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Cardini change vs ego change?
« on: December 27, 2012, 08:28:42 PM »
 

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What's the difference between the cardini and the ego change? Just curious is all.

I was "passed down" the "Coffin Change" by my magic instructor about three years ago and when I started doing it on my vids everyone referred to it as a Cardini or ego change.

My teacher said the coffin change is a Hoffman's move but I honestly don't think so. He's been wrong a couple of times regarding sources but he knows his stuff... he once referred my le paul spread as the "Hoffman's hand to hand Spread"

They all look the same and end the same but I'm guessing the method is the main difference?
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Re: Cardini change vs ego change?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 09:54:44 PM »
 

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I've always been confused by the two also and have heard them used interchangeably. But I know Daniel Garcia created the ego change and the Cardini is older.
The Coffin Change is different though. The Cardini and the Ego pull the top card off by pressing down with the pinky while the Coffin clips the card between the pinky (underneath) and the ring (above) and then pulls.
 

Re: Cardini change vs ego change?
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 10:40:04 PM »
 

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The Coffin Change is different though. The Cardini and the Ego pull the top card off by pressing down with the pinky while the Coffin clips the card between the pinky (underneath) and the ring (above) and then pulls.

Ohhh... Yeah the Coffin Change is definitely different than both Cardini and Ego. I was taught the Coffin Change wrong for sure.

Now the real mystery... what's the difference between Ego and the Cardini change? If they're the same then I guess the mystery is why are there different names for it?
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Re: Cardini change vs ego change?
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 12:10:34 AM »
 

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The Coffin Change is different though. The Cardini and the Ego pull the top card off by pressing down with the pinky while the Coffin clips the card between the pinky (underneath) and the ring (above) and then pulls.

Ohhh... Yeah the Coffin Change is definitely different than both Cardini and Ego. I was taught the Coffin Change wrong for sure.

Now the real mystery... what's the difference between Ego and the Cardini change? If they're the same then I guess the mystery is why are there different names for it?


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Re: Cardini change vs ego change?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 10:30:10 PM »
 

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So is the cardini and ego change the same or not?
 

Re: Cardini change vs ego change?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2013, 04:49:54 PM »
 

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Both changes are the same
just different ways of moving the cover hand and the way of waving
Remember guys : The name isn't important it's all about MAGIC
« Last Edit: February 05, 2013, 04:50:15 PM by ibrahimjaber »
 

Re: Cardini change vs ego change?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 01:10:49 AM »
 

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I've wondered this same thing myself. I always referred to it as the coffin change or the Cardini change, Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Ray Kosby used this change quite a bit. I remember my friends and i watching his VHS tapes and loving the change. I never understood when credit for this change shifted to Daniel Garcia. I always thought it was basically the same move with different cover....then again though people now are so quick to scoop up claim and not properly research it doesn't surprise me the truth is a bit in the gray. No offense intended to anyone in particular just making a general statement.

ibrahimjaber : I don't mean to offend you at all, but to me the name isn't important but the credit is. If we forget who created these moves then their contributions to our art is lost and therefore any future magician wanting to learn may not stumble onto a piece of lost magic tucked away in a book somewhere while their trying to reaserch a sleight because they were told it was Daniel Garcia's ego change and not the cardini change. Our art grows as we build on the magicians before us...not reinvent the wheel. Again i mean no disrespect, just my thoughts.
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Re: Cardini change vs ego change?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2013, 01:18:24 PM »
 

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I've wondered this same thing myself. I always referred to it as the coffin change or the Cardini change, Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Ray Kosby used this change quite a bit. I remember my friends and i watching his VHS tapes and loving the change. I never understood when credit for this change shifted to Daniel Garcia. I always thought it was basically the same move with different cover....then again though people now are so quick to scoop up claim and not properly research it doesn't surprise me the truth is a bit in the gray. No offense intended to anyone in particular just making a general statement.

ibrahimjaber : I don't mean to offend you at all, but to me the name isn't important but the credit is. If we forget who created these moves then their contributions to our art is lost and therefore any future magician wanting to learn may not stumble onto a piece of lost magic tucked away in a book somewhere while their trying to reaserch a sleight because they were told it was Daniel Garcia's ego change and not the cardini change. Our art grows as we build on the magicians before us...not reinvent the wheel. Again i mean no disrespect, just my thoughts.

I respect your opinion & I agree with you
what I meant is that WE magicians should focus on effects because Spectators may never knew who actually created the effect
but as Magicians we must always respect the original creator :)