Handling for the rounders and dealers are pretty much the same. I believe that Jake from E said that indeed many various types of stocks and finishes were tested before coming up with a final combination.
I believe the exact wording was "over 50 different stocks and finishes". To anyone who knows even a little bit about what's available at USPCC, this is a pretty ludicrous statement.
It definitely pushes a fine line and I'm glad that Jake did come in to clear the air about it - the claim is bold.
Actually, it's not impossible. Bill Kalush has told me of many experiments he did with USPC, having them tweak the coating and the stock on particular print runs. I have a few packs that look like ordinary Bikes or Bees from the store but have a wholly unique feel to them because they were one of his experiments. It would be hard to argue that his Bee Squeezers 216 didn't have a unique feel when compared to most other new decks. That was the culmination of some of his experiments.
Boiled down to brass tacks, if you're will to shell out serious coin, USPC will give you what you want. If you're Joe Designer who just completed his first Kickstarter, they not likely to be as accommodating. Daniel Madison having multiple decks made in big volume through a very popular client - that's a big customer.
So just to confirm, all of his decks are indeed marked… Correct?
The Madison Rounders are not marked. They can easily be marked, using the right shade of marker pen, and the black deck has a card back that's reflective enough that you can use it as a shiner to reveal mirror images of card indices as the cards are being dealt.
The other two decks by him, the Dealers and the Players, are indeed marked decks.
up to now: 1. Madison Player (Marked) corporated with T11
2. Rounders Series (Normal) - Black/Red/Brown/Blue, Red & Blue are limited when Black & Brown not
3. Madison Dealer Series (Marked) - Green/Red, Red limited (like lots of Red ones of Ellu 
) and Green not
I could say "Trick deck" that's use for tricks (gimmick deck,gaffs) when "Marked deck" is a part of Trick Deck. most of trick deck cant be check by audience but 2: Marked/Reading Deck and Stripper Deck.
abt quality, Player used same quality of Sentinel v1 i think (Q1 quality, Air Cushion Finish). when Rounders and Dealers are made from Bee Stock and Magic Finish (dont think E had used Perfomance Coating for these because they are thinner than other decks of E's), correct me if i'm wrong ^_^
Slow down there, Tex - I'm not entirely sure of what you're trying to say here.
I will say this: The Players made with T11 are not the same stock and finish as the original Sentinels - the Sentinels had a terrible problem with getting clumpy after only a short period of use. Recently, T11 gave the Sentinels a slight update, with minor changes to the design and major changes to the handling, including the use of Magic Finish - they never gave it a new version number; to them it was simply a new, improved print run, much like how they didn't make a Monarchs v2 when they made the back border thinner. They used to name simple box redesigns as version 2 and it started pissing collectors off - they were wise enough to take note.
If there's any deck that would match the stock and finish of the Players, that newer print run of Sentinels would be the deck.
"Performance Coating" is just the original code name for Magic Finish before it went into wide release. E was approached about trying it out on a new deck to see how it performed, so they used it on the Gold Arcane decks - they're merely labeled "Air Cushion Finish", but they were in fact the first mass-produced deck to use Magic Finish. After the product was released as "Magic Finish" as an option to USPC clients, Ellusionist opted to use the original name for the finish, as they felt it was a bit classier - and I agree, it is. They've also called it "Performance Finish" on at least one deck.
By the time the Players were released with T11, all custom decks were offered Magic Finish as the default finish, not as an option. You have to actually request the standard coating if you don't want Magic Finish on your custom deck order. Many MF-coated decks don't list the correct coating - but it's generally for marketing purposes only. I've seen it called "Air Cushion", "Cambric", "Premium" and even "Ivory" on one or two decks, the first of which being the Bee Black/Silver Acorn Backs. (One of the reasons for developing Magic Finish was to counter the negative impact that metallic inks were having on deck performance.) To know for certain when a deck has Magic Finish, smell it when you first open it - Magic Finish has a sharper and stronger chemical odor than standard finish does.
As far as Rounders and Dealers being thinner or thicker than any other E deck, stocks do have variances in their thickness - of the two basic options offered, Bicycle and Bee Casino, the ranges actually overlap, meaning you can have Bee stock decks that are thinner than some Bicycle stock decks and some Bike stock decks thicker than some Bees. Comparing the precise thickness between the decks is an exercise in futility, because even within the same print run there can be thickness variations. Why USPC went off the standard measure of grams per square meter (gsm or g/m
2) is beyond me.
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