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Masque · « **on:** January 15, 2012, 12:29:14 PM »

Here's an interesting development. Today I encountered a deck of Rider Back bikes not in the "Standard" box, but in a regular older-style Rider Back box, and with a 2011 copyright. The most interesting thing? The bar code isn't the regular 808, but… well, see for yourself. The deck I found is on the right, next to an older 807-R-TG:

Aaron · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2012, 12:33:28 PM »

I got a rider back a few mounths ago and when I opened it it has the new coulored jokers that only came out in 2010 or 2011 (cnt remember which one)

Masque · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2012, 01:05:40 PM »

The colored jokers are coming in Standard boxes marked with the 2009 copyright as well, though the brick box containing the colored-joker Standard decks I've seen has been marked ©2010. I haven't opened this deck yet.

Aaron · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2012, 01:08:15 PM »

Ok the coloured jokers were not available in stores where I live in canada until like last January

Masque · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2012, 01:18:40 PM »

Makes sense. No reason to change the box copyright unless the box changes. I think the 2009 boxes could contain either, with the production date for the colored jokers starting sometime in late 2010.

But whither the new 807 box, mm?

Aaron · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2012, 01:54:15 PM »

Quote from: Masque on January 15, 2012, 01:18:40 PM

Makes sense. No reason to change the box copyright unless the box changes. I think the 2009 boxes could contain either, with the production date for the colored jokers starting sometime in late 2010.

But whither the new 807 box, mm?

I think they probably made the decks in 2009 but they wernt on shelves in stores for awile after, Stores probaby buy a gross of cards and then sell them and order another gross so the would have to sell off everything they had before they got the new ones.

And I know the 807-R-TG is a print run of decks done by Target from what I have read they may have a thicker stock and they are a kinda rare because they are not readily available. But pretty much they are just bicycle decks Printed in an exclusive run by Target. The colours in the decks are also brighter. As for the 2011 copyright, I have no idea why that is there. I was under the understanding that Riderbacks were not going to be produced in that box design anymore. Can you look and see if they are printed in Cincinatti or Erlanger.

Masque · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2012, 02:05:21 PM »

The 807-R-TG was definitely not exclusive to Target. I've seen them at Fred Meyer as well, for example.

The new ©2011 box with the 807 bar code was definitely printed in Erlanger. That should be evident from the photo, showing the two boxes together side by side.

I thought the "Rider Back" box was done as well, but obviously they're going forward with them, at least in some capacity….

Aaron · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2012, 02:11:56 PM »

Quote from: Masque on January 15, 2012, 02:05:21 PM

The 807-R-TG was definitely not exclusive to Target. I've seen them at Fred Meyer as well, for example.

The new ©2011 box with the 807 bar code was definitely printed in Erlanger. That should be evident from the photo, showing the two boxes together side by side.

I thought the "Rider Back" box was done as well, but obviously they're going forward with them, at least in some capacity….

ok I had read that the R-TG ment Run Target but I am not sure. And maybe they are going back to the Rider Back box. I read on wikipedia like a year ago that they planned on reprinting riderback decks.

Masque · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2012, 02:17:43 PM »

Right - and if that was the plan, why not shift the regular 808 box to the rider back? Why the separate UPC? Why the old 807-R-TG UPC? Perhaps this is transitional, as the 807 was when shifting from OH to KY. Or perhaps… who knows? That's why I posted this - curiosity...

Masque · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2012, 02:21:22 PM »

Edited the original post to more clearly emphasize that the deck I found, and the interest I have, is in the deck on the -right- in the photos above. I know about the original 807.

Aaron · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2012, 02:45:19 PM »

Quote from: Masque on January 15, 2012, 02:21:22 PM

Edited the original post to more clearly emphasize that the deck I found, and the interest I have, is in the deck on the -right- in the photos above. I know about the original 807.

Ok so it apears that your new one is and 807 but not R-TG idk how many of these were printed but where did you get it?

Lushbob · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2012, 04:05:57 PM »

Yeah, I'd like to know where you got it, too.
Certainly sounds very interesting. Who knows what's going on? Maybe they're bringing back the old box, maybe they're not (and I personally doubt they are). Or maybe they're doing something totally different. I guess just time will tell.

