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Title: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on January 31, 2012, 09:59:23 PM
I was thinking that all of us card experts could perhaps all work together on creating designs for a custom deck of cards. Do you think that would be a good idea? Just a hypothetical question.
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Post by: loldudex2 on January 31, 2012, 10:02:10 PM
As long as we could get the funding, it'd be awesome!
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Post by: chdmagicdude on January 31, 2012, 10:06:01 PM
that would be cool! and i would like if we could print them.
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Post by: moonexe on January 31, 2012, 10:22:49 PM
Dibs on the jokers! I'm in! :D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on January 31, 2012, 11:14:32 PM
The problem does not lie in whether or not it gets funded, but in if you would be willing to work on it. I believe if its good enough it would get funded, as, if everyone working on designing it bought it, it would almost already be funded. The funds would go to Aether Cards. However, who would be willing to bring it to USPCC once the designs would be completed, perfected, and approved by all?
What theme for the cards?
Skull or no skull?
Sci-fi style?
Custom faces, box, and backs? and bonus cards?
We would need to start off with a doodle. Who is with me?
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Post by: chdmagicdude on January 31, 2012, 11:17:21 PM
am with you i am wanting to know what the them is going to be.

Edit: i think it should be Sci-fi style.
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Post by: Aaron on January 31, 2012, 11:26:45 PM
I would be in on this 100%
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Post by: dmbaggs on January 31, 2012, 11:28:31 PM
I'm down to help out!!

I think it might be hard if people have differing opinions. We don't want people pissed at each other on the forums, ya know? Making a deck like the Black Rock Collective deck wouldn't be hard, with each member making one card. If you want to have a uniform theme, court cards, etc... that could be a little more difficult.
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Post by: austin on January 31, 2012, 11:30:01 PM
I wonder what a Sci-Fi Skull deck would look like
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Post by: john on January 31, 2012, 11:31:30 PM
I'm taking the AoS, Moon_Exe, guess what you are also designing. :P
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Post by: Aaron on January 31, 2012, 11:32:10 PM
I think we should organize it though, like what card people are doing,




AS
2S
3S
4S-John
5S
6S
7S
8S
9S
10S
JS- Brown_Baggs
QS
KS
AH-Aaron
2H
3H
4H
5H
6H
7H
8H
9H
10H
JH
QH- Moon.exe
KH
AC
2C
3C
4C
5C
6C
7C
8C
9C
10C
JC
QC
KC
AD
2D
3D
4D
5D
6D
7D
8D
9D
10D
JD
QD
KD


Joker- Moon.exe
Back- CHMagicDude
Gaff Card-


also we need people to take these jobs:


Tuck Case-Once back is done I could do this or we could have a few people submit a tuck case and then vote on it.


Printing and Shipping decks- Alex


Custom Seal: Alex


Running Kickstarter:

Marketing I think everyone could help with.

Also I think this would be awesome publicity for Aethercards and I think with the 1 gaff we should also put in an ad card for Aether
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: chdmagicdude on January 31, 2012, 11:35:05 PM
i want to do the back of the cards.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on January 31, 2012, 11:39:06 PM
I think no skulls is a better idea. If you can just draw doodles it would be great. :D
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Post by: dmbaggs on January 31, 2012, 11:42:50 PM
Ill do jack of spades!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on January 31, 2012, 11:43:06 PM
lets just start doodling what comes to mind, upload, and criticize, and then redo it again. Custom pips seems like a good idea, they are just rly hard to make. We need about 10 more people involved into this to make it better and bigger.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on January 31, 2012, 11:44:13 PM
For drawing, u can use free programs such as Artrage, Tux Paint, Seashore. I'll start pretty soon. Sumo paint is also amazing for drawing.
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Post by: john on January 31, 2012, 11:49:17 PM
Can i change my mind, AoS is stressful haha. Can i get like the 4 of spades?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:08:24 AM
@john you can do the  4 of spades.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:25:13 AM
how do i add a pic on here??
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 12:27:26 AM
Let's keep it classy, there's been too much sci-fi lately with all those steampunk decks, galvanic etc...
Oh and if nobody takes it I'd like the QH too :P
Our priority should be the back design, to make sure the theme and general color scheme are consistent throughout the deck.
 
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 01, 2012, 01:10:50 AM
I think we should organize it though, like what card people are doing,




AS
2S
3S
4S-John
5S
6S
7S
8S
9S
10S
JS- Brown_Baggs
QS
KS
AH-Aaron
2H
3H
4H
5H
6H
7H
8H
9H
10H
JH
QH- Moon.exe
KH
AC
2C
3C
4C
5C
6C
7C
8C
9C
10C
JC
QC
KC
AD
2D
3D
4D
5D
6D
7D
8D
9D
10D
JD
QD
KD


Joker- Moon.exe
Back- CHMagicDude
Gaff Card-


also we need people to take these jobs:


Tuck Case-Once back is done I could do this or we could have a few people submit a tuck case and then vote on it.


Acctual printing of cards and running of the Kicktarter-


Marketing I think everyone could help with.

Also I think this would be awesome publicity for Aethercards and I think with the 1 gaff we should also put in an ad card for Aether


I updated that so maybe everyone go through and pick like 3 cards to do for now.


Also I think we should al agree on a software to use so we can transfer files to eachother.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 01, 2012, 01:14:35 AM
I think we should set up a Live Session sometime this week to plan out the deck.
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Post by: xela on February 01, 2012, 01:14:56 AM
I'm moving this to the D&D board.

If you guys come to me with a completed design, I'll take it to USPCC and have everything printed and shipped. I'll also create a tuck case for the completed design and a custom seal if you guys want.

Outside of those two things, I will leave this project completely in the hands of whoever wants to take lead and see it through to the end. Just some advice, keep the theme consistent, or go all out crazy, but don't have half the cards be practical, and another half be impractical.
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Post by: SeanWhelan on February 01, 2012, 01:21:54 AM
This would be such a fun idea. But who would the artist be? If this takes off it would be fun to play with. I would definitely purchase a few for collections sake.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 01, 2012, 01:23:57 AM
I'm moving this to the D&D board.

If you guys come to me with a completed design, I'll take it to USPCC and have everything printed and shipped. I'll also create a tuck case for the completed design and a custom seal if you guys want.

Outside of those two things, I will leave this project completely in the hands of whoever wants to take lead and see it through to the end. Just some advice, keep the theme consistent, or go all out crazy, but don't have half the cards be practical, and another half be impractical.


Thank you alex!


I think for the theme everyone should just do whatever fits their style and design a card they like, with just a few guidelines like it has to have a white face border or something so it will fit into the deck and look right. Or some of you may want the whole deck to fit one theme but we have alot of planning to do. :)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 01:44:42 AM
i have some back designs i well post tomorrow.
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Post by: Aaron on February 01, 2012, 01:48:49 AM
I can`t get a picture up right now but my idea for my Ace of hearts is a heart tat has been broken and then sewed back together, It will be a very bright red and a big ace. Although we havn`t decided on a theme or is there no theme?
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 01:51:59 AM
and thank you alex!
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 01:53:00 AM
Different themese couldwork, as long as the color scheme isn't too inconsistent. If any of you has the USPC promo deck, fan it and see how bad it looks when the colors aren't made to match. :P

We could post designs whenever we feel like it and adapt them later to the general look of the deck.

Aaron, that sounds really nice, you could even try to give it a plush look with big thread! And the color could be adapted later when we have a better idea of what the deck will look like as a whole.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 01:54:43 AM
we are keeping it classy.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 02:03:55 AM
i well do the aether cards ad 2.
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 02:09:35 AM
Why not call it the Discourse deck as well? Not exactly the most original idea, but certainly effective. ;)
Especially if we go with mixed themes, making it impossible to use a name in relation to the theme.

We could include an ad card for the forum itself and maybe Alex's standard Aether ad card. If one even exists, that is. ::)
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 02:12:00 AM
the ad card is going to say go check out www.aethercards.com (http://www.aethercards.com) where this deck was  designd with a qr code that well take you to the website like the toungsten dose and it well say are facebook www.facebook.com/AetherCards (http://www.facebook.com/AetherCards) and are twitter twitter.com/#!/aethercards and then on the back of the it well say [/size]designd by and all of are names.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 02:46:49 AM
@Aaron you should do all of the aces so they look the same.
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Post by: Joshua Robinson on February 01, 2012, 02:47:34 AM
Ill take the Ace of spades, the gaff and king of hearts (suicide king)
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 02:50:22 AM
ok sence i am doing the ad card i am going to put all of the designers names on it so i well need all of your names.
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 01, 2012, 02:50:44 AM
Filesharing: set up an account at some fileshare site, there's enough out there.

Theme: can be important, but a consistent overall look is better.

Here's a thought: pick a single front "framework" to use on ALL the cards.  For example, a white border (or black, or whatever color) around all the front designs for total edge consistency, and identical index styles on all the cards.  Have ONE PERSON design the indices for ALL the cards, using consistent placement throughout.

Let whoever's doing the back choose a good front border that's consistent with the back artwork/border.

I have that sample deck from USPC's Custom division - not an easy thing to look at in a squeezed hand, I tell you.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Kanped on February 01, 2012, 03:21:50 AM
I thought this was basically going to be a rainbow deck; different front and backs.  IMO, this is much less interesting.
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Post by: SeanWhelan on February 01, 2012, 03:23:12 AM
Still whos the designers thats going to work on the deck? Is there going to be a poll or like first dibs kind of thing?
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 03:27:18 AM
there is a list if you go down you pick out like 3 cards and other people are saying so just go thou this page then look at the list and pick what you want to design that is not takin.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 03:27:56 AM
cuz there is a lot of designers.

AS
2S
3S
4S-John
5S
6S
7S
8S
9S
10S
JS- Brown_Baggs
QS
KS
AH-Aaron
2H
3H
4H
5H
6H
7H
8H
9H
10H
JH brown-bags
QH- Moon.exe
KH
AC
2C
3C
4C
5C
6C
7C
8C
9C
10C
JC  brown-bags
QC
KC
AD
2D
3D
4D
5D
6D
7D
8D
9D
10D
JD  brown-bags
QD
KD

Joker- Moon.exe
Back- chdmagicdude
Gaff Card-


also we need people to take these jobs:


Tuck Case-Once back is done I could do this or we could have a few people submit a tuck case and then vote on it.


Acctual printing of cards and running of the Kicktarter-


Marketing I think everyone could help with.

Also I think this would be awesome publicity for Aethercards and I think with the 1 gaff  we should also put in an ad card for Aether the ad chdmagicdude

can you guys say what you are designing and i well put it one the list just look at the list and see whats not takin.
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 03:55:34 AM
Dude, stop posting in chains... you can edit your posts. :P

the printing Alex said he would do, as well as the tuck case. And the gaff card could have the (digitalized of course) signatures of all the designers on it? If they can fit, that is...
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 03:59:55 AM
yeah if they can fit i well but idk how many they are so far @Moon.exe sorry if you dont like me posting
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 01, 2012, 04:01:25 AM
I can do the four jacks!! Im down for the jack of spades but I have ideas for them as a whole! Please!
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 04:02:55 AM
@brown_baggs i well put you down for the 4 jacks.
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 04:04:13 AM
I don't mind you posting, I mind you posting 4 times in a row over a short period of time. It saturates the new posts list on the bottom of the boards, which I like to use. ::)

Baggs, with such enthusiasm, it sounds like you really have an awesome idea! ;)
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 01, 2012, 04:06:20 AM
Hopefully! I have ideas in my head that I need to work out. I gotta keep the one-eyed and two-eyed jacks of course
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Post by: Joshua Robinson on February 01, 2012, 04:20:20 AM
So the ace needs to fit into the back design nicely? and you might have to take me off the list because ive recently started school and have lots of homework
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 04:28:27 AM
@five just tell me if you need me take you of the list and how  limited do we want this deck?
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Post by: Joshua Robinson on February 01, 2012, 04:29:32 AM
take me off, and i would say about a 2,500-5000 run
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 04:31:38 AM
A small run would be the way to go, we can't really afford funding challenges. I would assume 2500 decks to be more than enough, considering the nature of the deck.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 04:33:52 AM
i think we should do  2,500 or 3,500.
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 01, 2012, 05:49:27 AM
I'm not designing any of the cards due to lack of skills needed, but I suggest that for sanity's sake you consider having ONE person do an entire VALUE, like all the fours or all the Queens.  Thirteen designers, plus one for the jokers, one for the back, one for the box, one for the ad cards and/or gaffs.  That's SEVENTEEN designers.  Because if you do it this way, you're going to have as much as FIFTY-EIGHT designers - and design by committee often gets ugly fast; the bigger the committee, the uglier and faster.  Getting 17 people to agree on something will be hard enough, don't you think?

That's just my two cents - feel free to do as you wish.
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 05:57:29 AM
I agree completely, though exceptions could be made for the court cards in particular if someone doesn't have the time needed. In fact, since a number value isn't too hard a task and since I didn't take the whole Queens set, I'd like to have the sevens as well. Unless we run out of cards, then I could leave them to someone else. :P
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 01, 2012, 06:01:44 AM
I agree completely, though exceptions could be made for the court cards in particular if someone doesn't have the time needed. In fact, since a number value isn't too hard a task and since I didn't take the whole Queens set, I'd like to have the sevens as well. Unless we run out of cards, then I could leave them to someone else. :P

Depending on the level of customization, the number cards can be as difficult as the courts, if not more so.  Look at the Curator Deck!

That's something you folks need to decide on - level of customization.  'Cause if you're going for simple spot cards, you don't even need nine or ten designers - you'd need two at best: one for the AoS and one for the rest.
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 06:13:24 AM
But the point is to have a lot of people participate in the creation, to make it a true Discourse deck. :P
Of course simple standard-layout number cards aren't good enough, but I don't think any of us can pull a new curator deck either, besides of course Ncyclopedia. Speaking of which - we NEED him to participate! :o
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 01, 2012, 06:27:59 AM
 I like the queen of spades. I love this idea ya'll are putting up. And what @moon.exe said about calling it Discourse is a brilliant perfect fitting idea! I'm so excited for you guys!

I can visualize a lot of things in my head but I can't draw to save my life.
So i'm here to cheer you all on!!

** GO GO GO**
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 06:32:29 AM
Krystle, if you want, you can give us some ideas and we'll try to honor them. ;)
I chose the Queen of Hearts for obvious reasons - and the jokers for the complete freedom they offer. They can be anything! ;D
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 01, 2012, 06:39:27 AM
I'd like the Nine of Diamonds, king of hearts, and once the whole deck is done, I'd Luke to help with the box. Also, at te end if there is no cards anyone else will pick up, I will take them.

Also, I think the Ace of spade should be like the Charity Water deck, I'm that it is a bunch of small images, making up the giant Spade Pip, only I'd like the pictures to be the signature of everyone who helped completed it.

Also, will this deck be themed, because I think it'd be awesome if there was no theme and we all just had fun with the faces of our cards. It's be awesome if it was just random (I think anyway).

Lastly, will this be like a transformation type deck?
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 06:53:56 AM
Also, I think the Ace of spade should be like the Charity Water deck, I'm that it is a bunch of small images, making up the giant Spade Pip, only I'd like the pictures to be the signature of everyone who helped completed it.
YES. That is a GREAT idea! How about this: One person prints out the spade shape and signs inside, then scans it back for the next person to sign until we have a full spade. It would be awesome!

As for the theme, you'Re right - mismatched themes would look great, as long as the colors don't clash too much. And it doesn't have to be a full transformation deck like the Curator, but we can certainly add our personal touch to each number card. ;)
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 01, 2012, 06:56:39 AM
 The Queen of Spades is very narcissistic. She indicates a woman who is blessed (or cursed) with sharp perception, and highly honed intuition. She is acutely analytical, with a razor-sharp ability to get to the heart of a situation, seeing exactly what is, rather than what others would wish her to see.

She is a private woman, unwilling to let people too close to her until she is satisfied she thoroughly understands their motivations. But once won as a friend, she is unfailingly loyal, honest and supportive.

She's usually very intelligent, with a dry sense of humour. Her penetrating insight will often reveal aspects of themselves to others that they had previously been unable to grasp - thus she is a capable therapist, teacher or leader.

Which is why i love the queen of Spades. :P She really reminds me of myself.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 01, 2012, 07:03:52 AM
Also, I think the Ace of spade should be like the Charity Water deck, I'm that it is a bunch of small images, making up the giant Spade Pip, only I'd like the pictures to be the signature of everyone who helped completed it.
YES. That is a GREAT idea! How about this: One person prints out the spade shape and signs inside, then scans it back for the next person to sign until we have a full spade. It would be awesome!

As for the theme, you'Re right - mismatched themes would look great, as long as the colors don't clash too much. And it doesn't have to be a full transformation deck like the Curator, but we can certainly add our personal touch to each number card. ;)

That's an idea, but I'm kinda afraid that since everyone doesn't have great quality printers/ scanners, the quality would deteriate pretty badly. I think we should all either scan our autograph in and then it gets compiled into an ace, or we could send our signatures to one person, and they do all the work for scanning it in and fitting it into place. I just fear with your idea that the AiS won't have enough space if we all write our names in ourself.
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 07:18:10 AM
The Queen of Spades is very narcissistic. She indicates a woman who is blessed (or cursed) with sharp perception, and highly honed intuition. She is acutely analytical, with a razor-sharp ability to get to the heart of a situation, seeing exactly what is, rather than what others would wish her to see.

She is a private woman, unwilling to let people too close to her until she is satisfied she thoroughly understands their motivations. But once won as a friend, she is unfailingly loyal, honest and supportive.

She's usually very intelligent, with a dry sense of humour. Her penetrating insight will often reveal aspects of themselves to others that they had previously been unable to grasp - thus she is a capable therapist, teacher or leader.

Which is why i love the queen of Spades. :P She really reminds me of myself.


Hmm... I could attempt something along those lines, I'll see what I can do. After I sleep that is. That's a very detailed description that would allow for a lot of details, and I like characters with their own unique personality. ;)

About that ace of spades, you're right, printer quality and the amount of spade are both issues. If we go with the individual signatures, one of the more design-oriented guys should take the job for the best possible result, since they're likely to have experience with this kind of thing already. :)
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Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 08:22:26 AM
Yes, there is a lot of talent here but honestly, a group made deck will be very hard to make. Agreeing on designs, assigning jobs, etc. are going to be hard
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Post by: Aaron on February 01, 2012, 09:59:32 AM
Hey guys,

I will update the list of who is doing what on page 2 when I get home tonite, it is way to hard on my phone. Also It was suggested that I do all the aces, I don't know if this is a good idea because I am not super educated with design. Although I would do like all the fives.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 01, 2012, 11:27:10 AM
Discourse Deck, planning.
Tell me if you are okay with what I assigned you.

MagicAddictz2?
Good@Sabacc?

Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude
Ace of spades - Come up with ideas
Aces(except of spades) - Aaron
Kings - Five
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens
Sixes
Fives
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane?
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
Ok. If possible, start doodling and coming up with ideas for the back, and your assigned card(s). We can work from there. I do not want to sound harsh, but if we want this to work out, we can't sit with our arms crossed, waiting for the others to do the work. I am willing to carry this project as long as we all contribute. Let's get started and try having some rough drafts of cards and back designs by Sunday February 5th, 2012, 6PM Pacific Standard Time.
We should have a group iChat session as soon as possible, too, with the printed version of the cards. BTW, the non-court cards do not need to be very complicated.
Good luck,
Nathan
PS: plz tell me if you're good with what I put in the list. Alex has already clearly stated what he would help with, but said he wouldn't carry the project.
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 11:58:04 AM
i could try help if you would like i did some desighns yesterday doodling

http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=1584.new;topicseen#new
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:04:56 PM
 @zaganh go down and look at the list and see what you can do.
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 12:06:20 PM
@zaganh go down and look at the list and see what you can do.

can you bring me up to speed so i dont have to read the other three pages whats the theme everyone settled on ?
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:07:34 PM
Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude
Ace of spades- zaganh
Aces(except of spades) - Aaron
Kings - Five
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens
Sixes
Fives
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane?
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
how about ace of spades i like doing those cards ?
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:09:42 PM
ok i put you on the list.
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Post by: SpiritsCrusader on February 01, 2012, 12:23:45 PM
I really wish I could help, I'm not good and have no tools to help design the deck, but if there's some way that i can help outside of design process let me know!?!
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 12:25:33 PM
ok i put you on the list.

i just did a practise one with an a for aether cards in hte middle ill upload just a sec
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:27:05 PM
SpiritsCrusader (http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?action=profile;u=2168) you can get one to help design just go and search it on google or just draw. sounds cool cant wait to see it.
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 12:36:09 PM
just mocked up a quick desighn for the ace incoperating an a for aether cards


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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
that looks cool i like the colors of it what are you using to do your pic ?
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 12:41:42 PM
that looks cool i like the colors of it what are you using to do your pic ?

i dont know its like a japnese paint its called paint tool i htink i use a mix of photoshop corel pain or paint tool
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:43:05 PM
ok so you are not using the computer.
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 12:44:47 PM
ok so you are not using the computer.

yep im using a laptop and a bamboo i mean the program is in like japanese it was like 5 mb when i downloded it ages ago its called paint tool
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Post by: SpiritsCrusader on February 01, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
SpiritsCrusader (http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?action=profile;u=2168) you can get one to help design just go and search it on google or just draw. sounds cool cant wait to see it.

I really have no artistic abilities what so ever.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:46:48 PM

@zaganh thanks i need to find something like that.
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Post by: Paul Carpenter on February 01, 2012, 12:49:54 PM
Pondering this a little, I do think several things should happen before anyone goes too crazy:

1. Someone needs to design the back, and everyone needs to agree that it works. That will form the basis of everything else, from color palette to theme.
2. Someone needs to put out a complete set of card templates, with properly positioned indexes and pips set (the pip design could be changed, perhaps, but the position and size should be consistent). Without that, you'll end up with a jumbled mess if each designer decides where to put stuff.
3. Since you will have so many people taking part, you really can't help but end up with something "transformation-like" in the end, because each person will want to do something interesting, but if you get the 2 of spades you really can't do all that much without adding some new kind of detail or art.
4. Finally, from a technical point of view, the resulting design files do need to be exactly right (in terms of size, format, resolution) or you will have USPCC giving you a big WTF when you send them mismatched files.

Could be a lot of fun! (but I don't want to manage it :) )
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 12:53:46 PM
ok i am doing the back design. i am going to post some pic later of what i got so far.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 01, 2012, 01:09:14 PM
Okay. Make the back design. We can start drawing and then we can figure out how to fit it in the right dimensions. Thx smetal.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 01:38:35 PM
ok here you guys go i like the frist one the best  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB7TIaYF3MI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB7TIaYF3MI)
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Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 02:49:06 PM
Just being honest here so don't take this offensively. I like the second design better but I don't like either of them...
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 02:54:48 PM
Just being honest here so don't take this offensively. I like the second design better but I don't like either of them...

i prefer the first how do you like my ace MagicAddictz ?
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Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 02:58:33 PM
Just being honest here so don't take this offensively. I like the second design better but I don't like either of them...

i prefer the first how do you like my ace MagicAddictz ?
I like it but I think it needs a little more shape. It doesn't look too much like a Spade. Its really cool but just needs some work  :)
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 03:01:07 PM
Just being honest here so don't take this offensively. I like the second design better but I don't like either of them...

i prefer the first how do you like my ace MagicAddictz ?
I like it but I think it needs a little more shape. It doesn't look too much like a Spade. Its really cool but just needs some work  :)

thank you well yeah its just a mock of so you get a feel of it i wont spend time on it uintil were all sure on what desighn were doing haha
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Post by: dee1orean on February 01, 2012, 03:23:54 PM
I think that the fact that so many of you are keen to be involved in this project is brilliant, it shows what a great community we have here.

However, You need to consider what your aim is with this deck.
As a promotional tool for the forum to be given to new and existing members and given away in competitions I think the design route you're going is great as it will really show off the diverse range of members we have here.

As a money making exercise though, a deck with no clear theme, with so many different designers designing so many different aspects of the deck could be a disaster.

I'm not trying to be negative or to dissuade you all from doing this, I would support\help fund this deck whichever route you take.

I'm just offering some constructive comments\criticisms.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 01, 2012, 03:32:08 PM
Ok. I think the back design is a very good start. You should do it on the computer though. We want a classy, metalic-like style. Can I see your ace plz?
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 03:33:52 PM
Ok. I think the back design is a very good start. You should do it on the computer though. We want a classy, metalic-like style. Can I see your ace plz?

my ace ? i did a quick mock up so you could get a feel of it

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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
i am going to do it on the computer if i can figer out how do you know what to use? 
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Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 03:38:30 PM
i am going to do it on the computer if i can figer out how do you know what to use?
What do you mean, "what to use?"
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Post by: zaganh on February 01, 2012, 03:39:37 PM
i am going to do it on the computer if i can figer out how do you know what to use?

i could do a quick sketch on my take of your desighn if you would like ?
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 03:41:57 PM
@zaganh i would like that i mean like what software? u have  adobe photoshop well that work.
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Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 04:00:32 PM
@zaganh i would like that i mean like what software? u have  adobe photoshop well that work.
Adobe Photoshop is what most people use. But if you want a free one, try Gimp
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 04:04:50 PM
my computer has it.
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 04:18:16 PM
I'm in. Someone tell me what to design and I'll do it  :D
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 04:20:17 PM
just go thou this list and see what you can do and then tell me  Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude
Ace of spades- zaganh
Aces(except of spades) - Aaron
Kings - Five
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens
Sixes
Fives
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane?
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 04:22:38 PM
just go thou this list and see what you can do and then tell me  Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude
Ace of spades- zaganh
Aces(except of spades) - Aaron
Kings - Five
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens
Sixes
Fives
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane?
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex


Ah, well I'd love to design an ace.. Could we get 4 artists on 4 aces? Also, are we going to have vastly different cards on each like the white knuckle deck?
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 04:25:28 PM
someone all ready the aces the ones that do not have someones name you can do.
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
someone all ready the aces the ones that do not have someones name you can do.


I know that. I'm asking Aaron basically if he'd be willing to do one ace, I'd do one, Zaganh would do one, and one other artist?
If not, that's fine, I'll stick the the oh so exciting world of the fives, or maybe the tens...  :-[
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Post by: Paul Carpenter on February 01, 2012, 04:56:17 PM
Here fellas. To get some of you started, at the link is a ZIP file with 4 photoshop files with a properly sized card in it, 10 pips and the corner indexes. This the font and pip design from Tendril and can get you started, so at least everything is in the right spots and you have something to start with. :)

http://cl.ly/DpoJ
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 05:03:08 PM
@xmetal what website did you use sheer those sweet pic?
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 01, 2012, 05:03:54 PM
Thanks XMetal! I know I'll have fun doodling on that all the time (not just for this project).
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 05:15:59 PM
Baggs, you can also download the blank card template from USPC.
http://www.bicyclecards.com/custom-playing-cards
There's a link on the bottom of this page. Everyone should use it, to make things easier. Xmetal's templates are based on those files, with the tendril pips added. It includes files for both photoshop and illustrator.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 01, 2012, 05:16:23 PM
Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude
Ace of spades - zaganh
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - Derek911
Ace of clubs - NathanCanadas
Kings - Five
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens
Sixes
Fives
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane?
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 05:18:56 PM
@Moon.exe thanks i was looking for some of those.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 01, 2012, 05:20:08 PM
Should I customize my pips for the 9's? Because if not there is really nothing I am doing.
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Post by: kensei777 on February 01, 2012, 05:21:16 PM
All right! Put me down for the Sevens. Wanted to do the Kings but oh well.


I'm going to need help though. I can get you the rough drafts but someone needs to streamline them. I lack the tools. It's unfortunate but no I don't have Photoshop nor Illustrator.  :(

Note: Oh and just in case someone wants to. My specialty is more on the ambigrams and mirrored images. Check out my deviant art profile for reference. :P
http://kospd777.deviantart.com/
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 05:22:32 PM
Should I customize my pips for the 9's? Because if not there is really nothing I am doing.


Yeah just curious, I scanned the thread but i may have missed something. What's the theme of the deck? And is every card going to have custom different pips etc?
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Post by: austin on February 01, 2012, 05:29:25 PM
Here fellas. To get some of you started, at the link is a ZIP file with 4 photoshop files with a properly sized card in it, 10 pips and the corner indexes. This the font and pip design from Tendril and can get you started, so at least everything is in the right spots and you have something to start with. :)

http://cl.ly/DpoJ
Could you get the same things. but make them files I can use on Gimp please ?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 01, 2012, 05:31:48 PM
Also, since Five cant do the kings, can I take them?
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 05:40:24 PM
Yeah, five said he didn't have time because of homework, go for it.

For the pips, Don suggested we should have the same indices for every card, and that makes a lot of sense, but there's no reason why the pips in the middle couldn't be customized by each person. :P
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 01, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
Ok. I have an idea. I think this deck should have a consistent back, but be kinda crazy for everything else. Just let your imagination go. The pips don't need to be the same in my opinion.
Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude
Ace of spades - NathanCanadas
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - Derek911
Ace of clubs - zaganh
Kings - Loldudex2
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens - Kensei777
Sixes
Fives - Austin?
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane?
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 01, 2012, 05:48:04 PM
The more professional looking ones aren't my own. The others are examples of crazy ideas.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 01, 2012, 05:52:22 PM
Should I customize my pips for the 9's? Because if not there is really nothing I am doing.


Yeah just curious, I scanned the thread but i may have missed something. What's the theme of the deck? And is every card going to have custom different pips etc?
Yes, you should, if possible. The theme of the deck is crazy. Eveything should be different from card to card, except for the backs.


I think that you guys should try getting all the help you can from many great card lovers, so they can help with this deck. For example, SacProductions101.
Ty,
Nathan
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Post by: Emmanuel on February 01, 2012, 06:17:33 PM
The Discourse Deck -- I like it  :D

Some of the favorite decks I own are group collaboration decks.

Here are a few:
Suit Up: http://www.suitup.bigcartel.com/

Versus: http://versusillustration.co.uk/

And of course, The Black Rock Collective: http://www.merchline.com/brc/productdisplay.7974.p.htm
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 06:23:18 PM
The Discourse Deck -- I like it  :D

Some of the favorite decks I own are group collaboration decks.

Here are a few:
Suit Up: http://www.suitup.bigcartel.com/ (http://www.suitup.bigcartel.com/)

Versus: http://versusillustration.co.uk/ (http://versusillustration.co.uk/)

And of course, The Black Rock Collective: http://www.merchline.com/brc/productdisplay.7974.p.htm (http://www.merchline.com/brc/productdisplay.7974.p.htm)


You OWN some.. now it's time to contribute! We need your design skills on this deck, it's a must!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 01, 2012, 06:30:46 PM
 I am really excited about this. :P

@Ncyclopedia I really got inspired when you posted those links to the other collaborative decks.

okay okay I know how to draw... just a little bit though. and only, I repeat ONLY when I'm half asleep (i know its weird but thats the truth ask Kensei)

http://krystlexlane.deviantart.com (http://krystlexlane.deviantart.com)

that is my old account. I <3 using pastels. So yeah!

I'll take a whack at the 2s you can now remove the question mark. @NathanCanadas

Also it would be really nice if it all had uniform borders too so that it can still be used for magic **remembering artiface v1**
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 01, 2012, 06:35:31 PM
The Discourse Deck -- I like it  :D

Some of the favorite decks I own are group collaboration decks.

Here are a few:
Suit Up: http://www.suitup.bigcartel.com/

Versus: http://versusillustration.co.uk/

And of course, The Black Rock Collective: http://www.merchline.com/brc/productdisplay.7974.p.htm

They look awesome! I hope our turns out like that!

P.S. Am I the only one who thought of How I Met Your Mother when I read "Suit Up".
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 06:38:25 PM
okay okay I know how to draw... just a little bit though. and only, I repeat ONLY when I'm half asleep (i know its weird but thats the truth ask Kensei)
I thought I was the only one! I'm always better late at night! :P

Anyway... Here's a partial sketch for your Queen of Clubs. Tell me what you think.
(Sorry for the bad quality, I don't have a scanner right now and I took the picture with my iPod. And the swirls at the top are for testing purpose, possible pattern to go on the crown.)
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Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 06:40:53 PM
@Moon, I really like that Queen! It has a cartoon look to it  :)
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 06:41:34 PM
Here's a quick ace of diamonds. I had no idea what I was doing or the direction I was going in. Let me know what you guys think


(http://i44.tinypic.com/2mxihhy.jpg)
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Post by: Emmanuel on February 01, 2012, 06:42:32 PM
The Discourse Deck -- I like it  :D

Some of the favorite decks I own are group collaboration decks.

Here are a few:
Suit Up: http://www.suitup.bigcartel.com/ (http://www.suitup.bigcartel.com/)

Versus: http://versusillustration.co.uk/ (http://versusillustration.co.uk/)

And of course, The Black Rock Collective: http://www.merchline.com/brc/productdisplay.7974.p.htm (http://www.merchline.com/brc/productdisplay.7974.p.htm)


You OWN some.. now it's time to contribute! We need your design skills on this deck, it's a must!

As much as I would love to contribute to this deck, I'm afraid I can't :( There's too much I'm juggling right now and you guys deserve 100% commitment.
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 06:43:41 PM
The Discourse Deck -- I like it  :D

Some of the favorite decks I own are group collaboration decks.

Here are a few:
Suit Up: http://www.suitup.bigcartel.com/ (http://www.suitup.bigcartel.com/)

Versus: http://versusillustration.co.uk/ (http://versusillustration.co.uk/)

And of course, The Black Rock Collective: http://www.merchline.com/brc/productdisplay.7974.p.htm (http://www.merchline.com/brc/productdisplay.7974.p.htm)


You OWN some.. now it's time to contribute! We need your design skills on this deck, it's a must!

As much as I would love to contribute to this deck, I'm afraid I can't :( There's too much I'm juggling right now and you guys deserve 100% commitment.


Definitely respect that. Good luck with your juggling act  ;)
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 01, 2012, 06:44:01 PM
okay okay I know how to draw... just a little bit though. and only, I repeat ONLY when I'm half asleep (i know its weird but thats the truth ask Kensei)
I thought I was the only one! I'm always better late at night! :P

Anyway... Here's a partial sketch for your Queen of Clubs. Tell me what you think.
(Sorry for the bad quality, I don't have a scanner right now and I took the picture with my iPod. And the swirls at the top are for testing purpose, possible pattern to go on the crown.)

tis nice! but supposed to be Queen of spades... >.>..... ahahhah! The The queen of spades will eat the queen of clubs for dinner. LoL!

Yeah I usually can only draw when I'm really really sleepy and my eyes are squinted and my head all fuzzy. LoL!

BTW I found a few files in my HDD on my favourite concept art for the Queen of Spades
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 06:45:22 PM
Here's a quick ace of diamonds. I had no idea what I was doing or the direction I was going in. Let me know what you guys think


(http://i44.tinypic.com/2mxihhy.jpg)

It looks great! But don't limit yourself to red only; you could add some more colors in it. And maybe some more detail on the rest of the card. There's a lot of white space, have fun. ;)
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Post by: kensei777 on February 01, 2012, 06:46:23 PM
I have an interesting question. What if I turned the sevens into discreet gaff cards?
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Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 06:47:48 PM
@Derek, That AoD is really cool! It looks to me like a gem which I really like! But like Moon said, mess around with different colors!
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 06:49:39 PM
tis nice! but supposed to be Queen of spades... >.>..... ahahhah! The The queen of spades will eat the queen of clubs for dinner. LoL!

Yeah I usually can only draw when I'm really really sleepy and my eyes are squinted and my head all fuzzy. LoL!

BTW I found a few files in my HDD on my favourite concept art for the Queen of Spades


The first one is almost exactly what I had in mind when I went to sleep! O.O
Queen of spades... Hmm... Do you have descriptions for every court card? It could be great inspiration. :P

I have an interesting question. What if I turned the sevens into discreet gaff cards?
You mean like a transformation deck? Have fun! There's never too much originality! ;)
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 01, 2012, 06:52:49 PM
Just don't ask questions, and do. Throw yourself into it, nothing is too crazy. You guys, keep all the doodles you make, and don't erase them because they are very nice and could be useful. As for the ace of diamonds, it's really nice, but you should play a bit with blurriness and twist it around a bit. Very nice job, all of you guys. Lets make this a great souvenir of our fun time and great team at the discourse!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 01, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
tis nice! but supposed to be Queen of spades... >.>..... ahahhah! The The queen of spades will eat the queen of clubs for dinner. LoL!

Yeah I usually can only draw when I'm really really sleepy and my eyes are squinted and my head all fuzzy. LoL!

BTW I found a few files in my HDD on my favourite concept art for the Queen of Spades


The first one is almost exactly what I had in mind when I went to sleep! O.O
Queen of spades... Hmm... Do you have descriptions for every court card? It could be great inspiration. :P


 Actually yes I do have descriptions for every card! Since I used to dab in tarot cards. Spades were actually Swords. :P so yeah. Should I post them here or should I open a new thread so it would be easier to find?
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 06:55:30 PM
A thread dedicated to those would definitely be nice. Go ahead~

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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 01, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
A thread dedicated to those would definitely be nice. Go ahead~



 Aight! Will start on it right now!!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 01, 2012, 06:59:40 PM
I think the Ace of Diamonds should have more facets if you are trying to make it look like a ruby. Also it would be really cool if it could look more translucent.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 07:22:06 PM
what do i do it wont let me upload a pic it seys  that the file is to big??
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Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
what do i do it wont let me upload a pic it seys  that the file is to big??
Upload it to a photo sharing website like Photobucket.com
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 08:33:28 PM
i well latter cuz i have to go.
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Post by: Aaron on February 01, 2012, 08:53:06 PM
WOW I was gone today and this has really took off. I am going to sketch my card up but I wont de able to work on the computerizes aspects of it until my laptop comes back from repair next week. I am using my dads old dinosaur laptop so it is old and slow. Anyway I really like that Ace of Diamonds and I could also do another card.
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Post by: xela on February 01, 2012, 09:50:46 PM
Guys, I hate to burst the party bubble, but I do want to point out that you can't just "transfer" something to a computer and have it be card-i-fied.

