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Title: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Rose on October 31, 2014, 01:14:29 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8u7tmQO.jpg)
Best Brick/Half-Brick Box of 2014
This is for printed "traditional" paper or cardboard only Bricks.

Nominated, not Seconded:
White & Obsidian Ornates by Randy Butterfield/HOPC

Nominated AND Seconded:
Hotcakes by Uusi
Boardwalk Papers by Randy Butterfield/The Blue Crown
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: bamabenz on November 02, 2014, 09:52:57 PM
Uusi Hotcakes Brick box, dirty limerick and all
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0109/0212/products/hotcakes_brick5_grande.jpg?v=1406065110)
/bama
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Card Player on November 02, 2014, 11:09:55 PM
withdrawn of future consideration
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: bamabenz on November 02, 2014, 11:16:24 PM
I don't mean to imply anything negative about Bloodlines. I have several Empire decks, and backed the Bloodlines campaign and look forward to getting my rewards, including a Warrior.

Its just that a December promise date may be hard to keep, and the last update stated finally, the Warrior is a go, which gives me pause.

I have received my Hotcakes brick boxes, and have bought more from the uusi.us website.

/bama

Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Anderson on November 03, 2014, 12:30:21 AM
Heretic Playing Cards by Requiem Team
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/002/162/372/577f47314f596a4a3792fae86a9794bf_large.jpg?1403109832)
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Don Boyer on November 03, 2014, 04:30:54 AM

I saw that you nominated hotcakes a few times. Because we are questioning empire bloodlines I wanted to know, has Hotcakes shipped yet?

As of August 15, they shipped to over 70% of all their backers - only certain, more complex rewards haven't been shipped yet.  It's also for sale at http://uusi.us in both colors.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: bamabenz on November 03, 2014, 11:35:59 AM
Sherlock Holmes Kings Wild
Ooooo. I forgot about this box! I got one and it does hold a half brick!

I second this!

Hey Don/Rose, can I second someone else's nomination if I nominated something else?

/bama
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Card Player on November 03, 2014, 03:49:00 PM
I will second Heretic Playing Cards by Requiem Team
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Fess on November 03, 2014, 07:40:17 PM
Heretic hasn't shipped yet, I think it's still a month to a month and a half out. I agree it's very sharp, I'm excited to get mine. ;D

There are several very nice brick boxes this year. The Ornate brick boxes and Boardwalk Papers are some stand outs in my opinion. Holding off on my nomination until I have the Steampunk Bandits and Heretic brick boxes in hand. I like the Imperial half brick boxes too, but I can't remember if those were in January or made a late December release last year.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Don Boyer on November 04, 2014, 02:52:11 AM
Sherlock Holmes Kings Wild
Ooooo. I forgot about this box! I got one and it does hold a half brick!

I second this!

Hey Don/Rose, can I second someone else's nomination if I nominated something else?

/bama

You can nominate just one deck - but you can second as many as you like.

I'm just wondering if something wooden like that would qualify as a half-brick box or as an accessory.  What are your opinions on this, fellow members?  When I was thinking half-brick and brick, I was thinking of the standard industry box size, shape and composition - but it's not like I made that terribly clear, either.

Just so you know - if you want to make a push to have something changed, please let me or Rose know.  Certain things - like allowing a deck that won't deliver before year's end - would be completely rejected, but this is your forum and your awards.  Ideas are welcome.  Post any non-category specific ideas in the main sticky topic on this board.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Anthony on November 04, 2014, 07:01:53 AM
I think if it holds 6 or 12 decks it should be eligible, I see what you mean as far as, would this be considered an accessory, but it's not a "Display" box in reality, it is storage, which is the basic function of a brick box. Just my thoughts  :)
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Fess on November 04, 2014, 08:08:36 AM
Printed paper tends to be the material used for playing card brick boxes. That's kind of an important element in my mind when I think "Brick Box". Otherwise it's a box, you can fit 12 decks in or in this case, six. Still, it's not a "Brick Box" to me. Just how I see it.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: aldazar on November 04, 2014, 09:05:59 AM
Heretic Playing Cards by Requiem Team
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/002/162/372/577f47314f596a4a3792fae86a9794bf_large.jpg?1403109832)
I personally dislike the "theme" of this deck, but the brick box is by far the most beautiful I've ever seen!

