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PlayingKards · « **Reply #50 on:** February 14, 2013, 01:07:45 AM »

The release and full trailer will be out this friday according to his latest teaser of the cards.

Frost · « **Reply #51 on:** February 14, 2013, 02:08:32 AM »

In the latest teaser video i saw. The Fontaine deck will be limited only 2500 were made. It will not be sold in the theory11 website it is going to be sold at fontainecards.com .

Don Boyer · « **Reply #52 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:06:32 AM »

The more I'm hearing about this deck, the more I'm losing interest. You'd think it would be the opposite, but no. All this hype for a deck that doesn't look terribly innovative or even interesting...not for me.

MrMollusk · « **Reply #53 on:** February 14, 2013, 07:50:47 PM »

Box revealed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MotJtc6Jn4c

Fanofyankees13 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 14, 2013, 08:30:49 PM »

Bleh.....I'm with Don on this one. Progressively losing interest the more I see. Looking like a pass for me on these.

Utterfool · « **Reply #55 on:** February 14, 2013, 08:38:39 PM »

Every time I read the name of this deck I just keep thinking Bioshock and although It was a very good game and the decks is done is a "classic" casino style which would fit the game, I just can't bring myself to want to buy the deck.
In the end much as Ace Fulton's casino was ugly and Jerry's nuggets are ugly (this is obviosly my opinion and I know there are other reasons to own a Jerrys) The Fontaine deck is ugly.
The NOC deck was simple yes, but I didn't see it as ugly I think the simple solid back may be more pleasing to me than a simple solid back broken up by a not to innovative and simple motif.

The nail in the coffin for me though was the use of the word "Supreme" on the box. I don't know why but it irks me

Benjam · « **Reply #56 on:** February 15, 2013, 02:27:43 AM »

I agree! I hate the fact he used "supreme" cause it reminds me of those stupid supreme hats that all those hipsters wear... thats just what bugs me about it xD

As for the overall deck of cards, I personally like the design and MIGHT consider picking up 1 or 2 of these decks... but what I don't understand is why everyone is getting SO hyped up about a deck of cards which they know NOTHING about... I mean, so far the advertisement has been purely design-based, there is no mentioning of how the cards will handle, which is the most important thing! All these fanboys are getting hyped over a nice looking deck of cards but they have no idea if they have smooth or air cushioned finish, what kind of stock its printed on and everything else like that. If we don't find anything out about the handling of the cards before Zach releases them, we'll just have to assume they're standard bikes with a customised back, ace of spades, box and jokers... if that's the case, its simply not worth buying them.

Quote from: Utterfool on February 14, 2013, 08:38:39 PM

Every time I read the name of this deck I just keep thinking Bioshock and although It was a very good game and the decks is done is a "classic" casino style which would fit the game, I just can't bring myself to want to buy the deck.
In the end much as Ace Fulton's casino was ugly and Jerry's nuggets are ugly (this is obviosly my opinion and I know there are other reasons to own a Jerrys) The Fontaine deck is ugly.
The NOC deck was simple yes, but I didn't see it as ugly I think the simple solid back may be more pleasing to me than a simple solid back broken up by a not to innovative and simple motif.

The nail in the coffin for me though was the use of the word "Supreme" on the box. I don't know why but it irks me

rave · « **Reply #57 on:** February 15, 2013, 07:35:51 AM »

Now "Available"

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/337480

Paul.Middleton · « **Reply #58 on:** February 15, 2013, 07:38:04 AM »

The email states they are available for purchase, and takes you to Indiegogo.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/337480

Am I the only one that feels slightly misled? I assumed this wasn't a crowdfunding project from the marketing and that the cards were printed, clearly I was wrong.

One deck for $12.

Pacis · « **Reply #59 on:** February 15, 2013, 07:49:46 AM »

That is definitely odd...
Let's see what will they say in the next email.

sinsandman · « **Reply #60 on:** February 15, 2013, 11:18:59 AM »

Screw this mess. I may have picked up a couple, one for use one for seal. However, with the hype leading up to its "purchase" release and that clearly not being the case, as well as the price tag of a deck far better than this one....I'm out. Not only out, but completely against this sack of bs.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #61 on:** February 15, 2013, 01:42:38 PM »

OK, so here's what we've got.

No involvement with Theory11 - check.
Boring, uninspired back design - check.
Boring, even less inspired jokers and AoS - check.
USPC standard faces, right down to the colors - check.

So far, a pack of Bike Standards has more appeal to me than this - ESPECIALLY at this price tag.

Quote from: Benjam on February 15, 2013, 02:27:43 AM

All these fanboys are getting hyped over a nice looking deck of cards but they have no idea if they have smooth or air cushioned finish, what kind of stock its printed on and everything else like that.

Well, here's the likely (in fact ONLY) possibilities in terms of handling.

