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I had someone contact me asking where they can purchase the Stockholm17 decks and how much they cost, since that info wasn't included in my review.

Decks like these typically cost around $15.  Not all of the decks reviewed above are readily available right now, but RarePlayingCards has some of the Stockholm17 playing cards in stock for around that price range...

I still have a few of the original #17 "CardLauncher" decks for $25 on UCdecksales.com

There are three more uncuts for the Dondorf Hundertjahrkarte restoration deck, and some Dondorf restoration deck sets, also. The uncuts are only available until Monday, when I have to specify quantity.

Here are a few courts Lotrek restored:

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Thanks for dropping by, Mike.  I always look forward to Lotrek's work.
Always, PT. I announced yesterday that the Kickstarter campaign launches at 2PM Saturday April 22nd.

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Keeping my friends here apprised of this project, I wanted to post a note about the impending crowdfunding campaign for this project, because the limit of 250 sets isn't that many.

These will be done wirh true old world craftsmanship, but I won't repeat everything here, details are in this thread on UC: ]https://unitedcardists.com/viewtopic.php?t=9476"]

Please post inquiries there.

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Thanks!  Several several designers are using them for their signature / private reserve decks, and I just shipped Bill Kalush 50 for Conjuring Arts displays in Manhattan.

They really "dress up" a deck, with or without a tuck.  We're looking at custom orders for 2- 3- &  4- deck formats, expect to hear more from a PCF favorite soon.

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No doubt about that, Don.  Most states likely never anticipated our contemporary business paradigm that included a lot of shipment of decks (amongst many other things) from Kickstarter (and even Amazon).  I'd hate to have to get Alabama to make a definitive ruling on where the line is drawn between it being a 'deck' and something else - i.e. meaning that 55+ cards is not a deck.

Interestingly enough, Amazon has three processing / shipping centers in SC, and we don't pay state taxes on purchases from them even now, although of course the state made all sorts of tax concessions to get them located here.  We're supposed to report the amount of online un-taxed purchases we make on an annual basis as a "Use Tax", but for all practical purposes, it doesn't happen.  Amazon does not report it to the state.  South Carolina has some interesting taxes, like the maximum $300 for an automobile, whether it's a $5000 or $150,000 variety.

I do know that SC hasn't had tax stamps on playing card decks for at least 35 years, though.  The last time I remember seeing them on decks for sale here was about late 1970's, maybe a few years before that, and those could have been decks that had stamps on them affixed before the tax was repealed.  I know it was still in effect when I graduated from High School in 1972.  It wasn't in 1982 because I had some made for my father's Pizza Hut restaurants in South Carolina when we opened a second one in Myrtle Beach.

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One of those 'odd-ball' taxes that likely is still on the books due to some morality issue, I suppose.  I've seen it misinterpreted two different ways, one saying that there is no tax on decks with more than 54 cards, not true - it's more than 10 cents in that case.  I've also seen a claim once that the seller paid $1 as well, again, not true.  They do have to pay $3 (used to be $2) for a license to sell them (i.e. in order to affix the tax stamps).

I can't find the statute to tell you exactly what the cost for 55 or more cards is, but what I have seen it 20 cents.  I don't know if that is the correct amount or just the (im)practical side of enforcement.

Now, the thought comes that all of the KS (and similar) project campaigns that deliver decks to Alabama are likely breaking that law - but I guess we have to assume that nobody cares unless you are selling them IN (from?) Alabama.  They started using this tax in the mid 1930's.  South Carolina used to have an 8 cent tax on each deck (not limited by a specific number of cards), but it went "out of style" in the late 60's or early 70's, but even living in SC, I can't find the precise date is was rescinded.

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Don, the story has been told two albeit similar ways, and I agree that someone likely saw the opportunity to cash in on their demise. Google is your friend, as always these days.

Tom, it would be quite interesting to see the list, and I found another sealed one in blue. Obviously not that rare, but not well known, either. Interesting find. U N Co branding on the tuck and backs is unusual though - at least not something I have seen other than a very few advertising type decks.

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Yes, standard AoS, "shield & wreath Joker and plain Jane "Second Joker" with stars in the corner.

No codes on AoS or anywhere I can find. I think we're spot on the origin.  Could have been a news stand in the building - now called "30 Rock" or "G.E.Building" (and had a deal with the Rainbow Room to cut costs).

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Can anyone help ID this pair of decks? It says New York Consolidated but cancelled CDC (Consolidated Dougherty?) and the open (blue) one has a Rainbow Room advertising card inside.

The side script says "The Union News Company" - I think, hard to read. The card says "RCA Building" so maybe that helps date it? I am guessing that they were sold in the gift shop about 60 years ago, just judging by the style.

My research show that company went out of business in 1956 or 57 depending on what source you believe.

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I put one red MailChimp deck up on eBay.  I have never seen one for sale...

There is no damage on the right, it's glare from the flash.

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Awesome! Pictures are worth 1000 words, as they say.  I don't recall ever seeing one packaged that way.

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I thought the same thing, Don. The quote is from Kemcards.net run by Bryburry. It seems like USPCC would stomp all over them if it's not legitimate, and they accurately reflect that 2 year period between 2004 & 2006 when USPCC let the brand just sit stale, until they got the deal with WSOP.