1. This project needs a devoted leader to succeed, and I hate to say it, but the leader has to be versed in design. Not necessarily card design, but design in general. This allows the leader to take random drawings and sketches people give him or her and transform them into something that can be used. This allows people with little artistic aptitude to participate as well.

2. I don't think insane marketing is needed for the deck. USPCC has a company they outsource small print runs to, and you can always add extra for custom tuck cases. I think a print run of 500 decks is far more than enough. This deck is obviously here to be a work of art, and not to be a mainstream practical product. Use your advantages here, you have access to over 700 members and possibly more with good marketing.

3. This is a community deck, so make the theme community related. The back design could be random abstract artwork, sure, or it could be something really awesome like all the artist's signatures meshed together into a crazy design and mirrored on itself for a two-way look.

4. I would prefer that either no ad card for AetherCards is included, or that our standard one is used. All things related to promoting a brand need to be handled by me personally, although I don't mind any of you using things like the Omnes pip or any other AC stuff in your designs. I would just prefer that the actual "promotion" card be left to me or excluded entirely.

5. The best way to fund the deck is via Kickstarter. You'll want to have a goal of about $10,000 to cover all costs.  For anyone interested in marketing the product, your best route is probably "look at what the card community can create." That said, you guys really want to show what the card community CAN create, since you're representing all collectors everywhere with this project.

6. All funding has to be managed by someone over 18 years of age in the United States. Your income will be taxed, and you should know basic financial information.

7. Remember to have fun doing this. It's a community project, and that means find a role for everyone if they want in. However, whoever takes up the role of leader (maybe have a poll for it?) should do well to assign roles properly. For example, have the amazing designer make the AoS, and leave the two of diamonds to someone with less aptitude. Someone with no artistic skill can submit hand made drawings and sketches that are collaborated upon by someone who can do digital art, bringing the sketch to life.

8. Be ready for a time commitment, don't expect this to be done in a few weeks, and you guys really have to push hard for results. Not only yourselves, but other people involved as well.

This is all constructive criticism so take it as you will. Run with it, or don't run with it at all (except the AetherCards ad card bit, that's my only actual request).
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 09:59:48 PM
Starting with the beginning of Alex's post (which I agree with) who will be the leader of this vast adventure of card making wonderfulness?
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Post by: Frost on February 01, 2012, 10:04:11 PM
can't wait to see what u guys come up with for your group deck i'm working on mine to.
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Post by: Aaron on February 01, 2012, 11:27:56 PM
Guys, I hate to burst the party bubble, but I do want to point out that you can't just "transfer" something to a computer and have it be card-i-fied.

1. This project needs a devoted leader to succeed, and I hate to say it, but the leader has to be versed in design. Not necessarily card design, but design in general. This allows the leader to take random drawings and sketches people give him or her and transform them into something that can be used. This allows people with little artistic aptitude to participate as well.

2. I don't think insane marketing is needed for the deck. USPCC has a company they outsource small print runs to, and you can always add extra for custom tuck cases. I think a print run of 500 decks is far more than enough. This deck is obviously here to be a work of art, and not to be a mainstream practical product. Use your advantages here, you have access to over 700 members and possibly more with good marketing.

3. This is a community deck, so make the theme community related. The back design could be random abstract artwork, sure, or it could be something really awesome like all the artist's signatures meshed together into a crazy design and mirrored on itself for a two-way look.

4. I would prefer that either no ad card for AetherCards is included, or that our standard one is used. All things related to promoting a brand need to be handled by me personally, although I don't mind any of you using things like the Omnes pip or any other AC stuff in your designs. I would just prefer that the actual "promotion" card be left to me or excluded entirely.

5. The best way to fund the deck is via Kickstarter. You'll want to have a goal of about $10,000 to cover all costs.  For anyone interested in marketing the product, your best route is probably "look at what the card community can create." That said, you guys really want to show what the card community CAN create, since you're representing all collectors everywhere with this project.

6. All funding has to be managed by someone over 18 years of age in the United States. Your income will be taxed, and you should know basic financial information.

7. Remember to have fun doing this. It's a community project, and that means find a role for everyone if they want in. However, whoever takes up the role of leader (maybe have a poll for it?) should do well to assign roles properly. For example, have the amazing designer make the AoS, and leave the two of diamonds to someone with less aptitude. Someone with no artistic skill can submit hand made drawings and sketches that are collaborated upon by someone who can do digital art, bringing the sketch to life.

8. Be ready for a time commitment, don't expect this to be done in a few weeks, and you guys really have to push hard for results. Not only yourselves, but other people involved as well.

This is all constructive criticism so take it as you will. Run with it, or don't run with it at all (except the AetherCards ad card bit, that's my only actual request).


Thank you for the feedback alex :)


We will leave out the Ad card.




And is there anyone who is educated in design and can work with photoshop or Illustrator that wants to be the project leader?
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 11:33:31 PM
And is there anyone who is educated in design and can work with photoshop or Illustrator that wants to be the project leader?


Would love to but with school and my job it'd be too much work..
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Post by: moonexe on February 01, 2012, 11:37:35 PM
We will leave out the Ad card.
Says who? I would actually like having the standard Aether ad card. :P
USPCC has a company they outsource small print runs to, and you can always add extra for custom tuck cases.
What is the quality like, though? If I'm not mistaken, Gemaco can accommodate small runs as well. I'd take a good Gemaco deck over a low-quality outsourced deck, personally. ;)
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 11:39:29 PM
here is a nother back design http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0224.jpg
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 11:53:20 PM
here is a nother back design http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0224.jpg (http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0224.jpg)


Not bad, I think if you changed the angle of the 4 polygon shaped things in the lines so that they outlined the circle. The top right one is perfect, follow that. I hope you understood that haha.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 01, 2012, 11:55:51 PM
wait so you want me to take away the 4 polygon shaped things or make them bigger?
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Post by: Derek on February 01, 2012, 11:59:45 PM
Like this more :


(http://i39.tinypic.com/348g2g9.png)
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 12:05:01 AM
did it looks better so is this the back design?
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 12:07:58 AM
did it looks better so is this the back design?


I like it. It's only the primary phase of it. Once we get it in photoshop and illustrator, bolden it, add colors, effects etc I think it will look great

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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 12:11:23 AM
i well add colors and i well post a pic when i get it done.
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 12:13:17 AM
i well add colors and i well post a pic when i get it done.


Ok cool. I also like the idea of incorporating the forum and the people in the back. With the signatures like Alex said... We'll see what people say
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 12:14:47 AM
Like this more :


(http://i39.tinypic.com/348g2g9.png)
Looks either too much like infinity or too sci-fi... I'm tired of sci-fi designs... :-\
How about something like the v-slims but with our names? Something that simple would bring the focus on the faces while still looking clean and stylish...
 
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 12:21:36 AM

Looks either too much like infinity or too sci-fi... I'm tired of sci-fi designs... :-\
How about something like the v-slims but with our names? Something that simple would bring the focus on the faces while still looking clean and stylish...


I agree, something making it unique and associated with US. Our signatures would be cool, mangling them together somehow.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 12:25:56 AM
so you want my to do another design? it's looking good with the colors.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 12:37:50 AM
this is it with some color http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0225.jpg
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Post by: Aaron on February 02, 2012, 12:54:06 AM
this is it with some color http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0225.jpg (http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0225.jpg)


Looking good for an early stage development, although I think you should make the lines going outward not as wide. Also Maybe just design one half of the deck then mirror it over and it will be symetrical.
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Post by: Aaron on February 02, 2012, 12:55:39 AM
We will leave out the Ad card.
Says who? I would actually like having the standard Aether ad card. :P
USPCC has a company they outsource small print runs to, and you can always add extra for custom tuck cases.
What is the quality like, though? If I'm not mistaken, Gemaco can accommodate small runs as well. I'd take a good Gemaco deck over a low-quality outsourced deck, personally. ;)


Haha ok we can put in the standard ad I read alex`s post wrong and I thought he wanted no ad card. I he wants to make the ad card like he says then we can put it in.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 12:58:48 AM
another pic the back is almost done with the colors http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0226.jpg
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Post by: Aaron on February 02, 2012, 01:14:26 AM
another pic the back is almost done with the colors http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0226.jpg (http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0226.jpg)


That is looking Nice! I think once we see how everyone likes it you should go through and make every line straight and make some detail in those top 2 areas so it isnt to plain, otherwise it looks awesome!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 01:20:27 AM
 The design look good. although, if I may say so the color scheme is a little too chaotic. Try a more Analogous color scheme. That will help bring it together. :P
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 01:21:31 AM
thank you! yeah i am going to photoshop it sometime.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 01:23:35 AM
what colors do you want me to use @krystlelane?
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 01:56:54 AM
 Its really up to you but I can give you an idea what an analogous color scheme is.

Analogous colors are colors that are adjacent to each other on the color wheel. Some examples are green, yellow green, and yellow or red, red violet and violet. Analogous color schemes are often found in nature and are pleasing to the eye. The combination of these colors give a bright effect in the area, and are able to accommodate many changing moods. When using the analogous color scheme, one should make sure there is one hue as the main color.

So yeah. Sorry I was an Interior Design student and my Color theory teacher was a b*tch LITERALLY
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 02:18:42 AM
thank you! well start to work on it tomorrow.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
So yeah. Sorry I was an Interior Design student and my Color theory teacher was a b*tch LITERALLY
Literally? So she was a female dog? :P

...Really dude, I'm sorry, but I don't like your back design at all. It's a good effort, but I don't like it. I don't even have any constructive comments about it.
Well, here's what I had in mind... Y'know, simple but effective?
Of course, replace the random names with our signatures...
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 02:25:24 AM
i can do that i well just need all of your names.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 02:31:30 AM
So yeah. Sorry I was an Interior Design student and my Color theory teacher was a b*tch LITERALLY
Literally? So she was a female dog? :P

...Really dude, I'm sorry, but I don't like your back design at all. It's a good effort, but I don't like it. I don't even have any constructive comments about it.
Well, here's what I had in mind... Y'know, simple but effective?
Of course, replace the random names with our signatures...

I LoL'ed so much at that photo!
James Potter
Darth Maul
Sponge Bob
John Smith
That Guy
Other Guy
Someone
Someone Else

LoL! Ahahahaha!

Well my teacher was not really a female dog hahah!

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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 02:50:39 AM
i can do that i well just need all of your names.
Mhm. If we all sign with a black sharpie on white paper, it should be pretty easy to have the same rainbow/black border effect as what I posted, too. We just need the signatures arranged in clean lines as much as possible.
And if it fits, we could even try to make it a two-way design like vslims. :P

Oh, and Krystle, glad you enjoyed it. ::) hahaha
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 09:00:35 AM
So yeah. Sorry I was an Interior Design student and my Color theory teacher was a b*tch LITERALLY
Literally? So she was a female dog? :P

...Really dude, I'm sorry, but I don't like your back design at all. It's a good effort, but I don't like it. I don't even have any constructive comments about it.
Well, here's what I had in mind... Y'know, simple but effective?
Of course, replace the random names with our signatures...

We would either need to all write out signitures nice and neat like that or we should just use a sin iture font.  i know my signiture is messy and wouldnt look as good as that back
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 11:17:26 AM
Ok. I agree with everything said so far. No, we need to get some stuff clearly.
We need a leader or co-leaders. Some that are good artists, and have and know how to use photoshop or a similar App. Krystlelane, would you be willing to be one of the co-founders?
I unfortunately can't because I am not a good artist.
I like the back design, but I think:
1) The colors are too flashy.
2) Are names could be written very small on the backs.

The idea of this deck was for it to be crazy. So lets get to work!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 11:28:47 AM
Ok. I agree with everything said so far. No, we need to get some stuff clearly.
We need a leader or co-leaders. Some that are good artists, and have and know how to use photoshop or a similar App. Krystlelane, would you be willing to be one of the co-founders?
I unfortunately can't because I am not a good artist.
I like the back design, but I think:
1) The colors are too flashy.
2) Are names could be written very small on the backs.

The idea of this deck was for it to be crazy. So lets get to work!

I dont really know what a co-founder does. But I can help out and will try in anyway that I can.
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 11:34:55 AM
I cant take on sole responsibility for the deck but id be willing to team up with someone and put my photoshop/illustrator skills to use.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 12:11:57 PM
@derek911 you can photoshop the back i did.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 12:28:53 PM
 if being a co-founder means being a good artist, then unfortunately I'm not very capable of that. Plus I really don't know the ins and outs of this whole things. But like I said I will help with the best of my capabilities.
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Post by: kensei777 on February 02, 2012, 12:53:02 PM
I would really like to know who can step up and be the design leader. As I've mentioned in my first post here in this topic, I don't have the tools to digitize my work. I hope modesty can be set aside for this particular instance. I'm sure the guys here won't complain.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 12:55:07 PM
what well i have to do if i am the design leader?
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 01:19:23 PM
what well i have to do if i am the design leader?

Are you very skilled in photoshop and ilustrator? Can you take drawings and edit them and digitize them? Can you  take people's designs and improve or help improve thsir ideas? Im guessing that is what will have to be done. Also a time commitment to the project.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 01:29:43 PM
i cant  photoshop and idk what  ilustrator is but i can do ever-thing elce.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 01:35:32 PM
Ok. Tell me if this works:
Design Leaders: chdmagicdude and Derek911
Project Coordination leader: NathanCanadas
Artistic Counselor : Lara Krystle Lane and Moon.exe
I hope this works out well. I am not a good artist, which is why I can't be the design leader, but I can help coordinate the project, and put everything together. The artistic Counselors can give "professional" feedback. All of the people above as well as other project members will participate in drawing and editing and will be in the credits. :D
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 01:38:14 PM
Im down for that. Ive used PS and illustrator for years.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 01:39:53 PM
im down for that.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 01:40:32 PM
Ok. Great. So, please vote yes on the poll!
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 01:46:24 PM
i just voted.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 02:49:06 PM
If you Gus need any more help with coordinators or anything like that let me know. Although I don't have photoshop at home, I have it at school and I usually finish my projects in that class pretty early, which means lots of free time. I'm not amazing at it, but I'm fairly decent.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 02:55:35 PM
 I'm pretty sure Kensei777 would love to help out here. Although he doesn't have photoshop too he can make pretty awesome sketches!
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 03:19:02 PM
I'm pretty sure Kensei777 would love to help out here. Although he doesn't have photoshop too he can make pretty awesome sketches!


I'd be glad to help kensei777 and anyone else by digitizing their work  :D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 04:10:36 PM
THE DISCOURSE DECK
Ok. Tell me if this works:

LEADERSHIP POSITIONS - the people in this category will supervise, lead and participate in the project:
Project Coordination Leader: NathanCanadas
Digital Design Leaders: chdmagicdude, Derek911, and loldudex2
Manual Design Leader: Kensei777
Artistic Counselors: Lara Krystle Lane and Moon.exe

DIRECT PARTICIPANTS IN PROJECT:
Designers: Zaganh, Brown_baggs, Aaron, austin, John

INDIRECT PARTICIPANTS IN PROJECT:
Professional/experienced Advice Givers: Alex, SeanWhelan, xmetal
Assistant Advice Givers: Good@Sabacc, MagicAddictz, dee1orean, Ncyclopedia, SacProductions101
Advice Giving Helpers: Five, Spirits Crusader, Frost, any one else who wishes

I hope this works out well. I am not a good artist, which is why I can't be the design leader, but I can help coordinate the project, and put everything together. The artistic Counselors can give "professional" feedback. All of the people above as well as other project members will participate in drawing and editing and will be in the credits. (http://aethercards.com/discourse/Smileys/aaron/cheesy.gif)

Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude and Derek911
Ace of spades -
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - Derek911
Ace of clubs - zaganh
Kings - Loldudex2
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens - Kensei777
Sixes
Fives - Austin?
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
PS: Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one to anyone!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 04:17:45 PM
Thanks! I will try to finish up one of my court cards by tonight, and I will hopefully scan it into Photoshop tomorrow.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 04:26:56 PM
This is getting more chaotic by the day... Just sayin' :-\
Those who don't have the abilities should accept it and step down. Do you guys all really agree with the names you see on the leading positions?
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 04:36:36 PM
Almost all of the spots for designs are filled  ???
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 04:40:53 PM
This is getting more chaotic by the day... Just sayin' :-\
Those who don't have the abilities should accept it and step down. Do you guys all really agree with the names you see on the leading positions?

I don't think I should be one of the lead photoshop people. I just wanted to let everyone know that I will try the best of my ability to help out. Since I don't have much access to photoshop.  I am trying to get better at it, but at this point in time I am nowhere near as good as some of the other people.
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 04:44:18 PM
This is getting more chaotic by the day... Just sayin' :-\
Those who don't have the abilities should accept it and step down. Do you guys all really agree with the names you see on the leading positions?
I'll be honest and say that I don't agree with the names. Well, I agree with one of them.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
I'll be honest and say that I don't agree with the names. Well, I agree with one of them.
Haha, same here.
Loldudex2, I don't know what you're capable of, so I'm not gonna judge you on that, but I think the problem is more than a slight inability. For example, we have a leader who obviously can't write a logical sentence in the forum's language of choice. Go figure.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
I don't think this is getting more chaotic. It's just getting more complicated. This is normal, but, please don't give up, as this will work out eventually. I have updated the list.
THE DISCOURSE DECK
Ok. Tell me if this works:

ARTISTIC LEADERSHIP POSITIONS - the people who will supervise and revise and criticize the artistic parts of the project:
Digital Design Leader: Derek911
Manual Design Leader: Kensei777
Artistic Counselors: Lara Krystle Lane and Moon.exe

 COORDINATION HELPERS - the people in this category will supervise, lead and participate in the project, will help put things together and in order, make sure everything works as planned:
Project Coordination: NathanCanadas

DIRECT PARTICIPANTS IN PROJECT:
Designers: Zaganh, Brown_baggs, Aaron, austin, John, chdmagicdude, loldudex2

INDIRECT PARTICIPANTS IN PROJECT:
Professional/experienced Advice Givers: Alex, SeanWhelan, xmetal
Assistant Advice Givers: Good@Sabacc, MagicAddictz, dee1orean, Ncyclopedia, SacProductions101
Advice Giving Helpers: Five, Spirits Crusader, Frost, any one else who wishes

I hope this works out well. I am not a good artist, which is why I can't be the design leader, but I can help coordinate the project, and put everything together. The artistic Counselors can give "professional" feedback. All of the people above as well as other project members will participate in drawing and editing and will be in the credits.

Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude and Derek911
Ace of spades -
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - Derek911
Ace of clubs - zaganh
Kings - Loldudex2
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens - Kensei777
Sixes
Fives - Austin
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
PS: Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one to anyone!
Better?
I understand what you mean and don't want to put myself above all. I just think I can help coordinate and put everything together and would be more than willing to do so.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 04:56:13 PM
What makes a "direct participant" in the project if the artists aren't included in this category? :-\
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 05:07:24 PM
I don't think this is getting more chaotic. It's just getting more complicated. This is normal, but, please don't give up, as this will work out eventually. I have updated the list.
THE DISCOURSE DECK
DIRECT PARTICIPANTS IN PROJECT:
ARTISTIC LEADERSHIP POSITIONS - the people who will supervise and revise and criticize the artistic parts of the project:
Digital Design Leader: Derek911
Manual Design Leader: Kensei777
Artistic Counselors: Lara Krystle Lane and Moon.exe

 COORDINATION HELPERS - the people in this category will supervise, lead and participate in the project, will help put things together and in order, make sure everything works as planned:
Project Coordination: NathanCanadas

OTHER ARTISTS:
Designers: Zaganh, Brown_baggs, Aaron, austin, John, chdmagicdude, loldudex2

INDIRECT PARTICIPANTS IN PROJECT:
Professional/experienced Advice Givers: Alex, SeanWhelan, xmetal
Assistant Advice Givers: Good@Sabacc, MagicAddictz, dee1orean, Ncyclopedia, SacProductions101
Advice Giving Helpers: Five, Spirits Crusader, Frost, any one else who wishes

I hope this works out well. I am not a good artist, which is why I can't be the design leader, but I can help coordinate the project, and put everything together. The artistic Counselors can give "professional" feedback. All of the people above as well as other project members will participate in drawing and editing and will be in the credits.

Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude and Derek911
Ace of spades -
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - Derek911
Ace of clubs - zaganh
Kings - Loldudex2
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens - Kensei777
Sixes
Fives - Austin
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
PS: Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one to anyone!
Better?
I understand what you mean and don't want to put myself above all. I just think I can help coordinate and put everything together and would be more than willing to do so.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 05:09:02 PM
What makes a "direct participant" in the project if the artists aren't included in this category? :-\
I meant direct participants other than the ones above. But I had so much to think of that I forgot about this. Sorry. Plz tell me if you think I need to change anything, even if it regards me as an individual. I am doing my best to please a majority of people while making the project move forward.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 05:10:02 PM
Oh, now I see what you mean. :P
You might wanna edit your post to have the titles in bold and/or bigger than the rest, to make it easier for people to read through it...
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Post by: SaCproductions101 on February 02, 2012, 05:30:46 PM
I'd love to help. Don't exactly know how though!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 05:32:56 PM
YAY!!!!! Thank you so much! You can help by designing and criticizing if you would like!
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 05:56:59 PM
I'll be giving ideas and constructive criticism  :)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 06:09:27 PM
Since the Ace of Spades doesn't have a maker yet, could we do the thing with the signatures to match the back of the cards, if we are doing that back?



Also, for the king of hearts, instead of a sword going through his head (suicidal king), I was thinking it'd be cool if it was a man with a gun pointed to his head, but then I realized that was way to dark for this deck. Should I just scrap te idea, or what?
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 06:23:50 PM
 Good momrning. I just woke up hahaha! I was able to a a really rough sketch of the 2s but couldn't seem to get it right. but my inspiration came from this. I had drawn these a while back and I thought it would be nice to use this as my base for the twos. ^-^ Instead of flowers, it would be the suits. I know its kinda vague right now but in my mind its very prettttyyyyyyy picture.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 06:26:09 PM
I think the Actuators already have the gun idea for the king of hearts. It looks like a flintlock, though. :P
And it'd be awesome to have the ace of spades and the back both showing off our signatures. I mean, sure, crazy is cool, but why can't we leave that to the faces? A simple back with crazy faces just makes us see the faces even more. ;)

Good morning Krystle. :P Those are pretty, I'd love to see what it looks like with suits. And if you need help digitizing them, I could do it as a digital painting to stay closer to your pastel stuff.
 
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 06:50:09 PM
Alright, I will try to make insanely different kings! My inspiration is the "Tungstene" deck  ;D
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 06:51:44 PM
Guys, should I make two identical or completely different jokers? Or similar with a reveal?
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 06:54:58 PM
Make something like an alter ego joker with reveal. :P
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 06:55:08 PM
similar with a reveal!
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 06:58:07 PM
Honestly, what is the need for a reveal on this deck... its not a deck made for magic.
(just constructive criticism)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 06:59:33 PM
I think you should make two completely different jokers. The point of this deck is to be crazy, so I think it'd be awesome if every cars was completely different.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 07:02:35 PM
The joker I'm designing right now will be a teddy bear standing on a rocking horse. Maybe the other one could be something else with the same teddy bear? Any ideas?
As for the reveal, even though it's not really a magic deck, something like a reveal would be a nice nod the the magicians in our community. :P
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 07:06:13 PM
that sounds cool!! i like the idea of a teddy bear
standing on a rocking horse i cant wait to see it. and the reveal should be the teddy bear should be holding the ace of spades.



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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 07:07:39 PM
that sound cool!!
Come on man. Do you not realize that you are posting the SAME short comments over and over again? And if they're not the same, they contribute nothing to the thread.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 02, 2012, 07:11:46 PM
It's cool watching the progress of this.

I can do some designs for the Sixes if that's alright.
Are the PIPS and Indices going to be from Tendril Deck
or are they going to be custom to the Discourse Deck?

thanks, Randy
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 07:13:40 PM
Randy, it would be great to have you in on the project! Go ahead! :D
I think the tendril pips are just for reference. The indices should be the same throughout the deck, but the pips on the face design will be different, like most collab decks out there.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 07:15:34 PM
that sound cool!!
Come on man. Do you not realize that you are posting the SAME short comments over and over again? And if they're not the same, they contribute nothing to the thread.

I know what you're saying, and I do think he should put more time in his posts, but I honestly feel he was not doing that to increase post count, but instead to voice his opinions on the joker idea.



Maybe you could make the other Teddy Bear sitting down with blocks around him along with other toddler toys, ans one of the sides of the blocks could look like a card for the reveal.


It's cool watching the progress of this.

I can do some designs for the Sixes if that's alright.
Are the PIPS and Indices going to be from Tendril Deck
or are they going to be custom to the Discourse Deck?

thanks, Randy
With you on this team, the sixes will be awesome! Seeing what you have done with the Ornate playing cards, there is no doubt in my mind that I will be very pleased.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 07:17:46 PM
Maybe you could make the other Teddy Bear sitting down with blocks around him along with other toddler toys, ans one of the sides of the blocks could look like a card for the reveal.

Yes! Letter blocks! ;D
I'll take a picture of the rocking horse one and try to remake it with the pen tool, then I'll sketch the second joker. :P
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 07:19:59 PM
Ok I think the jokers should be identical with an almost invisible reveal. As for the Ace of Spades, we should all have our names written, but it could be done on the computer. Just write your real name below, and I'll take care of it, using a nice handwritting. The backs can include signatures, but it must go both ways, with a subtle 1 way design (maybe an extra name, such as Alex's on one side). For the kings, make them your own, try something new!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 07:21:16 PM
THE DISCOURSE DECK
DIRECT PARTICIPANTS IN PROJECT:
ARTISTIC LEADERSHIP POSITIONS - the people who will supervise and revise and criticize the artistic parts of the project:
Digital Design Leader: Derek911
Manual Design Leader: Kensei777Artistic Counselors: Lara Krystle Lane and Moon.exe

COORDINATION HELPERS - the people in this category will supervise, lead and participate in the project, will help put things together and in order, make sure everything works as planned:
Project Coordination: NathanCanadas
OTHER ARTISTS:
Designers: Zaganh, Brown_baggs, Aaron, austin, John, chdmagicdude, loldudex2, RandyButterfield

INDIRECT PARTICIPANTS IN PROJECT:
Professional/experienced Advice Givers: Alex, SeanWhelan, xmetal
Assistant Advice Givers: Good@Sabacc, MagicAddictz, dee1orean, Ncyclopedia, SacProductions101
Advice Giving Helpers: Five, Spirits Crusader, Frost, any one else who wishes

I hope this works out well. I am not a good artist, which is why I can't be the design leader, but I can help coordinate the project, and put everything together. The artistic Counselors can give "professional" feedback. All of the people above as well as other project members will participate in drawing and editing and will be in the credits.

Back Design(first draft) - chmagicdude and Derek911
Ace of spades - NathanCanadas
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - Derek911
Ace of clubs - zaganh
Kings - Loldudex2
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights -
Sevens - Kensei777
Sixes - RandyButterfield
Fives - Austin
Fours - John
Threes - NathanCanadas
Twos - KrystleLane
Single-faced ad card - chmagicdude
Gaff card - We will see later
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
PS: Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one to anyone!
Better?
I understand what you mean and don't want to put myself above all. I just think I can help coordinate and put everything together and would be more than willing to do so.

PS: I need your entire names so I can start putting all of them together into a spade pip. I have a cool idea but can't do it without your help. Sry I wrote this so big, I just wanted you to read it.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 07:27:06 PM
ok my name is chad scott i need your names 2 for the back.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 07:32:33 PM
 The ad card is to be left alone remember what alex said?
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 07:35:03 PM
no for the back design not the ad card.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 07:53:14 PM
Chdmagicdude, I am sry I have to say this publicly, but, could you please try putting punctuation and capitalization in your sentences when it is needed, and try making complete sentences? Because, otherwise, your posts are very hard to understand.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 07:54:07 PM
As well as stop trying to take control of everything. The back design is meant to be signatures, not just names in a cool font. REAL signatures.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 07:56:37 PM
HOW IS THIS PIC? I KNOW I AM GOING TO ADD signatures, TO THE BACK BUT I HAVE NO NAMES. http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0225-1.jpg (http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o569/chdmagicdude9/?action=view&current=DSC_0225-1.jpg)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 07:58:20 PM
To me it looks WAY too much like the infinity back.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 07:58:35 PM
Um... When he said capitializing, I'm near 120% sure he meant the first letter in a sentence. NOT every single one. And what I think about this pic would be mean to say.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
Thanks guys i well keep drawing more pic.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 08:03:04 PM
Please don't... :-\
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 08:07:56 PM
Dont what draw??
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 08:10:09 PM
Hey. That last comment was kind of rude. Let's try and keep it down here. Chdmagicdude is doing his best to help, so lets be respectful to him. However, I do believe that that shape resembles the infinity deck too much. Just let it go for the back design, we'll come up with something nice when inspiration strikes! However, you can start scanning your signature and sending it to me!
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 08:12:40 PM
I know my comment was rude. Sorry about that. But I don't think it's reasonable to accept a bad design for the sake of being polite. We already have something decent. If you want to propose something else, at least have something worthwhile to show us.
Being nice is one thing, but if it means an ugly back for the deck, don't count on me.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 08:12:53 PM
 my name it's chad scott.

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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 08:21:04 PM
I completely agree with you, Moon.exe. We won't accept a back design that at least 75% of the creators think is the best of all the others, but he is allowed to keep on trying, and maybe he come up with one that is genius. Which one was the back design you were talking about that was really nice? I didn't see it.
Thank you for your name, Chdmagicdude. Is english your first language?
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 08:26:55 PM
Which one was the back design you were talking about that was really nice? I didn't see it.
I said decent, not "really nice". :P I posted it a few pages before. It's just a concept of course, the names should be replaced by hand signatures and if there's enough space, it could be a two-way back.

The rainbow might not look good to everyone, but quite literally any color scheme you can imagine would be possible, as long as the signatures are black on white paper. Those with a tablet can also make a digital signature, just make sure to enable pressure sensitivity for a better look (Only for the diameter, not opacity.)

Edit: forgot to attach the picture, sorry about that.
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 08:28:49 PM
Yeah english is my  language.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 08:37:40 PM
Ok. Inspiration just struck me!!!!!!
For the back designs, I think they should be made out of our names, as planned, with a subtle 1 way design, just for fun, and in the background, behind the names written in bold, should be a crazy image, or a mixture of completely different images.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 08:40:11 PM
Now that's a good idea!
Picture this: The background picture, whatever it is, is black. The signatures white, rainbow or whatever we end up choosing, and the black outlines blend into the background picture. That would look great! In theory at least. What would the image be, though?
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 08:42:48 PM
Wow three new pages since I left. Im up for doi g the back with the names. You could all email me your signitures in sharpie on white paper and i can create files of each name.
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 08:47:15 PM
Moon's description sounds awesome! Although again, I don't feel that there is a need for a subtle one way back but thats just me.
And maybe the background picture could just be solid black? OR a...... paint splat? Yea, I like paint splats :) and my Splatter deck is kinda dead.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 08:50:11 PM
A paint splatter would be awesome. And I'm with you on the one-way back, I really like true two-way designs the best. :P Derek, you understand what I'm seeing, right? You take the black signatures, clean them up so that they form a solid black layer, and use the gradient overlay and stroke layer options to recreate the effect on the example.

I'm already cleaning up the rocking horse for the joker, by the way. ;)
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 08:52:49 PM
wait so if Derek911 is doing the back then what am i doing?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 09:08:51 PM
You can brainstorm and just start doodling something that could look nice. I understand the 2 way back design idea, but I think a VERY SUBTLE (lol, caps lock) back design would just show the magic in us. Just my opinion. I will send you my signature, Derek911.
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 09:09:52 PM
Are the signatures only for the people who designed the deck?
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 09:13:45 PM
All kinds of contributors. :P
Here's what I have so far...
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 09:16:20 PM
I'm guessing thats a Joker. It looks pretty cool but it may need a little more... umpf
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 09:16:59 PM
god job moon.exe it looks cool i cant wait tell it's done.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 09:18:51 PM
I'm guessing thats a Joker. It looks pretty cool but it may need a little more... umpf
A teddy bear is supposed to be standing on it. I said so in a previous post. :P
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 09:23:44 PM
I'm guessing thats a Joker. It looks pretty cool but it may need a little more... umpf
A teddy bear is supposed to be standing on it. I said so in a previous post. :P
I missed that with this being such a popular thread. A teddy bear would look cool! ???
... I think. I'd have to see it first though  ;)
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Post by: kensei777 on February 02, 2012, 09:27:31 PM
I'm guessing thats a Joker. It looks pretty cool but it may need a little more... umpf
A teddy bear is supposed to be standing on it. I said so in a previous post. :P
I missed that with this being such a popular thread. A teddy bear would look cool! ???
... I think. I'd have to see it first though  ;)


I agree but if that's your rocking horse, I am so expecting the teddy bear. It's cute (in a bad ass kind of way) so keep it up. Seriously, it really looks good that it makes me want to see the teddy bear ASAP!  :P



BTW my name is in my signature.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 09:35:33 PM
Speaking of name... Since we talked about having our names in the ace and signatures on the back, I think the signatures should be our usual signature, whether or not it is the same as our actual name. I usually sign art pieces with a crescent moon symbol followed by .exe which is obviously not my actual name, so the ace of spades would make up for that. :P
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 09:39:59 PM
Ya think so? I think the backs should have our real names, typed, and the fronts whichever one we choose, handwritten. I love your horse, too!
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 09:43:28 PM
Hmm either way would work. Then again, it's true that the ace of spades would have less space and would therefore work better with our shorter signatures. The back can easily accommodate full names.

Thanks for the good comments on the horse, by the way. Working on the bear now. And I'll probably add some background detail if I can find something. And I might remake the whole thing after I'm done, I'm not completely satisfied right now.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 10:04:36 PM
I thought the ace of hearts, which is supposed to be wild, could have devil's horns on his head, maybe they could even make out the shape of a heart, very subtly. I did this VERY quickly:
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 10:09:39 PM
Isn't the ace of hearts already taken? :P
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
I was kinda having trouble following which ones are typed, and which are our actual signatures, so I will just say what I think. I think the typed backs with the rainbow look beautiful, and it would be nice if the rainbow was two way. Also so you don't need to distort our signatures to make it look nice and clean, I think the backs should be types and the AoS should have our signatures. It would allow it to fit better, and we could puzzle-piece the signatures together, kinda like how the Charity Waters AoS pieces all of the little pictures into the AoS. Also, I don't think the AoS should have a border. I feel that would take away from the signatures, and artistic values.
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 10:14:26 PM
Moon i LOVE the horse, cant wait for the bear.


I was thinking, our actual signatures are usually large, odd angles and not straight. That would be easier and look awesome as the AoS...The back would look nice with a cursive font typed out all of our names. It'd be neat and simple.
I need a list of names, and I'll mock something up.


@Moon: Can you explain your vision for the back again? I know all the names will be together in lines, and it'll be 'solid', and I know the stroke etc. I'm just not sure about the subtle two way back.


EDIT: I just looked at the example again and I can do something cool like that. Idk if the rainbow would look better than a black and white gradient? I feel like the rainbow is a bit cheesy? That's just me though.
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 10:16:46 PM
Isn't the ace of hearts already taken? :P
According to the list, yes its taken. Aaron has the Ace of Hearts
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 10:24:13 PM
Derek 911, I agree with everything you said. The ace of hearts is taken, but apparently that person isn't working on it. This was just a suggestion!
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 10:26:39 PM
I just looked at the example again and I can do something cool like that. Idk if the rainbow would look better than a black and white gradient? I feel like the rainbow is a bit cheesy? That's just me though.

Imagine the example, exactly like it is, with a black imagine in the background, whatever it ends up being. The black outline of the names would blend in with the background image.
And the rainbow can be something else, it can be literally any combination of colors we can imagine really, as long as you know how to make a custom gradient. But avoid having black in it, it would blend with the outline and make the names harder to read.
As far as the suble one-way back is concerned, I'm against it and so is Evan, but I don't know about the rest of you guys.

Edit: Forgot to give you my name. Alexandre Blackburn (Now THAT is cheesy :P )
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 10:31:18 PM
I just looked at the example again and I can do something cool like that. Idk if the rainbow would look better than a black and white gradient? I feel like the rainbow is a bit cheesy? That's just me though.

Imagine the example, exactly like it is, with a black imagine in the background, whatever it ends up being. The black outline of the names would blend in with the background image.
And the rainbow can be something else, it can be literally any combination of colors we can imagine really, as long as you know how to make a custom gradient. But avoid having black in it, it would blend with the outline and make the names harder to read.
As far as the suble one-way back is concerned, I'm against it and so is Evan, but I don't know about the rest of you guys.


Okay I understand. Should the image be something related to cards like a spade pip? Also, maybe a gradient of blue to green? Or red to orange?
Now I don't really care for the subtle one-way back either BUT, isn't the whole back going to be one way? Unless I mirror all the names which will look odd?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 02, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
I also don't want a one way back.

We should really find a way to make a bunch of polls to see what everyone thinks about issues like this in a more organized way.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
Unless I mirror all the names which will look odd?
If it works for vslims I don't see why it wouldn't for us. :P
http://ramblerkudos.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/imgp2112.jpg (http://ramblerkudos.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/imgp2112.jpg)

The image could be anything really, as long as it can be mirrored(Or is already two-way to begin with). I don't really have any idea at the moment.
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 10:38:33 PM
Unless I mirror all the names which will look odd?
If it works for vslims I don't see why it wouldn't for us. :P
http://ramblerkudos.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/imgp2112.jpg (http://ramblerkudos.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/imgp2112.jpg)

The image could be anything really, as long as it can be mirrored(Or is already two-way to begin with). I don't really have any idea at the moment.