Seconded, if it hasn't been already!
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: PurpleIce on November 04, 2014, 09:42:34 AM
Sherlock Holmes Kings Wild
Ooooo. I forgot about this box! I got one and it does hold a half brick!

I second this!

Hey Don/Rose, can I second someone else's nomination if I nominated something else?

/bama

You can nominate just one deck - but you can second as many as you like.

I'm just wondering if something wooden like that would qualify as a half-brick box or as an accessory.  What are your opinions on this, fellow members?  When I was thinking half-brick and brick, I was thinking of the standard industry box size, shape and composition - but it's not like I made that terribly clear, either.

Just so you know - if you want to make a push to have something changed, please let me or Rose know.  Certain things - like allowing a deck that won't deliver before year's end - would be completely rejected, but this is your forum and your awards.  Ideas are welcome.  Post any non-category specific ideas in the main sticky topic on this board.

I'm just wondering if we could have printed paper brick boxes in this category and wooden boxes in another, either with accessories, or a stand alone by itself. I have a wooden box that could hold 3 decks + dice + whatever from seven seas deck, and that, i believe, will fall under accessories. And if wooden boxes are ok here, i will nominate Uusi's Redux Box

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/875/004/250dbe6250290f4361c2a11ea6c58dbf_large.jpg?1377869875)
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/875/006/7178c3ec3a2e9086fe27f13ddaf22384_large.jpg?1377869932)
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Anthony on November 04, 2014, 09:50:04 AM
Ya, I can see how this might get split or reigned in.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Rose on November 04, 2014, 10:40:25 AM
Thank you everyone for your nominations!!!
Just note if you pick 3-10 decks your first nomination will be the one that counts.
Also if the deck is yet to be released, the vote can only count if it is released in 2014.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Rose on November 04, 2014, 10:49:34 AM
I think if it holds 6 or 12 decks it should be eligible.
I think I have to agree, this is not a "traditional" brick box but it is still a brick box.
When it gets to the Award Voting maybe we can split the awards to "traditional brick design" and "special brick accessory"!
You can nominate for either here. I say why not both!  ;D
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Fess on November 04, 2014, 10:57:46 AM
Thank you everyone for your nominations!!!
Just note if you pick 3-10 decks your first nomination will be the one that counts.
Also if the deck is yet to be released, the vote can only count if it is released in 2014.

When it gets to the Award Voting maybe we can split the awards to "traditional brick design" and "special brick accessory"!
You can nominate for either here. I say why not both!  ;D

Clarify please. Nominations seem to be what's important here. What are we nominating on this thread? A Brick Box, or a Wooden box that happens to hold 6 to 12 decks.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: bamabenz on November 04, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
I second the Uusi Redux Box.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Rose on November 04, 2014, 11:28:58 AM
When it gets to the Award Voting maybe we can split the awards to "traditional brick design" and "special brick accessory"!
You can nominate for either here. I say why not both!  ;D

Clarify please. Nominations seem to be what's important here. What are we nominating on this thread? A Brick Box, or a Wooden box that happens to hold 6 to 12 decks.
My suggestion is to nominate both/all here, if I make a separate category now for "wooden boxes" all these nominations may be lost.
So if there are enough nominations for each style we can make 2 separate awards later to vote on, but at this point it is anything that holds a half brick or brick!

Is that okay with you Fes, I appreciate your input so any suggestions for or against this option will be considered!

What does everyone think about keeping all "bricks" regardless of materials here for now and we can re-assess later?
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Fess on November 04, 2014, 01:24:15 PM
When it gets to the Award Voting maybe we can split the awards to "traditional brick design" and "special brick accessory"!
You can nominate for either here. I say why not both!  ;D

Clarify please. Nominations seem to be what's important here. What are we nominating on this thread? A Brick Box, or a Wooden box that happens to hold 6 to 12 decks.
My suggestion is to nominate both/all here, if I make a separate category now for "wooden boxes" all these nominations may be lost.
So if there are enough nominations for each style we can make 2 separate awards later to vote on, but at this point it is anything that holds a half brick or brick!