My guess was simply based on the copyright date of 1935. It doesn't seem reasonable that the copyright date is the first year that they did business, but further attempts to narrow down the first deck they produced don't turn up anything, which in itself is odd.

I just found that site on Wednesday trying to dig up more information, so I agree it's entirely suspect.

Curious, frankly...

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It's not Century of Progress, and in fact has the ©1935 AoS: (and branded Neillite on the bottom)

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If the company wasn't founded until 1935, why would Kem make a deck set for the '33-'34 World's Fair in Chicago?
The same thing crossed my mind, so I went hunting and found that date is the date used on the copyright of their Ace of Spades, but their own website states that they started producing cards in the "first half of the 1930's".  I'll see if I can find a picture of those decks, they might well be for something else or perhaps made as a production sample.  That was my gut feeling - that it looked like that logo.  Maybe not?  I think I ran into the picture recently.  Let me see if I can dig it up.

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You're the first person I have ever seen call it Neillite, which of course - it is.  The only other example I have ever seen is a pair of KEM Chicago World's Fair decks that had the silver badge missing from the case and was listed for $500.  As I recall, it did not sell.  That was 1933-34, if memory serves me well.

Neillite is Bakelite, made by Neill Co in Britain.

No bleeding of the red on my decks, though.

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It is Chapter 16 CDN15a with the generic Ace rather than  the Bicycle Ace. Another variation!
Excellent!  Good eyes, I always recognize when something is "different".

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Yes, six colors all together.  I found this on Cypressfilms.com

(with a note that the rarest was the six deck set.)

I'm using my new e-book format, maybe just in the wrong quarter of the book?

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Does your deck have colored edges?
Yep, it does have colored edges, and looks exactly like the USPCC-branded Bridge 888 decks I have found online over the past two days, except it's branded "International" and the AoS appears to be different.

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A friend came across this yesterday, and I can't find much about it.

"V" date code, which is not in the table, but falls in the range, since there is a (C} 1932. It's an art deco with multicolor Joker:

Bridge deck, I don't find in Hochmans?

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Ask the Experts at 52 Plus Joker
« on: November 07, 2014, 07:50:11 PM »
"Old Gypsy" is Whitman, as I recall?

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Design & Development / Re: Print 5000 Custom Decks and Delivered @ $4600
« on: August 17, 2014, 11:14:30 AM »
No ofense, but I still need to say SORRY first.
It is really difficult for me to be proud to tell my fellow collectors : "look, these decks are made in India..." :-\
Dredging up an old topic, I know, but - seriously?  A Heidelberg press is a Heidelberg press whether it's sitting in India, Taipei or Erlanger.  Now, I have to agree with the other comment that a 2-color deck just doesn't cut it any more, we're looking at 10- or 12-color process right now with Chromografix, and have permission from CartaMundi to do a restoration of the Dondorf #1000 "Hundertjahrkarte" in German or "Centennial") deck that broke the company.  They have been reprinted before - with different backs that are very simple as opposed to the original 28 stone (essentially what we call 'plates' these days) having 16-color faces and 12-color backs.  The addition of metallic gold inks actually might make a truly stunning deck!  Restoration is a pains-taking process, but after a few months we should have something to show for it.  You can't just take 1000dpi scans and print the darned things, heck - 50,000,000 dpi just won't work.  It's like taking an UHD TV and showing a VHS movie.  But, that's where we are starting.  The last original deck of Dondorf #1000 I saw sold (last month on ebay.com) went for $1699.  Those reprints I mentioned were done in the 60's (I think) by Waddington's in London called "Royal Gothic" and then A.S.S. (not even going to try today, I'm a bit weary) in 1975, but both as I said have a very simplistic 4-color (CMYK) process red or blue back.

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Card Launcher....... Launches at 12:01 AM EDT on 08/15/2014  (think late Thursday night East Coast USA)

A message from Mike on Cardlauncher's facebook
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We decided to unlock the door two hours early, so people have time to register and activate their account by clicking on the link that gets sent to the email address you use. Once you have activated your account, you can log in completely. Decks will still launch at 12:01AM just like we announced, but starting at 10PM tomorrow night (Thursday, the 14th) you can register. Note that Social Media login (using Facebook or Twitter credentials) is purposefully disabled so we can collect all the information we need.

 We'll see you there!

Mike, Is this the right link?
https://www.cardlauncher.com/en
Yes, that is correct.  Open for registration tomorrow at 10PM EDT/7PM PDT and playing card deck project campaigns funding at 12:01AM EDT/9:01PM PST.

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I put my $12 on Great Northern. Strange how so much shows up after so few for a long time. As usual, as soon as I looked at the picture I thought "should have gotten a back with Julia Wades-on-Water in the groupong", but. . .

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: How to Date a Thomas de la Rue Deck
« on: July 16, 2014, 07:15:43 AM »
Sounds good, but remember that I said "unfortunately it doesn't always work". Some decks reused older fonts and it's impossible to tell the precise date on those. The ones that used their standard letter format for the courts can be narrowed down to a 5-20 year period in general and we're already mostly at that point.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: How to Date a Thomas de la Rue Deck
« on: July 15, 2014, 10:39:38 PM »
Ah, forgot to mention - 1947 is correct, but still narrows it to right at a 10 year period.

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