Hey Don,

Thanks for the wonderful reply. You're right we should seriously think about retooling the project. Thanks for giving me the advice. As for MCP, please ignore it. We asked him if it was okay to mention him but I think we misunderstood. Anyways were going to take Dons advise and close this project soon. Thanks for all your support, Thanks.

Quote from: Rose on October 05, 2014, 10:56:57 AM

I like this 'vintage' style.

This deck's a number of years old now.  All of the oldest Ellusionist decks have the Rider Back design on them, like this one.  It's sort of the granddaddy of the vintage-look deck.  There were a few other attempts made before, but one looks like it was simply dumped in toxic waste (hence it's called the "Bicycle Dirty Deck", in two nasty-looking color schemes), and the other, by Magic Makers and called the Bicycle Faded Deck, looks like the ink was painted on and that the paint is cracking after a few decades of rain, sun, cold and wind.  Magic Makers was kind enough to include gaff cards.  (To add confusion, some dealers call the Dirty Deck the Faded Deck as well.)  This was the first to have some kind of a more "realistic" look to it.

All of the above-mentioned designs have a subtle-enough one-way back, but the Series 1800 was unique among all one-way backs I've seen for one reason.  In most cases of decks with one-way backs, even ones with hidden or subtle one-way backs, the backs and faces are oriented the same way relative to each other, meaning that a "correct-edge up" back can be rotated along the vertical axis to reveal that the face is also "correct-edge up".  The Series 1800, however, had the backs oriented "correctly" on some cards, "rotated" on others.  This way, when the backs are all oriented the same way to each other, the faces will be a mix of correctly and incorrectly oriented, giving the pack a more mixed-up appearance from the front and deepening the illusion of the cards not being arranged in any special manner.

There was a company a few years ago that was advertising "Pale Riders" - a genuinely faded-look pack of Bicycle Rider Backs, sort of a "ghostly afterimage" - but it was discovered that it was meant not as a mass-produced item but as a magicians' gaff deck and it never made it to market because the "manufacturing process" involved taking regular consumer-issue off-the-shelf packs and chemically treating them to make the inks fade - they never quite perfected the process to reliably produce a decent amount of decks in an economically-viable manner.

Very impressed with the look of this deck and I'm quite happy to back it. If it follows the trend lately it'll look even more incredible when it's in our hands. Great work Max! 

Just bumped up my pledge, I think I understand about the difficulty after looking at more. Are the nuts and bolts actually 3 dimensional on the coin? I don't think they'll be mobile but like actually there, there? If what I'm seeing is actually translated to the coin as is, WOW!