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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => A Cellar of Fine Vintages => Topic started by: Queen of Spades on January 27, 2016, 06:07:46 AM
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Here is the back view of ths Aladdin .
Thank you very much .
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I've never known its name - it's the standard back used for Aladdins that are still in print today. I've only ever seen one other back, a vintage design called the Dome Back which was reprinted a few years ago with an Air Cushion finish.
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Here is the back view of the Aladdin. Thank you very much.
Hochman refers to these as Aladdin 1001s. No information is given about other back names.
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Here is the back view of the Aladdin. Thank you very much.
Hochman refers to these as Aladdin 1001s. No information is given about other back names.
Perhaps USPC never formally named it, just used it - there aren't many Aladdin backs in the first place, as far as I know. Either that, or maybe they simply refer to it as the Aladdin back! If I tell a collector, "That Phoenix back on the Phoenix deck looks very similar to an Aladdin back," they usually know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Came across this the other day. Not quite what you are looking for, but around 1906 the Aladdin No. 1001 had back named Oriental.
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Here is the back view of ths Aladdin .
Thank you very much .
In the 1890's Alladin #1001 & #1002 [Gold Edges] had several backs including Crowley, Oriental, Dome and Dragon - none of which match with the one pictured
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Chuqii, Thank you very much for the picture of the oriental back!! I won an antique copy with this back recently (repictured below) but I didn't know its name. Can you tell me where you found this image please? And Tom, thanks to you too for the other names of backs. Always very helpful info for me who likes finding the names of antique american backs! If you have pictures of these other backs, I would be happy to see them ;)
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It would seem I have a lot to learn about Aladdins. At present, USPC markets them primarily for sale in Singapore. Supposedly the paper used to make it is better suited for the humid, hot environment, and the handful of Singaporeans whom I've discussed this with agree. They say regular Bikes wilt too quickly while Aladdins last longer. Personally, I think it has more to do with the smooth finish, but that's just an educated guess on my part.
My question is: were they always marketed exclusively in that country, or were they at one time more commonly available in places like North America (or even South America, for that matter)? I know Tally Ho used to be a national brand, but today USPC has it as a "regional" brand, the region being magic shops, card specialty dealers and New York City! I used to find Aviators everywhere as a kid; today, they're pushed mostly at airports (and of course the same specialty shops I mentioned). And interestingly enough, while Mavericks are considered a regional brand for most Southern states, as the "Family Dollar" store chain has made inroads in the Northeast, they've brought Mavericks with them, in unique boxes pre-printed with the store's selling price: $1. (I've also seen Bicycle Standards and Bicycle Pink Ribbons in this type of box from the same stores, preprinted with $3 as the price.)
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Aladdin #1001 started a mid-range brand around 1885. Even after the buyout by USPC in 1893, Aladdin was continued as a regular brand - likely being phased out in the 1920's. It was revived for specific export sales in more recent times - don't know when but would guess 1980's. Will try and find backs to share in the chaos here.
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Aladdin #1001 started a mid-range brand around 1885. Even after the buyout by USPC in 1893, Aladdin was continued as a regular brand - likely being phased out in the 1920's. It was revived for specific export sales in more recent times - don't know when but would guess 1980's. Will try and find backs to share in the chaos here.
That's cool to know - I always assumed that Aladdins were continuously in production.
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Here are two other antique aladdin #1001 decks. Compared with Tom's note, I think that the first green back is Dragon and the second is Dome. If you have a pix of the Crowley back, please don't hesitate to share it.
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Here are two other antique aladdin #1001 decks. Compared with Tom's note, I think that the first green back is Dragon and the second is Dome. If you have a pix of the Crowley back, please don't hesitate to share it.
I can confirm that the second is Dome. It was reprinted a few years ago - I think it was ordered by a playing card dealer. While the run was short, perhaps 5,000 of each, they're probably still around at a reasonable price.
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Thanks for the additional info Don. I await confirmation from Tom but finally I think that the name of the back requested by Queen of Spades is probably Crowley. I found a copy of the first Aladdin joker (pictured below) with this same back. But If it's not the Crowley back, we can still include it in the first backs used for the Aladdin brand.
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Thanks for the additional info Don. I await confirmation from Tom but finally I think that the name of the back requested by Queen of Spades is probably Crowley. I found a copy of the first Aladdin joker (pictured below) with this same back. But If it's not the Crowley back, we can still include it in the first backs used for the Aladdin brand.
Dome & Dragon are correct. Below is Crowley
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Thanks for the additional info Don. I await confirmation from Tom but finally I think that the name of the back requested by Queen of Spades is probably Crowley. I found a copy of the first Aladdin joker (pictured below) with this same back. But If it's not the Crowley back, we can still include it in the first backs used for the Aladdin brand.
Dome & Dragon are correct. Below is Crowley
Thank you for the update! By looking at your image, I had the impression that I had already seen that back somewhere. And effectiveley, it also appears in the article of Clear the Decks entitled "More Double-ended Animal Backs" except that the name of the back in the article was just baboons. Can you just confirm that the name is Crowley and not Crowly please? I did not find definition in French for both spellings. Do you know its meaning or a synonym?
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Name is Crowly, not Crowley
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Name is Crowly, not Crowley
Do you know what that means?
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I found the image for Oriental back on Google Books. Book is "Prices Current Fuller & Fuller Chicago" When you have the book opened, do a search for "Aladdin" and it should take you to the correct page.
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Name is Crowly, not Crowley
Do you know what that means?
As far as I can tell, it's just a family name, one that I've seen often enough in England to think it's originally from there, though it does also appear in Ireland. The most famous Crowley would likely be Aleister Crowley (1875-1947), English occultist and writer. There's cities, towns and other geographic regions named Crowley as well - I know of several in the US and there's probably a fair number in Canada as well.
I tried finding a connection to the card design's name and the monkey image in the design - I couldn't find one that made any sense.
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Name is Crowly, not Crowley
Do you know what that means?
No Idea - maybe there was a famous monkey late 29th century with that name.
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Thank you all for your answers! It is a bit frustrating to not know the name of the back requested but we will find the answer maybe one day. In the meantime, I made a little board by gathering the different Aladdin backs covered on this subject.
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Thank you all for your answers! It is a bit frustrating to not know the name of the back requested but we will find the answer maybe one day. In the meantime, I made a little board by gathering the different Aladdin backs covered on this subject.
As the ubiquitous back, perhaps it's the Aladdin back? Just a guess...
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I think I cracked it, but the answer is underwhelming. Unknown back is "Feather". See price list from 1920 with mention of Feather back
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I think I cracked it, but the answer is underwhelming. Unknown back is "Feather". See price list from 1920 with mention of Feather back
Not underwhelming; any new information is always valuable.
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I think I cracked it, but the answer is underwhelming. Unknown back is "Feather". See price list from 1920 with mention of Feather back
Chuqii -- You have cracked it! I came across this, and figured you'd like to have some confirmation. It's 100% called Feather. :D