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« on: June 30, 2012, 11:22:02 PM »
 

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Surprise! Special weekend release on the archive and blog due to a new deck revealing itself. 

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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 01:49:26 AM »
 

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Surprise! Special weekend release on the archive and blog due to a new deck revealing itself. 

The Oriental Playing Cards
http://pipsqueek.info/oriental/

& Related Blog Article

Linoid out of Retirement
http://pipsqueek.info/linoid-out-of-retirment/

A recommendation: proof-read more carefully.  It needs touch-up.  You want to look professional, write like a professional.

A question: You're CERTAIN that this is a revival of the "old school" Linoid finish, which probably hasn't been used in a few decades?  Because USPC doesn't generally 'fess up to the public about it ever having gone away in the first place, never mind that it's being "revived".  There's a certain amount of leeway that deck designers are given when naming the finish on their decks - basically, if it's not a USPC-branded deck, you can call it whatever you want, like Diamond Jim Tyler's "Apocalyptic Finish"...  Other "standard" finish decks in the past have been released with the Linoid Finish name on them, so you need to verify the facts on this carefully.
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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 09:25:44 AM »
 

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Here's some more info

Official Website: http://www.orientaldeck.com



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Release date: Aug 7th
It will only be sold in Asia



Designed by Micheal Lai & Toby Zhang ( morgan over at UC )

From Toby:

"This deck has Arrco court cards, and uses sliver metallic white ghost color."


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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2012, 09:46:28 AM »
 

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Well if this really does have a linoid finish then I've got a feeling these are going to be good handling wise if not very interesting.
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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 11:59:58 AM »
 

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Surprise! Special weekend release on the archive and blog due to a new deck revealing itself. 

The Oriental Playing Cards
http://pipsqueek.info/oriental/

& Related Blog Article

Linoid out of Retirement
http://pipsqueek.info/linoid-out-of-retirment/

A recommendation: proof-read more carefully.  It needs touch-up.  You want to look professional, write like a professional.



I always appreciate constructive criticism, but at what point did some of us loose the decency to privately say certain things.  Don you know I like to look professional but sometimes the way you say things are not meant for public eyes.  I would appreciate a little more professionalism for the site mod. 

Thanks
 

Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 01:41:14 PM »
 

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Surprise! Special weekend release on the archive and blog due to a new deck revealing itself. 

The Oriental Playing Cards
http://pipsqueek.info/oriental/

& Related Blog Article

Linoid out of Retirement
http://pipsqueek.info/linoid-out-of-retirment/

A recommendation: proof-read more carefully.  It needs touch-up.  You want to look professional, write like a professional.



I always appreciate constructive criticism, but at what point did some of us loose the decency to privately say certain things.  Don you know I like to look professional but sometimes the way you say things are not meant for public eyes.  I would appreciate a little more professionalism for the site mod. 

Thanks

I don't think it's an issue, really. The top blogs in the world make silly typos and grammatical errors. You yourself have posted criticism publicly here before to many people. My advice: If it's baseless, ignore it. If it has a standing, see what you can do about it.

Taking something to PM isn't implied here. The opposite is. I'm sure now that you've pointed that out, Don would be happy to continue the conversation privately.

On another note, I prefer this deck to the D&D releases as well as the USPC releases, based on what I see so far. I hope there is more contrast in the cards themselves though.

Thanks for the teaser, Rob! Keep us posted on developments.
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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 04:34:49 PM »
 

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Thanks Alex and your right.  I think at times though some advice can seem a bit firm to the touch and in those cases, it sould remain private out of respect for the person.  I would hope somone would hold me to the same standard. 
 

Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 12:28:04 AM »
 

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Thanks Alex and your right.  I think at times though some advice can seem a bit firm to the touch and in those cases, it sould remain private out of respect for the person.  I would hope somone would hold me to the same standard.

No insult was intended, Robert.  I just know that you want to put out a professional image, that's all.

More importantly - what about the questions regarding Linoid Finish?
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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 07:28:09 PM »
 

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These look really interesting and I especially love the box because it has a sort of Black Crown look on the front. I really hope these have the old Linoid finish because the handling would be great!
 

Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2012, 11:48:52 PM »
 

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These look really interesting and I especially love the box because it has a sort of Black Crown look on the front. I really hope these have the old Linoid finish because the handling would be great!

I don't know if you can say that with any authority, Evan - they probably stopped using Linoid Finish on Tally-Ho decks before you were born.  It would be hard to say either way until we actually had it in our hands.
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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2012, 10:58:36 PM »
 

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This pic was posted on their Facebook page.
I'm usually not a fan of Arrco faces but with these colors, they look great!

 

Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2012, 08:20:39 AM »
 

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Just my opinion, but all the "Asian" decks of late have the same major flaw. Mixing Asian design motifs with the totally incongruous European court cards. When will someone do an Asian theme and actually put in the effort to create Asian court characters?
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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2012, 11:48:21 AM »
 

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Just my opinion, but all the "Asian" decks of late have the same major flaw. Mixing Asian design motifs with the totally incongruous European court cards. When will someone do an Asian theme and actually put in the effort to create Asian court characters?


This is just a stab in the dark, but perhaps Asians themselves actually like the Anglicized French Rouen ("European") courts?  I'm told that playing cards are insanely popular in the East, in China in particular, with Bee probably being the best known Western brand (again, just a guess, but that's probably due to their popularity in casinos).  The domestic companies there are also using the Rouen courts more than other designs.  As odd as it may seem, the Rouen style is probably the one they're most familiar with and most comfortable with.
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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2012, 01:50:51 PM »
 

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There's no doubt that the Asian market is huge (probably 30% of my cards went there) but I was talking more in general terms of the thematic art. Sure, we are all familiar with the standard court, that's pretty much a given across cultures.

