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« on: January 14, 2015, 10:33:13 AM »
 

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Hey Everyone,

I wanted to give everyone a sneak peek into the next project Gonzo and I are working on.  The next project is inspired by the Wild West!
There is going to be 2 decks the Lawman Deck and the Outlaw Deck.  Each deck will have different court cards and different backs.  Lawman Deck will have famous lawman of the wild west and the outlaw deck will have famous outlaws. 

Here is the card we are working on for the Lawman Deck, King of Spades - Wyatt Earp. This is the first version, card could be modified.  I just wanted to share with everyone what we are working on.  Gonzo is hand drawing the court cards now and then we will be working on the illustrations.

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2015, 07:20:45 PM »
 

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IMHO:

- don't like the combination of big Spades pips and revolvers. Try to substitute the name of this hero with some Spades big pip.
- the name can be under small spades pips (indices) - upright.
- try to remove the frame at all.

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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2015, 04:22:54 PM »
 

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Hey Everyone,  We are back to the Wild West Decks! 
There will be two different decks in this project.  The Lawman Deck will have lawmen and women from the Wild West as the face cards.  The Outlaw deck will have the Outlaws of the Wild West.  Each Deck will be different, different backs, colors, tuck boxes and of course face cards.  With this project I am also going to have poker chips, cases and a coin.  I have been interested in the wild west since I was little.  Living in Arizona I have been fortunate to have been surrounded by elements from the wild west my whole life.   I remember going to Tombstone as a child to watch the Wild West Shows in Old Tucson.
More information to come as Gonzo and I complete the cards.  All cards are hand drawn and then illustrated.  Wyatt Earp is our 1st card in the Lawman Deck.  Deck arriving on Kickstarter in Early 2016.   
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2015, 04:24:27 PM »
 

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Hey Everyone, 

We made some changes from the 1st pic,  We took some suggestions and moved the spade over which I think makes a big difference.  Here is the updated version. 

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 12:25:00 AM »
 

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Hey Everyone, 

We made some changes from the 1st pic,  We took some suggestions and moved the spade over which I think makes a big difference.  Here is the updated version.

What if you put the spade on the right of the head instead of the left, slightly reduced the size of the lettering in Earp's name and placed that between the pistol barrel and the index?  Having the gun AND the spade on the same side seems cluttered.  Also try a lighter shade for the font - that will help to reduce the look of clutter.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 10:39:41 AM »
 

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Hey Don,  Thanks for the suggestions, I will check that out and see how it looks, 

Thanks!
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 05:29:43 PM »
 

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What a fun theme and the art looks great!

In the classic deck, the King of Spades faces right, I think if you just flipped your king, you won't have any more issues with the revolver blocking the pip. And I do like the larger pip on the card, personally. Just adjust the text around his revolver as Don suggested, too.

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2015, 11:18:04 AM »
 

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I love the illustration style, and the palate looks great! I would recommend removing the name entirely, it makes the card look gimmicky, use the add card to list who each royal card is akin to how Jackson Robinson has and I think you will clean the design up a lot and open your deck up to people who are more hesitant to pick up a novelty deck
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2015, 03:05:17 PM »
 

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What a fun theme and the art looks great!

In the classic deck, the King of Spades faces right, I think if you just flipped your king, you won't have any more issues with the revolver blocking the pip. And I do like the larger pip on the card, personally. Just adjust the text around his revolver as Don suggested, too.

Good luck!

Thanks for the suggestions, Yes that might work out great.  Glad you like the direction we are going.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2015, 03:06:58 PM »
 

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I love the illustration style, and the palate looks great! I would recommend removing the name entirely, it makes the card look gimmicky, use the add card to list who each royal card is akin to how Jackson Robinson has and I think you will clean the design up a lot and open your deck up to people who are more hesitant to pick up a novelty deck

Thanks Justin for the suggestions, I really appreciate all of the suggestions.  We will test out some different options.  Thanks again, glad you like the style!
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2015, 05:34:46 PM »
 

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Hey Everyone!  Here are some sketches for the Back of the Outlaw Deck.  I wanted to have some key elements on the back of the card but there are some different ways we thought of how the layout could go.  Keep in mind these are just sketches :)  Let me know which one out of the three you like best!

Thanks,
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2015, 03:37:18 AM »
 

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Hey Everyone!  Here are some sketches for the Back of the Outlaw Deck.  I wanted to have some key elements on the back of the card but there are some different ways we thought of how the layout could go.  Keep in mind these are just sketches :)  Let me know which one out of the three you like best!

Thanks,

My thoughts: take the third design, but make the guns smaller and with longer barrels.  The "six-shooter" cylinder will more clearly dominate the center space and the barrels will form a more perfect diamond shape around it.  Maybe fill in the negative space between the barrels and the cylinder with black and make the barrels and cylinder in either metallic silver ink or silver foil.  THAT would look mighty impressive.

Do a little research on the engraving work found on the flashier examples of classic "Wild West" era guns and use that as the model not just for what's on your guns but also for what you're using in the background.

You could use the same overall design for the Outlaw and Lawman decks - just take the bandana off the Outlaw and put a sheriff's star on the ten-gallon hat to make the Lawman design - with a suitable change in background color to make the decks very easy to tell apart, naturally.
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2015, 10:11:39 AM »
 

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I really like Don's suggestions. I would only add the hat band looks more like it belongs on a Fedora not a Western hat.
 