Aaron · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2012, 04:14:26 PM »

also did you open the cards, Maybe they feel different or have a different finish, possibly better quality

Don Boyer · « **Reply #13 on:** January 15, 2012, 06:06:38 PM »

The 807-R-TG deck was a transitional deck - when Jarden bought USPC but hadn't yet moved operations to Kentucky, that was the designator used. If it has a black seal, it may have even been Kentucky-made despite the Ohio box.

Your "original" box with the 2011 copyright and the "made in Erlanger" text is certainly an anomaly. This could be a special run for magicians, or an indicator that they are indeed returning to the old box due to popular demand. Magicians aren't the only ones who were fond of the classic-box style. This would especially be true if USPC noticed a drop in demand since the transition to the "Standard" box. When things affect the bottom line, a good company will take notice and take action. And if they considered it to be some kind of embarrassing failure to switch to the Standard box, they might not draw a lot of attention to the transition back to Classic.

Where exactly did you purchase the new classic box?

Aaron · « **Reply #14 on:** January 15, 2012, 08:11:38 PM »

Dude if you can tell us where you bought that I would be interested in buying that deck off you.

Masque · « **Reply #15 on:** January 15, 2012, 10:53:09 PM »

I found two copies of this deck, one red and one blue, at a Fred Meyer here in the Portland, Oregon area. I've opened the red one. It feels substantially similar to the Bicycle Standards I've opened recently. Colored Joker, same ad cards. This deck definitely had smoother, nicer edges than the Standards from my last brick, but I can't say with any certainty that this isn't a single-run anomaly.

For comparison and dating, the most recent brick of Standards I pulled from Costco had a code of 3511-N1623H. The 807 deck had a code of 2811-N1619H. I assume, but do not know with certainty, that the first four digits are week and year of manufacture, putting the Standards seven weeks younger than these new 807-tagged Rider Backs.

I hope this is another transitional use of the UPC, and that the era of the "Standard" box is coming to an end. Anyone got an ear at USPC?

dmbaggs · « **Reply #16 on:** January 15, 2012, 10:55:24 PM »

Crazy! What Fred Meyer in Portland??

Aaron · « **Reply #17 on:** January 15, 2012, 10:56:05 PM »

I will send an E-Mail to USPCC and see if I can get some info on tese

and POST 13000 in the plethora!!

Masque · « **Reply #18 on:** January 15, 2012, 10:57:48 PM »

Quote from: brown_baggs on January 15, 2012, 10:55:24 PM

Crazy! What Fred Meyer in Portland??

Clackamas.

Quote from: Aaron on January 15, 2012, 10:56:05 PM

I will send an E-Mail to USPCC and see if I can get some info on tese

Thanks! Should be interesting.

dmbaggs · « **Reply #19 on:** January 15, 2012, 11:37:20 PM »

I'll have to go check that out. See if they still have any!

@Aaron let us know if you find anything out!

Masque · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2012, 02:57:41 AM »

Okay, I officially don't know what's going on anymore. I just found 8 black-sealed 807-R-TGs with -very- tight cellophane, much as it is on recent production. To be clear, these are all the old boxes which say Cincinnati on the side. Now we all know these can contain Erlanger cards, right? Well, I got them home and opened one up… and inside was a colored Joker.

Oh, and a perfect faro right out of the box. These are quite clearly *not* early Kentucky cards. These seem in every way to be 2011 production.

Maybe they found a stack of old boxes? Very, very strange. But on the upside, I now have a few practice decks with elegant boxes, I guess.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2012, 03:18:06 AM »

Quote from: Masque on January 18, 2012, 02:57:41 AM

Okay, I officially don't know what's going on anymore. I just found 8 black-sealed 807-R-TGs with -very- tight cellophane, much as it is on recent production. To be clear, these are all the old boxes which say Cincinnati on the side. Now we all know these can contain Erlanger cards, right? Well, I got them home and opened one up… and inside was a colored Joker.

Oh, and a perfect faro right out of the box. These are quite clearly *not* early Kentucky cards. These seem in every way to be 2011 production.

Maybe they found a stack of old boxes? Very, very strange. But on the upside, I now have a few practice decks with elegant boxes, I guess.

Now, were these the really old 807-R-TGs, or were they the newer ones with the 2011 copyright and microtext about Jarden and Erlanger? Because if not, they simply may have been old decks from the 2009 transition. It's entirely possible they were made in Ohio, since the black-seal decks on Ohio boxes were made in BOTH factories, with the Ohio ones being of superior quality in the opinion of most of the buyers who got them and log in here. If it's a 2011 deck, then yes, it's going to handle much better than the old ones did - the "working out the kinks" period was largely between 2009 and 2010, with the bugs being pretty much eliminated by the 2011 print runs. And yes, it's not beyond believability that they're simply new cards in old boxes that USPC didn't want to waste, since they cost money, despite that it would be thought of as deceptive to their customers and certain government agencies that regular these kinds of things...