You speak truth my good sir. That look is awesome, I'm really excited to make the back with our names. I like the thin font, I might do something similar  ;D
VSlims have about 0 space between lines which I like, makes the transition cleaner when it becomes mirrored. The thicker and bigger the words the less sleek It'll look I feel like.
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 10:41:58 PM
OH also... I think If I do it thin like the slims, I should repeat the group of our names twice. That way, nobody's name is getting cut off while other's are completely intact.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 10:56:18 PM
Nathan Canadas is my name.
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Post by: xela on February 02, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
For the names, may I suggest creating a pattern and then just throwing it onto the back, like a Bee? Obviously you can choose to add borders. Tile the pattern on the back and cut off names no longer matter.
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 11:10:24 PM
For the names, may I suggest creating a pattern and then just throwing it onto the back, like a Bee? Obviously you can choose to add borders. Tile the pattern on the back and cut off names no longer matter.


Not 100% sure what you mean. Probably because I need sleep. You're suggesting a pattern and no names? Or a pattern with names?  ::)


I just did this in 5 min. Sort of just to give you an idea of something. Let me know what you guys think, input wanted!


(http://i43.tinypic.com/b97zx3.png)
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 02, 2012, 11:12:48 PM
It would have to be black and white to keep it a 1-way back. Besides that it doesn't look bad.
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 11:16:41 PM
It would have to be black and white to keep it a 1-way back. Besides that it doesn't look bad.


 ???  Just realized the colors need to be the same on both sides... Just need to add the image in the background and wondering what to do with the edges - Do i fade them out or add a background?
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Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
It would have to be black and white to keep it a 1-way back. Besides that it doesn't look bad.


 ???  Just realized the colors need to be the same on both sides... Just need to add the image in the background and wondering what to do with the edges - Do i fade them out or add a background?
Try black and white. Just to see what it looks like because I don't really like the rainbow too much.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 11:20:46 PM
 This is me doodling around trying out some ideas for pattern for whatever I might need it for. ... this is how I usually try to find inspiration. Looks much better in pencil though I must admit. its not yet done. I'm taking a break for now.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/krystle_lane/Trial.jpg)

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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 11:29:16 PM
This is me doodling around trying out some ideas for pattern for whatever I might need it for. ... this is how I usually try to find inspiration. Looks much better in pencil though I must admit. its not yet done. I'm taking a break for now.


Looks pretty trippy, I like  :D


Here's an idea I just thought of. Let me know what you think. Love it, hate it, let me know.


(http://i39.tinypic.com/w7h4sx.png)
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Post by: Aaron on February 02, 2012, 11:29:57 PM
Hey guys,


nathan, i am working on my ace but I cant put up pictures until my new laptop comes in tommorow or monday sorry about that, and I was busy all day so I wasnt posting here. I am making it so it looks like a heart that has been broken in half and sewed back together. Also My name is Aaron Wales and I dont think we should have a 1-way back.


EDIT: I just saw that back design and I think it looks pretty sweet. That added Discourse in red looks really cool!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 02, 2012, 11:32:49 PM
This is me doodling around trying out some ideas for pattern for whatever I might need it for. ... this is how I usually try to find inspiration. Looks much better in pencil though I must admit. its not yet done. I'm taking a break for now.

 I <3 this one! much much much better!!!

Looks pretty trippy, I like  :D


Here's an idea I just thought of. Let me know what you think. Love it, hate it, let me know.


(http://i39.tinypic.com/w7h4sx.png)
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 02, 2012, 11:38:35 PM
I like it, but the problems I find are:
1) There aren't enough variations between white and black (different shades of gray)
2) Some of the words are cut off and aren't continued in the next line.

Where can I fin the custom pip so I can personalize it?
Also, can all of our pips be different and placed in different places?
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Post by: danktrees on February 02, 2012, 11:41:19 PM
hey guys, i wanna help too, not good with design so if there's anything else that i can do, put me down. the names on the back is a good idea but im not sure if black and white would look good. it looks fine if u're just looking at one card but if u have a bunch of them i.e. when you fan them, it could look very disorienting, especially without a border. there might be a better colour combo for it imo.
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Post by: moonexe on February 02, 2012, 11:42:09 PM
The red "discourse" is a great idea! We should definitely keep it.
As for the edges, as much as I love stinger edges, I don't think it'd fit what we have so far.
With the way you have it, the image in the background could be white, with thin black edges on the names. I like the black and white scheme with the red for Discourse. :P   You could experiment with other colors than red, though; how about a soft apple green? Or a deep purple?
2) Some of the words are cut off and aren't continued in the next line.
 
You think that's a bad thing? It's what makes the design interesting IMO. If it's cut off on one line, it'll be fully visible somewhere else in the design. No big deal.
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Post by: Derek on February 02, 2012, 11:45:27 PM
#1 - I doodled this in 5 minutes haha, I'll take a lot more care and time into the actual design.
#2 - I like the names being cut off, like I said, I'd repeat the names more than once. If I didn't cut them off, the edges wouldn't be straight and clean looking.
#3 - I tried the stroke on the names and it didn't look as clean as without the stroke... IDK.
#4 - I can definitely try different colors, red/black/white color scheme just happens to be my favorite  ::)
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Post by: danktrees on February 03, 2012, 12:01:14 AM
imo i think it would be better if the contrast between the two colours werent as high. because when u get a bunch of the cards together it'd be harder to look at. another thing might be to add some sort of a pattern to how the names are displayed to make it easier to read and easier to see if u have a bunch of the cards next to each other. the patterns will help differentiate one card from another and make it easier to see. a border would solve this problem but if there's no border then maybe make every line a different colour (not like a rainbow but just different colours) and in the line that has discourse in it leave it white with discourse in red. a border might be good also.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 12:05:20 AM
I have to admit, I'm not a huge fan of the back design. Also, I think the back design and the ace of spades will be too similar, while the other cards will be drastically different.
But:
1) It's a start, and we can always change it later on.
2) Lets keep this momentum.
3) The deck is supposed to be crazy, so lets go all out!
4) anyways, if this works out, we can always do a #2! (probably not tho).

Please tell me this:
Where can I find the custom pips so I can personalize them?
Also, can all of our pips be different and placed in different places?
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Post by: Aaron on February 03, 2012, 12:06:54 AM
I actually think that the contrast looks cool. If you guys want, when we get te back finalized we could order one of those bicycle custom picture decks with the back design on it to see how they look. I believe they cost $15 instead of a $250 proto. and I really like the back so lets keep working with it! :)  Could you post a version with no borders?
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 12:14:39 AM
I honestly didn't spend too much time on the back so I'm open to anything and everything. I like it, but that's just my style.


Also, Nathan - The AoS will have the signatures of people, not typed out clean font. It'll look very different IMO.
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Post by: moonexe on February 03, 2012, 12:27:31 AM
#3 - I tried the stroke on the names and it didn't look as clean as without the stroke... IDK.
The stroke is only to avoid blending with the white image, a black stroke wouldn't be visible over the black background. :P

3) The deck is supposed to be crazy, so lets go all out!
As I said MANY times already, if the back is too crazy, it will take attention away from the faces. A simple back with crazy faces creates a nice contrast that is all the more crazy. :P

And the ace of speades doesn'T HAVE to be limited to signatures - it could have the signatures in the spade itself, and then an additional pattern around the spade. That would look great as well.

Derek, we don't have to go with it for the final design, but I really want to see what it looks like in other colors, especially apple green. Please? ;)
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Post by: moonexe on February 03, 2012, 01:02:13 AM
How's that guys? ;D
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 03, 2012, 01:07:19 AM
i love that that is one of my favorite jokers good job!
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 03, 2012, 01:14:40 AM
i don't what to do know becuz derek911 is doing the back i guess i well do the tens.
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 01:24:32 AM
How's that guys? ;D


 :D :D :D :D  Love it! Maybe have the reveal of him lifting his leg a little higher and having the bottom of his foot say like A <> or something?
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Post by: moonexe on February 03, 2012, 01:43:08 AM
Haha I actually thought of using the foot as a reveal already, but in the original sketch the footprint was a 3 and the belly was a C for Clubs. :P
I'll try to do it like you said.
Fun fact: Everything besides the thread on the button eyes is only two separate shapes, one for the horse and one for the bear. ;)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 03, 2012, 07:06:57 AM
Great Joker. I really enjoy the simplisticness of it. Will you still be doing the reveal in the blocks for the second joker.
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Post by: moonexe on February 03, 2012, 07:09:48 AM
I'll do some sketching after sleep, but if people prefer similar jokers, I have this done already
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 03, 2012, 07:17:44 AM
Wow, those jokers look really nice! I don't like the blue one as much though.
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 03, 2012, 07:33:19 AM
Suggestion, borrowed from the stripper deck I got last year:


On each card, the artist's name.  Make it print or signature, doesn't matter - whatever the artist wants, can even be a handle/signature/glyph or whatever else you use to sign your work.


Back - simple, tasteful pattern.  It makes the cards more playable/useable.  We want the focus on the front, and an elegant, classy back that doesn't steal focus from the front art.


One ad card - AetherCards; Alex's standard card.


The other ad card - THAT'S where you put all the names for credit.  Autographs if you like, print, both, whatever.  Use both sides of the card.  No symmetry issues because it's an ad card, never gets played.  If more space is needed, maybe Alex would permit the back of his ad card to have "page 3" of the credits.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 03, 2012, 07:54:28 AM
Suggestion, borrowed from the stripper deck I got last year:


On each card, the artist's name.  Make it print or signature, doesn't matter - whatever the artist wants, can even be a handle/signature/glyph or whatever else you use to sign your work.


Back - simple, tasteful pattern.  It makes the cards more playable/useable.  We want the focus on the front, and an elegant, classy back that doesn't steal focus from the front art.


One ad card - AetherCards; Alex's standard card.


The other ad card - THAT'S where you put all the names for credit.  Autographs if you like, print, both, whatever.  Use both sides of the card.  No symmetry issues because it's an ad card, never gets played.  If more space is needed, maybe Alex would permit the back of his ad card to have "page 3" of the credits.

I'm almost positive we wont be advertising Aethercards...unless I missed something.
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Post by: moonexe on February 03, 2012, 07:58:14 AM
I don't see why not. It's the Discourse deck, and Alex's forum. :P
If we have enough space on the credits card(sounds funny haha) it would be nice to have a QR code leading to the forum homepage!
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 03, 2012, 09:13:02 AM
Alex said we could advertise if we used his standard ad card design.  The general consensus was yes, let's do that.


But what do you think of the basic idea?  Using ad card surfaces for credits and making a simple, elegant back?
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 03, 2012, 09:45:41 AM
 I love the idea of a simple elegant back. its like:

**person sees tuck case with the back design**
"Back design looks nice and clean ^-^"
**person opens box and pulls out cards and flips it over**
"Awww, what a cute joker!"
**Spreads the deck**
"WTF!!!!!!!!!!! This is the CRAZIEST deck EVAH! who'd have thought...>.>...."

but yeah. you get the gist. I love the idea of a nice clean back design and insane face designs.
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 10:53:39 AM
So Don, you want to throw out the idea of the names on the back and the names on the AoS?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 03, 2012, 11:04:54 AM
Sorry that I misunderstood what Alex was saying about the ad card, but I understand now.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 11:14:05 AM
Here, I guesss I'll butt into the conversation:
1) I love the jokers, I was about to suggest that you make a purple and a blue one, each reflections of each other, but since you've already done that, I think it is perfect and fits perfectly the them of the deck.
2) I think the the Ace of Spades should be made out of our complete names all put together, but the back shouldn't, and here's why:
- If both are created based on the same concept, they will reflect each other too much and this will bring down the "craziness" of the deck.
- The back should be very eye appealing, so spreading through the backs of the cards will be fun.
- I believe that the ace of spades should also containt the word "Discourse" written in red, in the middle of it.
3) Alex will take care of the ad card.
This is what I think, and I completely agree with Lara Krystle Lane:
**person sees tuck case with the back design**
"Back design looks nice and clean (http://aethercards.com/discourse/Smileys/aaron/azn.gif)"
**person opens box and pulls out cards and flips it over**
"Awww, what a cute joker!"
**Spreads the deck**
"WTF!!!!!!!!!!! This is the CRAZIEST deck EVAH! who'd have thought...>.>...."

Nathan
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 11:36:47 AM
Just made this back. I'm not sure what I think of it, but I think it looks clean. Tell me your opinions, advice on anything to change OR if I need to throw it in the trash and burn it.


P.S. there's a subtle 'D' which shouldn't be too hard to see  ;D ;D


(http://i40.tinypic.com/2exyreb.png)
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 11:42:07 AM
Ok. that is a great idea, but I still think there should be a subtle, but nice background behind this. Great idea, tho!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 03, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
 You can also try a shade instead of a tint of citron for the "D's" because the contrast against the white is a little too harsh to the eyes.... or maybe its just me ^-^. Maybe color the background something neutral intead of the #ffffff color.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 11:46:34 AM
Basically, what I mean is that, would you see yourself fanning through these cards? How would it look? We need to make sure fanning and spreading would look nice. Also, I think that on the faces of the cards, in the right corners, there should be a little something, like for the Steampunk deck. Each something can be different and represent the face of the cards, and this would make fanning through the cards much nicer!
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 11:49:10 AM
I just tried putting a fanned deck of cards behind it, changed the opacity etc and it looks like crap. Basically you can make out a shape, but other than that it's a blurry mess. If you want a simple pattern, it won't be too awesome looking for fanning.... unless you have no borders
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 11:55:05 AM
Which is why I think we should have something in the corners on both the faces and the backs.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 03, 2012, 11:55:36 AM
What about doing the back something like a Mondrian painting?

The grids could be white or black and the boxes could be varying shades of the
Discourse dark blue. I could be symmetrical and a couple boxes could have very
subtle type that says "Design & Development" and a couple other boxes could
have "Discourse". It would almost be like a visual representation of a forum itself.

thanks, Randy
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 11:59:08 AM
What about doing the back something like a Mondrian painting?

The grids could be white or black and the boxes could be varying shades of the
Discourse dark blue. I could be symmetrical and a couple boxes could have very
subtle type that says "Design & Development" and a couple other boxes could
have "Discourse". It would almost be like a visual representation of a forum itself.

thanks, Randy


That's a great idea! I'll try doing something like that next. So the boxes would be varying shades of blue and varying sizes? I kind of get what you're saying, could you do a quick sketch just to clarify?
EDIT: I didn't see the picture at first. I love the idea, I'll try it in a second.


I just did this... I hope you guys see this too, the optical illusion I just made. It looks like ripples or waves in the card!!  ;D


(http://i39.tinypic.com/111jl8m.png)
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 03, 2012, 12:28:16 PM
 This color is much much better. :P Good job! :P 
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 12:30:51 PM
Much better!
But:
1) We should have discourse written out somewhere
2) We should have indexes in the corners
3) Maybe a background so they look nicer than bees?
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 12:32:33 PM
Much better!
But:
1) We should have discourse written out somewhere
2) We should have indexes in the corners
3) Maybe a background so they look nicer than bees?


Yeah I'll work on the discourse. And indexes in the corners of the back? Why?  ::)
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 12:33:50 PM
So it looks nice in the corners when we fan the cards, just like the Steampunk deck.
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 12:38:31 PM
So it looks nice in the corners when we fan the cards, just like the Steampunk deck.


Okay, but in the steampunk deck, the corners are part of the design, so if you compare it to mine, it would be like the corner 'D's are the indexes. Do you want me to add something in place of them? Or just around them.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
It doesn't matter, whichever one looks nicer. I also think that on the faces of the cards we should have some, each one representing the whole face of the card.
I also wanted to say this:
I don't think we should have our signatures on the bottom of each of the cards we design because we will all contribute in a way or another to this deck, no matter if we actually designed the cards or not. I think the ace of spades with our signatures is enough.
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
Everyone involved in this and who has Skype should have a Skype meeting, or even Google+ hangout meeting. It'd be a lot faster and easier to communicate  :-*
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
Ichat? I don't have skype or Google +
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Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 12:45:54 PM
Ichat? I don't have skype or Google +


Yeah i have ichat, but i doubt everyone has a mac.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 03, 2012, 12:51:15 PM
And I doubt we can coordinate a video conference with more than 5 people.
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Post by: Evan on February 03, 2012, 02:43:55 PM
I'll do some sketching after sleep, but if people prefer similar jokers, I have this done already
Dude this is awesome! I love the colors you used and how they fade in the middle
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Post by: austin on February 03, 2012, 04:24:45 PM
I have GIMP, and I can't use the file from Xmetal because its for photoshop, and if you do I could possibly work on the Fives as someone suggested.
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Post by: moonexe on February 03, 2012, 07:35:19 PM
I'm pretty sure there are plugins out there to open a PSD in Gimp. I wouldn't know though, I hate Gimp more than UC members hate De'vo. :P
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Post by: John B. on February 03, 2012, 08:04:40 PM
so i just found this and really want to help, if someone can go to my page and use the contact me button to email info to my email i can check that on my phone while this site only at the rare times im on a computer.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 03, 2012, 08:17:36 PM
 Aight! We'll update you via email as well. :P
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Post by: austin on February 03, 2012, 10:57:23 PM
I'm pretty sure there are plugins out there to open a PSD in Gimp. I wouldn't know though, I hate Gimp more than UC members hate De'vo. :P
I'm using chrome.
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 03, 2012, 11:15:38 PM
Sadly I'm going to have to back out of the project. I don't have the time with exams coming up. I would love to be apart of a project with so many amazing and talented artists, but I just wouldn't be able to give you all the dedication you deserve. If I can help in any other way I'd be honored. This is going to be one amazing deck and I wish you all the best on it.

Sorry again!
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Post by: Billywiz on February 03, 2012, 11:38:48 PM
What about doing the back something like a Mondrian painting?

The grids could be white or black and the boxes could be varying shades of the
Discourse dark blue. I could be symmetrical and a couple boxes could have very
subtle type that says "Design & Development" and a couple other boxes could
have "Discourse". It would almost be like a visual representation of a forum itself.

thanks, Randy


That's a great idea! I'll try doing something like that next. So the boxes would be varying shades of blue and varying sizes? I kind of get what you're saying, could you do a quick sketch just to clarify?
EDIT: I didn't see the picture at first. I love the idea, I'll try it in a second.


I just did this... I hope you guys see this too, the optical illusion I just made. It looks like ripples or waves in the card!!  ;D


(http://i39.tinypic.com/111jl8m.png)
I like this design and can easily see the wave illusion. What do you think it would look like with The Discourse forum simble and the year the forum was started in the corners of the back design? this would break up the white boarder when you fan the deck. I'm no artist so I'm not sure if this is even possible,but if your designing a deck for the forum it would be nice to see something on the deck that lets you know when The Discourse was formed. Just my 2 cents.
 
Billy.
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Post by: xela on February 04, 2012, 12:04:33 AM
Hey guys, I have a few things to say:

1. I love the teamwork I am seeing and some of the stuff created are on the way to becoming a very interesting design.
2. If you guys want, feel free to have this be some other deck. I never demanded that AC or The Discourse be advertised, I just said that if you guys want to include an ad card for the boards, we have to use the my standard ad card and not something created by a member.
3. You guys have 100% permission to use anything and everything on the boards. If you want some of the raw files that I have for the site, just ask. I think it would be really cool to see the Omnes pip transformed into a legitimate Ace of Spades, let me know what you think!
4. The ad card can either be the standard card I use, it could be an ad card on one side and a continuation of names on the other, or I could do something fun and throw in a back design for the next deck, whatever it may be at the time. Up to you all!

Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Don Boyer on February 04, 2012, 05:59:42 AM
I really, really like the "rippled waves" D back design.  It really captures the eye, it's very simple, not even on the level of Rider Backs for flash - which for this deck I think is a good thing, because we want people jazzed about the faces more than the backs.  It's a pretty neutral design without being boring.

I liked the earlier version that had DISCOURSE running down from the left corners - keep that idea, but maybe use a more blue or purple shade.  It would in essence look like an index running down from the left corner - in fans and spreads, I think it would look very cool.  (Anyone got the chops to create a mock-up fan of this?)

Try to make the border thin - like "Tendril Deck" thin.  I like a border, but I REALLY like a super slim border, because they make the fans look all the more attractive while also remaining a highly functional design.

And I have an overall suggestion for the front designs - vote me down if you think I'm wrong:

DON'T go into the bleed on the front designs.  I have decks that have different bleed designs on them, and they look horrible and practically make it a marked deck.  Leave at least a slight border, so the front patterns aren't edge-visible as well as to compensate for the front being slightly off-center in relation to the back - which nearly always happens at USPC.
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Post by: Evan on February 04, 2012, 11:31:12 AM
@Moon, instead of having the word "Joker" on the joker, maybe you could have the word "Discourse" instead?
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Post by: Derek on February 04, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
Here it is with thinner borders and the DISCOURSE in the corners...along with a VERY poorly photoshopped fan.


(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8149/screenshot20120204at125.png)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/iw4sxx.png)
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Post by: kensei777 on February 04, 2012, 02:23:44 PM

                                                                         ?
Uuuuhhhh.... Sorry, can't see the images... :-\
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Post by: Derek on February 04, 2012, 02:39:31 PM

                                                                         ?
Uuuuhhhh.... Sorry, can't see the images... :-\


I'm not sure why, I can see it..  ::)
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Post by: Frost on February 04, 2012, 02:46:50 PM
is that going to be the ad card or is it going to be the back of the cards ??
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Post by: kensei777 on February 04, 2012, 03:15:01 PM

                                                                         ?
Uuuuhhhh.... Sorry, can't see the images... :-\


I'm not sure why, I can see it..  ::)


Nevermind, got it. I had to register at imageshack first though  :P


They look awesome btw, good job!  :D
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Post by: Evan on February 04, 2012, 03:29:54 PM
It looks very cool but maybe try having a standard sized border? or a dark line separating the border from the design?
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 04, 2012, 04:08:21 PM
I say either go with the diagonal wording and the discourse or just go with the wavy D design and no discourse. I think both look good but mixing them isn't that great.
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Post by: Derek on February 04, 2012, 04:17:32 PM
It looks very cool but maybe try having a standard sized border? or a dark line separating the border from the design?


I love the thin border on it, as does Don because he asked for it. I can try the line though, idk if it'll look better.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Derek on February 04, 2012, 04:20:18 PM
I say either go with the diagonal wording and the discourse or just go with the wavy D design and no discourse. I think both look good but mixing them isn't that great.


I'll see if Nathan can change the poll at the top to be about the back design, that we we can get a record of what people want. It's hard to tell with all of the random input and posts.


EDIT: Also, I was just thinking of different options to vote on. The wave design with and without 'DISCOURSE'. The names diagonally across. I was also thinking, if it was just the D wave design, I could try to hide a escret in the back. Since it is so simple, it'd be cool to have a hidden message or secret that most people won't see.
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Post by: moonexe on February 04, 2012, 05:02:07 PM
2. If you guys want, feel free to have this be some other deck. I never demanded that AC or The Discourse be advertised, [...]
We don't want. Something about being proud to be part of this forum, I guess. :P
Quote
[...]or I could do something fun and throw in a back design for the next deck, whatever it may be at the time. Up to you all!
That would be amazing! ;D

I love the current back design, personally. Especially after seeing the picture of the fan - It really looks sweet on an actual card. I don't want it to be red, though, as I never use red decks. :P
The current color scheme is nice, but you could try something less teal-ish - More like a grayish blue with a deeper blue for the Discourse? Just an idea.

As for the idea(whoever said it) of having Discourse instead of the word "joker", that's pretty clever as well, I might go with that. ;)


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Post by: Evan on February 04, 2012, 05:10:33 PM

As for the idea(whoever said it) of having Discourse instead of the word "joker", that's pretty clever as well, I might go with that. ;)
I said that :) Thanks
It looks like Derek too that idea and used it for the back design too.
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Post by: Derek on February 04, 2012, 05:27:53 PM
2. If you guys want, feel free to have this be some other deck. I never demanded that AC or The Discourse be advertised, [...]
We don't want. Something about being proud to be part of this forum, I guess. :P
Quote
[...]or I could do something fun and throw in a back design for the next deck, whatever it may be at the time. Up to you all!
That would be amazing! ;D

I love the current back design, personally. Especially after seeing the picture of the fan - It really looks sweet on an actual card. I don't want it to be red, though, as I never use red decks. :P
The current color scheme is nice, but you could try something less teal-ish - More like a grayish blue with a deeper blue for the Discourse? Just an idea.

As for the idea(whoever said it) of having Discourse instead of the word "joker", that's pretty clever as well, I might go with that. ;)


Yeah I'm not sold on the tele or the red. Just showing two different schemes. I like the grey/blue color idea, I'll try it out  :-X
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 04, 2012, 07:27:02 PM
 Just my personal preference. I like the blue one that you made. There's just so much red decks now-a-days i think. hahahaha!

See the gradient effect on this here reply I'm making.
What if you do this on the blue design that you made?
The Darker Blue Green (Slate) on the outside gradients
 to the turqoise-ish on the inside?


 its just an idea though. :P
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Post by: moonexe on February 04, 2012, 07:56:19 PM
Yeah, I actually dislike red decks for a pretty cheesy reason (The color and what it suggests doesn't suit my personality), but I agree that people are a bit too fond of it in general. :P Not to mention red is the standard color for trick decks, making things worse with magicians...
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Post by: Aaron on February 05, 2012, 01:40:34 AM
I really like that back design and I think you sould keep the thin border, this isn`t going to be a deck for magician so it doesnt have to be super practical! This project is coming along great :)   I will have some pictures of my Ace of Hearts up probably next Wednesday possibly a little sooner. I have to get my laptop Monday and then Recreate my design Digitally and then I will post a picture. Also I will look into prices at different companies for a 500-2000 deck run and see how much they cost for different qualities. I think we should go with at least a 1000 deck run.
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 05, 2012, 03:16:26 AM
I really like that back design and I think you sould keep the thin border, this isn`t going to be a deck for magician so it doesnt have to be super practical! This project is coming along great :)   I will have some pictures of my Ace of Hearts up probably next Wednesday possibly a little sooner. I have to get my laptop Monday and then Recreate my design Digitally and then I will post a picture. Also I will look into prices at different companies for a 500-2000 deck run and see how much they cost for different qualities. I think we should go with at least a 1000 deck run.

I don't think a thin white border is "bad" for magicians, per se.  The only thing that's bad is when the card edge on both sides doesn't match - which is why Artifice v.1 was griped about by so many magicians.  It could even be a black border, as long as there's a matching black border on the front.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: slyS on February 05, 2012, 05:59:22 AM
Hi everyone! I am new to this forum. I happened to come across this thread by chance and I think that this is a wonderful idea!

After reading every posts, here are my thoughts for the deck...

AoS:

Instead of using everyone's name or signature, I suggest that we could design the word 'discourse' to fit into the shape of the spade.

Cards:

As for the cards, I do support Sabacc's suggestion of adding the artist's signature or anything that represents the artist to the card that he/she designed. I think that this is their artwork and we should acknowledged them for their efforts.

Back:

IF its possible, I think that we could follow the idea of having a thin border and the word 'discourse' written diagonally down. However, on top of that, I suggest that we design it in such a way that when we do our fans, the word 'discourse' will link and seems to 'run' from the first to the last card of the fan. In addition, we can design the word 'discourse' to be readable in two directions  in the middle like the ones seen in the enigma deck and make the diagonal pattern appears to fade slowly as it approaches an area of 'white space' surrounding the middle word to make the latter look more outstanding. 

Well these are just my thoughts for this deck, feasible or not will be another question though, Most importantly, I hope everyone will understand what I meant and be able to visualise it. Since this will be the very first deck designed and planned by the members of the discourse forum, I think that it will be nice to have some important signatures of a deck like that AoS and back design to revolve around the word 'discourse'. Feel free to leave your comments!

Also, I will like to know if I can design the 6 of clubs, Thanks!
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 05, 2012, 06:40:18 AM
Hi everyone! I am new to this forum. I happened to come across this thread by chance and I think that this is a wonderful idea!

After reading every posts, here are my thoughts for the deck...

AoS:

Instead of using everyone's name or signature, I suggest that we could design the word 'discourse' to fit into the shape of the spade.

Cards:

As for the cards, I do support Sabacc's suggestion of adding the artist's signature or anything that represents the artist to the card that he/she designed. I think that this is their artwork and we should acknowledged them for their efforts.

Back:

IF its possible, I think that we could follow the idea of having a thin border and the word 'discourse' written diagonally down. However, on top of that, I suggest that we design it in such a way that when we do our fans, the word 'discourse' will link and seems to 'run' from the first to the last card of the fan. In addition, we can design the word 'discourse' to be readable in two directions  in the middle like the ones seen in the enigma deck and make the diagonal pattern appears to fade slowly as it approaches an area of 'white space' surrounding the middle word to make the latter look more outstanding. 

Well these are just my thoughts for this deck, feasible or not will be another question though, Most importantly, I hope everyone will understand what I meant and be able to visualise it. Since this will be the very first deck designed and planned by the members of the discourse forum, I think that it will be nice to have some important signatures of a deck like that AoS and back design to revolve around the word 'discourse'. Feel free to leave your comments!

Also, I will like to know if I can design the 6 of clubs, Thanks!

OK, are you SURE you read all the posts?  Because card designs are mostly being done by VALUE, not individually - meaning if you want the 6 of clubs, you're also doing the other three sixes.

I'm trying hard to wrap my head around some of the ideas you suggested for the back, and it's not working.  If you put the word "DISCOURSE" diagonally on the back, you wouldn't see more than a bunch of Ds and a few Is and maybe some Ss when fanning the cards.  Running it down the left edge makes the whole word visible.  Putting different letters in the corner to allow the spelling of "DISCOURSE" would effectively make it a marked deck.  And the whole word-read-the-same-upside-down-and-right-side-up idea has been done: the Enigma deck has it, and the forthcoming Run-It deck will have it as well if it gets off the ground.

I applaud your enthusiasm, but settle in first, read everything CAREFULLY and get some feel for the consensus before dropping in and saying "you should do this."
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Post by: slyS on February 05, 2012, 08:30:33 AM
Well, I do know that the card designs are mostly being done by value, hence that's why I'm asking if the person in-charge of all the sixes will mind letting me do just the 6 of clubs. I apologise then for phrasing my request wrongly.


As for the back design, I guess my idea is flawed, thanks for pointing that out. Regarding the read-whole-word-up-side-down design that you commented, my first thought was, did the artist for runit deck thought the same too? that once the concept had been used, it cannot be reused again? If enigma can be the first, runit can be the second, why can't we be the third? IMO what matter most is how you are going to use the same concept yet be able to produce something different.


Also I guess your last paragraph must be referring to the signature on the card itself (since that's the only part I used the word 'should'). Well I just feel that people should know who is the artist that designed/draw that artwork unless you are telling me that the ad card will be stating clearly 'who and who did which value, etc'.






Well, as I had said from the start and end of my post, these are just my two cents regarding the deck and your comment is well appreciated. I do know the direction you guys are heading, however, I think that my suggestions aren't off the track yet and I thought that feedback, suggestions and opinion are allowed. Of course if you guys think otherwise, I hereby apologise for posting and wasting your time reading them. Good luck.







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Post by: Don Boyer on February 05, 2012, 09:51:07 AM
Comments are fine.  Making a left turn from the right lane isn't.  You're suggesting some major design changes that veer from where things have been heading up 'til now.
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Post by: Emmanuel on February 05, 2012, 10:03:17 AM
Wow, impressive work everyone; I'm really liking where this deck is going  :D

If you guys need any ideas, here are the backs and ad/credits for the collaborative decks I've mentioned before.


Versus, Volume 2 (the logos around the border are those of the designers):
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/Collab1.jpg)

Black Rock Collective, Volume 1:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/Collab2.jpg)

Black Rock Collective, Volume 2:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/Ncyclopedia/Collab3.jpg)

None of these decks were printed by the USPCC, and none have two-way backs.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 05, 2012, 10:19:09 AM
I'm really in love with the versus vol 2 credits card!
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Post by: Derek on February 05, 2012, 01:03:37 PM
Thank you for the input slyS, it was kind of hard to follow but I appreciate it. I'm not sure what I should do with the back since there are about 50 different ideas being put out there.

@Nathan: Can you make a poll for the back design?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 05, 2012, 01:04:30 PM
I just had some ideas.
1) The back design is great the way it is with the Ds in a wavy pattern and small borders.
2) Since this is a group made deck of cards and, although everyone will have participated in a manner or another, not everyone will have directly created a card themself. I still think the cards shouldn't have our signatures on the bottom of them.
3) I believe the Ace of Spades should have all of our names, for the credits, no matter how we participated in the project, and in the middle of it, in a contrasting color, should be written "Discourse" on it.
4) The jokers are great the way they are in my opinion, but I believe they should also say Discourse on them in the place where "Joker" should normally be written.
5) The faces should be done the way we choose, but I think they should all be placed in the same place, with small borders, to avoid making the cards too irregular.
6) I think the faces should have small indexes in the corners representing the theme of the face of the card it is placed on.
7) As for the ad card, we can use the normal AC ad card.
I think that solves:
- The jokers problem
- The signature problem
- The pip problem
- The ad card problem
- The back design problem
- The fanning problem

Who agrees?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 05, 2012, 01:07:19 PM
I have made the poll!
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Post by: Derek on February 05, 2012, 01:09:59 PM
I have made the poll!

Thanks, thats awesome! I'm working on something special with the back right now  ;D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 05, 2012, 01:16:58 PM
Ok, can't wait to see it! I really hope people don't choose the third option, because, in my opinion, there is no interest in doing that, as it would copy our style for the AoS and would ruin it for the whole deck... oh well...
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Post by: Derek on February 05, 2012, 01:35:43 PM
Haha, split evenly right now. That's exactly what i was NOT hoping for. I'll give it some time though  :-*
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 05, 2012, 01:42:43 PM
I'm just wondering, why does the third option have to have a one way back?
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Post by: Derek on February 05, 2012, 01:54:34 PM
I'm just wondering, why does the third option have to have a one way back?

Oh, I didn't see that part of it. It doesn't have to be, in fact I would prefer it not to be. I can easily mirror the names so it would be two way.
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Post by: John B. on February 05, 2012, 02:25:57 PM
looks like the 2nd option is winning.
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 05, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
looks like the 2nd option is winning.

That's true but there are so few votes to really get a good picture of what people like. You gotta give it some time for people to cast their opinion. I'm still a fan of the first option.
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Post by: John B. on February 05, 2012, 02:43:45 PM
yea i know i was just making the comment.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 05, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
Well, I do know that the card designs are mostly being done by value, hence that's why I'm asking if the person in-charge of all the sixes will mind letting me do just the 6 of clubs. I apologise then for phrasing my request wrongly.

Sorry slyS, I have a plan for all four of the 6 Cards. They will go together visually and conceptionally. I have a tight deadline with a big project due mid-week but after that I will focus on the 6's (at night) and try to finish them up in a week or two.

I agree with Good@Sabaac. The same designer should be in charge of each of the four suits of their card value. The collaborative decks that Ncyclopedia references are great because each artist was in charge of four cards of the same value which helps the overall look consistent and a lot less "cluttered" if it was treated as a hodge podge and designers were in charge of random cards (ie. if someone had the 10 of Hearts, 6 of Clubs and 8 of Spades). The collaborative decks are also great because the quality is exceptional, and that takes time. I think the design of the Back Card is going a little too fast.

Derek, what about creating 2 or 3 designs you really like, take your time and fine tune them until you are very happy with all of the details and then post them for a vote? I couldn't imagine taking a work-in-progress and pitching them to a client!

thanks, Randy
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Post by: John B. on February 05, 2012, 03:03:00 PM
feel free to contact me if anyone wants ideas and such.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 05, 2012, 03:53:57 PM
Here is what I have been working on for the past few days. Now keep in mind these are sketches and no-where near being finished. The Diamond pip is for the Nine of Diamonds, while the other two are kings. They are supposed to be completely random. Also with the king that is playing poker, I plan to make one of the kings smiling, and one frowning for a subtle one-way back (I don't know what it could be used for, but I thought it would be cool. Also, one of the cards on the poker table will be face up so it can double as a reveal.

I'd know these are crazy and outlandish, but I'd like to hear all criticism!

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=WorkSoFar.jpg
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Post by: Evan on February 05, 2012, 05:22:02 PM
I REALLY like that diamond! Its really sharp looking and I love how its open at the top. Very nice work.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 05, 2012, 05:33:33 PM
I REALLY like that diamond! Its really sharp looking and I love how its open at the top. Very nice work.

Why thank you. It really means a lot! This just shows the power of what you can do when you're bored in history class. Do you think I should make the sides thicker, and should I make it skinnier? I will most likely make a few more diamonds and see which ones get the best response.

Secondly, what do you think of the court cards? Are they too weird?
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Post by: Evan on February 05, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
I wouldn't say they're weird but they just aren't my style.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 05, 2012, 06:07:36 PM
I wouldn't say they're weird but they just aren't my style.