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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2015, 02:30:23 PM »
 

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I really like the illustration style of the faces and the third back design. However, I'd almost like to see a Wild West town inspiration or landscape as the background of the back design. Will the back design sketches have the same illustration style and feel as the faces?
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Looking good :)
The illustration (KoS) has a fresh and clean look with plenty of character. With the back, I agree that the 3rd one is looking best - Don's advice to make the guns smaller while lengthening the chambers sounds good and I also like Paul's idea of the Wild West inspired landscape ... Perhaps a mountain scape, where simple lines would put more focus on the detail in the foreground ... :)
 

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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2016, 01:26:34 AM »
 

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Hey Everyone!  Here are some sketches for the Back of the Outlaw Deck.  I wanted to have some key elements on the back of the card but there are some different ways we thought of how the layout could go.  Keep in mind these are just sketches :)  Let me know which one out of the three you like best!

Thanks,

My thoughts: take the third design, but make the guns smaller and with longer barrels.  The "six-shooter" cylinder will more clearly dominate the center space and the barrels will form a more perfect diamond shape around it.  Maybe fill in the negative space between the barrels and the cylinder with black and make the barrels and cylinder in either metallic silver ink or silver foil.  THAT would look mighty impressive.

Do a little research on the engraving work found on the flashier examples of classic "Wild West" era guns and use that as the model not just for what's on your guns but also for what you're using in the background.

You could use the same overall design for the Outlaw and Lawman decks - just take the bandana off the Outlaw and put a sheriff's star on the ten-gallon hat to make the Lawman design - with a suitable change in background color to make the decks very easy to tell apart, naturally.

Hey Don thanks for the tips.  Good tips about the guns.  You read my mind on the engraving, that is my idea for the engraving on the back.  Since this is just a sketch we did not go into detail on the engraving.  I am thinking of having the card mainly silver and black.  I have sketched up a different back for the lawman deck.  Working on a couple of ideas I have.  Thinking of having a badge as the main focus point on the lawman deck.
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2016, 01:28:39 AM »
 

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I really like the illustration style of the faces and the third back design. However, I'd almost like to see a Wild West town inspiration or landscape as the background of the back design. Will the back design sketches have the same illustration style and feel as the faces?

Hey thanks Paul,Yes back will have the same illustration style as the faces, we will tie everything in together.  This was just some sketches for placement and idea before we get the final draft going. 
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2016, 01:29:25 AM »
 

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Looking good :)
The illustration (KoS) has a fresh and clean look with plenty of character. With the back, I agree that the 3rd one is looking best - Don's advice to make the guns smaller while lengthening the chambers sounds good and I also like Paul's idea of the Wild West inspired landscape ... Perhaps a mountain scape, where simple lines would put more focus on the detail in the foreground ... :)

Thanks for the feedback!
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2016, 01:30:12 AM »
 

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I really like Don's suggestions. I would only add the hat band looks more like it belongs on a Fedora not a Western hat.

Thanks for the feedback, glad everyone is liking the backs.  Seems like the 3rd design is standing out.
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2016, 11:21:02 AM »
 

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Hey Everyone, So I have the illustrated art for the Outlaw deck. I decided to go with the third one. Here are a couple of color options, still working on which colors to use. I would like to use like a black and silverish color. Maybe put in metallic silver (maybe stretch goal of metallic ink or foil) , still not sure yet.
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Nice update :) I like the first one the most - even though it is darker 'all over' the design flows nicely and all the elements feel like they belong together :)

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Nice update :) I like the first one the most - even though it is darker 'all over' the design flows nicely and all the elements feel like they belong together :)

cheers a. :)
Thanks, That is the one I am leaning towards as well, maybe use metallic ink as a stretch goal for the silver/grayish color.
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Hey Everyone,  Here is the Lawman Deck Back.
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2016, 06:26:27 AM »
 

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Hey Everyone,  Here is the Lawman Deck Back.

Looks good, but I think it would look better without the words in the center.  Just repeat the six-pointed star motif in the middle of the badge, or make some other symmetrical design.  Card backs often look better without words in them; despite the idea of having a "label" of some kind in the middle of the star, I think it works better in this case without it.  It you really feel it necessary to have words, leave out the "USA" and replace "Lawman" with "Marshall" or "Sheriff" and it will look more like a traditional badge of the era while remaining symmetrical.  There's something about that "USA" that doesn't work with the design - the letters seem too modern in appearance.
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Hey Everyone,  Here is the Lawman Deck Back.

Looks good, but I think it would look better without the words in the center.  Just repeat the six-pointed star motif in the middle of the badge, or make some other symmetrical design.  Card backs often look better without words in them; despite the idea of having a "label" of some kind in the middle of the star, I think it works better in this case without it.  It you really feel it necessary to have words, leave out the "USA" and replace "Lawman" with "Marshall" or "Sheriff" and it will look more like a traditional badge of the era while remaining symmetrical.  There's something about that "USA" that doesn't work with the design - the letters seem too modern in appearance.

Thanks Don, Great advice as always.
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