Use the Ace of Spades code and try to determine what year they were made.

Masque · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2012, 03:35:53 AM »

Words can be tricky. Here's an image; I think you'll see the box with Cincinnati on the side as I described, and the cards very clearly being 2011 production from Erlanger. Weird, weird, weird.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:04:16 AM »

Quote from: Masque on January 18, 2012, 03:35:53 AM

Words can be tricky. Here's an image; I think you'll see the box with Cincinnati on the side as I described, and the cards very clearly being 2011 production from Erlanger. Weird, weird, weird.

It's hard to definitely say what year they were printed - the N code on all the charts I've seen hasn't been used since 1910! One site even claimed that the USPC stopped using the AoS codes in 2009 - obviously not true, since we're still seeing decks with them.

However, since 2000 the letter part of the code went back to A and has gone up one letter each year since (except "B" was used in 1996 and was left out of the 2000-present cycle). Assuming N didn't get skipped in this cycle as it has been for so long, this year would be "N". As confirmation, I looked at the photos of the newly-released USPC version of the Steam Punk deck from T11, and its AoS has an "N" code on it.

This would lead to the conclusion, barring any non-circumstantial supporting evidence directly from a rep of USPC, that your cards were printed in 2011, but that your box dates back to the Ohio factory. Or they're devious and clever forgeries!

That STILL doesn't explain the box that started this thread - a "Classic" style box with Erlanger and (c) 2011 on it. I'm seriously hoping that the USPC just dropped the lame-looking "Standard" style box and reverted back to the "Classic" model.

EDIT: take note of this, from the cypressfilms.com page on dating playing cards:

"Since there are many dates for each letter, you should look at the tax stamp (if any), design of the ace of Spades, and style of the box (if any!) to determine the correct year for the deck. It is also worth noting that older decks can often be found in newer boxes, and vice versa, presumably because inventory of boxes and decks did not always run out at the same time."

So this isn't an uncommon thing, just the first time it happened since the company relocated to a new factory in another city. Thus, the old box you have doesn't list the same city as the guarantee joker card from that box does.

Masque · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2012, 12:37:06 PM »

I agree with your points. The colored joker, the xx11 first four digits, the N code, the KY guarantee - obviously 2011 Erlanger cards. And pretty clearly just an old-stock box. Pretty strange.

So to me what this says is that even though the old 808 UPC became the 'Standard' deck, the 807 UPC carried on the traditional Rider Back box not just through the OH->KY transition, but up through now. And now that the stock of 807-R-TG boxes is depleted, they have printed a new 807 box, as seen in the first post in this thread.

And that, my friends, is interesting.

Anyhow, now that I've exhausted my local supplies of 807s, we'll see what they restock with...

Don Boyer · « **Reply #25 on:** January 18, 2012, 02:49:20 PM »

Quote from: Masque on January 18, 2012, 12:37:06 PM

I agree with your points. The colored joker, the xx11 first four digits, the N code, the KY guarantee - obviously 2011 Erlanger cards. And pretty clearly just an old-stock box. Pretty strange.

So to me what this says is that even though the old 808 UPC became the 'Standard' deck, the 807 UPC carried on the traditional Rider Back box not just through the OH->KY transition, but up through now. And now that the stock of 807-R-TG boxes is depleted, they have printed a new 807 box, as seen in the first post in this thread.

And that, my friends, is interesting.

Anyhow, now that I've exhausted my local supplies of 807s, we'll see what they restock with...

I'm looking forward to hear the next development in this mystery...

And I still want to see that 2011 classic-style box in my local shops!

walther · « **Reply #26 on:** January 18, 2012, 07:13:23 PM »

How about this. I went to check Walmart and Target to see if by chance we had any of these and I noticed a stack of standard bikes both Red and Blue, but the tear strip said 125th Anniversary Collectors Set. I'm guessing these were supposed to be used with the 2pack sets? I didn't see any of the actual 125th versions anywhere as individual packs or any more of the 2pack sets.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #27 on:** January 18, 2012, 11:47:18 PM »

There was a set for the 125th anniversary decks that included Rider Backs - these decks were either separated from the sets or the extra tear strips left over from those sets were used up on these ordinary Bikes.