I completely understand. I just figured if this is going to be a crazy and outlandish deck, I may as well try to make cards that will make people think "What was he thinking?" or "What's the story behind it?". I'm also trying to implement some of myself into this deck. For example, all of the poses the kings are in are photos I took of myself to base these figures off of, so I could get the body just right. Also, the jacket the king with the shot-gun is holding is an actual jacket I own.
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Post by: Evan on February 05, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
Looks like the poll is still a tie. I like the wavy one best  :)
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Post by: moonexe on February 05, 2012, 06:54:27 PM
Well, looks like I broke the tie :P
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 05, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
I will close the poll once we hit 15-20 votes, so hurry!
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Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 05, 2012, 08:46:15 PM
 Wow I see you guys been having a party while I was gone lol~
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 05, 2012, 09:21:38 PM
Hey Lushbob, I really like your designs! Great job starting the work! For the kings, I think they are great. The only problems I have are:
1) They are too simple in my opinion (especially the second one)
2) Can you make a mirror image so the card can be a two-way design?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 05, 2012, 09:28:50 PM
Hurry up with the poll, I will put a new one by tonight or tomorrow morning!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 05, 2012, 09:39:37 PM
Hey Lushbob, I really like your designs! Great job starting the work! For the kings, I think they are great. The only problems I have are:
1) They are too simple in my opinion (especially the second one)
2) Can you make a mirror image so the card can be a two-way design?

Hey, I think you were talking to me. I know the kings are too simple, these were just starting sketches. I plan to add much more detail, especially on the second one. Also, I will be mirroring them. I drew these on the card template, but for size purposes, I cropped off the other half because as of this point it is blank. I plan to open these up in Photoshop at school when I am all finished and mirror it.

Thank you so much for all of the feedback and criticism.
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 05, 2012, 10:31:54 PM
Hurry up with the poll, I will put a new one by tonight or tomorrow morning!

I would wait a little longer to get better feedback. You gotta wait til more people vote before you rush to the next thing.

@Loldude that Diamond is DOPE!! Such an awesome design. Props!
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Post by: Aaron on February 05, 2012, 10:40:44 PM
I really like the Diamond Pip and with more detail those kings are going to be sick!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 05, 2012, 10:45:51 PM
Hey, great job everyone getting started on the work. I can't wait to see what else you are working on!
For the faces, can we put the pips wherever we want?
The main opinion was that we can each model the pips however we like, but do they need to be placed in a specific location?
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Post by: Derek on February 05, 2012, 10:48:25 PM
Love that diamond loldude! I'm still not happy with the whole poll thing. 46% of people so far like a design, thats less than half. I'm going to try to come up with another design or two. And then settle on only one of the ones we have now. Then have a 2 or 3 back poll.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 05, 2012, 10:50:18 PM
Since the majority is clearly to have the Ds, with or without "Discourse", I am going to change the poll again.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 05, 2012, 10:59:28 PM
Thanks for all the reception on the diamond pip! I'm really glad you guys appreciate it so much! Who knew a doodle in history class could go so far?



Secondly with the back, I feel we should make a whole new thread with all the designs there, labeled A, B, C, D, etc. So then we have all the visual representations one after another and in view so we can really give a true opinion.
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Post by: Derek on February 05, 2012, 11:15:06 PM
Thanks for all the reception on the diamond pip! I'm really glad you guys appreciate it so much! Who knew a doodle in history class could go so far?



Secondly with the back, I feel we should make a whole new thread with all the designs there, labeled A, B, C, D, etc. So then we have all the visual representations one after another and in view so we can really give a true opinion.

I was thinking the same thing. I shall do it when I'm finished with this next design or two. :-*
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Post by: Aaron on February 05, 2012, 11:44:17 PM
Here is a very early draft of my ace of hearts design, Let me know what you think.




http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o581/azroth14/DiscourseAceofHearts.jpg
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 05, 2012, 11:50:20 PM
Here is a very early draft of my ace of hearts design, Let me know what you think.




http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o581/azroth14/DiscourseAceofHearts.jpg

With some more work I feel this could be a very strong design. I feel though you need to make the split through the heart look more curvy and natural, but as of this point I like it
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 06, 2012, 12:02:49 AM
I like it, although I think you're signature shouldn't be on the card, to bring out how much we work as a group to bring this project through. I think the AoH is a good start, but I think it should look smoother and subtler.
Here is a really quick sketch I made thanks to 5 minutes using Graphic Converter:
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 06, 2012, 12:04:45 AM
I like that 8, built will have a white border, right?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 06, 2012, 12:08:25 AM
Haha, I realized it looks like an eight, its actually a 10. Yes, it will have a small white border.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 06, 2012, 12:15:03 AM
I will re-do that other 10 of clubs, but meanwhile, here is my 10 of spades rough draft:
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 06, 2012, 12:23:17 AM
Oops sorry. Did I really call that ten an eight? Man I really need some sleep.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 06, 2012, 12:24:29 AM
@loldudex2 LOL
@everyone
I wanted to ask, one more time this question:
Do all of our pips need to be placed in the same place from card to card? I think we'd better not.
Please give me feedback on the very rough drafts above. I realise we can't see the 10s written, but I will take care of that tomorrow. g2g to bed, see ya!
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Post by: Aaron on February 06, 2012, 12:26:58 AM
@loldudex2 LOL
@everyone
I wanted to ask, one more time this question:
Do all of our pips need to be placed in the same place from card to card? I think we'd better not.
Please give me feedback on the very rough drafts above. I realise we can't see the 10s written, but I will take care of that tomorrow. g2g to bed, see ya!


Those look very nice, I think you should make it so the Indexes are more visible though. And I dont think it matters where the pips are this is a CRAZY deck so might as well have the pips in crazy places!
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Post by: Derek on February 06, 2012, 12:39:12 AM
Love the idea of the AoH, just keep working on it, make it cleaner, smoother looking  :D

Nathan, I like the ideas, just don't like how blurry they are and you can't really tell what suit or anything. Try similar ideas but with clean and clear pips etc.

Here's a quick Ace of Diamonds I did. i was bored of doing the back and got back on my other assignment.
Let me know what you guys think, it's a rough draft, but I personally love the idea.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/1zxtfnl.png)
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Post by: Aaron on February 06, 2012, 12:53:34 AM
Love the idea of the AoH, just keep working on it, make it cleaner, smoother looking  :D

Nathan, I like the ideas, just don't like how blurry they are and you can't really tell what suit or anything. Try similar ideas but with clean and clear pips etc.

Here's a quick Ace of Diamonds I did. i was bored of doing the back and got back on my other assignment.
Let me know what you guys think, it's a rough draft, but I personally love the idea.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/1zxtfnl.png)


Thank you Derek and everyone else for the feedback on my Ace. Like I said it is a very early design and I am going to make it look alot cleaner. I am also going to take my name off there because it looks bad. Truthfully that sketch of the design took me 5 minutes to make in Word :)  I am hoping my new laptop comes in tommorow and then I will start working on it in PS.


Also I really like that ace of diamonds I especially like the detail on the diamond itself with all the corners and stuff and the ring just adds a little extra to it :)



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Post by: dmbaggs on February 06, 2012, 03:32:07 AM
The blurry card is pretty cool! It's hard to tell what effect you are going for, but I like it. You should find a file share site or something where you can have all your pictures up. It'll make it easier to see the project as a whole. You could use tumblr, flickr, or one of the other multiple sites.
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 06, 2012, 03:39:52 AM
@loldudex2 LOL
@everyone
I wanted to ask, one more time this question:
Do all of our pips need to be placed in the same place from card to card? I think we'd better not.
Please give me feedback on the very rough drafts above. I realise we can't see the 10s written, but I will take care of that tomorrow. g2g to bed, see ya!

The pips - I think that as long as they look like what they're supposed to be (hearts, clubs, spades, diamonds) you can tweak the shape, tweak the placement, whatever you wish.

My one caveat would be that the indices on ALL the card designs need to be left BLANK for now.  We're having a unified design for all the indices to make these cards truly playable and useable for magic.  Also, to that same end, leave at least a thin white border around the edge of you design in order to have a uniform edge appearance for the entire deck.

A suggestion to make the index placements and space allocations simple: take a BASIC Bicycle Rider Back card with a reasonably-centered face, and look at the size and location of those indices.  That is what needs to be blank for your card's index.  Smaller indices would be harder to read, larger ones would come closer to dominating the design.

Do people here like these ideas?  I mean, go nutz with the faces, make them gonzo if you want, or baroque, rococo, Art Deco, his brother Frankie Deco, whatever.  But allow a certain degree of uniformity to each card's design or the deck will be harder to use, and less likely to be used (or purchased).

The Jokers are exempt from the index rule - they're Jokers, they can be whatever you want them to be.  I really like the idea of labeling the index "DISCOURSE" straight down the edge.

A final proposal: Loldudex2's diamond pip was VERY well received.  I propose that HE design the remaining three pips, all to be used in the index, in a similar style to the diamond pip.  If no one objects, we can also leave him to design the letters and numbers.  And naturally, all this is contingent on whether he feels up to the task or not.

If we do use that pip, we should probably thicken the line a bit to make it more visible in small scale.  Otherwise, I think it's one of the more interesting pip designs I've seen in a while.  That's precisely why I think it should be used as a "signature piece" for the deck, printed in the card indices, along with matching pips.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 06, 2012, 09:30:59 AM
I am sorry, but I do object with the idea of all of us using the same pips. To keep a sense of uniformity, we can all have the same backs and pip placements, but all having the same pips drains from the idea of liberty and craziness behind this deck.
I think all of our pips should be placed in the same place and being about the same size (no HUGE PIPS) so the cards look nice when we fan them, but I STRONGLY disagree with the idea of all of the pips being the same.
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 06, 2012, 10:28:55 AM
I am sorry, but I do object with the idea of all of us using the same pips. To keep a sense of uniformity, we can all have the same backs and pip placements, but all having the same pips drains from the idea of liberty and craziness behind this deck.
I think all of our pips should be placed in the same place and being about the same size (no HUGE PIPS) so the cards look nice when we fan them, but I STRONGLY disagree with the idea of all of the pips being the same.


Nathan, you do realize that I'm only talking about uniformity of the INDEX pips, right?  That the pips on the card face aside from the index pips can be tweaked to the artist's content?  If you've ever played with a deck that has 52 different indices, you should know how it gets old fast.  We want a cool, original deck, but we also want to make it functional and sellable.
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Post by: Derek on February 06, 2012, 10:45:18 AM
I have to agree with Don on this one. The only thing that will bring the beck together would be the back and the corner pips. Everything else will be completely original and crazy. I like it :-*
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 06, 2012, 04:14:41 PM
What do you guys think about me making one of the nines (or if I'm feeling really ambitious, a king) 3D, Like the old movies with the Red and Blue 3d lenses, so when you where the glasses, it will actually look 3d?
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Post by: moonexe on February 06, 2012, 04:30:16 PM
I can't see 3D, so I don't care for the actual functionality with 3D glasses, but for the classic red and blue look, GO FOR IT! ;) I also love your king designs, they look as mad as we need them to be. :P

Derek, your ace of diamonds is FANTASTIC! :D
And Aaron, did you consider my idea of meaking the heart plush-like, like the heart of a teddy bear? You could add a square patch along with the stiching. ;D

Nathan... Get a Bicycle promo deck from USPC and go play a game of poker with it. Or even just fan it. You'll get the point. ::)
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 06, 2012, 04:43:36 PM
A 3D card would be awesome! Obviously it would only work if you had 3D glasses but even without them you would still be able to use the card for it's intended purpose with no problems. It would be awesome if the 3 of Diamonds was 3D! haha
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 06, 2012, 05:43:18 PM
I am sry Derek and Don but I don't understand what you mean!
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Post by: dee1orean on February 06, 2012, 07:08:31 PM
I am sry Derek and Don but I don't understand what you mean!

Really? I think this is what Don means, If so, I fully agree.

When you fan a deck face up you see all the Numbers\Letters and suit pips right? these should be uniform, the same typeface for the Letters\Numbers. The same design for the Spades. Hearts, Clubs and Diamonds.

Everthing inside the Card can be as random as you like but the index pips (what's visible in a face up fan) should be uniform so that the deck can be functional.
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Post by: Aaron on February 06, 2012, 07:51:33 PM
I can't see 3D, so I don't care for the actual functionality with 3D glasses, but for the classic red and blue look, GO FOR IT! ;) I also love your king designs, they look as mad as we need them to be. :P

Derek, your ace of diamonds is FANTASTIC! :D
And Aaron, did you consider my idea of meaking the heart plush-like, like the heart of a teddy bear? You could add a square patch along with the stiching. ;D

Nathan... Get a Bicycle promo deck from USPC and go play a game of poker with it. Or even just fan it. You'll get the point. ::)
Ya I am going to make it look plushlike that was just a quick sample I threw together :)
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Post by: Robert Butler on February 06, 2012, 09:15:34 PM
I have a Club I created and decided I would offer it up if anyone likes it.  If the style appeals to you or anything similar I could work on it.  Let me know...




(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5826/731423i3vgdc6p.png)
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Post by: Evan on February 06, 2012, 09:19:34 PM
That looks awesome and very unique! But how will it show up on a white card instead of black?
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Post by: walther on February 06, 2012, 09:33:28 PM
Here's a random idea. I always thought this would be a decent start or base for a back or maybe an 8 of Diamonds. Not anywhere close to being an actual design just an idea I thought was cool and figured since I can't draw anything beyond a straight line, it might help spark someone else who is more creative.
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Post by: Robert Butler on February 06, 2012, 09:42:21 PM
Here you go Evan, this is what you would do on a white background.

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/9015/73414vpfhcxmg.png)
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 06, 2012, 09:46:01 PM
That's a cool looking club! Although it doesn't go well with the Diamond pip. So it should be decided if the pips will all be designed by Evan or if they will each be unique. I also like that back design for a starting design. With some work that could be an awesome back.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 06, 2012, 10:01:25 PM
I like the club, but I it's for the Ace of Clubs, I think it looks kinda similar to the Ace of diamonds, which isn't a bad thing, but it might seem like if two are partially the same, and two are completely different, it may look weird. Don't get me wrong, I REALLY think that club is beautiful, but I am just letting you know what I think.
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Post by: Evan on February 06, 2012, 10:17:55 PM
That's a cool looking club! Although it doesn't go well with the Diamond pip. So it should be decided if the pips will all be designed by Evan or if they will each be unique. I also like that back design for a starting design. With some work that could be an awesome back.
Designed by me? no way. I think you may be thinking of someone else...
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 06, 2012, 10:21:57 PM
I was thinking of Loldudex2. I might have said the wrong name. I know he designed the Diamond and I was referring to him designed the rest of the suits possibly? Or having each one done uniquely by a different artist.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 06, 2012, 10:27:45 PM
I was thinking of Loldudex2. I might have said the wrong name. I know he designed the Diamond and I was referring to him designed the rest of the suits possibly? Or having each one done uniquely by a different artist.

If you're talking about that diamond pip I made, I wasn't planning on that being an ace. I feel we already have a great ace of diamonds. I made that pop for the nine of Diamonds.

Besides, all of the Ace jobs are already taken up.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 06, 2012, 10:28:34 PM
Hey guys! Sorry I haven't been on for a few. But After much debate (in my head), I finally came up with a very simple and (something I like) design for my 2 of diamonds. This is just a very very rough (using a mouse on pixlr.com) sketch of it. The other suits will be more or less of the same theme. FLOWERS! Because I'm a girly girl like that. .
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 06, 2012, 10:30:06 PM
 of course the pips on the corners is not really like that hahaha! And as I understood we are all having the same unified pips right?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 06, 2012, 10:36:13 PM
of course the pips on the corners is not really like that hahaha! And as I understood we are all having the same unified pips right?

Yes the indices and the pips in the corner will be unified throughout the deck.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 06, 2012, 10:46:14 PM
 I dunno whats wrong with my computer. iS it just me who ca't see ay of the image shack images....?? If so then Meh for me.. its nice to see everyonereally excited about tjhis.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 06, 2012, 11:03:33 PM
I am having issues seeing some of the photos, but I can see yours, and I quite like it!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 12:43:55 AM
 Maybe we should not post it via imageshack. Attach it as a file or use something else. because I really wanted to see the other photos of their designs.
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Post by: xela on February 07, 2012, 01:40:20 AM
You guys sure are a talented bunch!
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Post by: kensei777 on February 07, 2012, 02:00:01 AM
Just a quick side note since I had the same problem before. For those who can't see image shack hosted photos here, you have to sign up and log in to image shack first.
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 07, 2012, 04:54:48 AM
What do you guys think about me making one of the nines (or if I'm feeling really ambitious, a king) 3D, Like the old movies with the Red and Blue 3d lenses, so when you where the glasses, it will actually look 3d?

Very cool idea.  Done well, a simple blue/red 3-D image can be seen reasonably well with the naked eye.  If you want to use 3-D, really USE it - make different parts of the card at different depths to each other!  I'm already envisioning Kings wielding weapons at you - the most over-used 3-D effect, but that's simply because it has IMPACT!

If we're doing 3-D, I can't imagine packing a 3-D set of glasses is practical - maybe we could print somewhere a link to a reliable supplier of 3-D glasses of ye olde red/blue type...  They tend to be pretty cheap.

I wonder...  USPC makes a SpongeBob deck that's 3-D and the glasses are in the box...  Could we...?

I am sry Derek and Don but I don't understand what you mean!

Really? I think this is what Don means, If so, I fully agree.

When you fan a deck face up you see all the Numbers\Letters and suit pips right? these should be uniform, the same typeface for the Letters\Numbers. The same design for the Spades. Hearts, Clubs and Diamonds.

Everthing inside the Card can be as random as you like but the index pips (what's visible in a face up fan) should be uniform so that the deck can be functional.

Yes - pip uniformity is important.  The rest is up for grabs.  ALL good art decks of any kind use a uniform pip style of some sort.  Without it, you have 54 mini-artworks, not really a usable deck.

I was thinking of Loldudex2. I might have said the wrong name. I know he designed the Diamond and I was referring to him designed the rest of the suits possibly? Or having each one done uniquely by a different artist.

If you're talking about that diamond pip I made, I wasn't planning on that being an ace. I feel we already have a great ace of diamonds. I made that pop for the nine of Diamonds.

Besides, all of the Ace jobs are already taken up.

Loldudex2 - I was suggesting you design the pips for the INDICES, not the aces.  Your diamond pip looked awesome, and if you could make the other three suits in a matching style, I think they'd look great.  Even better if you could design 0-9 and A, J, Q, and K to complete the indices in a matching style.

Here's a random idea. I always thought this would be a decent start or base for a back or maybe an 8 of Diamonds. Not anywhere close to being an actual design just an idea I thought was cool and figured since I can't draw anything beyond a straight line, it might help spark someone else who is more creative.

We already have someone working on the card back who is coming up with good designs.
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Post by: moonexe on February 07, 2012, 05:06:45 AM
But After much debate (in my head), [...]
So I'm not alone with that! Hahaha...

I really like it, but I can't imagine how you'll make it work with spades and clubs. Go ahead, surprise me. :P
Want me to remake it as a digital painting like I said a few pages ago? Though if you're gonna do it with pastel I'll wait for that instead, it would be closer to the final result and I wouldn't have to pick colors myself. ::)
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Post by: moonexe on February 07, 2012, 05:10:33 AM
I wonder...  USPC makes a SpongeBob deck that's 3-D and the glasses are in the box...  Could we...?
Probably outsourced. :P
I would better see this deck printed by Gemaco, since they accommodate smaller runs more easily. I don't know how they work with outsourced boxes/other items, though. Do they deal with it at all?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 06:37:42 AM
What do you guys think about me making one of the nines (or if I'm feeling really ambitious, a king) 3D, Like the old movies with the Red and Blue 3d lenses, so when you where the glasses, it will actually look 3d?

Very cool idea.  Done well, a simple blue/red 3-D image can be seen reasonably well with the naked eye.  If you want to use 3-D, really USE it - make different parts of the card at different depths to each other!  I'm already envisioning Kings wielding weapons at you - the most over-used 3-D effect, but that's simply because it has IMPACT!

If we're doing 3-D, I can't imagine packing a 3-D set of glasses is practical - maybe we could print somewhere a link to a reliable supplier of 3-D glasses of ye olde red/blue type...  They tend to be pretty cheap.

I wonder...  USPC makes a SpongeBob deck that's 3-D and the glasses are in the box...  Could we...?

I am sry Derek and Don but I don't understand what you mean!

Really? I think this is what Don means, If so, I fully agree.

When you fan a deck face up you see all the Numbers\Letters and suit pips right? these should be uniform, the same typeface for the Letters\Numbers. The same design for the Spades. Hearts, Clubs and Diamonds.

Everthing inside the Card can be as random as you like but the index pips (what's visible in a face up fan) should be uniform so that the deck can be functional.

Yes - pip uniformity is important.  The rest is up for grabs.  ALL good art decks of any kind use a uniform pip style of some sort.  Without it, you have 54 mini-artworks, not really a usable deck.

I was thinking of Loldudex2. I might have said the wrong name. I know he designed the Diamond and I was referring to him designed the rest of the suits possibly? Or having each one done uniquely by a different artist.

If you're talking about that diamond pip I made, I wasn't planning on that being an ace. I feel we already have a great ace of diamonds. I made that pop for the nine of Diamonds.

Besides, all of the Ace jobs are already taken up.

Loldudex2 - I was suggesting you design the pips for the INDICES, not the aces.  Your diamond pip looked awesome, and if you could make the other three suits in a matching style, I think they'd look great.  Even better if you could design 0-9 and A, J, Q, and K to complete the indices in a matching style.

Here's a random idea. I always thought this would be a decent start or base for a back or maybe an 8 of Diamonds. Not anywhere close to being an actual design just an idea I thought was cool and figured since I can't draw anything beyond a straight line, it might help spark someone else who is more creative.

We already have someone working on the card back who is coming up with good designs.

With the indices, I'm certainly up for the challenge! I will start working on them, and I will let you know how they are going.

Secondly, about the glasses, the USPCC says they can do practically anything with packaging, so I'm sure they could include 3-d , but who knows for how much! It would probably get pretty pricy. My guess is since we will most likely be funding these with kickstarter, why not just buy bulk 3d glasses for pennies a piece, and just include them with every order. We could customize them and everything, and it would be a nice added surprise for our purchasers.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 11:42:35 AM
@Sabacc (although that isn't really your name anymore) and Derek - I understand what you mean, and I agree. I thing you are, all the pips we see when fanning the deck should be the same. However, I think we could pick a different type of red and black than on normal bicycle decks. That can bring out a bit of fancyness in the deck. Maybe we could choose a red between the normal red and the titanium edition red, and a almost blue color for the black pips?
@Walther - Thanks for joining us. We already have many ideas for the back design. However, with a bit of tweaking, your idea could be used for the two of diamonds or something like that.
@LaraKrystleLane - Wow, I love that two! Nice job!
@Robert Butler - Thank you so much for that club, it will definitely be useful!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
Do you think USPCC would be willing to print index pips on all 4 corners of the card? So this could be a deck useful to leftys as well? If yes, do you think this would be a good idea? I think it would also add style and differentiate our deck from other ones!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 12:03:07 PM
Ok. Here is an updated list of jobs for the deck. If there is a check mark, that means that a draft for that card has already been uploaded by the artist on this forum. For the kings for example, 2 drafts for 2 different kings have been uploaded so there are two √. If you don't have a check mark next to the cards you are working on, please upload a draft as soon as possible.

Back Design - Derek √
Ace of spades - Derek
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - Derek
Ace of clubs - zaganh and/or Robert Butler's club design idea √
Kings - Loldudex2 √√
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens - Nathan √√
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights - chdmagicdude
Sevens - Kensei777
Sixes
Fives - Austin
Fours - John
Threes -
Twos - KrystleLane √√
Gaff card - We will see later
Single-faced ad card - Alex
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
We are missing a few drafts and a few artists. Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one on anyone! Let's keep up the work!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 12:08:30 PM
 here is a question though. how many colors are we using for the deck? Doesn't USPCC have different pricing according to how many colors is going to be used on the prints?
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Post by: chdmagicdude on February 07, 2012, 12:09:40 PM
i well do the Eights.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 12:39:25 PM
@LaraKrystleLane - If what you say is true, then I will have to start doing my math :/
@Chdmagicdude - thank you for coming again once again
@everyone - Can you please check my posts above, I have some important information!
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 07, 2012, 01:08:28 PM
here is a question though. how many colors are we using for the deck? Doesn't USPCC have different pricing according to how many colors is going to be used on the prints?

This will definitely be a 4-Color Process job. I don't think it needs any extra Spot Colors.
Cheaper printing prices would only be available with a 2 or 3 Spot Color job.

thanks,
Randy
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 07, 2012, 01:09:23 PM
NathanCanadas - I'm working on the Sixes.

thanks,
Randy
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 01:20:43 PM
Ok. Here is an updated list of jobs for the deck. If there is a check mark, that means that a draft for that card has already been uploaded by the artist on this forum. For the kings for example, 2 drafts for 2 different kings have been uploaded so there are two √. If you don't have a check mark next to the cards you are working on, please upload a draft as soon as possible.

Back Design - Derek √
Ace of spades - Derek
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - Derek
Ace of clubs - zaganh and/or Robert Butler's club design idea √
Kings - Loldudex2 √√
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens - Nathan √√
Nines - Loldudex2
Eights - chdmagicdude
Sevens - Kensei777
Sixes - RandyButterfield
Fives - Austin
Fours - John
Threes -
Twos - KrystleLane √√
Gaff card - We will see later
Single-faced ad card - Alex
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
We are missing a few drafts and a few artists. Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one on anyone! Let's keep up the work!
Is a 4-Color Process job enough for the whole deck as we will have 10+ different colors and shades?
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Post by: Robert Butler on February 07, 2012, 01:27:41 PM
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4378/7191610cwo6hesl.jpg)


I can make modifications and edit colors upon request.  Thanks
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 01:32:32 PM
So, Robert (or Mr. Butler, whichever one you prefer), would you be willing to work on the Ace of Clubs or was this just to help a bit? Because I think this would work for the Ace of clubs let alone the indexes.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 07, 2012, 01:54:27 PM
Is a 4-Color Process job enough for the whole deck as we will have 10+ different colors and shades?

Unless a card or two needs Metallic Ink for some reason 4-Color Process is more than adequate!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMYK_color_model

thanks, Randy
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 02:05:21 PM
Is a 4-Color Process job enough for the whole deck as we will have 10+ different colors and shades?

Unless a card or two needs Metallic Ink for some reason 4-Color Process is more than adequate!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMYK_color_model (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMYK_color_model)

thanks, Randy
Wow, that's really interesting.
Thx a lot.
Pretty soon we are going to need to do our math though!
PS: Can we put pips on all 4 corners of the cards to benefit leftys and make our deck even more unique, or does USPCC not do that?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 02:17:54 PM
The USPCC can do that, but is prefer not to. I've had decks with indexes on all the corners, and it made them look weird.
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Post by: Robert Butler on February 07, 2012, 02:23:54 PM
So, Robert (or Mr. Butler, whichever one you prefer), would you be willing to work on the Ace of Clubs or was this just to help a bit? Because I think this would work for the Ace of clubs let alone the indexes.


I'm willing to help any way you need.  I've tons of experience with deck development.  Just let me know what you need.
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Post by: Robert Butler on February 07, 2012, 02:30:16 PM
I have a question before I agree on any work.  Who is in charge of this project and planning to see it through? 
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 02:32:16 PM
I have a question before I agree on any work.  Who is in charge of this project and planning to see it through?

NathanCanadas is "running" this project, and Alex will be doing the submitting to the USPCC.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 02:53:34 PM
Ya, what he said lol. We would be glad to have you with us!
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 07, 2012, 03:16:05 PM
Robert, it looks like the Threes are the only cards still open.
Would you like to take them?
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Post by: hazofhorsham on February 07, 2012, 03:23:02 PM
Any cards unclaimed? I'd love to help out, and feeling a little poetic ;)


Also, I wouldn't mind advising on finance, I am pretty good with figures (I don't know whether this has been claimed, or mentioned - sorry for sounding noobish)
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Post by: Robert Butler on February 07, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
Ok I'm in, I'll get to work on the 3s but let me know what art is being developed for all the pips or is the a deck where every card is different
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Post by: Evan on February 07, 2012, 03:37:33 PM
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4378/7191610cwo6hesl.jpg)


I can make modifications and edit colors upon request.  Thanks
Thats really cool looking! I love the 3d!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 04:09:41 PM
The index pips will be taken care of by loldudex2. The rest is ours to create!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 06:54:47 PM
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4378/7191610cwo6hesl.jpg)


I can make modifications and edit colors upon request.  Thanks

BTW Rob! I really like your 3rd clubs! Its so cool!
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Post by: IAmTheChin on February 07, 2012, 08:08:11 PM
This idea was done quite successfully by a completely open source group that allowed any stranger to submit their designs. I wish I could find the link now. But actually knowing all the people making the deck, it sounds like way more fun. If you guys still have an opening let me know.


-Chin
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 08:19:46 PM
 Hey Chin I think there are still some unfilled spots for this ^_^ .
Hey guys I think we should re organize this. I can make a new post that is a bit more organized ^_^  kinda like my
Cards: History, Meanings, and More (http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=1609.0) Just so that it would be easier to keep track of whats been happening. What do you guys think?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 08:22:01 PM
This idea was done quite successfully by a completely open source group that allowed any stranger to submit their designs. I wish I could find the link now. But actually knowing all the people making the deck, it sounds like way more fun. If you guys still have an opening let me know.


-Chin

Correct me if I'm wrong, butI don't think the threes have been taken  ;D




Secondly, I finished the numbers and letters for the indices. I will hopefully post them within the hour.
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Post by: kensei777 on February 07, 2012, 08:45:09 PM
This idea was done quite successfully by a completely open source group that allowed any stranger to submit their designs. I wish I could find the link now. But actually knowing all the people making the deck, it sounds like way more fun. If you guys still have an opening let me know.


-Chin

Correct me if I'm wrong, butI don't think the threes have been taken  ;D




Secondly, I finished the numbers and letters for the indices. I will hopefully post them within the hour.


Huh? I thought Robert Butler already had dibs on the post?  :o
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 08:48:57 PM
This idea was done quite successfully by a completely open source group that allowed any stranger to submit their designs. I wish I could find the link now. But actually knowing all the people making the deck, it sounds like way more fun. If you guys still have an opening let me know.


-Chin

Correct me if I'm wrong, butI don't think the threes have been taken  ;D




Secondly, I finished the numbers and letters for the indices. I will hopefully post them within the hour.


Huh? I thought Robert Butler already had dibs on the post?  :o

Oh yah, Sorry. I forgot. I was looking at the most recently updated chart that says the jobs. Sorry.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 07, 2012, 08:51:49 PM
Yep, Robert grabbed the Threes this afternoon.

Loldudex2, I think you are the only one with two different sets. Would you be willing to give IAmTheChin the Nines?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 08:52:20 PM
Back Design - Derek √
Ace of spades - Derek
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - Derek
Ace of clubs - zaganh and/or Robert Butler's club design idea √
Kings - Loldudex2 √√
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens - Nathan √√
Nines (pick 2) - Loldudex2
Nines (the other two) - IAmTheChin
Eights - chdmagicdude
Sevens - Kensei777
Sixes - RandyButterfield
Fives (pick two) - Austin
Fives (the other two) - hazofhorsham
Fours - John
Threes - RobertButler
Twos - KrystleLane √√
Gaff card - We will see later
Single-faced ad card - Alex
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
We are missing a few drafts and a few artists. Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one on anyone! Let's keep up the work!
PS: I split some jobs because I hadn't heard of or seen work by those people and/or because they had another tough job to do.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 08:53:48 PM

Hey guys I think we should re organize this. I can make a new post that is a bit more organized ^_^  kinda like my
Cards: History, Meanings, and More (http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=1609.0) Just so that it would be easier to keep track of whats been happening. What do you guys think?

 Waaah quoting myself. >.>...... tell me if you guys want me to or not... O_o...
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 08:55:21 PM
I call the Nine of Diamonds!
P.S. Weren't we not supposed to split jobs due to the fact that  it won't look uniform enough, and the cards won't match? I feel a better way to do this would be to make a deadline(s) where you need to show how your work is going, and if you don't show any work by then, you are out. That is just my idea.



Also, here are my indices
http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=Indices.jpg
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
@Krystle - I don't think it is necessary, and also I think it will draw attention away from this thread, which we don't really want.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 09:05:44 PM
@loldudex2 - I really like those indices! Now we just need the club, spade and heart indices.
@loldudex2 (again) - You would like the nine of diamonds. Can you pick a second one, or do you only want to do one?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
@loldudex2 - I really like those indices! Now we just need the club, spade and heart indices.
@loldudex2 (again) - You would like the nine of diamonds. Can you pick a second one, or do you only want to do one?

I will also get the Nine of clubs please.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 09:27:33 PM
I call the Nine of Diamonds!
P.S. Weren't we not supposed to split jobs due to the fact that  it won't look uniform enough, and the cards won't match? I feel a better way to do this would be to make a deadline(s) where you need to show how your work is going, and if you don't show any work by then, you are out. That is just my idea.



Also, here are my indices
http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=Indices.jpg

<3 the indice! reat job! hahaha! Yeha I agree with ya on the deadline "thing" even if its not yet perfect at least we know that there is a form of draft that you are working on
Title: 2 of Clubs DRAFT for the discourse deck
Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 09:32:01 PM
2 of Clubs DRAFT for the discourse deck
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Post by: Robert Butler on February 07, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
I'm a little confused as to what i'm supposed to do.  Am I creating all the 3 Cards?  If so do i design them all to be similar or all different?
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 09:49:59 PM
 Yes it seems that you are in charge of the THREES (Clubs Hearts Spades Diamonds) As for the face design it does not matter I guess. As long as the back and the indices are uniform. As for the faces.. knock yourself out! hahaha! At least thats what I understood.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 10:17:25 PM
Here are the pips for the indices. Let me know what you think.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 10:34:34 PM
 Either they are invisible and magical or I'm really blind... ^_^
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Post by: Derek on February 07, 2012, 10:36:00 PM
@loldude: I love the indices! Do you want me to digitize them? or can you do that yourself?

Also, where are the pips?  ???
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
(http://g.static.memegenerator.net/cache/instances/500x/13/13893/14227062.jpg)

Me want to see pips too! ^_^ <3 ya!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 10:47:23 PM
@loldude: I love the indices! Do you want me to digitize them? or can you do that yourself?

Also, where are the pips?  ???

OOPS! http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndicePips.jpg

And yes, could you please digitize them. I'm not too happy with the "A" and the "K" though. Also, does the spade look too much like the Artifice AoS. I just realized that, or is it no big deal?
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Post by: Derek on February 07, 2012, 10:50:50 PM
I love them! When I digitize them i'll play with the dimensions a little bit, but I like the spade. It's similar but it won't be the AoS card itself, just the small pip. I like it  :-*
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 10:52:13 PM
Cool. I can't wait to see them.
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Post by: Derek on February 07, 2012, 10:53:42 PM
Quick question - Do you want them to be the outlines? Or can I fill them in? Because they look great now but It might be iffy when you shrink them to the corners, the outline may be too thin or look off.
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Post by: Evan on February 07, 2012, 10:57:35 PM
@loldude: I love the indices! Do you want me to digitize them? or can you do that yourself?

Also, where are the pips?  ???

OOPS! http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndicePips.jpg

And yes, could you please digitize them. I'm not too happy with the "A" and the "K" though. Also, does the spade look too much like the Artifice AoS. I just realized that, or is it no big deal?
Those are so awesome! I really like them. And yes, I think the spade resembles the artifice AoS a little too much.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 11:13:40 PM
Quick question - Do you want them to be the outlines? Or can I fill them in? Because they look great now but It might be iffy when you shrink them to the corners, the outline may be too thin or look off.

Do whatever looks best. I think it would look nice if you were to fill them in.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 07, 2012, 11:19:00 PM
 I love the pips! Great job! I really love them! great work! I'm on the tiny chat with Conjuring Creations and i <3 those guys
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Post by: Derek on February 07, 2012, 11:19:40 PM
I'm filling them in and they look great dude. I'll have them done by tonight or definitely by tomorrow since it's late here.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 11:26:21 PM
I'm glad all of you like it so much!

I really can't wait! I'm VERY excited to see what they look like. Also I would like the red to be slightly darker then Bicycle pips.


I will try to have a king completed by Monday, but I'm not going to rush it.
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Post by: Derek on February 07, 2012, 11:33:09 PM
Here's a few I've done so far. So tired I'm heading to bed lol. I'll have the rest done tomorrow. I love them!

(http://i40.tinypic.com/34pjct5.png)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 07, 2012, 11:35:04 PM
Wow. Those really look boss. Good work. I can't wait to see the rest.
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Post by: Aaron on February 07, 2012, 11:39:39 PM
I really Really REALLY like those pips!  Also I am working on my Ace still but is there anyone who once I have worked on it abit more, that could make it look plush like and touch up blemishes?
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Post by: Aaron on February 07, 2012, 11:52:46 PM
Latest in my design, I just threw in the backgroung to bring out the design. Still far from done but I have been working.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 11:57:17 PM
I really REALLY like those pips. Although I dont think that the suit pips should be filled in. I think they look perfect the way they are. Maybe we could have the numbers colored in with the suit's color, but the pips left blank. That would be very original. Yes, the spade does remind me very much of the Artifice AoS, but I think it's ok. Tomorrow, I will post a list of people who haven't been a part of the conversation since a very long time and I will give them a deadline to tell us about the progress they've made. If they haven't given us any info by that time, they will be out of the project until they show us some work.
@Derek - I don't know if you've noticed, but not all the numbers are the same color. I personally prefer the first color better.
Ty,
Nathan
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 08, 2012, 01:12:55 AM
i'm loving all the progress made so far! <3 <3 <3

Here is my 2 Spades DRAFT

I know my drawing all look the same. I really wanted the twos to be uniform in a way ^_^
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 01:17:36 AM
i'm loving all the progress made so far! <3 <3 <3

Here is my 2 Spades DRAFT

I know my drawing all look the same. I really wanted the twos to be uniform in a way ^_^
Those look awesome! good work :)
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Post by: moonexe on February 08, 2012, 01:24:49 AM
This idea was done quite successfully by a completely open source group that allowed any stranger to submit their designs. I wish I could find the link now. But actually knowing all the people making the deck, it sounds like way more fun. If you guys still have an opening let me know.