Is that okay with you Fes, I appreciate your input so any suggestions for or against this option will be considered!

What does everyone think about keeping all "bricks" regardless of materials here for now and we can re-assess later?

I don't agree. There is a thread up for wooden boxes now as those wooden boxes aren't brick boxes, they're accessories. From what I understand Brick boxes are for ease of manageability. 12 decks in a box are easier to negotiate than 12 decks loose. 12 brick boxes are much easier to negotiate than 144 loose decks. Helps out with handling the large volumes produced, shipped, and received. I haven't seen nor heard of any major card manufacturer using wooden boxes to accomplish that task in the year 2014. They use paper, it's light and rather flimsy only held together with cheap glue, but it accomplishes the task rather well.

I may be wrong. Just because I have never ever received a brick in a wooden box without paying for a wooden box separately doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I may not be buying from the right stores. Maybe someone is getting their bricks shipped to them in wooden boxes and I'm just not in the loop. It's certainly a possibility. Might be a question to raise in the various company topics, because if some of you are indeed getting bricks shipped to you in wooden boxes that you didn't have to pay for, I want in too.

Awards can have serious results. They're bragging rights for people/companies who win them if they choose to treat them that way. It is the public that's making the votes after all, their consumers. I think the process should be taken somewhat seriously as well, at least when dealing with the category the nomination is taken in and certainly when it comes to what category that voting takes place.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Don Boyer on November 04, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
OK, guys, I'm making a decision.

A "brick" or "half-brick" box is a box that conforms to the industry standard for size, shape and composition.  It's the kind of box you'd receive from the manufacturer of the deck, the kind of box that's printed on paper.

Rose, if you would, please - I'd like TWO new categories drawn up with that lovely logo you're using.

- Best "Furniture-Grade" Deck Storage (this would allow ALL wooden storage boxes designed to hold decks, no matter how many its maximum capacity will hold).

- Best Display Box or Case (this covers wood, plastic, glass, etc. containers meant to hold cards ON DISPLAY - could be all-clear, could have a window in it, etc.)

In either case, the container has to have been PURPOSE-BUILT for holding decks of playing cards.  And released in 2014!
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Don Boyer on November 05, 2014, 02:11:20 AM
I second the Uusi Redux Box.

You DID mean Hotcakes and not Redux, right?  'Cause Blueblood Redux hasn't been nominated...  :))
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: bamabenz on November 05, 2014, 02:35:05 AM
Don,
PurpleIce nominated Uusi Redux Box in reply #14:
"I'm just wondering if we could have printed paper brick boxes in this category and wooden boxes in another, either with accessories, or a stand alone by itself. I have a wooden box that could hold 3 decks + dice + whatever from seven seas deck, and that, i believe, will fall under accessories. And if wooden boxes are ok here, i will nominate Uusi's Redux Box."

I'm the one who nominated Hotcakes box, so I can't second it.
I do hope someone DOES second it, as you did say that you'll be separating out paper bricks from 'furniture' bricks, so there is no conflict.

In the interest of vote consolidation I won't be nominating Uusi Pagan box, which is even classier, IMHO. Peter Dunham does great work.

/bama
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Don Boyer on November 05, 2014, 02:49:31 AM
Don,
PurpleIce nominated Uusi Redux Box in reply #14:
"I'm just wondering if we could have printed paper brick boxes in this category and wooden boxes in another, either with accessories, or a stand alone by itself. I have a wooden box that could hold 3 decks + dice + whatever from seven seas deck, and that, i believe, will fall under accessories. And if wooden boxes are ok here, i will nominate Uusi's Redux Box."

I'm the one who nominated Hotcakes box, so I can't second it.
I do hope someone DOES second it, as you did say that you'll be separating out paper bricks from 'furniture' bricks, so there is no conflict.