Aaron · « **Reply #28 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:05:06 AM »

So I never got an email back I will see if I ever do. I think it is a little odd that all these new boxes are coming out.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #29 on:** January 19, 2012, 11:43:30 AM »

Quote from: Aaron on January 19, 2012, 01:05:06 AM

So I never got an email back I will see if I ever do. I think it is a little odd that all these new boxes are coming out.

USPC relocated an entire factory and all the supplies to another state. They're probably still cracking open boxes of the supplies hauled in from Ohio. They're turning up now because to get the Kentucky factory going, they had to purchase new supplies first for them before getting the Ohio stuff trucked in. At least that's my educated guess. These kinds of things happen more often than you'd think.

Lushbob · « **Reply #30 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:21:53 PM »

Quote from: walther on January 18, 2012, 07:13:23 PM

How about this. I went to check Walmart and Target to see if by chance we had any of these and I noticed a stack of standard bikes both Red and Blue, but the tear strip said 125th Anniversary Collectors Set. I'm guessing these were supposed to be used with the 2pack sets? I didn't see any of the actual 125th versions anywhere as individual packs or any more of the 2pack sets.

Did the Standard decks have 125th Anniversary seals on them? Because the Anniversary 2 deck set that I picked up had a foil-free blue Anniversary deck, and a red Standard with an Anniversary seal. So, I'd guess if the decks you've found have the Anniversary seals, then maybe they're leftover decks.

On this point, does anyone know if there are Anniversary 2 deck sets with red foil-free Anniversary decks or blue Standards with Anniversary seals? I haven't seen any, but that's bearing in mind that I only have access to the limited few pictures that I could find. So, if anyone can tell me if they've seen any 2 deck Anniversary sets with anything other than the blue Anniversary deck and the red Standard, that'd be great. Cheers.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #31 on:** January 19, 2012, 06:40:22 PM »

Quote from: Lushbob on January 19, 2012, 12:21:53 PM

Quote from: walther on January 18, 2012, 07:13:23 PM
How about this. I went to check Walmart and Target to see if by chance we had any of these and I noticed a stack of standard bikes both Red and Blue, but the tear strip said 125th Anniversary Collectors Set. I'm guessing these were supposed to be used with the 2pack sets? I didn't see any of the actual 125th versions anywhere as individual packs or any more of the 2pack sets.

Did the Standard decks have 125th Anniversary seals on them? Because the Anniversary 2 deck set that I picked up had a foil-free blue Anniversary deck, and a red Standard with an Anniversary seal. So, I'd guess if the decks you've found have the Anniversary seals, then maybe they're leftover decks.

On this point, does anyone know if there are Anniversary 2 deck sets with red foil-free Anniversary decks or blue Standards with Anniversary seals? I haven't seen any, but that's bearing in mind that I only have access to the limited few pictures that I could find. So, if anyone can tell me if they've seen any 2 deck Anniversary sets with anything other than the blue Anniversary deck and the red Standard, that'd be great. Cheers.

The 125th boxes don't actually have those "125th anniversary" tear strips on them, according to this photo:
http://www.atomicmall.com/view.php?id=886953&mba=0

Maybe only the two-deck standard/125th set did.

This BMPokerWorld eBay auction on ebay.com.sg is for the set, which has a red standard deck
http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/BICYCLE-125TH-ANNIVERSARY-SPECIAL-EDT-BOX-PLAYING-CARDS-/250623202816?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5a4e9600

This ALSO doesn't have the 125 tear strip described above. I'm just guessing here, but perhaps they just started using them for regular boxes because the order of tear strips didn't arrive in time for the 125th deck. Or maybe they did it to heighten awareness of the 125th anniversary itself, which would make sense if the deck was printed and boxed in 2010.

...or maybe Walther is very clever with photo editing software...

Gunshy1 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2012, 12:54:35 AM »

it took me digging through my collection, but the 125th single boxes do have the anniversary tear strip.

p.s. do you store your collection vertically or lying down?

Don Boyer · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2012, 01:19:35 AM »

Quote from: Gunshy1 on January 20, 2012, 12:54:35 AM

it took me digging through my collection, but the 125th single boxes do have the anniversary tear strip.

p.s. do you store your collection vertically or lying down?