-Chin
Hey, since I'm also doing the Jokers, I could give up a queen or two if you're interested. :P

I really Really REALLY like those pips!  Also I am working on my Ace still but is there anyone who once I have worked on it abit more, that could make it look plush like and touch up blemishes?
I could give it a try, just let me know when you're done with the drafting!
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Post by: Derek on February 08, 2012, 01:42:26 AM
@Aaron: I'm sure Moone can do a great job but I'm here for help too   :D

@Nathan: I didn't realize I had colored them in differently. I have them outlined and filled in so I can change the inside color to anything. I'll play around with it :D

The back poll is still split down the middle. I'm going to work with my sister tomorrow on a back thats different and more elegant but also has meaning to the Discourse. Then I'll post it and hopefully we can all agree it's THE ONE. Hopefully.. haha
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 08, 2012, 03:14:59 AM
I wonder...  USPC makes a SpongeBob deck that's 3-D and the glasses are in the box...  Could we...?
Probably outsourced. :P
I would better see this deck printed by Gemaco, since they accommodate smaller runs more easily. I don't know how they work with outsourced boxes/other items, though. Do they deal with it at all?

I wouldn't necessarily run to Gemaco.  First of all, they're also a USPC subsidiary.  Second of all, while they occasionally come up with a good deck, many of their offerings are so-so at best.  It would depend on what their samples would look and feel like.


With the indices, I'm certainly up for the challenge! I will start working on them, and I will let you know how they are going.

Secondly, about the glasses, the USPCC says they can do practically anything with packaging, so I'm sure they could include 3-d , but who knows for how much! It would probably get pretty pricy. My guess is since we will most likely be funding these with kickstarter, why not just buy bulk 3d glasses for pennies a piece, and just include them with every order. We could customize them and everything, and it would be a nice added surprise for our purchasers.

I seem to recall that the SpongeBob decks were sold only at a slight premium.  It's a product targeted at kids - parents won't spend a ton extra on a deck of SpongeBob 3D cards if a pack of Bikes is so much cheaper.

I just looked - the prices aren't that much higher, but the packaging is something else.  It's a hang card with a plastic shell containing the pack of cards on top of a single pair of 3D glasses.

Instead of automatically including 3D glasses, we could make them available as a cheap accessory.  Many people already own more of those glasses than they know what to do with - why make them order more?  In fact, we could simply link to a reliable seller who has them cheap.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 08, 2012, 03:23:15 AM
 Well this is just me but I'm not too keen on the ideal of a "3d deck" or whatever. I personally wouldn't buy one. Maybe its because I always get a head ache when I look through 3d glasses, which is why I don't watch 3d movies. But of course that's just me. 
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 08, 2012, 03:45:29 AM
Well this is just me but I'm not too keen on the ideal of a "3d deck" or whatever. I personally wouldn't buy one. Maybe its because I always get a head ache when I look through 3d glasses, which is why I don't watch 3d movies. But of course that's just me. 

If we go 3D for some cards, we could toss in a 3D specs vendor on the credits card and offer his glasses via a website link - perhaps even in exchange for a small advertising fee?
 
 Don't worry, Krystle - you should be able to look at the cards in 2D with the naked eye and make them out reasonably well.
 
 
@Sabacc (although that isn't really your name anymore) and Derek - I understand what you mean, and I agree. I thing you are, all the pips we see when fanning the deck should be the same. However, I think we could pick a different type of red and black than on normal bicycle decks. That can bring out a bit of fancyness in the deck. Maybe we could choose a red between the normal red and the titanium edition red, and a almost blue color for the black pips?
 

 Sounds good to me.  Titanium Edition red is metallic ink - costs extra, doesn't handle as well without Magic Finish.
 
 
Do you think USPCC would be willing to print index pips on all 4 corners of the card? So this could be a deck useful to leftys as well? If yes, do you think this would be a good idea? I think it would also add style and differentiate our deck from other ones!
 

 Gotta be careful there.  While it's common enough in Europe, it's rare in the States, and people have pretty strong feelings about it.  Most Americans don't like four indices on a card - there were some here who didn't want to pledge for the Dead of the Living Dead because of that aspect of the design.  It also reduces the size of the artists' canvases.
 
 BTW: take "gaff card" off the list of things to do.  We're not likely going to have one; most art decks don't have a gaff, and we're going to need both sides of the extra card plus the back of the Aethercards ad card for credits/signatures.
 
 
I call the Nine of Diamonds!
 P.S. Weren't we not supposed to split jobs due to the fact that  it won't look uniform enough, and the cards won't match? I feel a better way to do this would be to make a deadline(s) where you need to show how your work is going, and if you don't show any work by then, you are out. That is just my idea.
 
 
 
 Also, here are my indices
 http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=Indices.jpg (http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=Indices.jpg)
 

 If you're that enamored of the nines, why not surrender the Kings?  I think having a single artist for each value and each Ace is enough "division of labor", and you're also designing all the indices.  Let others get a fair shot, too!
 
 BTW: great indices!  Looking forward to seeing polished drafts.
 
 
I really REALLY like those pips. Although I dont think that the suit pips should be filled in. I think they look perfect the way they are. Maybe we could have the numbers colored in with the suit's color, but the pips left blank. That would be very original. Yes, the spade does remind me very much of the Artifice AoS, but I think it's ok. Tomorrow, I will post a list of people who haven't been a part of the conversation since a very long time and I will give them a deadline to tell us about the progress they've made. If they haven't given us any info by that time, they will be out of the project until they show us some work.
 @Derek - I don't know if you've noticed, but not all the numbers are the same color. I personally prefer the first color better.
 Ty,
 Nathan
 

 Let's not stray too far from the standard on the indices.  All red suits will have red numbers/letters, all black suits will have them in black.  We can change the precise coloration a bit, but even if we go for, say, navy in place of black, all the black cards will have navy indices, suit and value both.
 
 Doing them as line art is great.  I'm loving it.
 
 @loldudex2 The spade pip does resemble the Artifice AoS, but only in the most vague way.  If you want yours to be a little more different while still be the same, flip the spade design you have, left to right - that should make it different enough.
 
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 07:22:27 AM
It's not that I really like the nines. I still would like, and I'd rather have the kings. If he wants I will give up the nines for someone else. He asked us to pick the nines, so I picked the bine if diamonds. He just started splitting up the categories a few times, so I just wanted to make sure that as more people come he doesn't keep on reducing portions until all the categories are split. I was saying that since some people haven't talked about, or even done any work yet that we know of, we should have a deadline for drafts before we just keep splitting up groups smaller and smaller.


Also, when I suggested 3d, I meant for one card, and it was originally going to be a nine, so it would be easy to read even if you didn't have any glasses. I was never originally planning on including 3d glasses.

Lastly, I never was, or am trying to hog all of jobs. The pips I drew for the indices were originally for my nines, but once everyone liked the diamond pip so much, I decided to make those pips I originally had for the nines for the indices.
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Post by: kensei777 on February 08, 2012, 11:05:28 AM
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been on a lot. If you noticed, Krystle's been posting a lot meaning she's been hogging the computer lately. Anyway, she's bugging me to upload something so here it is. I've been working on all sevens at the same time so none of them are really any close to being done yet but here is a rough draft of what I kind of want to happen with the diamonds. It's not even final yet so feel free to let me know what you guys think.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 08, 2012, 12:05:12 PM
It's not that I really like the nines. I still would like, and I'd rather have the kings. If he wants I will give up the nines for someone else. He asked us to pick the nines, so I picked the bine if diamonds. He just started splitting up the categories a few times, so I just wanted to make sure that as more people come he doesn't keep on reducing portions until all the categories are split. I was saying that since some people haven't talked about, or even done any work yet that we know of, we should have a deadline for drafts before we just keep splitting up groups smaller and smaller.


Also, when I suggested 3d, I meant for one card, and it was originally going to be a nine, so it would be easy to read even if you didn't have any glasses. I was never originally planning on including 3d glasses.

Lastly, I never was, or am trying to hog all of jobs. The pips I drew for the indices were originally for my nines, but once everyone liked the diamond pip so much, I decided to make those pips I originally had for the nines for the indices.

Hi loldudex2, I didn't mean to attack you or anything. I just saw that a great artist like IAmTheChin wanted to join in and looking at the breakdown of jobs every designer had their own set but you had the Nines and Kings. I know it started out that way because there weren't a lot of artists at the beginning. I also think that each set should have 1 artist working on all 4 of that set's suits. I'm fine with each Ace suit having a separate artist.

If IAmTheChin was to get a set of the Nines or Kings then I think the sets should be locked down. If any new artist comes along and wants to participate then they could be backup in case someone drops the ball on their set.

I think a lot of people haven't shown there work yet because they don't like to show in-progress work (myself included). If we're going to have a deadline to start dropping people if they haven't shown anything then it should at least be a week or two away. This would give people time to fine tune at least 1 or 2 of their suits for posting.

I'm not too gung-ho on the 3d card idea. It seems a little gimmicky.

thanks,
Randy
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 08, 2012, 01:08:55 PM
Indexes - Loldudex2√
Back Design - Derek √
Ace of spades - Derek
Ace of hearts - Aaron
Ace of diamonds - zaganh
Ace of clubs - Robert Butler's club design idea √
Kings - Loldudex2 √√
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - brown-baggs
Tens - Nathan √√
Nines - IAmTheChin
Eights - chdmagicdude
Sevens - Kensei777
Sixes - RandyButterfield
Fives (pick two) - Austin
Fives (the other two) - hazofhorsham
Fours - John
Threes - RobertButler
Twos - KrystleLane √√√
Single-faced ad card - Alex
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
We are missing a few drafts and a few artists. Feel free (http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=1595.460#) to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one on anyone! Let's keep up the work!
PS: I split some jobs (http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=1595.460#) because I hadn't heard of or seen work by those people and/or because they had another tough job to do.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 08, 2012, 01:19:35 PM
The following people have not posted on this thread since their original post showing their interest in being a part of this project:
- zaganh
- IAmTheChin
- chdmagicdude
- Austin
- hazofhorsham
- John
If you're name is listed above and you do not post regarding this deck by Valentines day, February 14th, at 12PM PST (time in California) you are out of the project for an indefinite amount of time.

The following people have not shown any of the work they have done on their selected cards:
- Moon.exe
- brown-baggs
- chdmagicdude
- IAmTheChin
- RandyButterfield
- Austin
- hazofhorsham
- John
You have until Sunday 26th of February at 12PM PST (time in California) to post a rough draft of at least one of you selected cards. If you do not, you are out of this project for an indefinite amount of time.
As for all of us, including me, many who already showed their progress, and all those stated above, we have until March 4th at 12PM PST (time in California).
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 08, 2012, 01:23:29 PM
As of the 3D idea, I stand against it for many reasons:
1) If the whole deck is 3D, it will ruin the original idea of this deck being as little uniform as possible.
2) If only one card of a series of cards is 3D, this will be cool, but it will be kind of ridiculous to have a 3D glasses option just for that.
3) Some cards can have a fun 3D theme without us going all out and going as far as giving some 3D glasses.
4) Even if we find a sponsor for the glasses, I doubt he will get much advertisement and we get much money.
5) I don't think that many people would choose to get the additional glasses reward anyways, because of the increased price and shipping.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 01:33:47 PM
As of the 3D idea, I stand against it for many reasons:
1) If the whole deck is 3D, it will ruin the original idea of this deck being as little uniform as possible.
2) If only one card of a series of cards is 3D, this will be cool, but it will be kind of ridiculous to have a 3D glasses option just for that.
3) Some cards can have a fun 3D theme without us going all out and going as far as giving some 3D glasses.
4) Even if we find a sponsor for the glasses, I doubt he will get much advertisement and we get much money.
5) I don't think that many people would choose to get the additional glasses reward anyways, because of the increased price and shipping.

I feel the SAME exact way. I think I will make one of the nines 3d. It will be easy to see without glasses. It will look very simple, but very cool. A 3d king would look cool, but it would look way to crazy, and hard to read and see clearly.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 01:44:55 PM
It's not that I really like the nines. I still would like, and I'd rather have the kings. If he wants I will give up the nines for someone else. He asked us to pick the nines, so I picked the bine if diamonds. He just started splitting up the categories a few times, so I just wanted to make sure that as more people come he doesn't keep on reducing portions until all the categories are split. I was saying that since some people haven't talked about, or even done any work yet that we know of, we should have a deadline for drafts before we just keep splitting up groups smaller and smaller.


Also, when I suggested 3d, I meant for one card, and it was originally going to be a nine, so it would be easy to read even if you didn't have any glasses. I was never originally planning on including 3d glasses.

Lastly, I never was, or am trying to hog all of jobs. The pips I drew for the indices were originally for my nines, but once everyone liked the diamond pip so much, I decided to make those pips I originally had for the nines for the indices.

Hi loldudex2, I didn't mean to attack you or anything. I just saw that a great artist like IAmTheChin wanted to join in and looking at the breakdown of jobs every designer had their own set but you had the Nines and Kings. I know it started out that way because there weren't a lot of artists at the beginning. I also think that each set should have 1 artist working on all 4 of that set's suits. I'm fine with each Ace suit having a separate artist.

If IAmTheChin was to get a set of the Nines or Kings then I think the sets should be locked down. If any new artist comes along and wants to participate then they could be backup in case someone drops the ball on their set.

I think a lot of people haven't shown there work yet because they don't like to show in-progress work (myself included). If we're going to have a deadline to start dropping people if they haven't shown anything then it should at least be a week or two away. This would give people time to fine tune at least 1 or 2 of their suits for posting.

I'm not too gung-ho on the 3d card idea. It seems a little gimmicky.

thanks,
Randy

No hard feelings whatsoever. Actually, I never even saw you ask me to give up one of the suits for someone else. If I saw that then I would of happily given up the nines. I feel kinda bad now for missing that, but I'm sorry for any confusion/ inconvenience I may have caused anyone on this project.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 08, 2012, 02:22:05 PM
@loldudex2 - It seems like I am good at making lists LOL. I gave the 9s to IAmTheChin, but you got to keep the kings and the indexes.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 02:35:42 PM
@loldudex2 - It seems like I am good at making lists LOL. I gave the 9s to IAmTheChin, but you got to keep the kings and the indexes.

If it weren't for your lists I'd be completely lost, and I am more then happy at your decision.
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Post by: Derek on February 08, 2012, 04:59:28 PM
@Nathan: I don't mind just doing the back, but when did the AoD get switched from me to Z?
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Post by: dee1orean on February 08, 2012, 05:47:55 PM
I have to admit I was extremely dubious about this deck. I couldn't see how a deck designed by so many people could work.
I'm pleased to say you've all proved me wrong!
There's some awesome design work going on here.

Now, if you could just sort out what's happening with the back!!!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 08, 2012, 06:20:30 PM
@Nathan: I don't mind just doing the back, but when did the AoD get switched from me to Z?
I thought that you already had a lot of work with the AoS and the back design and zaganh is a very good artist who wanted to pitch in a long time ago already. I decided to give others a chance. But if you want, I can change it back.
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Post by: Derek on February 08, 2012, 06:41:00 PM
@Nathan: I don't mind just doing the back, but when did the AoD get switched from me to Z?
I thought that you already had a lot of work with the AoS and the back design and zaganh is a very good artist who wanted to pitch in a long time ago already. I decided to give others a chance. But if you want, I can change it back.

I was never doing the AoS  ;D I was doing the AoD and the back. I'm fine if he wants to design the diamonds though....
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 08, 2012, 07:17:16 PM
He does want to do something. It doesnt matter what. I thought that you wanted all of our names for the AoS?
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 07:18:46 PM
He does want to do something. It doesnt matter what. I thought that you wanted all of our names for the AoS?
didn`t we decide not to do the names thing for the A of Spades
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Post by: Derek on February 08, 2012, 08:01:49 PM
The names were for the back design which we abandoned.. The AoS was going to be done by you wasn't it?
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 08:04:35 PM
I was origionally on all aces then moved to just the Ace of Hearts
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Post by: Derek on February 08, 2012, 08:07:45 PM
Okay well do people still want the Ace of Spades to be the names? I'm willing to do it but I need a consensus of agreement.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 08:12:49 PM
I would live the AoS to have our names/ signatures on them.
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Post by: Derek on February 08, 2012, 08:14:01 PM
Me too, and Nathan.. idk why Aaron said we decided not to?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 08:21:40 PM
I am currently sketching the third king, while also adding detail to the Shotgun King.
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 08:39:42 PM
Me too, and Nathan.. idk why Aaron said we decided not to?
idk I thought we said it would be too similar to the back design, BTW what are we doing with the back design now?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 08:47:43 PM
Since I don't think the backs will have signatures, can we please have signatures on the ace?
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 09:04:08 PM
Added the Aces Loldudex2 made and played with gradients. Any constructive critisism would be great :)
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 09:06:25 PM
Added the Aces Loldudex2 made and played with gradients. Any constructive critisism would be great :)
also Moon.exe or Derek whoever sees this first, could you try making it look plush please? I dont have the skills to do that :-[   


EDIT:
sorry for the second post I messed up modifying and clicked quote
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Post by: Evan on February 08, 2012, 10:19:32 PM
I like the Ace of Hearts a lot! The patch on it adds to it in a really cool way.
Did you try making it not 3D?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 10:49:37 PM
Here is my third king design. This is just a basic sketch, and before you shoot me, I want to tell you that I want the king to look very close to this. I want this to stick out from all the rest, and I feel this very basic design, with added background detail and with red indices, I feel this could look very cool.

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=KingStickFigure.jpg

And yes, I want this too look like a sketch on the final card, and I want it to kind of look like a crude drawing.
I have a vision for this, but I want to know what you think, and please, be honest.
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 10:58:40 PM
I like the Ace of Hearts a lot! The patch on it adds to it in a really cool way.
Did you try making it not 3D?
Thank you! :)  I also really like the patch. I will post a picture in a bit that it isnt 3D once I make some more changes to it :)  Also it is going to look plush-like when it is finished.
Here is my third king design. This is just a basic sketch, and before you shoot me, I want to tell you that I want the king to look very close to this. I want this to stick out from all the rest, and I feel this very basic design, with added background detail and with red indices, I feel this could look very cool.

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=KingStickFigure.jpg (http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=KingStickFigure.jpg)

And yes, I want this too look like a sketch on the final card, and I want it to kind of look like a crude drawing.
I have a vision for this, but I want to know what you think, and please, be honest.

I acctually really like that design I think you should add some legs on it though and it is something different that I think will look pretty cool on a card :)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 11:04:24 PM
I acctually really like that design I think you should add some legs on it though and it is something different that I think will look pretty cool on a card :)

Thanks. My plan is this is half of the card, and I was going to mirror it onto the other half. Obviously this is no where near being finished, and I will be trying out different things.
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 11:11:53 PM
I acctually really like that design I think you should add some legs on it though and it is something different that I think will look pretty cool on a card :)

Thanks. My plan is this is half of the card, and I was going to mirror it onto the other half. Obviously this is no where near being finished, and I will be trying out different things.
Sweet I dont think you should mirror that king though I think it would look better just one of them and just standing there. Maybe even put in a easy grass design and I think that would look cool :)
 
Here is a picture of me A of Hearts non-3D and the stick king mirrored.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
It's be mirrored across both the x and the y-axis if you get what I'm saying.
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 11:23:20 PM
ok here is something I threw together quick with you king :)   Sorry if you wanted to be exclusively working on it but I had an idea. (I realize you want it sketched but this is just a digitalization of it.
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Post by: Derek on February 08, 2012, 11:24:47 PM
NEW BACK DESIGN IDEA:

This is just an idea. It's expandable. i realize right now it's a one way back but I can change that if you guys like the idea.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/j5v5tt.png)
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 11:26:30 PM
NEW BACK DESIGN IDEA:

This is just an idea. It's expandable. i realize right now it's a one way back but I can change that if you guys like the idea.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/j5v5tt.png)
That acctually looks pretty sweet! I think you should turn the bottom half of the D`s so it is a 2-way design.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 08, 2012, 11:30:20 PM
ok here is something I threw together quick with you king :)   Sorry if you wanted to be exclusively working on it but I had an idea. (I realize you want it sketched but this is just a digitalization of it.

It looks good, but I think the legs might look weird when mirrored, but who knows. I will be trying all different things to see what looks best.
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2012, 11:31:53 PM
ok here is something I threw together quick with you king :)   Sorry if you wanted to be exclusively working on it but I had an idea. (I realize you want it sketched but this is just a digitalization of it.

It looks good, but I think the legs might look weird when mirrored, but who knows. I will be trying all different things to see what looks best.
Ya I just made it quick. anyway awesome designs you are making :)
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 08, 2012, 11:41:20 PM
That back design looks really nice! If you could make it a non-one-way back it would look even better. So switch the D's and work on have the spades not all point down; try to switch the direction in the middle. It's a good start though  :D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 12:12:16 AM
For the back design, I like it, but I think I actually preferred the other one better. If you decide to pick this one, maybe some of the spade symbol thingys could spell out discourse in red. Of course, I think this should be a 2 way design.
For the King, I really like it, and, not to bash on you, Aaron, but I prefer the version without the legs. I thin i would look really neat with it mirrored in 4 directions.
For the AoS, I think it should be done with our signatures, as originally planned.
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 09, 2012, 09:32:09 AM
NEW BACK DESIGN IDEA:

This is just an idea. It's expandable. i realize right now it's a one way back but I can change that if you guys like the idea.



If you reduce the number of spades per point to only four, or increase it to six, it would be easier to make a classy two-way design.


You can also consider including other suits, if they look good there.


If you make the points smaller, you can spell "DISCOURSE" vertically on each side edge, perhaps in a shade of deep red.


I have an idea for the Ace of Spades.  Make the actual big pip as plain as possible.  Write signatures all across the card.  When printing them on a white background, make them black, and when printing them on the black spade, change that part of the signature to white.  I think it would look really sweet.  Can you envision what I'm thinking of?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 09, 2012, 10:47:24 AM
@Don Boyer


I get what you're saying. It'd be like an inverse of the black and white, right?
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 09, 2012, 11:56:10 AM
@Don Boyer


I get what you're saying. It'd be like an inverse of the black and white, right?


Precisely.  When writing in the background, the lines of the signatures are black on a white surface.  When writing on the ace pip in the center, the lines of the signature are white on a black background.  The lines will transition as signatures overlap and move from the white through the black and back again.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 09, 2012, 01:31:28 PM
I think it sounds cool, but it might be a little hard on the eyes. We will need to see a mockup first.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 01:37:16 PM
@Don This is a great idea, but I think a black ace of spades may be too classic. Maybe white on dark blue? Navy? It would be nice to just try that out.
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Post by: Evan on February 09, 2012, 04:37:20 PM
NEW BACK DESIGN IDEA:

This is just an idea. It's expandable. i realize right now it's a one way back but I can change that if you guys like the idea.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/j5v5tt.png)
I think I'm in love with that design...    ???
It's sooo awesome! But I think you should try it mirrored to see how it looks.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 04:41:32 PM
@Aaron - What happened to the kinda 3D version of the AoH? I liked it better  :-[ LOL
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Post by: kensei777 on February 09, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
I have to admit, that back design is pretty sweet but I'm going to have to agree with Don here. If we're going to go with that design, you should work on the half line so we can have the D's both ways and reduce or add more spades to keep it even.


Another suggestion would be keep that layout and flip the other images, like an alternating pattern.
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Post by: Derek on February 09, 2012, 06:12:42 PM
Thanks for the input everyone! i knew it would need to be tweaked and I have some great ideas. I'm going to try to make it only made of 4 pips. This will make it easy for a 2 way back.
QUESTION: If it's 4 pips, should i make it look like a plus sign or an 'X'? I'll also make it small enough so I can spell DISCOURSE down each side. I think that would be awesome  :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 09, 2012, 06:21:31 PM
You should mak it look like an X.
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Post by: kensei777 on February 09, 2012, 06:43:09 PM
Gotta go with the X
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Post by: Derek on February 09, 2012, 07:09:32 PM
I didn't go with an X lol BUT i love it  ;D ;D ;D

(http://i44.tinypic.com/30li3y8.png)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 09, 2012, 07:30:35 PM
That looks amazing.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 09, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
 That looks totally WICKED SICK! i <3 it!!! That back design is really starting to pull together! This is really really nice! I have no qualms about it.
lets see...

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 09, 2012, 07:37:49 PM
Hey Derek,

I think the back looks great but the edges look like they need to be contained.
Also, what about throwing in a background color with a little Inner Glow and a subtle
stroke to beef it up a little?

I did a quick mockup on your lo res to illustrate what I'm referring to.

thanks, Randy

— I just noticed, if you do something like my mockup the pattern should probably extend a little
where there are current empty spots. Just a few more duplications on the sides, top and bottom would
do it!
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 09, 2012, 07:41:50 PM
I just realized my suggestion would make it be similar to the ORNATE face patterns!
Oh well, I'm cool with that.
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Post by: Evan on February 09, 2012, 07:42:57 PM
AAAH MY EYES!  :P
That looks awesome Randy! I can't tell if I like it in color or black and white better....
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 09, 2012, 07:50:44 PM
 The one in color is easy on the eyes, the one in black in white looks kinda like minimalis and clean and elegant. Which ever works for me.  Are we going with a thin border, standard border or no border?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 07:54:00 PM
The one in color is easy on the eyes, the one in black in white looks kinda like minimalis and clean and elegant. Which ever works for me.  Are we going with a thin border, standard border or no border?

@Krystle - I think we will have a thin border.
I think that the empty spaces on the sides should be filled in, in one way or another.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 09, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
 Yeah I thought so. Thin borders look amazing. I think the back design can sort of fade into the border.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 08:06:17 PM
Which back design do you, honestly prefer? The first one on page 16, the second one on page 16, Derek's one on this page, or Randy's version of it with the back design. Quite honestly, I prefer the ones on page 16. The reason for this is that I think they had a little touch of creativeness in that that is lacking in this version. I think there should be an extra something in this back design: the first design had the almost invisible Ds. The second version had the wave effect. What will this version have? I personally dont like Randy's background that much. I like the idea but not the color. I think we should have a subtle design behind, maybe (Ooh, i have a great idea) Maybe we could put a kind of Uncut Sheet showing all the faces of the cards in the deck. Also, I think that the "Discourse" in red should be running along the sides in the empty spaces.
@Derek - Can you please try doing ur design again with Discourse in red running along the sides in the empty spaces and an uncut sheet from any deck with custom court cards in the background?
I realize I am very critical but I think we should have a solid back design to even out the faces of the cards.
Finally, we need to make sure  we can see a D in the corner when fanning the cards.
Ty,
Nathan
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 08:07:45 PM
Yeah I thought so. Thin borders look amazing. I think the back design can sort of fade into the border.
I totally agree about the fading into the border part. That can allow us to have the Ds perfectly in the corner and the rest of the pip+ fading out around it. That way we can see the Ds when fanning the cards.
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Post by: Aaron on February 09, 2012, 08:16:04 PM
I acctually prefer the newer one. I think you should make a poll on it.
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Post by: kensei777 on February 09, 2012, 08:19:46 PM
Points noted but needs a comparison in order for us to be able to agree on one design. A poll at this point might be a bit unclear as people will end up switching pages to compare. I would suggest a poll once there is a sample image with all three designs that we can refer to.


@Derek - Screw the X, that looks awesome! Once you're done with your adjustment, can you do a side by side comparison image on all three designs so that we don't have to switch pages in order to compare with the others? Thanks man! Wonderful job! Keep it up!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
I acctually prefer the newer one. I think you should make a poll on it.
I dont think it is time for a poll yet since this design has not had its final word. I have nothing against this design, it is just that I think it needs some changes.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 08:23:47 PM
Points noted but needs a comparison in order for us to be able to agree on one design. A poll at this point might be a bit unclear as people will end up switching pages to compare. I would suggest a poll once there is a sample image with all three designs that we can refer to.


@Derek - Screw the X, that looks awesome! Once you're done with your adjustment, can you do a side by side comparison image on all three designs so that we don't have to switch pages in order to compare with the others? Thanks man! Wonderful job! Keep it up!
Once again, I will do that, but only once we will have tried the additions some of us have asked.
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Post by: Aaron on February 09, 2012, 08:26:30 PM
Here is a comparisson.


Also Nathan, you should combine your posts when saying stuff at one time.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 08:30:56 PM
Here is a comparisson.


Also Nathan, you should combine your posts when saying stuff at one time.
I do?
@Derek Can you try doing the same back design with any uncut sheet behind it. This can also make this a subtle one way design.
Also, can you add some more of those little + thingys in the empty spaces and make the bits that overlap on the border fade into white?
I really thought that your idea of adding a little something in the first designs was great. Can you try doing something similar for this design?
Ty,
Nathan
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Post by: Aaron on February 09, 2012, 08:35:27 PM
Here is a comparisson.


Also Nathan, you should combine your posts when saying stuff at one time.
I do?
@Derek Can you try doing the same back design with any uncut sheet behind it. This can also make this a subtle one way design.
Also, can you add some more of those little + thingys in the empty spaces and make the bits that overlap on the border fade into white?
I really thought that your idea of adding a little something in the first designs was great. Can you try doing something similar for this design?
Ty,
Nathan


Ok I just have noticed on that last post and a few other times that you post 2 comments within a couple minutes of eachother.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 08:38:37 PM
I usually do this because someone asks a question in between and I want to keep the order of the discussion the same as it happened so the reader isn't confused.
What is really disappointing for me to see is that about 5 of our artists are completely inactive on this thread and haven't given us any info about their progress yet :/  :-\
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 09, 2012, 08:59:12 PM
My favorite back design is the first one with the green D's. I really like the hidden D's aspect of it, and the color.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 09:09:14 PM
My favorite back design is the first one with the green D's. I really like the hidden D's aspect of it, and the color.
I agree with this.
Derek, if you have the time, can you try doing the first design again, except with the additional wavy design from the second back and keeping Discourse running down the sides and the almost invisible Ds?
This would really be appreciated.
I know I am asking you a lot, and I am sorry about this, it is just that the back design is very important.
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Post by: Evan on February 09, 2012, 09:15:40 PM
This is such a tough choice! I like the second and last best. But honestly, they're all awesome!
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Post by: Derek on February 09, 2012, 09:45:48 PM
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^ That's how I feel right now hahaha.

I just got about 10 different opinions and twice as many suggestions..

I love what Randy did to it, I think thinner borders with the +'s filling in the sides would be great.. I think my latest back is more elegant and better looking honestly.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 09, 2012, 10:04:38 PM
Hey Derek, I don't mean to put more stress and pressure on you, but I'm just wondering, how are the indices going. Not trying to rush you or hurry you, I'm just curious.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 10:06:40 PM
I understand how you feel and am sorry about that. I wanted to know if, in the next week or so, you would be able to make a couple changes to your backs, just for experimenting:
1) First of all, would you be able to take the first design, with the green back, and just make the Ds wavy, just like for the second design, while keeping everything else (the green, the "invisible" Ds, and the "Discourse" running down the sides of the back), the same?
2) Would you be able to change your last design, add +s so the only empty space on the card is between each +. Now, can you make all the pieces of +s that overlap fade into white borders? And finally, can you make each + slightly bigger so we can see a D in the corner when fanning the cards?
Thank you, Nathan
PS: I am going to get to work on the 10s.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 09, 2012, 10:48:15 PM
 Hey guys! I just posted a blog about this! Its password protected.
its

http://laranovales.wordpress.com/the-evolution-of-aetheria/ (http://laranovales.wordpress.com/the-evolution-of-aetheria/)

password:  aethercards
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 09, 2012, 10:55:01 PM
Hey guys! I just posted a blog about this! Its password protected.
its

http://laranovales.wordpress.com/the-evolution-of-aetheria/ (http://laranovales.wordpress.com/the-evolution-of-aetheria/)

password:  aethercards

Wow. This is very amazing, and thanks for organizing all of the photos in such a clean way, along with the quotes. Simply remarkable.
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Post by: Derek on February 09, 2012, 10:57:21 PM
I understand how you feel and am sorry about that. I wanted to know if, in the next week or so, you would be able to make a couple changes to your backs, just for experimenting:
1) First of all, would you be able to take the first design, with the green back, and just make the Ds wavy, just like for the second design, while keeping everything else (the green, the "invisible" Ds, and the "Discourse" running down the sides of the back), the same?
2) Would you be able to change your last design, add +s so the only empty space on the card is between each +. Now, can you make all the pieces of +s that overlap fade into white borders? And finally, can you make each + slightly bigger so we can see a D in the corner when fanning the cards?
Thank you, Nathan
PS: I am going to get to work on the 10s.

I'll work on doing the D's design, but for the + design, When you fan, you can't really see anything except a sliver. It doesn't really matter what's in the corner for the fan, just for the overall look of it.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 11:11:12 PM
Hey guys! I just posted a blog about this! Its password protected.
its

http://laranovales.wordpress.com/the-evolution-of-aetheria/ (http://laranovales.wordpress.com/the-evolution-of-aetheria/)

password:  aethercards

WOW! Once word: Amazing!
Could you also add some of the main points of criticism and appreciation as like subcategories? So that we could like click on a button below each picture and see the weaknesses and strengths. It’s a lot of work but it could help us sort through what we like and what we don’t like.
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Post by: Derek on February 09, 2012, 11:27:29 PM
I really like the look of this...

(http://i41.tinypic.com/eun583.png)
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 11:27:49 PM
Here is what I was thinking of for the ace of spades. I spent about 1 min on it using Pages. I think the names could be typed out in whatever font we would like (each a different font), obviously in much smaller, and with your names instead of mine. What do you think about this? I think it would be simpler than all writing and scanning our names, all being in different sizes and colors and stuff.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 09, 2012, 11:30:24 PM
Here is what I was thinking of for the ace of spades. I spent about 1 min on it using Pages. I think the names could be typed out in whatever font we would like (each a different font), obviously in much smaller, and with your names instead of mine. What do you think about this? I think it would be simpler than all writing and scanning our names, all being in different sizes and colors and stuff.
I dunno, it seems to simple to me. I'd MUCH rather puzzle piece all of the signatures together into the ace.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 11:32:19 PM
I really like the look of this...

(http://i41.tinypic.com/eun583.png)
I like it but can you please try moving everything to the left a bit to that the red Ds are exactly in the corner and much closer to it too? I would love to show you wat is was thinking for this deck, but I cant because I don't have your draft. What I was thinking is adding a column of +s so the Ds are perfectly in the corner. I would love to see how that would look, especially in a fan! I love the fact that the red discourse is barely visible!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 11:33:29 PM
Here is what I was thinking of for the ace of spades. I spent about 1 min on it using Pages. I think the names could be typed out in whatever font we would like (each a different font), obviously in much smaller, and with your names instead of mine. What do you think about this? I think it would be simpler than all writing and scanning our names, all being in different sizes and colors and stuff.
I dunno, it seems to simple to me. I'd MUCH rather puzzle piece all of the signatures together into the ace.
Yes, the point was for it to be like a puzzle with our signatures. The only difference is that I would like it typed out in a stylish way for each of us. + I don't know if I would be able to scan my signature because I dont have a scanner at home.
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Post by: Derek on February 09, 2012, 11:40:33 PM
Our own signatures would not only look better IMO, but it would be more original and personal. You don't have to scan it, you can literally take a pic with your cell phone and ill be able to edit it.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 11:56:26 PM
Ok. You have convinced me :D Should it be just my name or can it by any signature I would like?
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Post by: Derek on February 10, 2012, 12:23:33 AM
I think it should be a signature, no matter how crazy or unreadable. It'll be recognizable by us and the signee, which is most important and it would looked cool  :D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 12:41:23 AM
Ok. I think they should all take up about as much space, although some might be square, and others rectangular. I will send you mine tomorrow. As for now, imma go to bed.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 10, 2012, 01:20:16 AM
I really like the look of this...

(http://i41.tinypic.com/eun583.png)

Very nice!!

Great job Derek!
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Post by: Aaron on February 10, 2012, 01:22:27 AM
I really like the look of this...

(http://i41.tinypic.com/eun583.png)
I think we should go with that. It is so nice and I realy like it!
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Post by: xela on February 10, 2012, 01:58:24 AM
Stopping by to say that back design is gorgeous. I'll see if I can call in a favor and maybe enable you guys to do a 1k run of these cards.
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Post by: Frost on February 10, 2012, 02:04:46 AM
The back design is cool really nice u guys should use that back design , just my opinion .
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Post by: moonexe on February 10, 2012, 02:13:58 AM
I'm in love with the new back design. Let's keep the stinger borders, they look amazing. ;D
And Aaron, are you done with the ace or should I wait a little longer? :P
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 10, 2012, 02:24:58 AM
Stopping by to say that back design is gorgeous. I'll see if I can call in a favor and maybe enable you guys to do a 1k run of these cards.

 I know right! Its really nice! The design has come a log way fro its humble origins. ^_^ oh in case you missed the link here is my blog post about the Discourse deck.

The Evolution of Aetheria (http://laranovales.wordpress.com/the-evolution-of-aetheria/)

Its password protected the password is

password:  aethercards

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Post by: Curt on February 10, 2012, 03:00:58 AM
Thanks for that blog post Lara, your guys progression on this deck has been insane! It is awesome to see everyone working together to create something amazing. The back design right now is beautiful and I can only expect everything to get better from here.

Nice work guys!
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 10, 2012, 05:06:35 AM
That new back design is gorgeous!! I really like it. I think that with a few minor tweeks the back design could be all finished.

@Lara that blog was awesome! It was nice to be able to see all the pictures in one place! Thanks for putting that together.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 10, 2012, 09:02:13 AM
Thanks for that blog post Lara, your guys progression on this deck has been insane! It is awesome to see everyone working together to create something amazing. The back design right now is beautiful and I can only expect everything to get better from here.

Nice work guys!
That new back design is gorgeous!! I really like it. I think that with a few minor tweeks the back design could be all finished.

