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Design & Development / Custom Double Pinochle Deck concept
« on: January 14, 2019, 10:25:01 PM »
I am working on a custom 112 card deck of cards which would primarily be useful for playing a new variation of Double Deck Pinochle, but can also be used to play interesting variations of other card games.  It would be Bicycle branded with the card faces having a variation of the standard Bicycle card faces.  The card backs would be custom.

The main purpose of the deck is to add a new level of strategy to card games by adding 4 Color Suits to the standard 4 standard suits.  When playing Pinochle with this deck the 4 Color Suits can be used to make melds as well as the standard suits, for example a Run of a Blue Jack, a Blue Queen, and a Blue King.  When playing tricks in Pinochle, the Color Suit of a card can be followed as well as the standard suit.  This applies to other meld forming games like Rummy, and trick-taking games like Bridge.

The deck would consist of 4 stripped decks with the Ranks of 9, 10, Jack, Queen, King, and Ace in the 4 standard suits (a Euchre deck of 24 cards), each in a different color.  In other words a Blue, Red, Green, and Purple Euchre deck, all with the same backs.  There would also be 4 Jokers, 1 in each color.  The set would use 2 uncut sheets for printing.

The deck would include Game Rules cards or a booklet with rules for playing Double Deck Pinochle, Pinochle, Euchre, Poker, and other games using the custom set.  There would also be a website with rules for variations of most popular card games.

The cards would have metallic gold ink on the front and back and possibly foil and embossing on the tuck box.  The artwork would be of a quality consistent with professionally designed decks.  The Tuck Box would be twice the thickness of a standard deck.  The Kickstarter Reward and retail price would be around $15.

I have seen other posts here where decks with more than the 4 standard suits are considered kind of amateur, but the extra suits in this deck have a purpose.

My question here would be, would the fact that it is not a standard deck of 52 cards plus jokers, and thicker than a standard deck, make it undesirable to custom card collectors or would it just be an interesting new type of custom deck?

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Design & Development / Upgrading printers as a Kickstarter stretch goal?
« on: November 22, 2017, 12:51:20 AM »
Is it reasonable to offer a custom deck on Kickstarter with MPC as the printer with stretch goals of upgrading to Expert Playing Card Company then upgrading to USPCC (possibly as a Bicycle brand as well)?

The main difference between these printers in terms of a total Kickstarter goal is the minimum print run.  USPCC has a minimum of 2500 decks, Expert has a minimum of 1,000 decks, and MPC has no minimum, but a practical minimum in terms of individual deck cost is 500 decks.

Using MPC would allow for a lower stretch goal with more possibility for success, then if the design is popular, the ability to upgrade the quality of the cards. Extras such as metallic inks, foil, and embossing could also be stretch goal options.

Would potential backers be influenced by these stretch goals?

Have any card designers used this method?

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The Conversation Parlor / The Multitude Game Set
« on: June 11, 2017, 10:49:31 PM »
I’ve designed a playing cards and dice set that may be of interest to the viewers of this forum.  It’s called the Multitude Game Set.

It contains custom playing cards, but they are designed for function, not for artistic, themed, or historic purposes like most of the custom playing card decks featured on this forum.  The influence for the game set did come from a custom playing card set though, one I designed called the Bicycle MYRIAD Playing Card Set.

The Multitude Game Set will be available on Kickstarter July 1st through July 30th.

The website for the game set is MultitudeGameSet.com.  http://multitudegameset.com

I welcome any comments regarding the game set.



Here is the basic information for the game set:


Introducing the Multitude Game Set. The Strategy of Cards. The Excitement of Dice.

Bring 50 games with you anywhere.

The Multitude Game Set features 50 different games.  All 50 games use BOTH cards and dice.

The box is small and easy to bring with you to game nights, poker nights, parties, camping, family gatherings, or just hanging out with friends. Most of the games are short, so you can play a few to several different games in the time it takes to play one typical board game.

Many of the games in this set are variations of popular card games which have been adapted to integrate dice into the game. There are also some variations of popular dice games which have been adapted to integrate cards.  There are also original Cards and Dice games.