Bike stock, smooth, Magic Finish
Bike stock, textured, Magic Finish
Bee stock, smooth, Magic Finish
Bee stock, textured, Magic Finish

Notice a common element among those choices? It's "the great equalizer" in USPC custom deck-making - any deck with MF will perform like silk out of the box. Every custom deck project gets MF by default, and I seriously doubt that Mueller will request standard finish. There's little to differentiate custom decks any more in terms of performance, at least not decks from USPC. So now, it is mostly about the design. And that design is as exciting as watching dirty dishwater drain from the sink...

Pacis · « **Reply #62 on:** February 15, 2013, 02:40:39 PM »

Yes, I'm not backing it too.
Btw, 30 days before the end, and more than half of the amout needed is already raised.

reckone1999 · « **Reply #63 on:** February 15, 2013, 02:42:45 PM »

i personally love the look of these cards. i l'm a HUGE fan of minimalism and hate so many recent releases that this deck is one of the few that i really like. i love the vibrant red and blue, and how the skinny lettering makes the back of the card look fat. i'm surprised more people don't like these. if you are a fan of the way jerry's or wynn's look this shouldn't be too much of a stretch from those decks. i will however admit that i'm not too fond of the ace of spades, but other than that, everything else is fine, and the back looks elegant to me at least i even like the box. but ... to each his own.

Pacis · « **Reply #64 on:** February 15, 2013, 02:49:13 PM »

You do seem to not have read the last posts.

reckone1999 · « **Reply #65 on:** February 15, 2013, 03:50:39 PM »

in fact i have read them, i just disagree.

i don't find it boring, and by contrast i don't find heavy embellishment or busy backgrounds interesting.

what i do find interesting is how many people claim to like the noc deck, but find these to be boring by comparison.

but then again, i realize all of this is subjective anyway so . . . yea

Joker and the Thief · « **Reply #66 on:** February 15, 2013, 05:34:41 PM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on February 15, 2013, 01:42:38 PM

OK, so here's what we've got.

No involvement with Theory11 - check.
Boring, uninspired back design - check.
Boring, even less inspired jokers and AoS - check.
USPC standard faces, right down to the colors - check.

So far, a pack of Bike Standards has more appeal to me than this - ESPECIALLY at this price tag.

Quote from: Benjam on February 15, 2013, 02:27:43 AM
All these fanboys are getting hyped over a nice looking deck of cards but they have no idea if they have smooth or air cushioned finish, what kind of stock its printed on and everything else like that.

Well, here's the likely (in fact ONLY) possibilities in terms of handling.

Bike stock, smooth, Magic Finish
Bike stock, textured, Magic Finish
Bee stock, smooth, Magic Finish
Bee stock, textured, Magic Finish

Notice a common element among those choices? It's "the great equalizer" in USPC custom deck-making - any deck with MF will perform like silk out of the box. Every custom deck project gets MF by default, and I seriously doubt that Mueller will request standard finish. There's little to differentiate custom decks any more in terms of performance, at least not decks from USPC. So now, it is mostly about the design. And that design is as exciting as watching dirty dishwater drain from the sink...

Zach said they were Bike Stock and I'm thinking its going to be a textured finish. I personally quite like the back design, the ace of spades is alright as well. The jokers seem to be a plain un-interesting design. He could've definitely added some value to the design by recolouring the courts. The box. Yes I know it's made for the vintage holdout but no it's quite ugly. That was a slip slop job and the potential for a really nice box could've been taken advantage of...

Didn't do it for me, but I'm glad to see its doing alright.

KPopFever605 · « **Reply #67 on:** February 15, 2013, 11:26:21 PM »

Meh. The decks seem average to me. Especially for the high price tag. And, I just laughed hard when I saw "supreme back".

Joker and the Thief · « **Reply #68 on:** February 16, 2013, 01:50:43 AM »

Aaaaaaaaaaand funded! $10,059 as of this post.

Benjam · « **Reply #69 on:** February 16, 2013, 02:59:11 AM »

I actually agree with you

I too am a fan of the minimalism, I really like the design of the backs, and I'm alright with the jokers and ace of spades.... but like we've all been saying, its simply not worth it haha
Also, the page says that they have "linen finish", but who knows what that is like... would it be the same as the finish on the aristocrat banknotes? I dunno haha

Anyways, I'm a big fan of Zach Mueller, I think he's got a lot of talent, and since he's my age, I have a lot of respect for the way he's already building a career for himself in magic by working for T11 and all the rest of it.
BUT, I agree with what most of you guys are saying in terms of usability vs price tag, SO I'm gonna have to give these a miss...
Just my two cents

Quote from: reckone1999 on February 15, 2013, 02:42:45 PM

i personally love the look of these cards. i l'm a HUGE fan of minimalism and hate so many recent releases that this deck is one of the few that i really like. i love the vibrant red and blue, and how the skinny lettering makes the back of the card look fat. i'm surprised more people don't like these. if you are a fan of the way jerry's or wynn's look this shouldn't be too much of a stretch from those decks. i will however admit that i'm not too fond of the ace of spades, but other than that, everything else is fine, and the back looks elegant to me at least i even like the box. but ... to each his own.

