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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2013, 09:06:07 PM »
 

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I know, so disappointing. All th time n effort he put into making it, he deserves much more backers and pledges. Teal deck sounded awesome

on that note I almost hope he decides to re launch it as a teal deck (if he only plans on doing one), I don't know why (other than there a great deck handling wise) but I'm digging the teal vibe on the legends decks. :)
 

Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2013, 09:18:17 PM »
 

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yup, th teal colour looks awesome on th legends deck and I'm sure it would on these decks too .. Purple and teal r starting to show up more n more on cards nowadays, and that ain't a bad thing :)
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2013, 06:27:52 PM »
 

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Just a tiny update, rather a sneak preview of what's to come from Alvin Cheung.
Photo taken from his FB page.
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2013, 07:15:05 PM »
 

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Oh my god, PLEASE be a re-release...
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2013, 07:46:48 PM »
 

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Oh my god, PLEASE be a re-release...

Technically it never got released in the first place, so wouldn't be a re-release BUT I did message him and he said he's working on the teal deck and hopefully will have it up and running soon :)
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2013, 10:07:50 PM »
 

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Yes! I remember being real excited about these when the were released and quite disappointed when the funding fell short. I'm ready to be on board once I get the money and these are live.
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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2013, 10:34:06 PM »
 

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I'm shocked that didn't get funded the first time. I think it has something to do with the UK £ pricing, and having to put your credit card info in on KS- not Amazon.
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2013, 11:36:26 AM »
 

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Great news.  I'll be pledging again for this deck.
 

Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2013, 09:41:56 AM »
 

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Great news.  I'll be pledging again for this deck.

Same here. I might pledge for more decks to help get it funded, then sell off the excess on eBay once all the derps have realised that they missed out of getting a seriously sweet looking deck.
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2014, 11:20:05 AM »
 

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From the SiShou Facebook page.
"Work in progress new tuck box design..."


Here's the old design for comparison


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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2014, 11:49:53 AM »
 

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I was keeping quiet about this, and now u beat me to it :(

I've been having lengthy discussions with Alvin regarding the relaunch of this deck.

He's making some tweaks here and there. I threw some names at him to talk to about getting the best out of this project.
I mentioned LPCC and EPCC, hoping he goes with one of these guys. Also, looking for a reasonable fulfilment centre for distribution in the US. Mentioned KWP, does anyone know of any others?
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2014, 12:12:58 PM »
 

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I was keeping quiet about this, and now u beat me to it :(

I've been having lengthy discussions with Alvin regarding the relaunch of this deck.

He's making some tweaks here and there. I threw some names at him to talk to about getting the best out of this project.
I mentioned LPCC and EPCC, hoping he goes with one of these guys. Also, looking for a reasonable fulfilment centre for distribution in the US. Mentioned KWP, does anyone know of any others?

Pokerstud52 of eBay. My best bet.
 

Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2014, 12:26:17 PM »
 

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Pokerstud52 of eBay. My best bet.

As a fulfillment centre? I'm pretty sure he's just a reseller, no?
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2014, 12:47:30 PM »
 

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Beautiful project, can't wait to see more on it and about it  ;)
 

Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2014, 01:37:20 PM »
 

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Here's a snap I got sent of the tuck. He just printed it and assembled it, no cards, just a paper tuck just to see what it looks like in the flesh.

The blue is a possibility, but I'm pretty sure he'll stick with the original teal colour. Looking at having the red deck as a stretch goal.
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2014, 11:47:16 PM »
 

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This was one of my favorite decks to fail getting funded on Kickstarter.  The design was great but he was looking to make both red and blue decks right off the bat, giving him a goal that was simply too high to reach for a first-timer such as he was.  Remember, this was "pre-Jackson", when Kickstarter hadn't yet exploded with deck projects - few projects offered two deck right at the starting gate, usually saving the second deck as a stretch goal.

Any word on design changes, or is it (I hope) essentially the same deck?

Regarding fulfillment, Nurul, yes, a reseller can also act as a fulfillment center.  All a fulfillment center does is take your decks and a list of your outstanding orders, then fills those orders by packing up the right decks and sending them to the right people.  Throw in a cash register and you have a deck reseller.  It's simply a matter of whether the retailer is interested in doing the work and sets an acceptable price.  Murphy's Magic does fulfillment, but they're primarily a wholesaler, selling to other magic shops at wholesale prices so they can sell them at retail prices.

There are MANY companies throughout the US that offer fulfillment services, but it's a matter of finding one that offers the quality of service the typical deck collector will insist upon.  The problem is that fulfillers will want to use the least expensive materials they can find for packaging (a buck not spent on bubble wrap or cardboard boxes is a buck spent on more fun things like payroll, health insurance and retirement plans), and this often results in damaged goods reaching the customer.  Plus there's the fact that most of the world sees a playing card deck and thinks, "Oh, it's just playing cards, they're pretty cheap, I get these for a buck at the dollar store," which results in the company's packing and shipping employees not treating them like rare or expensive objects.
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2014, 05:42:35 AM »
 

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He's finishing up designs, aim is to finish up by next week. Slight changes in the tuck, colour scheme is being played around with too. He's most likely doing the red deck as a stretch goal, possibly changing up the court designs for it. There's no confirmation of that yet.
In terms of fulfilment, he's looking at a few companies. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2014, 11:17:29 AM »
 

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Do you prefer blue or black pips?
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [Coming Soon]
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2014, 02:59:00 PM »
 

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Ace of hearts - feedback appreciated
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [Coming Soon]
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2014, 05:38:29 PM »
 

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Blue or black, both look good.  Perhaps the black will provide more contrast?

The cards look good, plain and simple!
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [Coming Soon]
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2014, 07:06:33 AM »
 

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Hey Don!

Been reading through the previous comments of yours to improve on this deck.
I think this should be moved to the "work in progress" forum do you think?

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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [Coming Soon]
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2014, 01:36:34 PM »
 

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Here's diptych jokers
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [KS]
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2014, 03:04:11 PM »
 

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Do you prefer blue or black pips?

I prefer black.
 

Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [Coming Soon]
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2014, 03:19:40 PM »
 

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Must admit, black definitely make it pop.
Black as the small indices, and blue as the middle pips?
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Re: SiShou - Four Beasts [Coming Soon]
« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2014, 11:12:51 AM »
 

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Based on some feedback, I decided to scrap the "human" court cards, instead I will go with the Beast theme and have each beast represent its suit.