This Game Set also includes Board Games which use cards and dice.  Some of the board games are inspired by classic board games and some are original. There are also some games that use dice rolling skills where accuracy is used to score points.

The Game Set includes a 2 piece cardboard game box, 72 Poker Size Cards, 8 large Game Board Cards, 50 12 millimeter Dice, and Game Rules booklet with 50 games.

The box and cards will be printed by MPC, MakePlayingCards.com, and the dice will be supplied by Chessex.

The website with information on the set, photos and illustrations, and game rules is MultitudeGameSet.com. The website also has links to the Twitter site and Facebook page.

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There are some obvious qualities a card design should have like proper indices, legibility, and a professional level of illustration, but there are more aspects that I don't fully understand.  There are designs with beautiful illustration that fail to meet their Kickstarter goal, and decks with mediocre artwork that do succeed.  There is clearly more to a successful deck than just the quality of the illustration or even the design.

I would, and I'm sure other card designers would, be interested in what makes a successful custom deck of playing cards.  I would be interested in the opinions of serious collectors and designers who have had success on Kickstarter.

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Playing Card Plethora / The Bicycle Myriad Playing Card Set
« on: February 07, 2016, 10:28:30 PM »


Introducing the Bicycle Myriad Playing Card Set.

This new product is a special 4 deck set of custom Bicycle Playing Cards in blue, purple, green, and red, all with the same backs. The 4 decks used together form a unique mega deck of 208 unique cards with 16 different suits. The 4 standard suits in 4 different colors.

With this original playing card set you can play fun variations of your favorite card games or create new ones.

The custom aspect of this playing card set is in the unique game playing elements, the artwork is the standard Bicycle art with some small additional game elements. Playing card collectors may want to add this set to their collection though, because it has unique colors (including metallic gold and silver inks) and elements not found in any other Bicycle® playing card design.

I began designing this set almost a year ago and have been working on it on and off. I am just now beginning to promote the set through Twitter, Facebook, and blogs, etc.

I hope to put it on Kickstarter by midyear. Because it is a 4 deck set, it will have a large funding goal. When I think it has had enough promotion and support, I will announce the launch date.

For much more info on the set, visit the website at http://myriadcards.com.

I welcome your comments as collectors, and as card players.


Here are some photos from the website:


Myriad box with tuck cases


Myriad box as 2 trays


Tuck cases with Aces


Card backs fanned


Myriad kings


Myriad Jokers


Myriad cut cards


Myriad blank cards


Myriad custom game elements


Myriad Poker hand ranks


Full Set

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Design & Development / Links to the top playing card designer’s sites
« on: January 10, 2016, 04:48:22 PM »
Here is a reference list of the best playing card designers. All of the designers listed here have successfully Kickstarted multiple decks or produced multiple decks for playing card publishers.

If you are working on or considering designing your own custom playing card deck, look at the work of these artists first. Really analyze what you like most about each designer’s work.

One thing all of these designers have in common is a professional level of illustration. Playing card “design” is almost a misnomer, there is more “illustration” involved in a good custom playing card design. You don't have to be a professional illustrator to create a successful card design, but you should refine your artwork to as high a level as possible.

Some of the common aspects of their design and illustration are consistency in style, consistency of line weight, use of the entire card surface without weak areas, and proper use of the indices.

Here is the list of links to the designer’s and studio’s sites in alphabetic order. There are a few others I wanted to include, but they didn’t have a functioning website.