It's just disappointing (to me, maybe no one else cares) that no one yet has taken the leap to reinterpret things and do a custom deck. Samurai, Chinese Emperors, Concubines, there are so many options but instead we get a back design with asian characters and motifs and the king of England on the other side. Boring.
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2012, 05:28:18 PM »
 

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It's just disappointing (to me, maybe no one else cares) that no one yet has taken the leap to reinterpret things and do a custom deck. Samurai, Chinese Emperors, Concubines, there are so many options but instead we get a back design with asian characters and motifs and the king of England on the other side. Boring.

Your third deck, then?

I'd buy those.
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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 09:07:41 PM »
 

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There's no doubt that the Asian market is huge (probably 30% of my cards went there) but I was talking more in general terms of the thematic art. Sure, we are all familiar with the standard court, that's pretty much a given across cultures.

It's just disappointing (to me, maybe no one else cares) that no one yet has taken the leap to reinterpret things and do a custom deck. Samurai, Chinese Emperors, Concubines, there are so many options but instead we get a back design with asian characters and motifs and the king of England on the other side. Boring.


I can actually relate to that, really.  I remember the Samurai deck and the fifth Karnival deck, Ryujin, and being a little disappointed that they used standard courts.


Like Alex said, perhaps this will become your third deck...
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2012, 09:21:08 PM »
 

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There's no doubt that the Asian market is huge (probably 30% of my cards went there) but I was talking more in general terms of the thematic art. Sure, we are all familiar with the standard court, that's pretty much a given across cultures.

It's just disappointing (to me, maybe no one else cares) that no one yet has taken the leap to reinterpret things and do a custom deck. Samurai, Chinese Emperors, Concubines, there are so many options but instead we get a back design with asian characters and motifs and the king of England on the other side. Boring.
I would definitely buy a bunch of those. I've been waiting for someone to design a deck like that!
 

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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2012, 11:41:06 PM »
 

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There's no doubt that the Asian market is huge (probably 30% of my cards went there) but I was talking more in general terms of the thematic art. Sure, we are all familiar with the standard court, that's pretty much a given across cultures.

It's just disappointing (to me, maybe no one else cares) that no one yet has taken the leap to reinterpret things and do a custom deck. Samurai, Chinese Emperors, Concubines, there are so many options but instead we get a back design with asian characters and motifs and the king of England on the other side. Boring.
I would definitely buy a bunch of those. I've been waiting for someone to design a deck like that!

Now that I think of it, wasn't the Uusi Blue Blood deck sort of exactly what we're talking about?  European court values, but with more Asian-looking characters?  I tell you, that's a lovely deck.
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Re: Oriental Playing Cards
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2012, 01:16:56 AM »
 

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There's no doubt that the Asian market is huge (probably 30% of my cards went there) but I was talking more in general terms of the thematic art. Sure, we are all familiar with the standard court, that's pretty much a given across cultures.

It's just disappointing (to me, maybe no one else cares) that no one yet has taken the leap to reinterpret things and do a custom deck. Samurai, Chinese Emperors, Concubines, there are so many options but instead we get a back design with asian characters and motifs and the king of England on the other side. Boring.
I would definitely buy a bunch of those. I've been waiting for someone to design a deck like that!

Now that I think of it, wasn't the Uusi Blue Blood deck sort of exactly what we're talking about?  European court values, but with more Asian-looking characters?  I tell you, that's a lovely deck.
That's a good point! I love the faces of the Blue Blood but the backs are definitely not one of my favorites. I think if they had a different back, I would like them a lot more.
 

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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2012, 01:25:36 AM »
 

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Wasn't the Harlequin deck going to have a few decks made with a new experimental finish? If so could this be the "New Linoid" finish for this deck? Of course I'm strictly speculating here but couldn't they be using the experimental finish as the new "linoid" finish. Since I believe I heard the Harlequin deck isn't being produced anymore....care to speculate on this Alex?
 

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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2012, 04:53:43 AM »
 

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Wasn't the Harlequin deck going to have a few decks made with a new experimental finish? If so could this be the "New Linoid" finish for this deck? Of course I'm strictly speculating here but couldn't they be using the experimental finish as the new "linoid" finish. Since I believe I heard the Harlequin deck isn't being produced anymore....care to speculate on this Alex?

The Harlequin deck is Alex's second design.  There's some doubt about whether it will be made.

The "experimental finish" was actually placed on a limited number of Vortex decks.  It's highly unlikely that this is the "New Linoid Finish" this deck advertises.  The claims I've heard so far state that this is a revival of the old, original "Linoid Finish" that was being used on Tally Ho decks before USPC unified all the different traditional finishes into a single "standard" finish.

That I have a difficult time believing, personally.  I suspect it's simply standard finish with an old-finish name on it.  But I have no proof of either possibility or a different possibility that hadn't occurred to me.
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2012, 09:09:11 PM »
 

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Some new pics were just posted.
I love the look of the court cards and the colors they used for them and I really like the Ace of Spades a lot. The back design looks a little too plain for me and I'm not really feeling it.

 

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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2012, 08:54:00 AM »
 

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Some new pics were just posted.
I love the look of the court cards and the colors they used for them and I really like the Ace of Spades a lot. The back design looks a little too plain for me and I'm not really feeling it.

The backs are nice. A simple Japanese design.
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2012, 12:40:47 PM »
 

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I may be the only one who missed this but on their Facebook page, they said that these will only be available in Asia.
 

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2012, 01:21:37 AM »
 

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I may be the only one who missed this but on their Facebook page, they said that these will only be available in Asia.

No, most if not all of us knew this.  I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread.

I think you'll be able to find them in the US from after-market dealers, but at what markup is the question.
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