In the interest of vote consolidation I won't be nominating Uusi Pagan box, which is even classier, IMHO. Peter Dunham does great work.

/bama

Thanks for that correction.  I missed it because I was skimming though the posts about the "what is a brick box" debate.  I'll fix that now.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Rose on November 06, 2014, 12:31:49 AM
When it gets to the Award Voting maybe we can split the awards to "traditional brick design" and "special brick accessory"!
You can nominate for either here. I say why not both!  ;D

Clarify please. Nominations seem to be what's important here. What are we nominating on this thread? A Brick Box, or a Wooden box that happens to hold 6 to 12 decks.
My suggestion is to nominate both/all here, if I make a separate category now for "wooden boxes" all these nominations may be lost.
So if there are enough nominations for each style we can make 2 separate awards later to vote on, but at this point it is anything that holds a half brick or brick!

Is that okay with you Fes, I appreciate your input so any suggestions for or against this option will be considered!

What does everyone think about keeping all "bricks" regardless of materials here for now and we can re-assess later?

I don't agree. There is a thread up for wooden boxes now as those wooden boxes aren't brick boxes, they're accessories. From what I understand Brick boxes are for ease of manageability. 12 decks in a box are easier to negotiate than 12 decks loose. 12 brick boxes are much easier to negotiate than 144 loose decks. Helps out with handling the large volumes produced, shipped, and received. I haven't seen nor heard of any major card manufacturer using wooden boxes to accomplish that task in the year 2014. They use paper, it's light and rather flimsy only held together with cheap glue, but it accomplishes the task rather well.

I may be wrong. Just because I have never ever received a brick in a wooden box without paying for a wooden box separately doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I may not be buying from the right stores. Maybe someone is getting their bricks shipped to them in wooden boxes and I'm just not in the loop. It's certainly a possibility. Might be a question to raise in the various company topics, because if some of you are indeed getting bricks shipped to you in wooden boxes that you didn't have to pay for, I want in too.

Awards can have serious results. They're bragging rights for people/companies who win them if they choose to treat them that way. It is the public that's making the votes after all, their consumers. I think the process should be taken somewhat seriously as well, at least when dealing with the category the nomination is taken in and certainly when it comes to what category that voting takes place.
Thanks for your input Fes, there is now a NEW topic for "Wooden and Metal" boxes! So it has it's own category now, I hope this helps! :)
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Fess on December 29, 2014, 08:49:32 PM
With Heretic scheduled to land on January second in NY, kind of a downer that it's not ellegible by one day. I absolutely love the brick box there, wish I had picked up three of them.

The best brick boxes this year in my humble opinion have Randy Butterfields name all over them. I suggest we just give him the best Brick box award for his body of work on brick boxes this year and call it good. The Ornates alone, absolutely fantastic. Boardwalk papers collectors brick box, love it! There's a quick three brick boxes. I nominate them all haha. (Break that one nomination rule, it's a bad one. :P)

Second the Hot cakes paper brick box so there's something here.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Don Boyer on December 30, 2014, 01:11:54 AM
With Heretic scheduled to land on January second in NY, kind of a downer that it's not ellegible by one day. I absolutely love the brick box there, wish I had picked up three of them.

The best brick boxes this year in my humble opinion have Randy Butterfields name all over them. I suggest we just give him the best Brick box award for his body of work on brick boxes this year and call it good. The Ornates alone, absolutely fantastic. Boardwalk papers collectors brick box, love it! There's a quick three brick boxes. I nominate them all haha. (Break that one nomination rule, it's a bad one. :P)

Second the Hot cakes paper brick box so there's something here.

OK, I'm going to count your first-nominated brick box, the Ornates.  Whether others want to nominate the rest is up to them.

As far as Heretic is concerned, it's going to miss by far more than just one day.  It's slated to arrive in the port of New York on Friday, but it still has to get to the distribution center and be packaged for shipment to backers.  It will miss by perhaps a week or two if not more.