Designers:
Valentina Badeanu - https://dribbble.com/valentinabadeanu
Blackout Brother - http://www.blackoutbrother.com
Randy Butterfield - http://midnight-cards.myshopify.com
Paul Carpenter - http://encarded.com
Alvin Cheung - http://www.sishouplayingcards.com
Alexander Chin - https://www.seasonsplayingcards.com
Lai Ching Pua - https://www.instagram.com/thebocopoplayingcardco
Tyler Deeb - http://tylerdeeb.com
Jody Eklund - http://www.blackinkplayingcards.com
Billy French - https://www.billyfrench.com
Lorenzo Gaggiotti - http://www.stockholm17.com
Jason Goldklang - https://vandacards.com
Sam Hayles - http://www.dose-productions.com/playing-cards
Brendan Hong - http://www.brendanhong.com
Ben Jones - https://elephantplayingcards.com
Emmanuel José - http://emmanueljose.com
Scott King - http://www.crookedkingscards.com
Roman Kotiv - http://noir-arts.com
Mike Lambert - http://www.metropolcards.com
Marianne Larsen - http://isolatedthunderstorm.com
Vince Lepera - https://eliteplayingcards.com
Lotrek - oathplayingcards.com
Lee McKenzie - http://cargocollective.com/kenzii
Giovanni Meroni - http://www.thirdway.it
Steve Minty - http://www.steveminty.com
Chris Ovdiyenko - http://deadonpaper.com
Jackson Robinson - http://kingswildproject.com
Nathan Schipul - http://www.emberwaves.net
Natalia Silva - https://nataliasilva.net
Mark Stutzman - https://www.behance.net/markstutzman
RJ Tomlinson - http://www.barclaymountain.com
Emmanuel Valtierra - http://emmanuelvaltierraillustrator.com
Joe White - https://www.behance.net/yeoldestudio
Karin Yan - https://bonafideplayingcards.com

Studios:
4PM Designs - https://4pmdesigns.webs.com
Brain Vessel Studios - http://www.bvcargo.com
Edgy Brothers - http://edgybrothers.com
Joker and the Thief - http://jokerandthethief.net
Erik Mana & Alvin Campana - http://www.manaplayingcards.com
Passione - http://www.passioneplayingcards.com
Pocono Modern - http://shop.poconomodern.com
Uusi - http://uusi.us

Of course there are many very good designers who have created one custom deck, these designers have produced multiple decks. If you think I missed someone, post a link to their site.

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Do any designers or others know the advantages and disadvantages of selling your design through Gamblers Warehouse or Collectors Playing Cards? It does seem that a custom deck is more likely to meet the Kickstarter goal when promoted through these retailers.

I am working on a Bicycle branded custom deck and would like some information on using these retailers versus publishing a deck yourself.

Gamblers Warehouse does give some credit to the designer on Kickstarter, CPC seems to offer no credit to the designer.

Are there other custom playing card retailers/publishers like Gamblers or CPC who offer custom decks through Kickstarter then retail?

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Design & Development / Card Back based on vintage Bicycle decks
« on: May 29, 2015, 03:12:31 PM »
I am working on a new custom deck project which will have card backs based on vintage Bicycle decks. I am looking at 2 options for the color. The first is a classic one color black and the other is a 2 color black and metallic gold. The gold would be a bright yellow gold, not the more bronze colored standard Bicycle gold. Which do you think collectors and players would prefer?



p.s. Knowledgeable collectors can make a quiz of the different decks which the card elements came from (some have been modified slightly).

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Design & Development / A gold and silver themed custom deck
« on: September 29, 2014, 12:34:06 AM »
Hi everyone,

Here is a new deck I am working on. It features interweaving gold and silver bands. The ink colors are red, black, metallic gold and metallic silver.

The court cards are custom illustrations that are a hybrid between the traditional English designs like the classic Bicycle face cards and a semi-realistic depiction of royalty.

The numbers cards use the same design elements as the court cards and the card back.

I am still deciding on the name of the deck.

It will be on Kickstarter with a limited edition of 1,000.

Any suggestions, or votes on which versions you like, would be welcome.




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Design & Development / Pinstriping Themed Deck
« on: August 01, 2014, 09:25:11 PM »
Here are some preliminary designs for a deck I am currently calling “Rat Rod Pinstripes”.

The rust color would be a dark metallic copper ink, the teal color will be a metallic ink also for an rusted auto appearance. The red and black would be spot colors.

I would appreciate any comments on the design, etc. I think I have covered all of the bases of function such as indices placement and proper symmetry, but if I have made any mistakes that would effect play, please let me know.

Thank you,

Randy Coffey

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