Both at different times. I rotate things around.

Re the tear strips: I linked to photos showing them without. Only conclusion to draw is they used both interchangeably.

walther · « **Reply #34 on:** January 20, 2012, 10:59:10 AM »

Quote from: Lushbob on January 19, 2012, 12:21:53 PM

Quote from: walther on January 18, 2012, 07:13:23 PM
How about this. I went to check Walmart and Target to see if by chance we had any of these and I noticed a stack of standard bikes both Red and Blue, but the tear strip said 125th Anniversary Collectors Set. I'm guessing these were supposed to be used with the 2pack sets? I didn't see any of the actual 125th versions anywhere as individual packs or any more of the 2pack sets.

Did the Standard decks have 125th Anniversary seals on them? Because the Anniversary 2 deck set that I picked up had a foil-free blue Anniversary deck, and a red Standard with an Anniversary seal. So, I'd guess if the decks you've found have the Anniversary seals, then maybe they're leftover decks.

Just a Standard Black Seal. Opened them up to see if the cards were mis-boxed... and guess what? .... Nothing special, just a standard deck. So, it's just the tear strip that was different. I believe it was 2009 on the box. Crap, Now I'll have to check again when I get home tonight. I don't think there's anything special/rare or anything about them, just another Walmart/Target oddity. And now they have boxes with Coupon Code insert cards to purchase more decks. I'll trade you a funky Walmart deck for a funky Target deck

You know, that pic does seem odd/fake now that I look at it again. I just dropped it on my scanner instead of getting out the camera

Sorry, I really didn't mean to Hi-Jack this thread.....

Lushbob · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:26:43 PM »

Quote from: walther on January 20, 2012, 10:59:10 AM

Just a Standard Black Seal. Opened them up to see if the cards were mis-boxed... and guess what? .... Nothing special, just a standard deck. So, it's just the tear strip that was different. I believe it was 2009 on the box. Crap, Now I'll have to check again when I get home tonight. I don't think there's anything special/rare or anything about them, just another Walmart/Target oddity. And now they have boxes with Coupon Code insert cards to purchase more decks. I'll trade you a funky Walmart deck for a funky Target deck

You know, that pic does seem odd/fake now that I look at it again. I just dropped it on my scanner instead of getting out the camera

Sorry, I really didn't mean to Hi-Jack this thread.....

Hm. Interesting. I wonder why they've put those tear strips on them? Maybe it's a separate thing to the Anniversary decks - maybe it's just celebrating the actual Anniversary? Although it's a bit late now... I honestly don't know what they're doing.
I wish I lived in the USA so that I could find these funky decks from stores in real life. Instead, I have to find about them second hand from you guys, and if I really want to buy them, I have to pay the inflated prices! Ah, the downsides of living in the UK.

Just to clear it up, I don't dislike hearing about these things from you guys. It's really very helpful!

Back on topic, though, I really would like to get some of these 'new 807' decks. Anyone willing to pick up a couple for me and sell them at the price they bought them?

Aaron · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2012, 09:51:28 PM »

My 125th aniversary decks have the 125th colectors set tear strips.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #37 on:** January 21, 2012, 01:38:09 AM »

Quote from: walther on January 20, 2012, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: Lushbob on January 19, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: walther on January 18, 2012, 07:13:23 PM
How about this. I went to check Walmart and Target to see if by chance we had any of these and I noticed a stack of standard bikes both Red and Blue, but the tear strip said 125th Anniversary Collectors Set. I'm guessing these were supposed to be used with the 2pack sets? I didn't see any of the actual 125th versions anywhere as individual packs or any more of the 2pack sets.

Did the Standard decks have 125th Anniversary seals on them? Because the Anniversary 2 deck set that I picked up had a foil-free blue Anniversary deck, and a red Standard with an Anniversary seal. So, I'd guess if the decks you've found have the Anniversary seals, then maybe they're leftover decks.
Just a Standard Black Seal. Opened them up to see if the cards were mis-boxed... and guess what? .... Nothing special, just a standard deck. So, it's just the tear strip that was different. I believe it was 2009 on the box. Crap, Now I'll have to check again when I get home tonight. I don't think there's anything special/rare or anything about them, just another Walmart/Target oddity. And now they have boxes with Coupon Code insert cards to purchase more decks. I'll trade you a funky Walmart deck for a funky Target deck

You know, that pic does seem odd/fake now that I look at it again. I just dropped it on my scanner instead of getting out the camera

Sorry, I really didn't mean to Hi-Jack this thread.....