@Lara that blog was awesome! It was nice to be able to see all the pictures in one place! Thanks for putting that together.

 you guys are very much welcome. I just go really tired of trying to look for the other artwork in all 30 pages of replies and I was pretty sure that I was not the only one who felt this way. So that is why i also decided to compile everything there. I just password protected it in case some of the members does not with to reveal their work out in public just yet.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 10:38:12 AM
I really like the way this is moving, but, when you have the time, Derek, can you please try adding a row of +s so the Ds from discourse en up perfectly in the top left and bottom right corner?
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Post by: K on February 10, 2012, 11:23:42 AM
Stopping by to say that back design is gorgeous. I'll see if I can call in a favor and maybe enable you guys to do a 1k run of these cards.

 I know right! Its really nice! The design has come a log way fro its humble origins. ^_^ oh in case you missed the link here is my blog post about the Discourse deck.

The Evolution of Aetheria (http://laranovales.wordpress.com/the-evolution-of-aetheria/)

Its password protected the password is

password:  aethercards




thanks for compiling everything for our convenience! :D It was by luck I found this post as well  :P  wish I could help out with the designs, I could only do fonts if you guys want, I'll try to do it after my exams, here an example I did a couple of years back haha. I can't draw to save myself though..  :-[

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f7BkfyWTSlU/TzVEK4Doh9I/AAAAAAAAAJw/MCjPXTSqFbs/s1600/IMG_0023.JPG

btw, anyone could guess what was it used for?  :P

oh and, don't mind tilting your head abit, sorry.. x-x
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
Stopping by to say that back design is gorgeous. I'll see if I can call in a favor and maybe enable you guys to do a 1k run of these cards.

 I know right! Its really nice! The design has come a log way fro its humble origins. ^_^ oh in case you missed the link here is my blog post about the Discourse deck.

The Evolution of Aetheria (http://laranovales.wordpress.com/the-evolution-of-aetheria/)

Its password protected the password is

password:  aethercards


That looks pretty nice! But I don't know how you could help us with fonts :/


thanks for compiling everything for our convenience! :D It was by luck I found this post as well  :P  wish I could help out with the designs, I could only do fonts if you guys want, I'll try to do it after my exams, here an example I did a couple of years back haha. I can't draw to save myself though..  :-[

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f7BkfyWTSlU/TzVEK4Doh9I/AAAAAAAAAJw/MCjPXTSqFbs/s1600/IMG_0023.JPG (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f7BkfyWTSlU/TzVEK4Doh9I/AAAAAAAAAJw/MCjPXTSqFbs/s1600/IMG_0023.JPG)

btw, anyone could guess what was it used for?  :P

oh and, don't mind tilting your head abit, sorry.. x-x
I like it a lot, unfortunately, I don't know which fonts you could help us with. :( maybe the ones on the box...
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 12:25:02 PM
Here are rough drafts for all four of my tens. I'm not extremely proud of them, I have to admit. Please give me feedback!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Derek on February 10, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
@Nathan: I like the ideas, I still don't know if the second ten should be completely blurry? Also, are you trying to make some of your faces black and some white? Kind of like a reverse Artifice v1?

Also, here is a revision of my back - the D's can be switched to make it a two way back. For all you 'subtle one-way' back lovers, the red D in the middle makes it a subtle one way.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/osgwv5.png)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 01:11:56 PM
For your question, yes, I am.
I really like that back, Derek! Can you just try moving the +s around so the red D is exactly in the corner. Please? Pretty please? I just think that it would just look so much nicer when fanning the cards. Other than that, I think it is perfect!
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Post by: Derek on February 10, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
@Nathan: Idk if you've ever designed in photoshop, but I can't just move them into the corners. They're a certain size and to keep it uniform, I have to have them there. Unless I stretch them which would look odd  ::) I'll see what I can do, but it's not simple..
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 10, 2012, 01:33:09 PM
@Nathan: Idk if you've ever designed in photoshop, but I can't just move them into the corners. They're a certain size and to keep it uniform, I have to have them there. Unless I stretch them which would look odd  ::) I'll see what I can do, but it's not simple..

I agree with Derek, trying to force the D's into the top of the corners could really change and potentially screw up the pattern. NathanCanada, the row next to the DISCOURSE row is where it sounds like you want the word spelled out but that row has space for 10 letters, not the 9 nine letters needed to spell out DISCOURSE. That wouldn't look good with an extra Black D after the Red spelled out word.

thanks, Randy
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
@Nathan: Idk if you've ever designed in photoshop, but I can't just move them into the corners. They're a certain size and to keep it uniform, I have to have them there. Unless I stretch them which would look odd  ::) I'll see what I can do, but it's not simple..
What I meant was for you to add an additional row for them to be closer to the corners.
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Post by: Derek on February 10, 2012, 01:49:29 PM
@Nathan: Idk if you've ever designed in photoshop, but I can't just move them into the corners. They're a certain size and to keep it uniform, I have to have them there. Unless I stretch them which would look odd  ::) I'll see what I can do, but it's not simple..
What I meant was for you to add an additional row for them to be closer to the corners.

Adding an extra row would make it 10 going down? That would mean the diamond couldn't be in the middle because there needs to be an odd number of rows. If that makes sense..
And also a row on the sides which would make it impossible to have the diamond in the middle.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
Maybe you could make the diamonds each a bit smaller. Idk, but I am sure that having the D in the corner would be completely worth it!
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Post by: Derek on February 10, 2012, 01:53:28 PM
Maybe you could make the diamonds each a bit smaller. Idk, but I am sure that having the D in the corner would be completely worth it!

Haha, idk if it's that big of a deal honestly. As long as it's symmetrical I think it'll look good  ::)
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 01:58:43 PM
Maybe you could make the diamonds each a bit smaller. Idk, but I am sure that having the D in the corner would be completely worth it!

Haha, idk if it's that big of a deal honestly. As long as it's symmetrical I think it'll look good  ::)
Well, ok. But if you have time, can you just try? Because I really would like it to look nice in fans with Discourse running along the sides of the cards.
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Post by: Derek on February 10, 2012, 02:01:39 PM
Maybe you could make the diamonds each a bit smaller. Idk, but I am sure that having the D in the corner would be completely worth it!

Haha, idk if it's that big of a deal honestly. As long as it's symmetrical I think it'll look good  ::)
Well, ok. But if you have time, can you just try? Because I really would like it to look nice in fans with Discourse running along the sides of the cards.

I can try, but if you go pick up any deck of cards with a border, and do a good fan with the backs... you can only see a very slight sliver of the back. there's no way if i put the D in the corner that you would be able to see more than D - I - maybe S.....
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 02:05:47 PM
I realize that. I just thought it would look neater if the D was in the corner, just like the angel on normal Bikes, so it is the first think we see when fanning cards. But then, seeing the word continues, with an I and an S, people r going to be curious and read the whole word, Discourse. :D
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Post by: Evan on February 10, 2012, 03:05:57 PM
@Nathan: I like the ideas, I still don't know if the second ten should be completely blurry? Also, are you trying to make some of your faces black and some white? Kind of like a reverse Artifice v1?

Also, here is a revision of my back - the D's can be switched to make it a two way back. For all you 'subtle one-way' back lovers, the red D in the middle makes it a subtle one way.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/osgwv5.png)
Thats my favorite design so far! But maybe instead of having that black part, you could make 2 D's in black?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 03:18:44 PM
@Nathan: I like the ideas, I still don't know if the second ten should be completely blurry? Also, are you trying to make some of your faces black and some white? Kind of like a reverse Artifice v1?

Also, here is a revision of my back - the D's can be switched to make it a two way back. For all you 'subtle one-way' back lovers, the red D in the middle makes it a subtle one way.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/osgwv5.png)
Thats my favorite design so far! But maybe instead of having that black part, you could make 2 D's in black?
Hahaha, I thought the same exact thing, but then I thought that it might be too similar to D&D's cards. We have a saying in French: "Les grands esprits se rencontrent", meaning, in a more poetic way, "great minds meet up/think the same way".
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 03:20:04 PM
@Derek - Two things:
1) Should I change the poll?
2) Can you try, if you have time, photoshoping this back design into a fan?
Thank you,
Nathan
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 10, 2012, 05:28:31 PM
@Nathan, the ten of diamonds is awesome looking!! I really like that design. I think that the ten of spades should get more blurry the closer to the center of the card, that way you can better read the number ten in the corners. Just some advice.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
@Nathan, the ten of diamonds is awesome looking!! I really like that design. I think that the ten of spades should get more blurry the closer to the center of the card, that way you can better read the number ten in the corners. Just some advice.
Thank you for the ten of diamonds. As for the ten of spades, actually, those indexes wont be the final ones, as I will be using loldudex2's. Which is why I didn't bother making them clear.
Can you give me some feedback on the other ones, too, please? I dont really like the ten of hearts......... And how about you, how are your designs going along?
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 10, 2012, 05:48:08 PM
The other two look alright. I'm not a huge fan but that's just because of personal taste. They are still good designs.

I actually am not designing any cards anymore. I posted about that a while ago. I've just been too busy with school and work and because of that I had to drop out. It was sad but I'm glad that I can still pop in and give some feedback and advice! You all are doing an amazing job on this deck!!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 05:51:47 PM
The other two look alright. I'm not a huge fan but that's just because of personal taste. They are still good designs.

I actually am not designing any cards anymore. I posted about that a while ago. I've just been too busy with school and work and because of that I had to drop out. It was sad but I'm glad that I can still pop in and give some feedback and advice! You all are doing an amazing job on this deck!!
Oh bummer, we would have liked to have you with us... :(
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 10, 2012, 05:57:44 PM
Here are rough drafts for all four of my tens. I'm not extremely proud of them, I have to admit. Please give me feedback!

I love the black ten of clubs, but I feel you won't be able to read the black indices.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 10, 2012, 06:01:34 PM
Well, I had the same concern, but, since we will be using your indices, those won't be black.
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Post by: Derek on February 10, 2012, 11:26:58 PM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/11qhely.png)
 :D I finished
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Post by: Evan on February 10, 2012, 11:37:32 PM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/11qhely.png)
 :D I finished
Beautiful! They look really cool! But I just think the Q is a little weird looking. Looks like an odd 2...
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Post by: Derek on February 10, 2012, 11:51:16 PM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/11qhely.png)
 :D I finished
Beautiful! They look really cool! But I just think the Q is a little weird looking. Looks like an odd 2...

Yeah I know what you're saying. I'll try to make it look more Queenish but widening the circle part and making the point closer.
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Post by: walther on February 11, 2012, 12:33:54 AM
Yeah I know what you're saying. I'll try to make it look more Queenish but widening the circle part and making the point closer.
What about taking the 9 and opening it up to make more of an O and then just create the Q by adding a a tail crossing the lower quadrant like the A. If that makes any sense at all.

I noticed that the inner black diamond formation has exactly enough spots to spell discourse twice, or the middle ring exactly once. Just an observation  :)
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 11, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Nice one, Derek! I think that for the index pips (hearts, spades, diamonds, clubs), you shouldn't fill them in as they look amazing not-filled, and I think this can create a variation between the two. Also, I don't know if you have noticed (yes, I am nit-picky), but your 4, 5, and 6 aren't the same color as the others. I like the other color better. Can you please change them back? As for the queen, I think the left end of the line should go even closer to the loop.
@Walther - I understand what you mean, but I don't know if it would fit the theme, and, also, the idea was to keep loldudex2's pips exactly the way they are except for the color.
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Post by: Aaron on February 11, 2012, 01:40:57 AM
I'm in love with the new back design. Let's keep the stinger borders, they look amazing. ;D
And Aaron, are you done with the ace or should I wait a little longer? :P
I`m pretty much done it so you can start :)  Thank you!!
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Post by: Derek on February 11, 2012, 02:31:21 AM
I'm fairly certain that my numbers have no colors in them at all? Am I the only one who sees no color? Haha..
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 11, 2012, 06:56:41 AM
I usually do this because someone asks a question in between and I want to keep the order of the discussion the same as it happened so the reader isn't confused.
What is really disappointing for me to see is that about 5 of our artists are completely inactive on this thread and haven't given us any info about their progress yet :/  :-\

When the deadline hits, just axe them - there are others either wanting in on the work or wanting to take on extra.

Still catching up on the reading - you folks are WAY TOO PROLIFIC...  :))
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Post by: xela on February 11, 2012, 07:20:11 AM
I haven't been reading all the posts, but just to make sure, you guys are all developing via CMYK right? If not, simply switch your mode in Photoshop (Image>Mode>CMYK). If you switch, it may mess up some of the colors, but that's an easy fix. Make sure you opt out of flattening the image.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 11, 2012, 09:02:26 AM
I haven't been reading all the posts, but just to make sure, you guys are all developing via CMYK right? If not, simply switch your mode in Photoshop (Image>Mode>CMYK). If you switch, it may mess up some of the colors, but that's an easy fix. Make sure you opt out of flattening the image.

Ditto! Also, are you guys making sure to build your files with a resolution of at least 300 dpi? If Moon.exe is taking over Aaron's Ace of Hearts to make it look more plush, hopefully it's with the original CMYK hi res file!

thanks,
Randy
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 11, 2012, 11:45:14 AM
@Derek - The indexes aren't different colors, they're just different shades of black. If you play around with your screen a bit, you should be able to see them.
I don't know about the others, but I am using CMYK and 650 dpi.
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 11, 2012, 02:52:53 PM
I noticed that my name is still on the list. I mentioned twice that I couldn't help any longer because of time restraints with school and work and studies  :( It's a bummer to not be apart of such an amazing project, but you all deserve the best. I'm going to have fun following this one though every step of the way and giving my feedback when you need it!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 11, 2012, 03:05:58 PM
I noticed that my name is still on the list. I mentioned twice that I couldn't help any longer because of time restraints with school and work and studies  :( It's a bummer to not be apart of such an amazing project, but you all deserve the best. I'm going to have fun following this one though every step of the way and giving my feedback when you need it!
Ok. You will be in the credits but I will remove you from the list next time I have time to post it. WE HAVE AN EMPTY SPACE!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 11, 2012, 07:13:21 PM
 ***Realizing I have to update the blog post on this. Will do it later though. I'm busy updating photo blogs and a shit load of others ^_^.***
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 11, 2012, 09:51:11 PM
***Realizing I have to update the blog post on this. Will do it later though. I'm busy updating photo blogs and a shit load of others ^_^.***
Haha. I think today has been the least productive day since the start of this project!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 11, 2012, 09:55:05 PM
Yah it does. Although I am trying to add detail for the kings.
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 12, 2012, 04:54:35 AM
@Nathan: I like the ideas, I still don't know if the second ten should be completely blurry? Also, are you trying to make some of your faces black and some white? Kind of like a reverse Artifice v1?

Also, here is a revision of my back - the D's can be switched to make it a two way back. For all you 'subtle one-way' back lovers, the red D in the middle makes it a subtle one way.


A one-way mark in the center of a card usually isn't subtle - it's noticeable.  I had someone spot the one-way on the Bicycle XXX deck seconds after they looked at it.  My suggestion: a truly subtle one way, or none at all.  Make the center "D" into a red dot, black dot, infinity symbol, four-pointed star, etc. and you can make this a true two-way deck.

For your question, yes, I am.
I really like that back, Derek! Can you just try moving the +s around so the red D is exactly in the corner. Please? Pretty please? I just think that it would just look so much nicer when fanning the cards. Other than that, I think it is perfect!

I agree on the red D's being pushed as far to the corners as possible.  Stretch the image a few percentage points while maintaining the "stinger-style" border.  Stretch the length in proportion to the width and the "structural integrity" of the image itself should not be too badly affected, especially since we're not talking about a huge change.  If width stretching becomes and issue, see what removing or adding some of the vertical or horizontal center lines of crosses does.  If the extra black "D" at the bottom is an issue when spelling DISCOURSE, just make it a black dot or something, or invert the bottom "D".

Pushing the red "D"s as far into the corner as possible gives you the opportunity to make some sweet-looking fans with this back design.

Regarding your 10's, Nathan, remember we're aiming for usability with the deck - having some cards print to the bleed and others not creates the problem of the bleed cards being distinctive in a squared-up deck to the point that you can point them out.  Since we're going with a white-bordered back and we want back and front to match, we should stick with a white-bordered front.  White works better I think, since everyone knows how quickly the edges of a black card get ruined with simple shuffling.


 :D I finished
Beautiful! They look really cool! But I just think the Q is a little weird looking. Looks like an odd 2...

Yeah I know what you're saying. I'll try to make it look more Queenish but widening the circle part and making the point closer.

 Actually, you're still missing the "1" and "0" to make 10.
 
 To improve the Q, try making a nearly-closed circle, with the gap where the line crosses the circle.  The line won't actually touch the circle and the design will be in line with what you're doing with the rest of the characters.
 

I'm really very impressed with how this entire group project is pulling together.  I've seen many similar projects simply get torn apart at the seams due to conflicting visions and egos, but you people are keeping it together and making something worthwhile out of it.  It's a real accomplishment.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 12, 2012, 11:02:36 AM
Yes, there will be white borders on all of my tens. I just don't know how to add them. For the tens, does any one have feedback on how to make them better? I like my ten of diamonds but im not a huge fan of the other ones.
And thank you Don for explaining more clearly what I would like for the back design. You give great advice!
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Post by: sinsandman on February 12, 2012, 05:53:26 PM
Holy Crap! How did I miss this. What needs to be done still? let me know how I can help 8)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 12, 2012, 08:53:47 PM
Holy Crap! How did I miss this. What needs to be done still? let me know how I can help 8)
The jacks are still open if you'd like, since brown-baggs needed to leave this project.

Also, I can't believe that we all missed that I forgot to draw a 10   :-\

 I will get on that now  :-X
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 12, 2012, 09:24:57 PM
The following people have not posted on this thread since their original post showing their interest in being a part of this project:
- zaganh
- IAmTheChin
- chdmagicdude
- Austin
- hazofhorsham
- John
If you're name is listed above and you do not post regarding this deck by Valentines day (in 2 days!), February 14th, at 12PM PST (time in California) you are out of the project for an indefinite amount of time.

The following people have not shown any of the work they have done on their selected cards:
- Moon.exe
- chdmagicdude
- IAmTheChin
- RandyButterfield
- Austin
- hazofhorsham
- John
You have until Sunday 26th of February at 12PM PST (time in California) to post a rough draft of at least one of you selected cards. If you do not, you are out of this project for an indefinite amount of time.
As for all of us, including me, many who already showed their progress, and all those stated above, we have until March 4th at 12PM PST (time in California).
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 12, 2012, 09:30:02 PM
√ = draft shown
_____________??????????????? = design progress needed urgently!
Indexes - Loldudex2 and Derek - Finished √
Back Design - Derek √√√√
Ace of spades - Derek √
Ace of hearts - Aaron √
Ace of diamonds - zaganh _______________??????????????????
Ace of clubs - Robert Butler's club design idea √√
Kings - Loldudex2 √√√
Queens - Moon.exe ________________???????????
Jacks - sinsandman __________________???????????????
Tens - Nathan √√√√
Nines - IAmTheChin _________________?????????????
Eights - chdmagicdude __________________????????????????
Sevens - Kensei777 √
Sixes - RandyButterfield ________________??????????????
Fives (pick two) - Austin _______________?????????????
Fives (the other two) - hazofhorsham ________________?????????????
Fours - John _______________________?????????????????
Threes - RobertButler
Twos - KrystleLane √√√
Single-faced ad card - Alex
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
We are missing a few drafts and a few artists. Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one on anyone! Let's keep up the work!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 12, 2012, 09:59:16 PM
Well hereis the 10 and a better Q

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndiceTenAndQueen.jpg
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 12, 2012, 10:23:37 PM
Well hereis the 10 and a better Q

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndiceTenAndQueen.jpg (http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndiceTenAndQueen.jpg)
I like them a lot!
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Post by: Aaron on February 12, 2012, 10:29:05 PM
Nice Q and 10!


Here is a little something I made up. As more designs are completed  will add to it. I didn`t know where the kings went so i just threw them in wherever. If I missed anyones design tell me.
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Post by: Evan on February 12, 2012, 10:29:49 PM
Well hereis the 10 and a better Q

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndiceTenAndQueen.jpg
I like the 10 a lot! It looks great! But the Q looks like a weird 2..
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Post by: Evan on February 12, 2012, 10:31:15 PM
Nice Q and 10!


Here is a little something I made up. As more designs are completed  will add to it. I didn`t know where the kings went so i just threw them in wherever. If I missed anyones design tell me.
Good idea! Nice job everyone! Looks great so far!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 12, 2012, 10:33:48 PM
First off, great picture, but all of my kings will be mirrored like a normal court card.


Well hereis the 10 and a better Q

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndiceTenAndQueen.jpg
I like the 10 a lot! It looks great! But the Q looks like a weird 2..

Thanks! I know what you mean about the Q, but I feel when it is on the court-card, and you visually see a queen, you wont think that at all. You know what I'm saying?
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 12, 2012, 10:34:59 PM
Nice Q and 10!


Here is a little something I made up. As more designs are completed  will add to it. I didn`t know where the kings went so i just threw them in wherever. If I missed anyones design tell me.

Oh thanks for the visual!! It looks really good. Lots of awesome progress being made  :D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 12, 2012, 10:39:41 PM
Nice Q and 10!


Here is a little something I made up. As more designs are completed  will add to it. I didn`t know where the kings went so i just threw them in wherever. If I missed anyones design tell me.
I had thought of doing this myself, but didn't know how. Nice job with this!!!!! :D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 12, 2012, 10:40:50 PM
First off, great picture, but all of my kings will be mirrored like a normal court card.


Well hereis the 10 and a better Q

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndiceTenAndQueen.jpg (http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndiceTenAndQueen.jpg)
I like the 10 a lot! It looks great! But the Q looks like a weird 2..
Yes, I also thought you'd better mirror your kings!

Thanks! I know what you mean about the Q, but I feel when it is on the court-card, and you visually see a queen, you wont think that at all. You know what I'm saying?
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 12, 2012, 10:47:28 PM
Here's my SIX of Spades.
I left the corners blank for the Indices and Corner PIPS.

thanks, Randy

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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 12, 2012, 10:54:35 PM
Here's my SIX of Spades.
I left the corners blank for the Indices and Corner PIPS.

thanks, Randy
Holy moley! That is amazing! Very original. I have a couple of questions:
1) Would you be able to make the colors in the 6 pop out even more so we can differentiate this number from the others next to it?
2) are the holes in the corners for loldudex2 and Derek's pips and indexes?
3) How come there are only 5 spades at the bottom
Wow. Extremely great job!
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 12, 2012, 10:59:41 PM
Here's my SIX of Spades.
I left the corners blank for the Indices and Corner PIPS.

thanks, Randy
Holy moley! That is amazing! Very original. I have a couple of questions:
1) Would you be able to make the colors in the 6 pop out even more so we can differentiate this number from the others next to it?
2) are the holes in the corners for loldudex2 and Derek's pips and indexes?
3) How come there are only 5 spades at the bottom
Wow. Extremely great job!

Nathan, I played with a few variations of making the 6 pop and the way I have it now was the classiest and does a good job of contrasting from the other numbers with the outer strokes and it's bevelled surface.

Yep, the holes in the corners are for the pips and indexes. I'm assuming that once everyone is done with their cards they would send the hi res files to Derek and he would add the corner elements so they're consistent throughout.

There are actually Six Spades now. The sixth spade is in the bottom left corner, rotated 180 degrees.

thanks, Randy
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 12, 2012, 11:15:29 PM
Ok. You are probably right. As for the spades, apparently, I do not know how to count! Once again! Wow. I feel really ashamed  ??? Sry about that! Nice job, can't wait to see your other sixes!
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Post by: Derek on February 12, 2012, 11:59:03 PM
Wow Randy, way to outshine everybody haha. Looks beautiful!!!
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Post by: Aaron on February 13, 2012, 12:07:09 AM
Holy Crap that is amazing Randy! I love it! Imagine a whole deck in that theme with a Vegas themed back design.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 13, 2012, 12:15:54 AM
Holy Crap that is amazing Randy! I love it! Imagine a whole deck in that theme with a Vegas themed back design.
I know right?! I thought the exact same thing! Left me (almost) speechless! This will be a great variation to all the other faces!
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 13, 2012, 03:18:56 AM

And thank you Don for explaining more clearly what I would like for the back design. You give great advice!

I'm glad I could be of help, considering I have no artistic talent whatsoever...  :))

Well hereis the 10 and a better Q

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndiceTenAndQueen.jpg (http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=IndiceTenAndQueen.jpg)

I read the other comments about the Q and I still think it's the bastard child of a 2 and a cursive Q.  Look at the attachment below - I lack any art talent, but that's the general concept I was thinking of.  What do you think?

Here's my SIX of Spades.
I left the corners blank for the Indices and Corner PIPS.

thanks, Randy

Wow - that's freakin' awesome.  Totally gorgeous representation of a six of spades.

Guys, Randy just RAISED THE BAR VERY, VERY HIGH for everyone submitting to this deck!  I'm not saying to imitate him, but to produce work that looks that beautiful.
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Post by: K on February 13, 2012, 04:56:26 AM
Wow, Randy's six of spades (EDIT) look really amazing! love the twos and the ace of diamonds! can't wait to see the final outcome of this deck  ;D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 13, 2012, 09:27:02 AM
Wow, Randy's six of clubs look really amazing! love the twos and the ace of diamonds! can't wait to see the final outcome of this deck  ;D
It's actually a six of spades lol. @Don thx for the advice. I also think that that queen would look better!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 13, 2012, 10:58:20 AM
I am currently working the queen. I will upload it when I get home.
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Post by: K on February 13, 2012, 11:50:19 AM
Wow, Randy's six of clubs look really amazing! love the twos and the ace of diamonds! can't wait to see the final outcome of this deck  ;D
It's actually a six of spades lol. @Don thx for the advice. I also think that that queen would look better!


lol, what is wrong with my mind back then...... may I ask is this deck gonna be a rainbow deck of some sort? i saw the tens, some had black background and some had white..
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 13, 2012, 03:03:55 PM
Wow, Randy's six of clubs look really amazing! love the twos and the ace of diamonds! can't wait to see the final outcome of this deck  ;D
It's actually a six of spades lol. @Don thx for the advice. I also think that that queen would look better!


lol, what is wrong with my mind back then...... may I ask is this deck gonna be a rainbow deck of some sort? i saw the tens, some had black background and some had white..
All backs will be the same, so will all the borders (same size and color) and the index pips, but the rest will be as different as we wish it to be!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 13, 2012, 03:54:59 PM
I have just sketche the Q! The photo shall be uploaded tonight.
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Post by: TheDiamondKing23 on February 13, 2012, 07:02:50 PM
i could try to help?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 13, 2012, 07:27:13 PM
One more day to comment before 5 people are kicked from the project!!!!!!!!!  :-\ :-[
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 13, 2012, 07:34:08 PM
One more day to comment before 5 people are kicked from the project!!!!!!!!!  :-\ :-[

I think you should give Chin a little longer since his hands are currently full with Seasons. Also, he got on this project much later then everyone else.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 13, 2012, 07:43:14 PM
One more day to comment before 5 people are kicked from the project!!!!!!!!!  :-\ :-[

I think you should give Chin a little longer since his hands are currently full with Seasons. Also, he got on this project much later then everyone else.
These 5 people will be kicked only if they don't comment on this thread by tomorrow. I gave them many warnings. However, since the Chin commented once since his original comment showing his interest in being a part of this project, he is in, unless he doesn't show a design by 2 weeks from today.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 13, 2012, 09:49:32 PM
Here is the Queen indice:

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg

I really enjoy it, and thanks for telling me to change it *Cough* Don *Cough*
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 13, 2012, 09:56:40 PM
Here is the Queen indice:

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg

I really enjoy it, and thanks for telling me to change it *Cough* Don *Cough*

That looks great!! Nice work Levi!
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Post by: Evan on February 13, 2012, 09:57:43 PM
Here is the Queen indice:

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg

I really enjoy it, and thanks for telling me to change it *Cough* Don *Cough*
OOH I like it a lot more! Your really good at creating indices!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 13, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
Here is the Queen indice:

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg

I really enjoy it, and thanks for telling me to change it *Cough* Don *Cough*
OOH I like it a lot more! Your really good at creating indices!

Thanks. I don't know why, but I always like drawing and making different fonts. I will try to make a better K and A tonight since I'm not too pleased about them.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 13, 2012, 10:20:48 PM
Here is the Queen indice:

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg (http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg)

I really enjoy it, and thanks for telling me to change it *Cough* Don *Cough*
OOH I like it a lot more! Your really good at creating indices!

Thanks. I don't know why, but I always like drawing and making different fonts. I will try to make a better K and A tonight since I'm not too pleased about them.
Idk why, but, no offense, I don't LOVE this indice, although I have to admit that it is pretty creative!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 13, 2012, 10:27:32 PM
Here is the Queen indice:

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg (http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg)

I really enjoy it, and thanks for telling me to change it *Cough* Don *Cough*
OOH I like it a lot more! Your really good at creating indices!

Thanks. I don't know why, but I always like drawing and making different fonts. I will try to make a better K and A tonight since I'm not too pleased about them.
Idk why, but, no offense, I don't LOVE this indice, although I have to admit that it is pretty creative!

I know what you mean. Although I like my original design a lot, The majority wanted a change so I decided it would benefit us all as a whole.
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 13, 2012, 10:29:13 PM
I think all the ones I have seen so far look really good Loldude!! Hopefully whatever you changes you make only make the design better. You're on a roll with them!!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 13, 2012, 10:31:16 PM
I think all the ones I have seen so far look really good Loldude!! Hopefully whatever you changes you make only make the design better. You're on a roll with them!!

Thanks a lot man. If and when I make any design changes I will make sure it it put up to majority vote to see which one is better.
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Post by: kensei777 on February 14, 2012, 12:38:56 AM
Hey guys! Sorry I haven't been posting, work has been creeping up to me lately. Good job everyone and specially Randy, that 6 is a killer! Mine is still a work-in-progress but I should have a couple uploaded by the week end. Keep it up!
 :D
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 14, 2012, 12:54:11 AM
Here is the Queen indice:

http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg (http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/loldudex2/?action=view&current=QueenIndice.jpg)

I really enjoy it, and thanks for telling me to change it *Cough* Don *Cough*

Hey, no problem.  I'm glad you liked it.  It seemed to fit better with your "gap in the shape" design asthetic.

If you wanted to have only one gap in the Q, simply attach the "tail" to either side of the opening.  I like it either way; your Q looks good.

I think all the ones I have seen so far look really good Loldude!! Hopefully whatever you changes you make only make the design better. You're on a roll with them!!

Thanks a lot man. If and when I make any design changes I will make sure it it put up to majority vote to see which one is better.

I beg of you, DON'T!  It's your baby, run with it.  Design by committee generally takes longer and doesn't guarantee better results.  Look at how much the back design has been tossed around.  Granted, this end result is an improvement, but the process for creating it has dragged out a while as a result of public polling - and the basic design idea came from the guy making it, not from the peanut gallery!  :))

I do agree that you're doing very well with the indices.  I was the guy who suggested you do them, and I don't regret my suggestion for even a moment.

BTW: if anyone's interested, this is now officially the most replied-to topic in the whole Discourse!  And by a wide margin!
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Post by: Derek on February 14, 2012, 01:03:55 AM
Love the new Q! I'll digitize it and the 10 soon. School all day and work all night is killing me slowly...
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 14, 2012, 03:48:09 AM
http://flockdraw.com/gallery/view/1119167

We were havin' some fun earlier on today at the chat whiteboard and i ended up drawing the drafts of the 2s hahaa and moon.exe helped me out with my 2Hearts ^_^
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 14, 2012, 04:16:00 AM
http://flockdraw.com/gallery/view/1119167 (http://flockdraw.com/gallery/view/1119167)

We were havin' some fun earlier on today at the chat whiteboard and i ended up drawing the drafts of the 2s hahaa and moon.exe helped me out with my 2Hearts ^_^

They look cute.  Looking forward to seeing the finished products!
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 14, 2012, 04:53:02 AM
The twos look pretty good! I like the flower theme. With enough detail those could look really cool! Like Don said, can't wait to see the finished product.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 14, 2012, 12:02:05 PM
12 more hours to post on this thread!
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 14, 2012, 06:14:26 PM
12 more hours to post on this thread!


Since we're pretty much locked down on the back design now, could you remove the poll?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 14, 2012, 07:05:41 PM
Yes, thx for the advice. I have locked it and will change it whenever someone has a suggestion for what to vote about.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 14, 2012, 07:10:54 PM
http://flockdraw.com/gallery/view/1119167 (http://flockdraw.com/gallery/view/1119167)

We were havin' some fun earlier on today at the chat whiteboard and i ended up drawing the drafts of the 2s hahaa and moon.exe helped me out with my 2Hearts ^_^

They look cute.  Looking forward to seeing the finished products!
The twos look pretty good! I like the flower theme. With enough detail those could look really cool! Like Don said, can't wait to see the finished product.


I will probably be able to post more updates on the two when I arrive in Beijing, since I will borrow my sister's drawing tablet thing ^_^. I am also very excited about this. I know there are a lot of skeptics about this project. Whether or not this is going to get funded, i think the face that a lot of people is pulling together to get designs done.. over the net (internationaly) is not an easy feat ^_^ so kudos to all.

I have to pack up in a bit since I'm leaving in three days! @Don I will go on the Deck hunt ASAP. ^_^
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 14, 2012, 07:15:29 PM
http://flockdraw.com/gallery/view/1119167 (http://flockdraw.com/gallery/view/1119167)

We were havin' some fun earlier on today at the chat whiteboard and i ended up drawing the drafts of the 2s hahaa and moon.exe helped me out with my 2Hearts ^_^

They look cute.  Looking forward to seeing the finished products!
The twos look pretty good! I like the flower theme. With enough detail those could look really cool! Like Don said, can't wait to see the finished product.


I will probably be able to post more updates on the two when I arrive in Beijing, since I will borrow my sister's drawing tablet thing ^_^. I am also very excited about this. I know there are a lot of skeptics about this project. Whether or not this is going to get funded, i think the face that a lot of people is pulling together to get designs done.. over the net (internationaly) is not an easy feat ^_^ so kudos to all.

I have to pack up in a bit since I'm leaving in three days! @Don I will go on the Deck hunt ASAP. ^_^
Quite honestly I was shocked by the number of skeptics yesterday. Wether it gets funded or not, I think the idea is to have fun and work together and make the Discourse proud. And, if it doesn't get funded, we can always make changes and try again!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 15, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
Indexes - Loldudex2 and Derek - done
Back Design - Derek - done
Ace of spades - Derek
Ace of hearts - Aaron - done
Ace of diamonds - Derek - done
Ace of clubs - Robert Butler - done
Kings - Loldudex2 - 3 done, 1 missing
Queens - Moon.exe
Jacks - sinsandman
Tens - Nathan - done
Nines - IAmTheChin
Eights - chdmagicdude
Sevens - Kensei777 - one done, 3 missing
Sixes - RandyButterfield - one done, 3 missing
Fives (pick two) - Austin
Fives (the other two) - hazofhorsham
Fours - John
Threes - DiamondKing
Twos - KrystleLane - 3 done, 1 missing
Single-faced ad card - Alex
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
We are missing a few drafts and a few artists. Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one on anyone! Let's keep up the work!

The following people haven't shown a draft for any of their cards:
DiamondKing
John
Austin
Hazorhorsham
chdmagicdude
Iamthechin
Sinsandman

All the jobs with done written next to them means that at least one rough draft was made.
The people above need to show work by Sunday 26th of February or they are out.
Let's keep on working. It seems like creation has slowed down recently. Let's keep it up.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 15, 2012, 06:46:01 PM
 Thanks for updating us on which ones have been submitted and which ones are still in the works. ^_^  2 more days till i leave so that draws me closer to being able to submit a better sketch of my twos! I have to admit that being in this project has really helped me in rediscovering my love for drawing and it also helped me in improving in artistic thinking! hahaha! so kudos.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 15, 2012, 07:03:45 PM
Thanks for updating us on which ones have been submitted and which ones are still in the works. ^_^  2 more days till i leave so that draws me closer to being able to submit a better sketch of my twos! I have to admit that being in this project has really helped me in rediscovering my love for drawing and it also helped me in improving in artistic thinking! hahaha! so kudos.
Hehe I'm happy for you. We need people to get back to work though!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 15, 2012, 07:11:00 PM
 hahaha give them a break nathan. after all most of us just celebrated Valentines day or a.k.a. Single Awareness Day. ^_^ not to mention the NFL LoL! anyway in due time no need to rush things. in the meantime do enjoy my photoblog http://laranovales.jux.com LoL!
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Post by: xela on February 17, 2012, 05:12:15 AM
How's the project coming along, everyone? I'm dropping by to suggest using something posted in the Official Aether board - a QR code that leads to the site! It was a brilliant idea.
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Post by: Siegismyname on February 17, 2012, 05:40:08 AM
How's the project coming along, everyone? I'm dropping by to suggest using something posted in the Official Aether board - a QR code that leads to the site! It was a brilliant idea.
yup, remember to quote me for the idea. hehehehehe ;D
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Post by: dee1orean on February 17, 2012, 07:15:20 AM
How's the project coming along, everyone? I'm dropping by to suggest using something posted in the Official Aether board - a QR code that leads to the site! It was a brilliant idea.
yup, remember to quote me for the idea. hehehehehe ;D

Definately do this, Maybe on the tuck box or the ad card, or maybe someone could incorporate it into their face design?
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 17, 2012, 01:34:56 PM
How's the project coming along, everyone? I'm dropping by to suggest using something posted in the Official Aether board - a QR code that leads to the site! It was a brilliant idea.
yup, remember to quote me for the idea. hehehehehe ;D

Definately do this, Maybe on the tuck box or the ad card, or maybe someone could incorporate it into their face design?


