Quote from: fenderdemon on July 04, 2016, 09:05:21 PM

Quote from: Cerefen on July 03, 2016, 12:36:07 AM

Here is mine


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17X4lF6Mr8EaXIjYk0om3vnVqYTxyFlWZON3IRsiwvuY/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

I do trades time to time
I'll work on a short vid.

Note to Self: Create a spreadsheet of decks..!!! 😉

Or use www.portfolio52.com/

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I get new stuff all the time, I usually don't post photos lately as I've been extremely busy. These arrived today though and there is no way that I wasn't going to take a few minutes to grab a couple snaps to share! These are easily some of my favorite decks of the year. They're all slated for poker use at some point, since the Brimstone have a brother and sister deck. Maybe I'll post a family portrait at some point if they don't burn each other up haha.

Whilst I'm definitely not the world's biggest USPCC fan, I did like the White Lions decks very much -- the cards where thicker, and definitely a lot more durable than present day USPCC output.

I used quite a lot of White Lions decks back in the day, and all of them were traditionally cut, and that was another reason why I liked them so much.

The Black Lions cards were probably amongst the worst I've ever handled... but the White Lions were definitely amongst the best USPCC decks I've ever handled, along with the Richard Turner gold seal Bee decks

Quote from: fenderdemon on February 05, 2016, 04:16:07 PM

Black Lions - Red Edition 😎♠️

You can't really say they're in release yet.  They're not available at retail and as there was no crowdfunding, the backers didn't get them (no backers).  You were fortunate to get them - tell us the story behind it.

Finally getting into peoples hands..........well worth the wait, Bravo Lorenzo!


.......just for the record, you gotta see the goodness on the inside of the tuck as well

And how did they get those? 

Quote from: fenderdemon on January 01, 2016, 04:26:57 PM

Would some kind soul tell me who the J♦️, Q♣️ and the K♣️ are based on, please.

On a side note, I love the deeper red hue on the pips and court cards. Possibly Madison's input, there.

Also, has anyone noticed what appears to be a very feint 1 2 3 on the Lion's overcoat, as well as a 4♦️ (I can't confirm the suit, as my magnifying glass isn't strong enough and I've misplaced my loupe) and a bordered back design on the two Jokers, respectively.

Overall, I really like these cards. I think they handle extremely well.

The one gripe I have, is that I wish they were of the same stock as the WL'S, although they are still of a very high quality stock. David's cards are always special when it comes to stock, finish, et cetera, IMHO.

I don't know what changes if any he's made for this series, but you can compare it to decks from earlier series at the Playing Card Wiki (Google for it, you'll find it, no problem).  The info there is dated, but of excellent quality, including a breakdown of who appears on what cards in many of Blaine's earlier decks.

Stock quality is always an issue with USPC - it has a lot to do with recycling regulations requiring a certain amount of the paper be made of post-consumer recycled content.  Recycled paper has shorter fibers and is of a lower quality.  Ellusionist was lamenting about this in their blog a few years ago.  Factor in that they don't make the paper, they buy it on the open market, and there's less ability to insure a consistent high grade of paper print run after print run.  (They do their own gluing, laminating and embossing to make paperboard stock, but the paper they use comes from someone else.)

Anyone else found the 5H reveal on the tuck back?

Quote from: fenderdemon on December 16, 2015, 08:44:47 PM

Hey Don

I've attached a picture of the back of the 7♦️ (WL SB B). Would you mind using your marker (or MS Paint) to show where the value would be, please, because I can't see for looking 😉

Thank you :-)

If you search for the old topic on the White Lions, I'm sure someone's detailed the entire marking system for that deck.  I'm going with the assumption that you've presented a Seven of Diamonds and what I remember of the marking system.

Notice I made two marks on your card image.  The top mark points to a full split spade - picture a diamond made of four split spades and that's the leftmost spade in the diamond.  Notice it's DARKER along the center line than the other three.  That's your suit indicator.

Now look at the second mark, pointing to a half split spade along the card's edge.  Notice how the long vertical line at the edge of that half-spade is THINNER than the same line on the spades above and below it.  Now notice the gap line that the half-spade is pointing to and follow it diagonally going up, seeing that it's WIDER than the gap of neighboring gap lines.

This is very similar to the Seven of Diamonds in the Black Lions, except that I can't tell any difference between the half-spades on the card edge for the Black Lions.  While its not immediately apparent, the gap positioning looks to be the same if you mirror the image of the Black Lion card, flipping it along the vertical axis - when you do that, the gaps in both decks are located in the same place.  The suit marker, however, is now using what appears to be different positioning, unless the White Lions Series B card presented isn't a diamond and is some other suit.

Need more info?  Go to the homepage and search "white lions marking system" and you'll find the older posts covering the marking systems used on the Series A and Series B decks.  I don't know if the markings were carried over into the Black Label - can't honestly say if I've looked or not - but I'd wager they're probably the same as Series B, considering the timing of the release.