Walther, the anniversary strips weren't available on any decks until the anniversary - in 2010.

@Lushbob - I would if I could, but my fiancee is getting on my case about international shipments for card trades, owning to the shipping costs. Sorry, bro.

walther · « **Reply #38 on:** January 21, 2012, 12:05:29 PM »

The date was just the copyright date on the box
Just to complete the info:
Box - Standard Bikes - Black Seal - ©2009
AoS - 1411-N1612H
Ad Cards for - Jacks&Jokers and Royal Felt
From Erlanger, KY

Don Boyer · « **Reply #39 on:** January 24, 2012, 03:12:34 AM »

Quote from: walther on January 21, 2012, 12:05:29 PM

The date was just the copyright date on the box
Just to complete the info:
Box - Standard Bikes - Black Seal - ©2009
AoS - 1411-N1612H
Ad Cards for - Jacks&Jokers and Royal Felt
From Erlanger, KY

The "N" code on the Ace indicates it was manufactured in 2011! They cobbled together an old box and an old anniversary tear strip, probably leftover supplies they didn't want to waste by simply throwing them away.

Masque · « **Reply #40 on:** January 24, 2012, 12:57:50 PM »

I'm also 100% sure that the '1411' means 'produced in the 14th week of 2011'.

Aaron · « **Reply #41 on:** January 27, 2012, 01:09:06 AM »

Hey I got an email from them today:

The Classic Rider Back is still being manufactured in addition to the Standard Tuck Box.They can be ordered from www.murphysmagic.com It must be specified that you want the 807 (Classic Tuck Box)807-R-TG means that the tuck box was the old code for the Classic - R stands for Rack Tab (means they hang on a peg) and TG means that they were shipped to Target Stores. We had to have two different codes depending on which department in the store they were merchandised. Consumer Relations

Ashe · « **Reply #42 on:** August 18, 2015, 02:24:38 PM »

I just ordered 6 rider back decks from an online retailer 3 red and 3 blue in the 'Classic' tuck box. When I got my order and inspected 4 of the decks had the Kentucky trademark. 2 of the red decks are different, they say 807-R-TG on the bottom next to the bar code and have the made in Ohio lettering along the side. I did some research on these cards with little resolution, mostly was just speculation on what the code means. A bunch of online stores sell them as being 'very rare' limited run etc.

So are these decks rare? Should I not open them?

Don Boyer · « **Reply #43 on:** August 18, 2015, 04:36:50 PM »

First of all, precious little of the modern Rider Back line is rare these days. They were manufactured in the millions of units.

Second, I moved your topic to the Plethora and merged it with a pre-existing topic on the subject. We reserve A Cellar of Fine Vintages for topics on decks that are at least 20 years old.

Today, USPC still makes and sells the Classic box style, and they call it Bicycle 807. It's likely because of that barcode and serial number from the older 807-R-TG. The cards inside are identical in all ways to the cards found in any modern "Standard" style Bicycle Rider Back box, right down to being made in Kentucky. It was a "gimme" to collectors who preferred the older box style and magicians who have crafted tricks/gimmicks dependent on the older box style (there are many). While not commonly available, as you've noted you can order them online easily enough (Wingra Direct/shopbicyclecards.com carries them - they're owned by USPC and carry all the current mass-produced stock) and many magic shops and card dealers probably have them around or can order them. They're probably as hard to find as a late-model pack of Tally Ho.

The 807-R-TG is only rare in the sense that it's no longer in print (well, the box is no longer in print - the cards are another story). It's unknown exactly how many were made, but as far as I know, it came into use just prior to the shift to Erlanger and the release of the newer "Standard" box design. It appears to have been mass-produced, making it not too difficult to find - but it's a matter of talking to a retailer who knows what you're looking for, and most won't. The sticker seal is almost certain to be black and the cards inside are likely made in Erlanger, despite what the box says. If the seal is blue or red, it might be Cincinnati stock, but I haven't seen any of that model with a seal other than black. Black-sealed decks from the late 2000s are almost to a deck made in Erlanger. They used up the leftover boxes from Cincinnati, filling them with Erlanger-made cards.

The newer 807 boxes have the same exact barcode as the older 807-R-TG boxes. It's probably why they came together in your shipment - USPC and retailers consider them as essentially the same product; the new or old packaging to them makes no difference.