BiggerDee · « **Reply #70 on:** May 02, 2013, 09:22:24 AM »

USPCC has a tuck printing quality issue with the Fontaine decks...

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hCNzT0RZg0&feature=player_embedded

USPCC has a quality issue and instead of this creator running and hiding like so many KS folks who run into problems do, he's out front, and open about it, and is doing what he can to make things better. As a backer, I applaud his efforts. He doesn't fix the situation completely, but he does what he can to make things right, and keeps us updated. I have read the horror stories about KS decks never arriving, and about other campaigns with no updates and no product. Do what you can, but be open about it. People can be understanding if you just give them the opportunity to, and keep them in the loop. Hats off to Zach for not just an e-mail, but a video update!

MrMollusk · « **Reply #71 on:** May 02, 2013, 07:11:15 PM »

Quote from: BiggerDee on May 02, 2013, 09:22:24 AM

USPCC has a tuck printing quality issue with the Fontaine decks...

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hCNzT0RZg0&feature=player_embedded

USPCC has a quality issue and instead of this creator running and hiding like so many KS folks who run into problems do, he's out front, and open about it, and is doing what he can to make things better. As a backer, I applaud his efforts. He doesn't fix the situation completely, but he does what he can to make things right, and keeps us updated. I have read the horror stories about KS decks never arriving, and about other campaigns with no updates and no product. Do what you can, but be open about it. People can be understanding if you just give them the opportunity to, and keep them in the loop. Hats off to Zach for not just an e-mail, but a video update!

Every project I backed that had a mass printing error announced it immediately. Plus, I don't think a tiny, non-prominent smudge is going to do any harm.

Now the Bohemia deck. The USPCC REALLY screwed up their deck. Multiple times. But when they finally got it right, the end project was unbelievably good. It remains one of my favorite decks.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #72 on:** May 02, 2013, 08:18:17 PM »

Quote from: MrMollusk on May 02, 2013, 07:11:15 PM

Quote from: BiggerDee on May 02, 2013, 09:22:24 AM
USPCC has a tuck printing quality issue with the Fontaine decks...

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hCNzT0RZg0&feature=player_embedded

USPCC has a quality issue and instead of this creator running and hiding like so many KS folks who run into problems do, he's out front, and open about it, and is doing what he can to make things better. As a backer, I applaud his efforts. He doesn't fix the situation completely, but he does what he can to make things right, and keeps us updated. I have read the horror stories about KS decks never arriving, and about other campaigns with no updates and no product. Do what you can, but be open about it. People can be understanding if you just give them the opportunity to, and keep them in the loop. Hats off to Zach for not just an e-mail, but a video update!

Every project I backed that had a mass printing error announced it immediately. Plus, I don't think a tiny, non-prominent smudge is going to do any harm.

Now the Bohemia deck. The USPCC REALLY screwed up their deck. Multiple times. But when they finally got it right, the end project was unbelievably good. It remains one of my favorite decks.

They aren't the only recent deck that had to deal with USPC glitches. Coterie Bee had plenty.

As errors go, this one's pretty minor. Minor, but still unbelievable - I sometimes think Q1 must translate to English as "eh, it's good enough..."

MrMollusk · « **Reply #73 on:** May 02, 2013, 08:53:15 PM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on May 02, 2013, 08:18:17 PM

Quote from: MrMollusk on May 02, 2013, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: BiggerDee on May 02, 2013, 09:22:24 AM
USPCC has a tuck printing quality issue with the Fontaine decks...

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hCNzT0RZg0&feature=player_embedded

USPCC has a quality issue and instead of this creator running and hiding like so many KS folks who run into problems do, he's out front, and open about it, and is doing what he can to make things better. As a backer, I applaud his efforts. He doesn't fix the situation completely, but he does what he can to make things right, and keeps us updated. I have read the horror stories about KS decks never arriving, and about other campaigns with no updates and no product. Do what you can, but be open about it. People can be understanding if you just give them the opportunity to, and keep them in the loop. Hats off to Zach for not just an e-mail, but a video update!

Every project I backed that had a mass printing error announced it immediately. Plus, I don't think a tiny, non-prominent smudge is going to do any harm.

Now the Bohemia deck. The USPCC REALLY screwed up their deck. Multiple times. But when they finally got it right, the end project was unbelievably good. It remains one of my favorite decks.

They aren't the only recent deck that had to deal with USPC glitches. Coterie Bee had plenty.

As errors go, this one's pretty minor. Minor, but still unbelievable - I sometimes think Q1 must translate to English as "eh, it's good enough..."

HAHAHAHA!

Oh, jeeze. I wonder what decks were printed without Q1 quality control. Those would be some really hilarious misprints.

BiggerDee · « **Reply #74 on:** May 03, 2013, 08:53:45 AM »

I've seen a lot of deck designs on KS that would be IMPROVED with multiple misprints!! :-)