not. I was thinking to buy another box and extra decks, but...I saw the comments and I change my mind.

I don't understand why is this mysterious thing about this decks...no photos about the cards from this decks on E. It's just a marketing thing to sell the expensive wood box?
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: RandyButterfield on December 09, 2014, 05:23:11 PM
If someone unpacked the White Wolf deck, please post some photos. Mine will arrive in just a few long weeks. Anyway, if someone will make a review will have a lot of views, that's for sure. I guess a lot of people are thinking about paying extra for the box or not. I was thinking to buy another box and extra decks, but...I saw the comments and I change my mind.

I don't understand why is this mysterious thing about this decks...no photos about the cards from this decks on E. It's just a marketing thing to sell the expensive wood box?

It looks like there's photos of all of the Decks' cards on the product page, including the White Wolf Deck (http://www.ellusionist.com/prohibition-6-deck-boxed-set-playing-cards.html). Definitely enough to get an idea of what the rest of the courts and faces look like.

Thanks, Randy
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: mirciusx on December 09, 2014, 06:24:38 PM
 A few days ago, I have not seen those photos before in the bottom of the page. Thank you!
Title: Re: Prohibition 6-Deck Boxed Set from Ellusionist (Nov. 18th)
Post by: Rob Wright on December 09, 2014, 10:17:14 PM
Got mine today. Box definitely not worth it. I could have made one, ten times better.