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Design & Development / Re: Quick question - design copy?
« Last post by Don Boyer on May 23, 2017, 12:15:21 AM »
Thanks Don.

This is still a work in progress with a few layers roughly overlaid, I was just concerned about the Kings hat and clothes which I though resembled another project. I'm not sure if seeing so many decks subconsiously implants ideas into your mind, so just double checking :)

It looks like it's got some elements of cyberpunk in the design - pretty interesting choice, I think.  I've seen very little by way of cyberpunk in decks, most people preferring to make steampunk designs instead.  Cyberpunk is starting to experience a little bit of a revival, so your timing with this could be fortuitous.
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Playing Card Plethora / Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Last post by Don Boyer on May 23, 2017, 12:10:02 AM »
You another look at the KS video:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zeedog/vertex-deck-vxd-las-vegas-edition

You'll notice that all the standard spade pips holographics also do not conform to the rules of the flag. Then take a look at the stars and also the stripes on the blue and red metal cases...they also do not conform.

Do not try to suggest I am disrespecting any flag / tradition / country or whatever else. It is art!

As to your veiled accusation regarding KS rules and my printing....totally baseless. What are your motivations for such an accusation I wonder.

Based on the negativity and the accusations, I can see I'm not welcome here. So I will no longer post.

You clearly need to take a nice, deep breath and relax a little.

So all of your spade pips with flag images do not conform to the rules for displaying an American flag.  You can call that art, sure.  I won't deny you your right to do so - I don't know what country you're in, but America is a relatively free country with a fairly liberal policy towards free expression.  But there may be people who would take offense, or who at the very least would think you don't know enough about your subject to display it correctly.  Why risk losing even a single sale over something so small and easily corrected, especially when you haven't printed your decks yet?  Are you that married to the design as it is that you're unwilling to make any modifications?

Did anyone, myself included, accuse you of violating Kickstarter rules?  Or did we simply point out that, as you're not in violation of Kickstarter rules and haven't yet printed your decks, you have time to make a correction that might just increase your sales by a few decks?

You're free to post or not post - it's entirely up to you.  We prefer that all people here, deck producers and deck collectors, freely express themselves in a respectful manner - and agreeing with everything that's said by any person isn't mandatory.  If everyone agreed with everyone here, this place would get dull fast.  A truly professional designer needs to have a thick skin when it comes to critiques of their work and be willing to hear what the buying public has to say.  We'd prefer to hear you address what people have to say about your work rather than getting defensive, but if you'd rather not talk to potential customers, that's your decision.

As far as me personally, I'm not a huge fan of the overall design of this deck, but I'm very intrigued by the manufacturing process and its potential for other projects.  It looks like you could potentially become the next popular deck manufacturer, on par with other popular companies people around here talk about and order their decks from.  But if you prefer to take pouty attitude when people try to point out your design's shortcomings, good luck finding artists interested in working with you.  People here want to see the bar raised higher and higher, so yes, they will point out shortfalls and mistakes - because they want to see everyone making the best decks they can, decks they are eager to purchase, rather than decks that fall short by just enough to keep them from wanting to buy them.

So if we don't hear from you again, best of luck to you.
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90% funded with 6 days to go!!!   :bosswalk:
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Design & Development / Re: Quick question - design copy?
« Last post by Fud on May 22, 2017, 04:36:51 PM »
Thanks Don.

This is still a work in progress with a few layers roughly overlaid, I was just concerned about the Kings hat and clothes which I though resembled another project. I'm not sure if seeing so many decks subconsiously implants ideas into your mind, so just double checking :)
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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The 2017 Release List
« Last post by PrincessTrouble on May 22, 2017, 11:21:38 AM »
Visa by Patrick Kun and Alex Pandrea
Shipped in May 2017
Printed by USPC
(Available in Blue, Red, and White editions.)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/visaplayingcards/visa-playing-cards-patrick-kun-x-alex-pandrea


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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The 2017 Release List
« Last post by PrincessTrouble on May 22, 2017, 11:14:50 AM »
Midgard by Design Imperator
Shipped in May 2017
Printed by NPCC
(Available in Danegeld and Yggdrasil editions.)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/653481781/midgard-playing-cards

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Last post by skinny on May 22, 2017, 11:06:13 AM »
I think Don is suggesting that, since they haven't been printed yet (we know they haven't been printed yet, as the funding hasn't been completed), there is time to make a change (if you want).

Depending on the current stage of production, it should be pretty easy to do (if you want).

I didn't say "You're a disrespectful America hater!" and Don didn't say "You've already printed, cheater!" The things we've said have been an attempt to be helpful, seriously.

Please continue to post. You have brought something new to our obvious area of interest and that's always welcome.
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Playing Card Plethora / Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Last post by VXDplayingcards on May 22, 2017, 08:05:17 AM »
You another look at the KS video:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zeedog/vertex-deck-vxd-las-vegas-edition

You'll notice that all the standard spade pips holographics also do not conform to the rules of the flag. Then take a look at the stars and also the stripes on the blue and red metal cases...they also do not conform.

Do not try to suggest I am disrespecting any flag / tradition / country or whatever else. It is art!

As to your veiled accusation regarding KS rules and my printing....totally baseless. What are your motivations for such an accusation I wonder.

Based on the negativity and the accusations, I can see I'm not welcome here. So I will no longer post.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Last post by Don Boyer on May 22, 2017, 06:48:23 AM »
I guess this will have to be part of this first edition's 'quirk' or 'charm' then, if that's the case. I shall be sure to prepare myself for being arrested at the airport.

It's a sign of respect to a US patriotic symbol to treat it in the manner it's meant to be treated.  While some may or may not be offended, it does show a glaring lack of knowledge about the subject matter of your deck.

You might consider correcting the design before going to print - you haven't printed the decks yet, right?  Because if you had, you'd be in violation of Kickstarter's terms of service, which require that project creators use their funds for the creation of their project, thus can't sell pre-made projects that have already been created...
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Design & Development / Re: Quick question - design copy?
« Last post by Don Boyer on May 22, 2017, 06:42:44 AM »
Hi Everyone,

Quick question - I was discussing a design concept I have been working on with another artist, showed him my progress, etc. He had an idea on the design so made an edit of my first draft below. I keep thinking it looks like the same design from another deck though - am I just imagining things or has he just copied a design? Something about the hat rings bells.

Thanks

It's only familiar to me in that it resembles a cross between a crown and a traditional jester's cap.  You don't usually see the tops of the court character's crowns because they get cut off at the white border surrounding the artwork.

I don't think I've seen anything like it before, but I don't see everything that comes out these days.  Personally, I like it - it at least looks like someone put a bit of thought and effort into it.

I'd suggest giving the index a little more "breathing room" from the art - perhaps just a little bit of white space.  It'll make the index more distinct and easier to see and read.  Also, bring the index heart closer to the index value - they seem too far apart.
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