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Playing Card Plethora / Re: About Stock and Embossing of the USPCC
« on: October 02, 2018, 01:17:22 AM »
Thanks Don. Yeah, I couldn't find any info online about whether the Turner decks being sold now are Erlanger or Ohio. If they were Erlanger, it would give us a clue that they were another batch.

Interesting, first I've heard that Tallys had their own stock. Was this in the Ohio-made era? Or before that time (ie. pre- move to Erlanger?).

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: About Stock and Embossing of the USPCC
« on: September 30, 2018, 08:56:43 AM »
Yeah, I'm aware that Turner's Gold Decks aren't new. I have a stock of them from when they were first released. But, I have been out of the game for several years - does he still produce them? And if so, are the newer ones no longer on Casino stock? That I don't know, and I couldn't find info elsewhere on this either.

Out of curiosity, what kind of Bicycle deck were you thinking of havine made?

I guess they decided to lock down the Bicycle branding even down to the stock huh.

I wasn't aware that Bicycle had its own casino grade stock. What decks were made with this separate casino stock, do you happen to know?

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: About Stock and Embossing of the USPCC
« on: September 29, 2018, 10:40:02 AM »
Thanks Don!

Great information as always.

As far as poor registration/centering goes, THAT'S something I encountered in decks going all the way back to the 80's for sure. Think no run of cards was immune as far as I've used them.

Interesting re: the post-consumer content, and ink changes. Makes sense then why they pushed the Magic finish. Thanks for that tidbit of info.

Wait: they don't allow Casino stock for Bicycle cards anymore? Is this due to a marketing decision? What about Richard Turner's Gold Seals? They were supposed to be Bee Casino stock in Bicycle yeah?

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Hey Ender - yup, they have returned to the same pattern on front and back, though I think the decks are still not as thick or robust as my mid-90's decks.

That's cool about the Cartamundi B9 True Linen. I've heard also that the Jerry's Nuggets got their legendary feel from different pattern on front and back too. Maybe I should have kept some of those front/back different Bikes!

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Thanks EndersGame (greetings from TheMagicCafe!) and Don!

Do you guys happen to know when USPCC moved from cloth rolled finish to embossing on the card itself?

And, did either of you notice in the mid 1990's, Bikes going from having a full square pattern air-cushion finish embossing, to one side having the squares, and the other side having lines? There was a period where all the Bikes I got were like the latter, and the decks were thinner, some even came with a set curve out of the box, and warped easier, etc. Just felt lower quality overall.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: About Stock and Embossing of the USPCC
« on: September 27, 2018, 09:29:19 AM »
Don, thanks for your post above, I know it was over a year ago but it was helpful to read!

Do you remember the Conjuring Arts decks? Their smooth one they called "Ivory Finish." Guessing that was just marketing for the same smooth finish that would have been on the old Aviators, etc. huh.

Didn't realize that about the forcible use of set %-age of post-consumer content. Do you know when this came about? I guess it lends another factor to why blue seals / Ohio-made may be better.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: First run of black tiger deck (white pip)
« on: September 27, 2018, 09:12:56 AM »
Hey all,

First post here. Love that I found a bunch of card nerds like me =)

So I have a bunch of what I believe are 2nd run BT's. They are:
1. Red curlicues, no barcode, say "AIR CUSHION"
2. White curlicues, no barcode, say "AIR CUSHION"
They're not first runs, because the white 808 has the dash (808-), and because red.

But, they don't say performance coating, but say air-cushion, but aren't barcode...so, are these UV500?

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