I like using the tuck box.
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 17, 2012, 02:17:41 PM
Yeah the QR code could go on the bottom of the tuck box. That's where I've seen them in the past (besides on the Tungstene deck haha). It's a great idea though!!
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Post by: Derek on February 18, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
New Back idea. Lemme know what you guys think!!!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/8xtvm0.png)
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Post by: xela on February 18, 2012, 06:36:49 PM
Two things:

1. If the file isn't properly converted to RGB before saving for the web, the result can be quality loss, color degradation and pixellation. Make sure your color formats are all in working order.

2. For the shade of blue in the gradient, try using a spectrum found on the boards themselves. Derek are you on v2 yet?
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 18, 2012, 07:19:09 PM
Assuming I'm seeing the colors correctly, it looks awesome.  I love the edge fade and the lightening of the shade in the center.
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Post by: Evan on February 18, 2012, 07:25:26 PM
It looks awesome and its so weird that it looks so much like the harlequin deck but different shapes and colors
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 18, 2012, 08:00:48 PM
It looks awesome and its so weird that it looks so much like the harlequin deck but different shapes and colors

Yeah I also noticed the similarities. I'm not sure if it is a good or bad thing, but it does look good!! This is probably my favorite back design so far!
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Post by: Derek on February 18, 2012, 11:47:17 PM
Two things:

1. If the file isn't properly converted to RGB before saving for the web, the result can be quality loss, color degradation and pixellation. Make sure your color formats are all in working order.

2. For the shade of blue in the gradient, try using a spectrum found on the boards themselves. Derek are you on v2 yet?

I took a screenshot of it, which got messed up for some reason. The real file is in the correct color form etc.
You mean take the blue colors from the background on the forum? That may look nice  :D

And yes I am on V2...  ;D
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 21, 2012, 09:15:08 AM
New Back idea. Lemme know what you guys think!!!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/8xtvm0.png)

Great job on the back design Derek. I am really loving the improvements that you are adding to the colors and what not. 
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 21, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
This thread has really slowed down. Idk if that is good or bad. Maybe it is because people are working, idk. Do you guys think we should have a deadline for a final draft of the cards we have designed?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 21, 2012, 08:10:08 PM
I think this thread has slowed down, probably because some people are on vacation. However, we do need more cards to be designed. For those who have not completed their assigned cards, I URGE you to start working as soon as possible. My goal was to launch a kickstarter this summer, giving us 3 months for the card and box design, and 1 month for finishing everything up and calculating the funds needed.
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Post by: Derek on February 21, 2012, 10:31:29 PM
Yeah I've been slowed down by school then work almost every day. Then the days i don't have work I'm usually busy. arrgghhhh  :-[
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Post by: moonexe on February 21, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
hmm I might be the only one, but I actually liked the back more without the blue. :P
Oh well.

As for deadlines... It's not a full-time project for most people. I have a portfolio to make for college as well as my Wonderland deck to design, so I can't be working on a different set of queens at the same time, that would be too much.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 21, 2012, 11:30:01 PM
I've been pretty busy also with work, kids, life....

I was able to finish up the SIX of Hearts though!

thanks, Randy
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Post by: dmbaggs on February 21, 2012, 11:45:33 PM
Wow Randy those look great!! This deck is really coming together. Have you all settled on a back design yet?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Rajas Paranjpe on February 22, 2012, 07:47:48 AM
so what is the status of this collaborative deck?  I have been browsing through the post but not able to find out exact progress.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 22, 2012, 08:06:51 AM
so what is the status of this collaborative deck?  I have been browsing through the post but not able to find out exact progress.
Right Now it is currently in the design phase. We are still trying to get all the art for the deck.



I've been pretty busy also with work, kids, life....

I was able to finish up the SIX of Hearts though!

thanks, Randy


Ugggh.....Seeing Randy's work really makes me feel like I need to do much more work...which is a good thing since it is pushing me to do better  :)

Randy, you are holding us up to a very high standard!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 22, 2012, 08:35:03 AM

Wow Randy that is a sweet six f hearts!

Shucks, I will try to improve my drawings.


Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: RandyButterfield on February 22, 2012, 11:40:09 AM
Thanks for the compliments on the Sixes!

Derek, I went ahead and setup a quick scene to help you decide which direction you want to go further with on the Back Design. I'm a big fan of color so I like Version C the best but I think you should go back to the pattern used on Version A and add the color background into that file. I think the pattern on Version C is slightly noticeable as being stretched horizontally.

thanks, Randy

Here's Discourse Version A:
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: RandyButterfield on February 22, 2012, 11:40:54 AM
Discourse Version B:
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 22, 2012, 11:41:19 AM
Discourse Version C:
 
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 22, 2012, 11:43:58 AM
Discourse Version C:
That is my favorite, I really think we should go with that back for the deck. :)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Rajas Paranjpe on February 22, 2012, 12:00:40 PM
Version C is indeed looking fantastic. Great job mate !
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 22, 2012, 12:32:42 PM
I don't know why but I think that version C will end up best but I think it needs a couple changes:
1) 2 Ds back to back in the center
2) Less pixelated Ds
3) "Discourse running down along the side in red
4) A more turquoise kind of blue for the background.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: loldudex2 on February 22, 2012, 01:54:05 PM
I don't know why but I think that version C will end up best but I think it needs a couple changes:
1) 2 Ds back to back in the center
2) Less pixelated Ds
3) "Discourse running down along the side in red
4) A more turquoise kind of blue for the background.

I honestly don't want discourse to be in red. It will just look odd and since the letters are small, I feel it will make it clash and look way to cheesy, and/or tacky.

Secondly, I hated back "C" but seeing it in that fan has instantly changed my mind. I love it, I love how the colors fade, and I don't think you should change the blues at all.
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Post by: Aaron on February 22, 2012, 01:56:42 PM
I don't know why but I think that version C will end up best but I think it needs a couple changes:
1) 2 Ds back to back in the center
2) Less pixelated Ds
3) "Discourse running down along the side in red
4) A more turquoise kind of blue for the background.

I honestly don't want discourse to be in red. It will just look odd and since the letters are small, I feel it will make it clash and look way to cheesy, and/or tacky.

Secondly, I hated back "C" but seeing it in that fan has instantly changed my mind. I love it, I love how the colors fade, and I don't think you should change the blues at all.
I agree with that, I don`t think the discourse running down the sides is neccesary anymore. And that fan looks awesome, I feel we should close the back design and use this :)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 22, 2012, 02:02:18 PM
I don't know why but I think that version C will end up best but I think it needs a couple changes:
1) 2 Ds back to back in the center
2) Less pixelated Ds
3) "Discourse running down along the side in red
4) A more turquoise kind of blue for the background.

I honestly don't want discourse to be in red. It will just look odd and since the letters are small, I feel it will make it clash and look way to cheesy, and/or tacky.

Secondly, I hated back "C" but seeing it in that fan has instantly changed my mind. I love it, I love how the colors fade, and I don't think you should change the blues at all.
I agree with that, I don`t think the discourse running down the sides is neccesary anymore. And that fan looks awesome, I feel we should close the back design and use this :)

I still feel the word "Discouse" should be there, but not in red.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 22, 2012, 02:49:56 PM
I don't know why but I think that version C will end up best but I think it needs a couple changes:
1) 2 Ds back to back in the center
2) Less pixelated Ds
3) "Discourse running down along the side in red
4) A more turquoise kind of blue for the background.

I honestly don't want discourse to be in red. It will just look odd and since the letters are small, I feel it will make it clash and look way to cheesy, and/or tacky.

Secondly, I hated back "C" but seeing it in that fan has instantly changed my mind. I love it, I love how the colors fade, and I don't think you should change the blues at all.
I agree with that, I don`t think the discourse running down the sides is neccesary anymore. And that fan looks awesome, I feel we should close the back design and use this :)

I still feel the word "Discouse" should be there, but not in red.
Ahh, I see what you mean, That would also look good. The red would look bad with blue and white though.
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Post by: hazofhorsham on February 22, 2012, 03:55:50 PM
Crap completely and utterly forgot about this :L sorry guys...
My opinion if you want it -
Version C, looking great and fading well. The colour is mature and sophisticated.
In terms of having the discourse thing on it I think it wouldn't go well, the D matches the spades and also is what symbolizes the discourse - almost like the karnival hornets - they didn't have karnival on it, they put little skulls to show it's theres and thats what the D's do here. It's your deck guys and feel free to do what you like, just be careful not to make it to gimmicky and merchandisy... It's the discourse deck because it's made from the hearts of the discourse, not because its the discourse's product line. I have always felt the decks that are logo'd or sloganed are a bit tacky myself - but once again up to you :)


Great Designs everyone, and I think it deserves special attention, great design Randy.
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Post by: Aaron on February 22, 2012, 04:09:17 PM
Crap completely and utterly forgot about this :L sorry guys...
My opinion if you want it -
Version C, looking great and fading well. The colour is mature and sophisticated.
In terms of having the discourse thing on it I think it wouldn't go well, the D matches the spades and also is what symbolizes the discourse - almost like the karnival hornets - they didn't have karnival on it, they put little skulls to show it's theres and thats what the D's do here. It's your deck guys and feel free to do what you like, just be careful not to make it to gimmicky and merchandisy... It's the discourse deck because it's made from the hearts of the discourse, not because its the discourse's product line. I have always felt the decks that are logo'd or sloganed are a bit tacky myself - but once again up to you :)


Great Designs everyone, and I think it deserves special attention, great design Randy.


Thank you for the kind words :)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 22, 2012, 04:13:29 PM
I thought it over and here's what I think. I do like the C better in fans, but we need to make sure it looks nice when holding a single card in our hand.
Also, I think we should do some changes to the "Discourse" running along the side. I just think it looks kinda awkward on version C. Maybe we could make the color a bit more turquoise-ish.
Finally, I really liked the little shape in the center of back B. Maybe we could put two Ds back to back, kinda like for D&D S&Ms.
I think version C is the way to go but I think it still needs some subtle changes. Also, @
Derek, why is it so pixelated?
@Krystle - When you have the time, will you be able to update Aetheria on your blog?
I know I am demanding for a lot, but I think our efforts will be worth it! :D
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 22, 2012, 04:24:24 PM
I thought it over and here's what I think. I do like the C better in fans, but we need to make sure it looks nice when holding a single card in our hand.
Also, I think we should do some changes to the "Discourse" running along the side. I just think it looks kinda awkward on version C. Maybe we could make the color a bit more turquoise-ish.
Finally, I really liked the little shape in the center of back B. Maybe we could put two Ds back to back, kinda like for D&D S&Ms.
I think version C is the way to go but I think it still needs some subtle changes. Also, @
Derek, why is it so pixelated?
@Krystle - When you have the time, will you be able to update Aetheria on your blog?
I know I am demanding for a lot, but I think our efforts will be worth it! :D
I like the idea of having discourse down the side, in a colour that goes with the design. I don`t really like the shapes being in it. But that is only me opinion, but I think it should get the back the same colour as the discourse. Then the deck will have an awesome back.


Here is kinda a timeline I came up with:


March 20- Try to be done at least 2 of the cards you are doing


April 20- Everyone be done their designs and people educated in Photoshop start making the designs usable


May 20- Be done making the cards look good


June 20- Be decided on where we are printing, How many decks we are printing


July 4- Launch the Kickstarter




That would give us plenty of time to get done our designs, We may even be done sooner :)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: dee1orean on February 22, 2012, 04:35:23 PM
Derek, that back design is awesome, the colour is spot on and I think it should be left as is,

A lot of people on here are like:

You should do this blah blah,

I'd like to see this Blah blah,

Reality check people.

You've entrusted Derek to design the back, the designs he's posted throughout this thread have been brilliant yet theres alway at least one of you that has to stick your two cents in I'd find it demoralising to constantly have my designs, not criticised exactly but if I were Derek I'd feel my designs were never good enough.

Nathan you are the worst for this, you may be heading up this project, but this is not YOUR deck, it is a collaborative effort between Discourse members if enough members are happy with this design then let it be, otherwise if you keep asking for changes it will never get done.


Randy, those Sixes are frickin awesome dude!!!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Evan on February 22, 2012, 04:38:40 PM
I like Version C the best. The colors really pop  ???
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 22, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
Derek, that back design is awesome, the colour is spot on and I think it should be left as is,

A lot of people on here are like:

You should do this blah blah,

I'd like to see this Blah blah,

Reality check people.

You've entrusted Derek to design the back, the designs he's posted throughout this thread have been brilliant yet theres alway at least one of you that has to stick your two cents in I'd find it demoralising to constantly have my designs, not criticised exactly but if I were Derek I'd feel my designs were never good enough.

Nathan you are the worst for this, you may be heading up this project, but this is not YOUR deck, it is a collaborative effort between Discourse members if enough members are happy with this design then let it be, otherwise if you keep asking for changes it will never get done.


Randy, those Sixes are frickin awesome dude!!!
Sorry if it seemed I was being picky. I was just trying to give a few suggestions. Personally I think we should just keep it how it is right now and it will be good. :)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 22, 2012, 06:05:07 PM
@Dee1orean - The idea was for every card to be however the artist intended it to be, but the back design to fit everyone. If it weren't for constructive criticism, the back design wouldn't be where it is now. I am just making suggestions, nothing less, nothing more. I do realize I am not the best at leading this project, but if it weren't for me, this project wouldn't even exist. I have maybe spent 3 hours a day on average on this project, and I have tuned in to the best of my abilities. If you aren't happy, you can find a better solution.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 22, 2012, 06:05:41 PM
@Randy - I really like that other six!!! Nice job!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: dmbaggs on February 22, 2012, 07:14:28 PM
I think option C looks the best!! It's my favorite back design and it looks great in the spread. You should change the poll so that we can vote on those three options
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 22, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
@Aaron - I like the idea of a calendar. I will change it when I have the time.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 22, 2012, 07:28:36 PM
I have changed and reopened the poll. Please vote!
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Post by: dee1orean on February 22, 2012, 07:51:11 PM
@Dee1orean - The idea was for every card to be however the artist intended it to be, but the back design to fit everyone. If it weren't for constructive criticism, the back design wouldn't be where it is now. I am just making suggestions, nothing less, nothing more. I do realize I am not the best at leading this project, but if it weren't for me, this project wouldn't even exist. I have maybe spent 3 hours a day on average on this project, and I have tuned in to the best of my abilities. If you aren't happy, you can find a better solution.

Nathan, I don't doubt your commitment to the project, I wouldn't want to do it, However look at your quote above specifically, "The back design to fit everyone". that's exactly my point. a leader needs to listen. look at all the posts after the current back design was posted the MAJORITY approved the design, then you posted:

I thought it over and here's what I think. I do like the C better in fans, but we need to make sure it looks nice when holding a single card in our hand.
Also, I think we should do some changes to the "Discourse" running along the side. I just think it looks kinda awkward on version C. Maybe we could make the color a bit more turquoise-ish.
Finally, I really liked the little shape in the center of back B. Maybe we could put two Ds back to back, kinda like for D&D S&Ms.
I think version C is the way to go but I think it still needs some subtle changes. Also, @
Derek, why is it so pixelated?
,

YOU want to change the colour
YOU want two D's in the middle of the deck (something way to similar to Dan and Dave)

The only valid constructive comment there about the pixellation.

The MAJORITY approved or are happy with the design then you want to change it quite drastically, that's not collaborating, that's dictating.

The back design ticks all the right boxes for a lot of people. Let it be, otherwise as I said above it will never get finished. You can't please all the people, the best you can hope for is to please most of them.

This Deck is looking awesome, it really is, I said in an earlier post I was very dubious about this project, but it really is moving forward brilliantly..
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 22, 2012, 08:03:17 PM
I didn't WANT anything. I was just suggesting some stuff. The majority of people INCLUDING ME like this back the best BUT wanted some minor changes such as the font/color of discourse running along the side. I also wanted this. The only additional thing I wanted was the Ds in the middle which Don Boyer, a very trusted member of AC, had suggested.
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Post by: dee1orean on February 22, 2012, 08:37:19 PM
After the back design was posted, ONE member did not like the colour of the whole back, and ONE Member (YOU) wanted to change the colour/font of the discourse. Everyone else was happy with this back design Don included.

Im trying to urge you to make a final decision, Not just because I like this back design but because this has been going on for ages now.

Also look back through all your posts and see how often you've posted the words "I Think" I think (oops) you'll be surprised, I was going to post about it earlier, but thought you'd get over it.

Criticism is one of the hardest things to accept, I know, I'm awful at accepting it myself.

I'm not going to post about this issue anymore, if you decide to settle on this back don't do it to appease me, do it because it's what the members of The Discourse want.

I've been following this project closely and shall continue to do so.

Good luck everyone!!!
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Post by: Derek on February 22, 2012, 09:18:08 PM
Thank you dee1orean, honestly that's how i've been feeling. I post a design and I appreciate all the criticism. Most people say they love it, and then Nathan and 1-2 others want me to change something. I love the C design. I'll tweak it so that the shapes are more even and not stretched but definitely no red letters. Definitely not adding a design amongst it. I don't really like the two d idea because like you said, Dan and Dave already did that. It looks awesome in the fan and id say 9 out of 10 people will be happy. That's good enough for me :) Hopefully it's good enough for everyone else. The main focus will be on the faces anyways, every one being unique. LETS GO!  :D :D
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: moonexe on February 22, 2012, 09:22:29 PM
Version C as it is. The less changes the better. I think the poll is going that way, too. :P
Nathan, stop trying to justify yourself, you're really just making it worse. Everyone seems to be satisfied with the current design and you're the only one who wants so many changes.
Stop now, and everything will be fine. ;)
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 23, 2012, 12:37:36 AM
 VC gave me an Aethergasm! <3 it! that is my vote
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Derek on February 23, 2012, 01:17:42 AM
Hahaha, I'm glad you guys like it  :D FYI, it's only pixelated because it was a screenshot. The actual file is high quality  ;D
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 23, 2012, 01:19:33 AM
Hahaha, I'm glad you guys like it  :D FYI, it's only pixelated because it was a screenshot. The actual file is high quality  ;D
Ok that is awesome. Very nice designs Derek.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: dmbaggs on February 23, 2012, 01:54:18 AM
So it looks like option c is the best. I would post the design and ask people if they are happy with it and then if they are just finalize that. I think option C is good and we could call the back design all done!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: kensei777 on February 23, 2012, 05:35:13 AM
No complaints there. I was the one that cast the none of the above vote but I actually like option C as well. The reason I didn't pick was because I trust Derek with the back. Whether he does or does not apply any changes to it, I'd leave that to him. He's done an excellent job so far anyway. Besides but correct me if I'm wrong, if I remember correctly, he's the one in charge of digitizing the raw images so if he gets stuck with the backs then wouldn't this deck stall as well?
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Post by: Evan on February 23, 2012, 10:06:07 AM
Hahaha, I'm glad you guys like it  :D FYI, it's only pixelated because it was a screenshot. The actual file is high quality  ;D
Ok that is awesome. Very nice designs Derek.
Ok good, it didn't look as good.
Can you upload the high quality one?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 23, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
Ok, sry Derek. I don't know what got into me, trying to impose my opinion on everyone. I was just trying to help. I think I should know better. Apparently, the main opinion is Option C with changes or not, depending on what Derek wishes.
I am going to put a poll on the dead-line for having our designs finished. Do you think this would be a good idea?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 23, 2012, 01:32:15 PM
Ok, sry Derek. I don't know what got into me, trying to impose my opinion on everyone. I was just trying to help. I think I should know better. Apparently, the main opinion is Option C with changes or not, depending on what Derek wishes.
I am going to put a poll on the dead-line for having our designs finished. Do you think this would be a good idea?

As long as its not too soon. I'd rather have a great deck put out in a year, then an ok deck put out a few months. I feel if we just keep working hard on it, we will do fine, but there is no purpose to try to hurry us up, because that increases rushed design.

Do we need deadlines? Yes to make sure people are working.

Should we hurry this up and rush it? No not at all.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 23, 2012, 02:33:25 PM
Ok, sry Derek. I don't know what got into me, trying to impose my opinion on everyone. I was just trying to help. I think I should know better. Apparently, the main opinion is Option C with changes or not, depending on what Derek wishes.
I am going to put a poll on the dead-line for having our designs finished. Do you think this would be a good idea?

As long as its not too soon. I'd rather have a great deck put out in a year, then an ok deck put out a few months. I feel if we just keep working hard on it, we will do fine, but there is no purpose to try to hurry us up, because that increases rushed design.

Do we need deadlines? Yes to make sure people are working.

Should we hurry this up and rush it? No not at all.
I completely agree. But do you think I should put the poll right away, or wait for more people to vote on this one?
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Post by: xZEROx on February 23, 2012, 04:03:06 PM
Keep the poll. It wouldn't hurt having more people vote right?
I chose option C, but with minor tweaks. I like the colouring and the simplicity in it, but I wasn't really into the whole "D" on the back with the Discourse. I know we're trying to put something that others could recognize it as our deck. But the words on the back design somewhat breaks the elegance of it. Maybe put "Discourse" on AoS or the Joker instead?
Just my two cents.
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Post by: Derek on February 23, 2012, 04:33:54 PM
Thanks for the support guys. I tried changing the color a tad but I really like it. I also changed the DISCOURSE lettering on the sides to black to match the rest. I think if I kept it a color or something, it would distract from the overall design. I like that the lettering is subtle and one might not even notice it at first.

Here is the final design UNLESS someone comes up with a good suggestion to change it.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/xd5xc5.jpg)
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 23, 2012, 04:38:31 PM
@Derek - That looks amazing! It truly does! I think this is, by far, the best! I just had one question: will the D in the middle of the back make a subtle one-way back design or are we going to change it so it is truly 2 way?
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Post by: Derek on February 23, 2012, 04:47:26 PM
Not sure if you can tell but there isn't a D in the exact middle. The middle part is 4 D's wide, two facing one way, two facing the other, alternating. Thus - two way back  :D



ALSO ON A SIDE NOTE, I HAVE ACCUMULATED A WOPPING GRAND TOTAL OF ONE SIGNITURE FOR THE AoS. Now that i'm done with the back, I'll focus on the Ace but i need signatures people. Go to my other thread, I bumped it to the top, if your name isn't on the list and you're working on the deck, post your name. THEN email me your signature on a white sheet of paper written in sharpie. Can be a cell phone pic of scan. DerkPhotography@gmail.com

Thanks  ;)
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 23, 2012, 05:33:03 PM
Not sure if you can tell but there isn't a D in the exact middle. The middle part is 4 D's wide, two facing one way, two facing the other, alternating. Thus - two way back  :D



ALSO ON A SIDE NOTE, I HAVE ACCUMULATED A WOPPING GRAND TOTAL OF ONE SIGNITURE FOR THE AoS. Now that i'm done with the back, I'll focus on the Ace but i need signatures people. Go to my other thread, I bumped it to the top, if your name isn't on the list and you're working on the deck, post your name. THEN email me your signature on a white sheet of paper written in sharpie. Can be a cell phone pic of scan. DerkPhotography@gmail.com

Thanks  ;)

I'm guessing that's mine, correct?
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Post by: Derek on February 23, 2012, 05:38:41 PM
Haha yup, and now I have Lara's as well.
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Post by: xZEROx on February 23, 2012, 05:42:10 PM
I just had one question: will the D in the middle of the back make a subtle one-way back design or are we going to change it so it is truly 2 way?

The deck looks 2-way to me. I can't find anything that makes it 1-way.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 23, 2012, 05:43:01 PM
Not sure if you can tell but there isn't a D in the exact middle. The middle part is 4 D's wide, two facing one way, two facing the other, alternating. Thus - two way back  :D



ALSO ON A SIDE NOTE, I HAVE ACCUMULATED A WOPPING GRAND TOTAL OF ONE SIGNITURE FOR THE AoS. Now that i'm done with the back, I'll focus on the Ace but i need signatures people. Go to my other thread, I bumped it to the top, if your name isn't on the list and you're working on the deck, post your name. THEN email me your signature on a white sheet of paper written in sharpie. Can be a cell phone pic of scan. DerkPhotography@gmail.com

Thanks  ;)

  I sent you mine now! I hope it helps! ^_^



darn it got beat.... right before I posted my reply hahahah! anyway yeah just choose whichever you wanted there in my sigs
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Post by: Evan on February 23, 2012, 05:43:26 PM
Thanks for the support guys. I tried changing the color a tad but I really like it. I also changed the DISCOURSE lettering on the sides to black to match the rest. I think if I kept it a color or something, it would distract from the overall design. I like that the lettering is subtle and one might not even notice it at first.

Here is the final design UNLESS someone comes up with a good suggestion to change it.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/xd5xc5.jpg)
I don't see anything that needs to be changed. Looks great to me! Excellent work.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 23, 2012, 05:53:05 PM
Actually, I just realized my mistake: it is truly a 2-way back design.
I will send you my signature soon, Derek.
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Post by: hazofhorsham on February 23, 2012, 07:13:55 PM
Looking great :) keep it up.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on February 23, 2012, 08:04:59 PM
Here's a couple renders with the Hi Res Texture Map:

http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/DISCCircle3d.jpg

http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/DISCCloseup3d.jpg



thanks, Randy
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Post by: kensei777 on February 23, 2012, 08:12:22 PM
Not sure if you can tell but there isn't a D in the exact middle. The middle part is 4 D's wide, two facing one way, two facing the other, alternating. Thus - two way back  :D



ALSO ON A SIDE NOTE, I HAVE ACCUMULATED A WOPPING GRAND TOTAL OF ONE SIGNITURE FOR THE AoS. Now that i'm done with the back, I'll focus on the Ace but i need signatures people. Go to my other thread, I bumped it to the top, if your name isn't on the list and you're working on the deck, post your name. THEN email me your signature on a white sheet of paper written in sharpie. Can be a cell phone pic of scan. DerkPhotography@gmail.com

Thanks  ;)

  I sent you mine now! I hope it helps! ^_^



darn it got beat.... right before I posted my reply hahahah! anyway yeah just choose whichever you wanted there in my sigs


Whoops! Sorry Derek. I'll send you mine in a bit. Awesome work as usual btw.  :D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 23, 2012, 10:14:12 PM
@Randy - It looks very neat and professional. I like it!
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Post by: Aaron on February 23, 2012, 10:18:27 PM
I will get you my signuature asap. Also those pics of the back are SEXY! :D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 23, 2012, 11:46:45 PM
^^ ikr! I sent you my signature, Derek!
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Post by: kensei777 on February 24, 2012, 03:20:53 AM
Just sent my signature but please do let me know if you received it or not. I'm using thunderbird so I'm not 100% sure it actually sent.
I'm posting here too just incase anyone else missed the I need YOUR name for the Discourse Deck!! (http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=1629.new#top) topic.  :P 
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 24, 2012, 06:27:04 AM
Here's a couple renders with the Hi Res Texture Map:

http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/DISCCircle3d.jpg

http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/DISCCloseup3d.jpg



thanks, Randy
Wow! Those look real...real amazing (sorry for the cheesiness factor of that). Now I am really anticipating the release of this deck. Now we just need the face cards done!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 24, 2012, 09:06:17 AM
Here's a couple renders with the Hi Res Texture Map:

http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/DISCCircle3d.jpg

http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/DISCCloseup3d.jpg



thanks, Randy
Wow! Those look real...real amazing (sorry for the cheesiness factor of that). Now I am really anticipating the release of this deck. Now we just need the face cards done!

 I agree that its really really beautiful! That is THE most amazing blue gradient backs ever! Great awesome wonderful job Derek.

Anyway Nathan is right we have to keep working on our face cards. I'm currently drawing the diamonds and playing around in placement and colours. ^_^  I will try to make two versions. Since I think Derek is going to be the one who will do the finalizing on the images right?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 24, 2012, 11:45:54 AM
Okay. I think Derek has a lot of work on his hands so we need to get to work on the faces. Also, since many designers haven't done anything yet and haven't posted anything on this thread, they will be kicked from this project. I will post a list of the new jobs we need to have filled, now.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 24, 2012, 12:38:30 PM
Okay. I think Derek has a lot of work on his hands so we need to get to work on the faces. Also, since many designers haven't done anything yet and haven't posted anything on this thread, they will be kicked from this project. I will post a list of the new jobs we need to have filled, now.

Would you rather me add detail now to my 3 face cards, or would you prefer that I got a concept for my last one?
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Post by: Derek on February 24, 2012, 12:47:15 PM
Got signatures from Lara, Kensei777, Randy, Nathan, and loldudex2. Keep em coming!
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 24, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
I'll send my sig while I'm at work tonight.


The back looks good.  Pull the poll, we don't need it anymore.  We have our design and it's solid.


Randy's new Six looks great, as we would expect after seeing the first one!


Derek - how's YOUR project going?  I haven't seen an update in a while, though I admit I've been a little scarce the past few days.  Post something there rather than here to reply, to cut the clutter.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 24, 2012, 01:42:59 PM
I have locked the poll and will soon post an update with the deadline and the jobs needed.
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Post by: Derek on February 24, 2012, 09:30:10 PM
I have a situation here, no big deal BUT.. I just realized that if I were to use the signature of everyone that's even remotely involved in this deck, the names would be so small that in the AoS, you would barely be able to see them. THUS, I am going to be only using the signatures of people creating cards, so that will be 10-15, not sure, but that will be a lot more doable than 25 signatures, they would just be unreadable.
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Post by: xZEROx on February 24, 2012, 10:05:10 PM
What about making one of those "ad" cards? E always have an extra card in the deck for their ads. We could do that. Right?
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Post by: Aaron on February 24, 2012, 10:12:19 PM
ys alex said he will put the standard AC ad in.


Does the signature have to be black?
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Post by: Derek on February 25, 2012, 12:12:32 AM
No, but definitely a dark color!
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Post by: Don Boyer on February 25, 2012, 04:36:38 AM
For those of you who don't remember:

It was put forth that the AoS would have signatures.  Yes, they'll be nearly illegible due to size.  But remember: a sig doesn't have to be "first name last name" - it can be your personal logo, it can be your initials, it can be whatever little scrawl you decide is YOURS.

Regarding the ad cards, we have four sides on two cards.  One side will have the standard Aether Cards advertisement.  The remaining three will give credits to the various artists and contributors IN PRINT along with their contributions.  I gave examples of other decks that followed this model, including Play Me Burlesque playing cards from Kickstarter - a keyword search for "playing cards" won't turn them up, but a search for "deck of cards" will.  With the right font, all contributors and titles should fit on three playing card sides while still being legible.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 25, 2012, 08:49:24 AM
Hey Guys!

So yeah... a photo editing illiterate me working with a crappy image editor and yeah. I'm not too familiar with the other stuff this editing software can do but yeah. I have not "really" flattened the images.... but yeah. This is more or less the 2 of diamonds.

Yes there are lines on the BG. I wanted it look somewhat like lines on a leaf... but this is the closest I can get to be because I really really don't know how to do this. ^_^

Please be kind :(

Also feel free to make it look better if needs be ^_^

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Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 09:01:04 AM
Hey Lara, I really like that two of diamonds! Keep in mind, the borders need to be white.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 25, 2012, 09:10:08 AM
Hey Lara, I really like that two of diamonds! Keep in mind, the borders need to be white.

 yeah About that.... I just used that magic wand thingy to select the whatever space... and yeah..... ***im a loser*** when in comes to that. but I did save it as a PXD r photoshop file so randy can just make the borders white ^_^ sorry randy.... ^_^
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Post by: hazofhorsham on February 25, 2012, 09:28:35 AM
For someone who claims to be useless at design THOSE LOOK AWESOME.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 09:49:54 AM
Hey Lara, I really like that two of diamonds! Keep in mind, the borders need to be white.

 yeah About that.... I just used that magic wand thingy to select the whatever space... and yeah..... ***im a loser*** when in comes to that. but I did save it as a PXD r photoshop file so randy can just make the borders white ^_^ sorry randy.... ^_^

I'm sure it's no big deal. Someone could probably fix it within a matter of seconds.
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Post by: slyS on February 25, 2012, 12:06:13 PM
Hi


May I know if there is anyone doing the artwork for the threes?


I have no knowledge in photoshop but I do wish to help out too. So if you all won't mind then may I do the job for the threes if it's available?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 02:16:47 PM
Ok. I have tons of things to say but not a lot of time right now. I am going to check and write within the next 10 minutes with info about if you can do the 3s or not.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 02:30:30 PM
My internet connection is really slow, but while my pages are loading, here's what I have to say.
1) I really like that 2 of diamonds, Krystle. I just think that its a bit to "graphicky" if you know what I mean...
2) I kinda disagree with you Don :O because I think that our ad cards should have normal backs and not be double-facers.
3) If we have two ad cards with normal backs, the first one will be AC's ad card, so we can't put any names on that one. The second one should also have a normal back, which leaves us a whole face of a card to write 25 names. We will have more than enough space!
4) So, finally, what I'm saying is that I think we should trust Derek, put only the names of the artists on the AoS, and put ALL of the names of those who contributed in one way or another on one face of the extra cards, with a normal back.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 02:51:23 PM
Sorry for the triple post  ::) If there is a check next to your name that means that you are good to go and that you have shown some work.
If there is nothing next to your name that means that you are still in but haven't shown any work.
If your name isn't on here it means that you aren't a part of the project and that you should join!
The threes are available for you, slyS
Indexes - Loldudex2 and Derek√
Back Design - Derek√
Ace of spades - Derek√
Ace of hearts - Aaron√
Ace of diamonds - Derek√
Ace of clubs - Robert Butler√
Kings - Loldudex2√
Queens - Moon.exe?
Jacks - ??????
Tens - Nathan√
Nines - IAmTheChin?
Eights - ?????
Sevens - Kensei777√
Sixes - RandyButterfield√
Fives - ???????
Fours - ?????
Threes - slyS
Twos - KrystleLane√
Jokers - Moon.exe√
Single-faced ad card - Alex
Single-faced extra card with all the credits - NathanCanadas
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
We are missing a few drafts and a few artists. Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one on anyone! Let's keep up the work!
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Post by: xZEROx on February 25, 2012, 04:24:50 PM
Nathan, instead of a triple post, how about just go back and edit your first, and put everything there?
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 25, 2012, 07:03:10 PM
Nathan, instead of a triple post, how about just go back and edit your first, and put everything there?

 I'm sorry to say this but I kind of agree on this one. There is an edit option for a reason.

Also, my 2 of diamonds is Graphicky because I don't know how to use photoshop, gimp or whatever. Which was why I said that Derek or whoever is going to finalize the designs can stream line it or something. So yeah. Please don't let me explain this again and again and again.
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 07:07:33 PM
Hey Nathan, I've asked this before, but I'm wondering, would you rather me to first add detail to the cards I've already drawn, or would you rather me design the last king.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 07:14:21 PM
Hey Nathan, I've asked this before, but I'm wondering, would you rather me to first add detail to the cards I've already drawn, or would you rather me design the last king.
I don't care either way, whichever one you feel like doing. It doesn't matter as long as you finish your cards within the deadline.
As for the double and triple posts I don't know what got into me today. I had stopped doing this and here I do it again. I know I've posted this in another thread but can someone please tell me how to delete a post so I can erase those first 2 posts?
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Post by: xZEROx on February 25, 2012, 07:21:08 PM
You can't delete a post, just like how you couldn't undo something that you've done in real life. Just remember to go back and edit your post instead of posting multiple times next time around. It makes the forum look cleaner. Thanks!
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 25, 2012, 07:38:57 PM
 Anyway getting back into topic .I really wanted to have a "petal" feel to the diamond flowers, but I really really don't know how to do it. So I tried my best with what I had.
The background was supposed to be like the patterns on a leaf so yeah... whatever. ^_^
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Hey Nathan, I've asked this before, but I'm wondering, would you rather me to first add detail to the cards I've already drawn, or would you rather me design the last king.
I don't care either way, whichever one you feel like doing. It doesn't matter as long as you finish your cards within the deadline.
As for the double and triple posts I don't know what got into me today. I had stopped doing this and here I do it again. I know I've posted this in another thread but can someone please tell me how to delete a post so I can erase those first 2 posts?
Alright. Has the deadline been posted yet, or are we still waiting to see how everything is going before the deadline.
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Post by: slyS on February 25, 2012, 10:35:49 PM
Thanks for letting me be part of this team! Well, while waiting for nathan's reply, I actually did some rough sketching of my concept of the threes.


Hmm how do I post my picture here? Seems like I cannot use the attachment below because it's too small for my files...
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 11:16:19 PM
Thanks for letting me be part of this team! Well, while waiting for nathan's reply, I actually did some rough sketching of my concept of the threes.


Hmm how do I post my picture here? Seems like I cannot use the attachment below because it's too small for my files...
Try taking a screen picture of them, that should be the right size. On a mac it's option-shift-4 and drag and release. Nice job getting started!
@Loldudex2 - Unless you guys feel like a deadline should be posted immediately, I feel like we should wait until everyone has a good start.
@sxyj0109 - Hopefully in real life I'm much more careful about what I do and write than on these forums.. shame on me. :'(
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Post by: slyS on February 25, 2012, 11:35:31 PM
ahh I see, thanks Nathan! Okay so here are my rough sketches for the three of spades, hearts and diamonds.


Well as an aeronautical student, I decided to link them with planes. So let me know what you guys think about it!

thanks!
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 11:40:51 PM
ahh I see, thanks Nathan! Okay so here are my rough sketches for the three of spades, hearts and diamonds.


Well as an aeronautical student, I decided to link them with planes. So let me know what you guys think about it!

thanks!

Wow, I really like them! I love how it is different then most cards, and had a back story to why you chose you design. very nice start!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 11:42:57 PM
I really like those threes! Just wondering, where is the third heart on the three of hearts? Are you going to want them to be 2-way or 1 way?
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 11:46:39 PM
I really like those threes! Just wondering, where is the third heart on the three of hearts? Are you going to want them to be 2-way or 1 way?