Of the previous two nominated and seconded boxes:
-- Heretic will not distribute in time.
-- Blueblood Redux's wooden box falls in a different category.  If someone wanted to nominate their paper brick box, they can't - it and the decks started distribution on Black Friday of 2013 and isn't eligible for this year's awards.  The wooden box is eligible in the appropriate category because it started shipping in January of this year.

This leaves us with Hotcakes as the sole seconded nomination to date.  If none other gets seconded, the deck's brick box will win by default.

You have less than forty-three hours before the year ends and another twenty-four beyond that before nominations are finished.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: cbkimble on December 30, 2014, 04:02:21 AM
I nominate the boardwalk papers brick box. I do t have a pic on hand but I can get one if anyone needs to see it. I really like the deck tuck and the brick box.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Fess on December 30, 2014, 05:45:42 AM
I nominate the boardwalk papers brick box. I do t have a pic on hand but I can get one if anyone needs to see it. I really like the deck tuck and the brick box.

Seconded!
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Fess on December 30, 2014, 05:52:10 AM
With Heretic scheduled to land on January second in NY, kind of a downer that it's not ellegible by one day. I absolutely love the brick box there, wish I had picked up three of them.

The best brick boxes this year in my humble opinion have Randy Butterfields name all over them. I suggest we just give him the best Brick box award for his body of work on brick boxes this year and call it good. The Ornates alone, absolutely fantastic. Boardwalk papers collectors brick box, love it! There's a quick three brick boxes. I nominate them all haha. (Break that one nomination rule, it's a bad one. :P)

Second the Hot cakes paper brick box so there's something here.

OK, I'm going to count your first-nominated brick box, the Ornates.  Whether others want to nominate the rest is up to them.

As far as Heretic is concerned, it's going to miss by far more than just one day.  It's slated to arrive in the port of New York on Friday, but it still has to get to the distribution center and be packaged for shipment to backers.  It will miss by perhaps a week or two if not more.

Of the previous two nominated and seconded boxes:
-- Heretic will not distribute in time.
-- Blueblood Redux's wooden box falls in a different category.  If someone wanted to nominate their paper brick box, they can't - it and the decks started distribution on Black Friday of 2013 and isn't eligible for this year's awards.  The wooden box is eligible in the appropriate category because it started shipping in January of this year.

This leaves us with Hotcakes as the sole seconded nomination to date.  If none other gets seconded, the deck's brick box will win by default.

You have less than forty-three hours before the year ends and another twenty-four beyond that before nominations are finished.

Many people have been receiving some copies of Heretic in the form of their Heretic Gran Reserva decks, would that make Heretic eligible?
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Don Boyer on December 31, 2014, 12:49:03 AM

Many people have been receiving some copies of Heretic in the form of their Heretic Gran Reserva decks, would that make Heretic eligible?

Only if those Gran Reserva decks are arriving in those wicked-cool nominated brick boxes.

This award isn't about the deck - it's about the box.  For example, the only reason the wooden Blueblood Redux box is permitted in the "furniture-grade" category (that really needs a better name!) is that it shipped on a different date from when the decks began shipping.  The box actually has "2013" carved right into the lid - but while the decks started shipped on Black Friday 2013, the fancy box didn't ship until January of THIS year, 2014.

It's also the same reason why a movie released in May 2014 which started advertising with trailers in 2013 isn't eligible for a 2014 Academy Award (which was given to 2013 movie releases).  The trailer might be, if there was such a category, but not the movie.
Title: Re: Best Brick/Half-Brick Box
Post by: Don Boyer on January 02, 2015, 12:12:27 AM
NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED.

As we have only one successfully-seconded nomination, I hereby declare the winner to be:

Hotcakes by Uusi

Congratulations to Uusi's Peter Dunham and Linnea Gits!


LATE EDIT: seems I overlooked a nomination that was seconded for the Boardwalk Papers Brick Box by Randy Butterfield for The Blue Crown!  We have a contest!  People will be permitted to vote for an extra 90-150 minutes, based on which category you compare it with.