I see no possible way of these being two way. Plus, it doesn't really matter since it is just the faces.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 11:49:39 PM
I really like those threes! Just wondering, where is the third heart on the three of hearts? Are you going to want them to be 2-way or 1 way?


I see no possible way of these being two way. Plus, it doesn't really matter since it is just the faces.
I actually don't want him to make them two way. Most of the cards in our deck aren't and I think it's great that way. I was just wondering! :D
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Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 11:53:13 PM
I really like those threes! Just wondering, where is the third heart on the three of hearts? Are you going to want them to be 2-way or 1 way?


I see no possible way of these being two way. Plus, it doesn't really matter since it is just the faces.
I actually don't want him to make them two way. Most of the cards in our deck aren't and I think it's great that way. I was just wondering! :D
Ok, cool! I think these cards would look sick on an uncut sheet of this deck with the planes everywhere!
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Post by: slyS on February 26, 2012, 01:21:58 AM
thanks for the compliments!

I really like those threes! Just wondering, where is the third heart on the three of hearts? Are you going to want them to be 2-way or 1 way?


well the 'third heart' or the third parachute, I thought of making it to appear as if the device is spoilt and that's why the person is screaming 'ahahahah' . Hope you get what I meant  :) .  I thought of making them to be 1-way design, is it alright?
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Post by: Aaron on February 26, 2012, 01:32:51 AM
Very nice designs SlyS


I think you should make the third heard visible though. When someone is looking at the deck they won`t know that it is supposed to be a failed parachute. But if you want to keep it that way that is cool. :)


Also who can I send my Ace to for them to touch it up in photoshop? Pm me whoever can please.
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Post by: Derek on February 26, 2012, 02:07:30 AM
Those 3's are amazing! Love the creativity, reminds me of Nyclopedia's designgs  :D
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Don Boyer on February 26, 2012, 03:05:00 AM

2) I kinda disagree with you Don :O because I think that our ad cards should have normal backs and not be double-facers.
3) If we have two ad cards with normal backs, the first one will be AC's ad card, so we can't put any names on that one. The second one should also have a normal back, which leaves us a whole face of a card to write 25 names. We will have more than enough space!
4) So, finally, what I'm saying is that I think we should trust Derek, put only the names of the artists on the AoS, and put ALL of the names of those who contributed in one way or another on one face of the extra cards, with a normal back.

The concept behind using the ad cards was for a list of credits, not just names.  You could fit a list of 25 names and how each person contributed to the job, but you'd need strong reading glasses to read them all.  If you want them in a reasonably-sized font, you need more room on which to print them.

We discussed this before about the credits - why have you suddenly stated that things "should" be a different way?  Perhaps you should put that up for a poll instead, since the card back is locked down at this point.

BTW: I do agree with the idea of artist's signatures on the AoS and all contributors on the credits.  It will make for a neater appearance on the Ace.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 26, 2012, 05:18:04 AM
Hey Lara, I really like that two of diamonds! Keep in mind, the borders need to be white.

 yeah About that.... I just used that magic wand thingy to select the whatever space... and yeah..... ***im a loser*** when in comes to that. but I did save it as a PXD r photoshop file so randy can just make the borders white ^_^ sorry randy.... ^_^

I'm sure it's no big deal. Someone could probably fix it within a matter of seconds.

 I do hope so. I now really regret not saving the uncolored version. ****STUPID ME****
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Don Boyer on February 26, 2012, 06:19:09 AM
Hey Lara, I really like that two of diamonds! Keep in mind, the borders need to be white.

 yeah About that.... I just used that magic wand thingy to select the whatever space... and yeah..... ***im a loser*** when in comes to that. but I did save it as a PXD r photoshop file so randy can just make the borders white ^_^ sorry randy.... ^_^


I'm sure it's no big deal. Someone could probably fix it within a matter of seconds.


 I do hope so. I now really regret not saving the uncolored version. ****STUPID ME****
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But you did post an image of it here, right?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 26, 2012, 06:30:58 AM
 yeap in page 39
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: slyS on February 26, 2012, 09:21:31 AM
Very nice designs SlyS


I think you should make the third heard visible though. When someone is looking at the deck they won`t know that it is supposed to be a failed parachute. But if you want to keep it that way that is cool. :)


hmm I will think about it, thanks for pointing that out! :)


@Nathan - I will most probably be inactive in the coming few weeks, have my exams this coming mon and wed and next I will have to prepare for my 6 weeks trip to china(not sure if this website will be block or not over there). I feel that there's a need to tell you this since you're the leader for this project. I will try to rush my work when I come back from china. Please don't kick me from this project :( haha just joking!

On a side note, anyone can recommend any shops in Beijing that sells playing cards at good prices? Sorry for being off topic here!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Evan on February 26, 2012, 11:22:25 AM
Wow I missed a lot the past couple days.
slyS those are some awesome designs! They're very umm, whats the word.... clever!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: dmbaggs on February 26, 2012, 03:11:19 PM
Wow I missed a lot the past couple days.
slyS those are some awesome designs! They're very umm, whats the word.... clever!

Just went back and checked out those designs! They are pretty clever. I'm liking a lot of the drawings I've seen for this deck  :D Keep up the good work guys!

p.s.- is there going to be a new poll? What's the next thing that needs to be worked out?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 26, 2012, 05:37:32 PM
Very nice designs SlyS


I think you should make the third heard visible though. When someone is looking at the deck they won`t know that it is supposed to be a failed parachute. But if you want to keep it that way that is cool. :)


hmm I will think about it, thanks for pointing that out! :)


@Nathan - I will most probably be inactive in the coming few weeks, have my exams this coming mon and wed and next I will have to prepare for my 6 weeks trip to china(not sure if this website will be block or not over there). I feel that there's a need to tell you this since you're the leader for this project. I will try to rush my work when I come back from china. Please don't kick me from this project :( haha just joking!

On a side note, anyone can recommend any shops in Beijing that sells playing cards at good prices? Sorry for being off topic here!

You are going to china?!!! where and when!
I'm in China right now!
Beijing!
Come on tell meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
If you are going to Beijing. I will take you to the Magic shops that I know! Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
plus its a great opportunity to write a great blog post about it and yeah!



Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: RandyButterfield on February 26, 2012, 06:11:24 PM
Hey Guys!

So yeah... a photo editing illiterate me working with a crappy image editor and yeah. I'm not too familiar with the other stuff this editing software can do but yeah. I have not "really" flattened the images.... but yeah. This is more or less the 2 of diamonds.

Yes there are lines on the BG. I wanted it look somewhat like lines on a leaf... but this is the closest I can get to be because I really really don't know how to do this. ^_^

Please be kind :(

Also feel free to make it look better if needs be ^_^



Sorry, we just got back from a trip up to Michigan. Lara, the 2 of Diamonds is very pretty!! I would love to redraw it, add a white border and play around with the background image. I can take care of prepping all of Lara's 2s to give Derek a break from the rest.

Thanks, Randy
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 26, 2012, 08:45:41 PM
@Don - The AC ad card will be however Alex wants it to be, so we have no say on whether it will have a normal back or not. However, for the remaining card, I will put up a poll. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm suddenly changing my mind about this extra card. I didn't know that this had already even been talked about (silly me). I just wanted to express my differentiating point of view.
@slyS - I hope you have  a good time in China, but don't forget to work a bit on your threes, if you can! :P
@Randy - How was Michigan? (I don't want to meddle, I just was wondering  ::)
Here goes the poll!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: slyS on February 26, 2012, 09:49:15 PM
@MagicAddictz and brown_baggs - Thanks for the compliments! :)


@Nathan - Of course!





You are going to china?!!! where and when!
I'm in China right now!
Beijing!
Come on tell meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
If you are going to Beijing. I will take you to the Magic shops that I know! Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
plus its a great opportunity to write a great blog post about it and yeah!


Wow that's great! I'm leaving for Beijing on 4th March and staying there for 4 weeks before leaving for Guangzhou. However, my purpose for going Beijing isn't for vacation but my school's internship to the P&W company, which means I can only meet you on my weekends :( :( :(

I will see how things goes about. Sorry for being off topic again!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Evan on February 26, 2012, 10:02:37 PM
I honestly don't care about the 2 extra cards.

And seriously? Who picked the first option that says "do not select"?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: dmbaggs on February 26, 2012, 10:05:09 PM
Yeah I don't care either! I think the art part is more important anyways. Those extra cards are just the icing on the cake  :P
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: loldudex2 on February 26, 2012, 10:06:30 PM
I think we should ICUs on the main deck first. Besides, we don't even have all the artists, so why bother with the extra cards now?


EDIT: Focus, not ICUs. I'm on my iPhone and autocorrect happened.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 26, 2012, 10:18:21 PM
Should I lock it and wait? I was just doing what Don suggested.  ::)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: dmbaggs on February 26, 2012, 10:20:08 PM
Should I lock it and wait? I was just doing what Don suggested.  ::)

Yeah leave it until the end. I think the focus should be on the cards/art right now. There's no need for ad cards if you don't have a deck ;)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: loldudex2 on February 26, 2012, 10:21:53 PM
Should I lock it and wait? I was just doing what Don suggested.  ::)

You might as welep it. We might as well use the poll for something.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on February 27, 2012, 01:20:45 AM
@slyS  well it's fine. I have work on the weekdays so I can only meet you in the weekends. But I really do want to meet up with you sometime! It would be so much fun and we can make the rest of The Discourse jealous lol hahahaha just kidding you guys. 

Anyway, back to topic.... Stupid iPad selected the 1 option while it was submitting my vote.... I want to change it but. Don't think there is a way but anyway, my vote was for the 2nd option. 
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Don Boyer on February 27, 2012, 02:09:57 AM
@Don - The AC ad card will be however Alex wants it to be, so we have no say on whether it will have a normal back or not. However, for the remaining card, I will put up a poll. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm suddenly changing my mind about this extra card. I didn't know that this had already even been talked about (silly me). I just wanted to express my differentiating point of view.


You also seem to have forgotten that Alex stated he didn't care what went on the back of his ad card, right?

I demonstrated examples of art decks where they used the ad cards as a comprehensive list of credits done in a clear and legible way.  One specific example was for an artists' deck that's released annually, where one artist does all the cards for a single suit (sound familiar?).  Using three of the four faces for credits allowed for all of the people working on this deck in one form or another to get their name and a credit for what they did without the print having to be squint-small.

How did you manage to create that poll?  It doesn't even list the option I suggested, and the current leading option is the one no one is supposed to vote for!

[bangs forehead on keyboard]

Is there a specific reason why you think it would be better to print all the credits on a single side of one ad card, and to have the regular card back on both ad cards?

Please restructure the vote to read like this, if you don't mind:

Question: Which do you prefer on the four sides of the two ad cards?
1) Regular backs on both, credits on one in tiny print, AC ad on the other.
2) Credits on both sides of one in small print, AC ad on the other with regular back.
3) Credits on three sides in regular print, AC ad on the fourth.
4) I really couldn't give a flying fig and have no opinion - do what thou wilst.
5) I want something different, and I'll describe it in a post below...
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 27, 2012, 11:03:16 AM
@Don - I didn't know he said anything could go on the back of his ad card. I thought he wanted to have complete control over the front and the back of the card, which left us with only 1 ad card. And I know it is kind of ridiculous that the first option has the most votes but Krystle said it was an error. I'm going to change the poll like you said.  ;)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Don Boyer on February 28, 2012, 01:13:05 AM
@Don - I didn't know he said anything could go on the back of his ad card. I thought he wanted to have complete control over the front and the back of the card, which left us with only 1 ad card. And I know it is kind of ridiculous that the first option has the most votes but Krystle said it was an error. I'm going to change the poll like you said.  ;)

...since the vote items changed, please reset the votes to zero...
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 28, 2012, 01:15:56 AM
Haha sry about that. That's done!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Aaron on February 28, 2012, 01:16:23 AM
I don`t think alex said we can`t have credits on the back of his ad card. ???
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: zaganh on February 28, 2012, 04:10:48 AM
what the hell haha can somone bring me back up to speed on this ? i havent been getting emails for this toic when i should of been strange
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 28, 2012, 01:41:46 PM
what the hell haha can somone bring me back up to speed on this ? i havent been getting emails for this toic when i should of been strange
I'm sorry but I don't think you are a part of this project anymore since you didn't show any interest in it. But if you read all 40-some pages and choose a set of cards, you can be back in. :D
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: zaganh on February 28, 2012, 01:58:18 PM
what the hell haha can somone bring me back up to speed on this ? i havent been getting emails for this toic when i should of been strange
I'm sorry but I don't think you are a part of this project anymore since you didn't show any interest in it. But if you read all 40-some pages and choose a set of cards, you can be back in. :D

haha did osmone take over my ace of spades ? i posted a desighn for it and was waiting for somone to post on the topic and no one ever did so i htought but i just wasnt getting any notifacations i read up to where i posted my deighn so not that many pages to read but still
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 28, 2012, 02:19:46 PM
what the hell haha can somone bring me back up to speed on this ? i havent been getting emails for this toic when i should of been strange
I'm sorry but I don't think you are a part of this project anymore since you didn't show any interest in it. But if you read all 40-some pages and choose a set of cards, you can be back in. :D

haha did osmone take over my ace of spades ? i posted a desighn for it and was waiting for somone to post on the topic and no one ever did so i htought but i just wasnt getting any notifacations i read up to where i posted my deighn so not that many pages to read but still
Now that I know that you are a native english speaker, can you please write sentences that make sense, with punctation marks, capitals etc. We are already locked down on another ace of spades design. However, that pip can serve for another card of you choice. Look at the list and pick a job.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: zaganh on February 28, 2012, 02:40:44 PM
what the hell haha can somone bring me back up to speed on this ? i havent been getting emails for this toic when i should of been strange
I'm sorry but I don't think you are a part of this project anymore since you didn't show any interest in it. But if you read all 40-some pages and choose a set of cards, you can be back in. :D

haha did osmone take over my ace of spades ? i posted a desighn for it and was waiting for somone to post on the topic and no one ever did so i htought but i just wasnt getting any notifacations i read up to where i posted my deighn so not that many pages to read but still
Now that I know that you are a native english speaker, can you please write sentences that make sense, with punctation marks, capitals etc. We are already locked down on another ace of spades design. However, that pip can serve for another card of you choice. Look at the list and pick a job.

im really terrible at it last time i tried i put to much puncaiton and it made less sense
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 28, 2012, 02:52:04 PM
Well you can at least put capitals, periods, spell your words correctly, re-read after yourself before you post.
Getting back on track, read all the pages, and then you can be in for the project.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Evan on February 28, 2012, 06:13:41 PM
The poll doesn't show up for me... anyone else?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 28, 2012, 06:18:16 PM
The poll doesn't show up for me... anyone else?
It is normal since I locked it.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Evan on February 28, 2012, 07:12:43 PM
The poll doesn't show up for me... anyone else?
It is normal since I locked it.
Oh ok... what was the conclusion of it?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 28, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
The poll doesn't show up for me... anyone else?
It is normal since I locked it.
Oh ok... what was the conclusion of it?
I changed the poll and didn't let any one vote on it, so the results were 0 votes for each category.
@Don - apparently, I am not the only one who understood that we wouldn't be able to use the back of the AC ad card, even if we chose to.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Paul Carpenter on February 28, 2012, 09:34:40 PM
So I've been too busy with various things (take a guess what that is) to look at this so far. Probably too late, but is there a list of what's done? Any cards available? I'll do a card if there is anything free.

You might want to put updates like that in the first post so we don't have to read 42 pages to see the status of the operation. :)
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 28, 2012, 09:53:34 PM
So... Here's all the info. Pick card/series of cards with no name next to them. Krystle has updated her blog with all the info.
If there is a check next to your name that means that you are good to go and that you have shown some work. Each check represents 1 card done.
If there is nothing next to your name that means that you are still in but haven't shown any work.
If your name isn't on here it means that you aren't a part of the project and that you should join!
The threes are available for you, slyS
Indexes - Loldudex2 and Derek√ - ALL DONE
Back Design - Derek√ - ALL DONE
Ace of spades - Derek√ - STARTED
Ace of hearts - Aaron√ - ALMOST THERE
Ace of diamonds - Derek√ - ALMOST THERE
Ace of clubs - Robert Butler√ - ALL DONE
Kings - Loldudex2√√√ - 3/4 DONE
Queens - Moon.exe√√ - STARTED FOR 2/4
Jacks -
Tens - Nathan√√√√ - ALL DONE
Nines - IAmTheChin
Eights - ??
Sevens - Kensei777√ - STARTED
Sixes - RandyButterfield√√ - STARTED FOR 2/4
Fives - ?
Fours - ??
Threes - slyS√√ - STARTED FOR 2/4
Twos - KrystleLane√√√ - AMOST THERE 3/4
Jokers - Moon.exe√√ - ALL DONE
Single-faced ad card - Alex
Single or double faced extra card with all the credits - NathanCanadas
Custom Seal - Alex
Tuck Case - Alex
Brought to USPCC - Alex
We are missing a few drafts and a few artists. Feel free to pick a job, I do not wish to impose one on anyone! Let's keep up the work!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: RandyButterfield on February 28, 2012, 11:35:58 PM

Hey Lara, here's what I ended up with for your TWO of Diamonds. Hope you like it!
I added a little detail in the flower petals and a few thorns for fun.

thanks, Randy
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 29, 2012, 12:00:19 AM
Wow! Wow! Just WOW! Randy, you and Derek amaze me. That looks light and deep at the same time. Just perfect! <3
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Derek on February 29, 2012, 01:18:09 AM
Randy that's astonishing!!! You definitely have more skills than I do in the graphic design department! i'm glad you're on board  :D :D
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: xZEROx on February 29, 2012, 01:31:25 AM
Beautiful!
Though I have to confess, it's not THAT clear it's the 2 of diamonds at first sight.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Don Boyer on February 29, 2012, 04:36:52 AM
Haha sry about that. That's done!

But the poll is locked and no one can vote.  I know I can't.

The poll doesn't show up for me... anyone else?
It is normal since I locked it.
Oh ok... what was the conclusion of it?
I changed the poll and didn't let any one vote on it, so the results were 0 votes for each category.
@Don - apparently, I am not the only one who understood that we wouldn't be able to use the back of the AC ad card, even if we chose to.

Please read this quote.  I hope you appreciate it, since I had to wade through hundreds of messages to find it.  I'll make bold and red the section that's most pertinent to this conversation.

Hey guys, I have a few things to say:

1. I love the teamwork I am seeing and some of the stuff created are on the way to becoming a very interesting design.
2. If you guys want, feel free to have this be some other deck. I never demanded that AC or The Discourse be advertised, I just said that if you guys want to include an ad card for the boards, we have to use the my standard ad card and not something created by a member.
3. You guys have 100% permission to use anything and everything on the boards. If you want some of the raw files that I have for the site, just ask. I think it would be really cool to see the Omnes pip transformed into a legitimate Ace of Spades, let me know what you think!
4. The ad card can either be the standard card I use, it could be an ad card on one side and a continuation of names on the other, or I could do something fun and throw in a back design for the next deck, whatever it may be at the time. Up to you all!

NOW do you believe me?!?  Please, if you're leading the project, LEAD IT, and do the administrative end of it by keeping track of who said what and how it affects the project.  All Alex cares about is, if we even decide to include an ad card for AetherCards, since he did make that OPTIONAL, that one side of it be his standard ad, and he doesn't give a flying fig what's on the other side.  So yes, we can use THREE card sides of the four available on the ad cards for credits in a reasonably easy-to-view font.

Research, baby, research...

Do we need a vote, or do people who care one way or the other like using three card faces for credits?  If we do need one, Nathan, please UNLOCK the poll, now that's it's zeroed out and has the correct questions.  Set a deadline to vote - one week should be adequate.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: loldudex2 on February 29, 2012, 07:07:46 AM
Wow Randy! That two of diamamonds looks astonishing! I love it! Now I'm wondering, will all of the cards be edited in photoshop by Randy and/or Derek, or is that too much work and this is just a one-time thing?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: RandyButterfield on February 29, 2012, 09:13:28 AM
Wow Randy! That two of diamamonds looks astonishing! I love it! Now I'm wondering, will all of the cards be edited in photoshop by Randy and/or Derek, or is that too much work and this is just a one-time thing?

My Sixes and Lara's Twos are the only ones I'll probably have time to work on. I volunteered to redraw Lara's Twos because she mentioned she doesn't have Photoshop, Gimp or any other image editing program that could create a hi res version.

thanks, Randy
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Paul Carpenter on February 29, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
OK, it seems that the Eights are not claimed at the moment, so I'll take a stab at those. :)

Is there one spot we can see all the current cards? I checked through and didn't see any obvious location yet. I'd like to get a feel for what folks have done so far...
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: slyS on February 29, 2012, 10:29:45 AM
OK, it seems that the Eights are not claimed at the moment, so I'll take a stab at those. :)

Is there one spot we can see all the current cards? I checked through and didn't see any obvious location yet. I'd like to get a feel for what folks have done so far...


you can see them in Krystle's blog, but it's locked by her. You will gotta ask her for the password!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 29, 2012, 11:05:06 AM
The password is aethercards no caps. @Don - I was told by three people that I should lock the poll as we weren't ready for it. They said we should take care of the design before the credits. So, I'm kinda split between the two. Thanks for finding Alex's post. I had apparently skipped that one. I am leading while trying to get the majority's opinion before making a decision.
But thanks a lot for finding that.
:D
Nathan

EDIT: here is all the progress so far. I truly hope this helps. If you want anything else from me, just say it. It isn't perfect but it includes all the info and the designs. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: dmbaggs on February 29, 2012, 02:19:21 PM
That's awesome Nathan!! That's a big help and I know the visual is nice with all the writing in the thread. Hopefully we can drill through some of these and make a lot of progress in the next couple weeks.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: loldudex2 on February 29, 2012, 03:52:28 PM
Wow Nathan! That's incredible, and it shows, we still have a LOT of work to go. We need to start making progress again, or else this might never happen?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 29, 2012, 05:24:04 PM
Thanks a lot for the nice comments guys. It sure would be nice to see some more work from some of our artists, as well as some new artists. We would need some work from Alex Chin, Kensei777 and Moon, as well as all of us others.
Let's keep the momentum flowing!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Derek on February 29, 2012, 05:59:43 PM
Great work Nathan! Very helpful! I'd LOVE to make the ace of spades because the idea intrigues me. I do however only have 4 signatures. Lets say 5... including mine.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 29, 2012, 06:13:37 PM
Great work Nathan! Very helpful! I'd LOVE to make the ace of spades because the idea intrigues me. I do however only have 4 signatures. Lets say 5... including mine.
I understand the issue. Here a list of the artists. Please tell me which ones you have.
- Moon.exe
- Nathan
- Loldudex2
- Derek
- Kensei
- Krystle
- Iamthechin
- Robert
- Aaron
- slyS
- Randy
- Unclaimed
- Unclaimed
- Unclaimed

I will put a check next to the ones whose signature you have.
Thx,
Hope this helps,
Nathan
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Post by: Derek on February 29, 2012, 08:03:47 PM
Great work Nathan! Very helpful! I'd LOVE to make the ace of spades because the idea intrigues me. I do however only have 4 signatures. Lets say 5... including mine.
I understand the issue. Here a list of the artists. Please tell me which ones you have.
- Moon.exe
- Nathan
- Loldudex2
- Derek
- Kensei
- Krystle
- Iamthechin
- Robert
- Aaron
- slyS
- Randy
- Unclaimed
- Unclaimed
- Unclaimed

I will put a check next to the ones whose signature you have.
Thx,
Hope this helps,
Nathan

Derek
Nathan
loldude
Lara
Randy
EDIT: and Kensei
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Post by: dee1orean on February 29, 2012, 08:20:29 PM
Seeing that makes me want an uncut
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Post by: NathanCanadas on February 29, 2012, 10:24:38 PM
WE NEED THESE PEOPLE'S SIGNATURES:
- Moon.exe
- Iamthechin
- Robert
- Aaron
- slyS
- Alex
- Unclaimed
- Unclaimed
- Unclaimed
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on March 01, 2012, 01:09:57 AM

Hey Lara, here's what I ended up with for your TWO of Diamonds. Hope you like it!
I added a little detail in the flower petals and a few thorns for fun.

thanks, Randy

 Randy...... THAT IS AMAZING!!!!!  Its almost as I envisioned it but you added more beautiful things!!!!!  ****insert meme puking rainbow here *****

Beautiful!
Though I have to confess, it's not THAT clear it's the 2 of diamonds at first sight.

 I was kinda contemplating on that bit when I was brainstorming for ideas for this design, but I said, "Well.... The pips will do their job in identifying it." LoL!

@NathanCanadas  your compilation of the progression of all the art works submitted makes me want to have 2 kinds of uncut sheets for this deck LoL! hahahahah! The final uncut sheet and a special draft art uncut sheet LoL! Thanks for keeping track of the progress BTW. Also I will try to update "The Evolution of Aetheria" sometime this weekend when I don't have work.

oh and to the people who are wondering why I password protected the blog post. Its just to make sure that the only people who know about it for now are us, the Aetherians and the lurkers who are patient enough to read through pages and pages of discussions. ^_^ Of course in the long run we want to protect our artwork too right?
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Post by: slyS on March 01, 2012, 06:04:42 AM
WE NEED THESE PEOPLE'S SIGNATURES:
- Moon.exe
- Iamthechin
- Robert
- Aaron
- slyS
- Alex
- Unclaimed
- Unclaimed
- Unclaimed


Opps!!! Okay I will send my signature to you most probably by tmr. Let me know if you didn't receive it :)


just one question here. If we would to produce the cards with the AOS having our signature, wouldn't it be possible for person to scan the AOS into the computer and use our signatures? (I had never use debit/credit card before so... I'm not sure about how it works, sorry if I'm asking a noob question)
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on March 01, 2012, 07:18:21 AM


Opps!!! Okay I will send my signature to you most probably by tmr. Let me know if you didn't receive it :)


just one question here. If we would to produce the cards with the AOS having our signature, wouldn't it be possible for person to scan the AOS into the computer and use our signatures? (I had never use debit/credit card before so... I'm not sure about how it works, sorry if I'm asking a noob question)

 I did not use my official signature that I use on my cards. I sent my chinese signature. ^_^
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Post by: slyS on March 01, 2012, 10:12:43 AM

 I did not use my official signature that I use on my cards. I sent my chinese signature. ^_^


Ohh good idea!, Thanks! ;D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 01, 2012, 10:44:13 AM

 I did not use my official signature that I use on my cards. I sent my chinese signature. ^_^


Ohh good idea!, Thanks! ;D
Just sign your name or your signature or whatever on a piece of paper (any color combination works as long as it is legible) and take a picture of it or scan it and send it to DerkPhotography@gmail.com
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Post by: Derek on March 01, 2012, 11:53:32 AM
Your signature will be about a centimeter big, theres no way anyone will be able to read it well let alone track you down, steal your credit card, and then use that signature. Don't worry bout it  ;) ;)
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Post by: Aaron on March 01, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
Ho Lee Crap :o :o :o  That two is awesome :)


Is there anyone I can send my ace to to make it look good?


Also I will get my signature in ASAP but I have my phone and laptop taken away forgetting in trouble at school at I can`t take the picture.
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Post by: Evan on March 01, 2012, 07:05:51 PM

Hey Lara, here's what I ended up with for your TWO of Diamonds. Hope you like it!
I added a little detail in the flower petals and a few thorns for fun.

thanks, Randy
That looks really nice but there really needs to be indices in the corners to tell us what card it is. But great work!
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Post by: slyS on March 01, 2012, 09:19:21 PM
Your signature will be about a centimeter big, theres no way anyone will be able to read it well let alone track you down, steal your credit card, and then use that signature. Don't worry bout it  ;) ;)


Ahh I see, understood!
One more thing to add, I had sent you my signature already, let me you if you didn't receive it. Thanks :) [size=78%] [/size]
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Post by: loldudex2 on March 01, 2012, 10:42:20 PM
Your signature will be about a centimeter big, theres no way anyone will be able to read it well let alone track you down, steal your credit card, and then use that signature. Don't worry bout it  ;) ;)

Will the autographs look like random scribbles? If so that'd look very weird, and although it might look nice, I see it looking messy and unorganized.

As long as they are proportionate, it will look fine, but as long as you don't force and stretch out or make it pixelized it will look fine.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on March 04, 2012, 07:51:48 AM
 Wow two days of silence on this thread.
I'm sorry i haven't found enough time to really sit down and do the rest of the twos. But I am going to work on it. I promise. ^_^ ps @Randy you are really amazing... I just wanted to say that again hahahah!

Anyway,

GUYS dont forget to send in your signatures, if ya'll are being cautious about sending in your real siggys that you use for bank stuff and what-not, you can just use a different siggy. I used my Chinese one since I have never used that besides signing papers here in Beijing for class LoL :P

we have to keep going at this.
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Post by: RandyButterfield on March 04, 2012, 12:28:01 PM

Hey Lara, here's what I ended up with for your TWO of Diamonds. Hope you like it!
I added a little detail in the flower petals and a few thorns for fun.

thanks, Randy
That looks really nice but there really needs to be indices in the corners to tell us what card it is. But great work!

I think they shouldn't be in your face obvious at first glance. All of the cards will have the corner pips and indices so that will make them cohesive and recognizeable to each individual card. A good example is the collaborative VS Deck referenced earlier by Ncyclopedia:

http://versusillustration.co.uk/

The artwork for most of the cards don't have much to do with their suit/denomination.
A lot of them don't even have suits in the artwork, except for the corner pips and indices!

thank,
Radny
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Post by: Aaron on March 04, 2012, 12:36:42 PM

Hey Lara, here's what I ended up with for your TWO of Diamonds. Hope you like it!
I added a little detail in the flower petals and a few thorns for fun.

thanks, Randy
That looks really nice but there really needs to be indices in the corners to tell us what card it is. But great work!

I think they shouldn't be in your face obvious at first glance. All of the cards will have the corner pips and indices so that will make them cohesive and recognizeable to each individual card. A good example is the collaborative VS Deck referenced earlier by Ncyclopedia:

http://versusillustration.co.uk/ (http://versusillustration.co.uk/)

The artwork for most of the cards don't have much to do with their suit/denomination.
A lot of them don't even have suits in the artwork, except for the corner pips and indices!

thank,
Radny
I agree with Radny ;) 's point. The indicies are easy to read and will give the player/magician/spectator a goof idea of what the card is.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 04, 2012, 12:54:52 PM

Hey Lara, here's what I ended up with for your TWO of Diamonds. Hope you like it!
I added a little detail in the flower petals and a few thorns for fun.

thanks, Randy
That looks really nice but there really needs to be indices in the corners to tell us what card it is. But great work!

I think they shouldn't be in your face obvious at first glance. All of the cards will have the corner pips and indices so that will make them cohesive and recognizeable to each individual card. A good example is the collaborative VS Deck referenced earlier by Ncyclopedia:

http://versusillustration.co.uk/ (http://versusillustration.co.uk/)

The artwork for most of the cards don't have much to do with their suit/denomination.
A lot of them don't even have suits in the artwork, except for the corner pips and indices!

thank,
Radny
I agree with Radny ;) 's point. The indicies are easy to read and will give the player/magician/spectator a goof idea of what the card is.
I actually think the 2oD is perfect as it is: it seams simple, yet very elegant!
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Post by: Emmanuel on March 06, 2012, 07:06:53 AM
I just discovered another collaborative deck that's in development. No word on when this will be released:
http://creativecards.cc/

And while this site isn't new (they've produced 3 decks already), it's a great example of how the faces do not have to be strongly associated with the value or the suit:
http://www.custom52.com/Default.aspx

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Post by: phantom1412 on March 08, 2012, 07:47:26 AM
I just came here and it's impossible to read all 44 pages.
So, may I ask briefly : is the deck going to be printed?
Which process it's currently in?
And any pics of the decks?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 08, 2012, 03:15:22 PM
I just came here and it's impossible to read all 44 pages.
So, may I ask briefly : is the deck going to be printed?
Which process it's currently in?
And any pics of the decks?
Yes, the deck will be printed if we get the funding and if we complete it. Possibly through Rajas if we like what he has to offer.
The deck is currently in the process of designing.
All you need to do is read the previous page (page 43) and read my posts. They have all the pictures, people in the project, ideas, cards done, updates, etc.
You can also check out Krystle's blog with info regularly updated:
http://laranovales.wordpress.com/cardistry/the-evolution-of-aetheria/
Hope this helps :D
Nathan
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Post by: Evan on March 08, 2012, 04:05:18 PM
Krystle's blog is password protected. The password is... aethercards
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Post by: Aaron on March 08, 2012, 07:50:07 PM
Production has slowed a bit lately, Should we have a time when everyone should have another draft of their work done? Or we could say have all rough drafts done by, say April 15th.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 08, 2012, 09:06:28 PM
Production has slowed a bit lately, Should we have a time when everyone should have another draft of their work done? Or we could say have all rough drafts done by, say April 15th.
Ok. If everyone is okay with this, I am putting a deadline.
We need all cards to be assigned by Monday 19th of March 2011. And every single card should have at least one rough draft by 1 month from then, the 19th of April. That means that if everyone makes 1 draft per card they own, we should be close to being done by mid-April.
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Post by: phantom1412 on March 09, 2012, 01:55:57 AM
Thanks for the answer.
I think this deck is very interesting.
Will it be printed by USPCC, and where will it be sold?
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Post by: moonexe on March 09, 2012, 03:02:09 AM
Our options for now seem to be either USPC or Archduke, both of which have their advantages I shouldn't have to point out by now. ;)
As to where it will be sold, well, it's called the Discourse deck, that should give you a hint. ::)
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Post by: phantom1412 on March 09, 2012, 03:04:16 AM
Our options for now seem to be either USPC or Archduke, both of which have their advantages I shouldn't have to point out by now. ;)
As to where it will be sold, well, it's called the Discourse deck, that should give you a hint. ::)

Okay nice.
And how many do you planned to print?
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Post by: moonexe on March 09, 2012, 03:13:13 AM
That hasn't been decided yet, but I remember Alex mentioned something about getting us a favor with USPC for a smaller-than-normal run. In the case of Archduke, lower costs would probably allow for a bigger run by comparison, but if the demand isn't high enough, it might not be worth it.

Krystle's blog post would be your best source of information if you want to avoid reading the whole thread, pretty much everything is there. It's a community project for Discourse members that is being run in a slightly chaotic way as of now, but if it gets finished, it should be a very interesting deck indeed. ;)
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Post by: phantom1412 on March 09, 2012, 03:14:44 AM
Thank you. I'll read the blog then.
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Post by: moonexe on March 09, 2012, 03:20:48 AM
Ok. If everyone is okay with this, I am putting a deadline.
We need all cards to be assigned by Monday 19th of March 2011. And every single card should have at least one rough draft by 1 month from then, the 19th of April. That means that if everyone makes 1 draft per card they own, we should be close to being done by mid-April.
Oops, I missed your post.
I'd be fine with that, a month is a very reasonable delay for a draft.
Instead of posting a new comment everytime, could you put the list of what's taken or not in the original post instead so everyone knows where to look?
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Post by: Paul Carpenter on March 09, 2012, 01:08:41 PM
Putting some parameters on the time is a good move IMO. Luckily I will have time next week to put some stuff together of my four cards.
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Post by: Evan on March 09, 2012, 03:31:27 PM
Putting some parameters on the time is a good move IMO. Luckily I will have time next week to put some stuff together of my four cards.
I'm really excited to see what your designs look like! We all know that you can design an awesome deck.
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on March 09, 2012, 08:09:31 PM
 After a few days of not being able to go on Aethercards... I'm finally back ish.
Sorry if I haven't posted any updates on the blog yet. Having abit of a trouble with VPN here in Beijing, But I will try again today. or later. or whatever.

Anyway, I'm kinda done with my drafts, and Randy Already PMed me about it (which reminds me I have t reply) so yeah.

Deadlines Deadlines, its great! makes people work. hahahaha!!!!

Expect me.

^_^

cheers!
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Post by: Aaron on March 11, 2012, 03:46:27 AM
That hasn't been decided yet, but I remember Alex mentioned something about getting us a favor with USPC for a smaller-than-normal run. In the case of Archduke, lower costs would probably allow for a bigger run by comparison, but if the demand isn't high enough, it might not be worth it.

Krystle's blog post would be your best source of information if you want to avoid reading the whole thread, pretty much everything is there. It's a community project for Discourse members that is being run in a slightly chaotic way as of now, but if it gets finished, it should be a very interesting deck indeed. ;)
Ya but if we get a 5000 deck run from Archduke and a 2500 deck run from USPCC for the same price we might as well go with Archduke. Even if we didn't have the demand, all the artists could take a brick of cards, that would take the numbers down a bit. But going with USPCC brings in collectors of USPCC decks. idk what to do yet, we will have to vote later on.
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Post by: Don Boyer on March 11, 2012, 04:59:58 AM
That hasn't been decided yet, but I remember Alex mentioned something about getting us a favor with USPC for a smaller-than-normal run. In the case of Archduke, lower costs would probably allow for a bigger run by comparison, but if the demand isn't high enough, it might not be worth it.

Krystle's blog post would be your best source of information if you want to avoid reading the whole thread, pretty much everything is there. It's a community project for Discourse members that is being run in a slightly chaotic way as of now, but if it gets finished, it should be a very interesting deck indeed. ;)
Ya but if we get a 5000 deck run from Archduke and a 2500 deck run from USPCC for the same price we might as well go with Archduke. Even if we didn't have the demand, all the artists could take a brick of cards, that would take the numbers down a bit. But going with USPCC brings in collectors of USPCC decks. idk what to do yet, we will have to vote later on.

Alex also mentioned in the past that most print runs of under 5,000 at USPC are outsourced to other print companies.  I think Rajas will take smaller print runs, and at the least he's notably cheaper.  It remains to be seen regarding getting samples of additional stocks and finishes.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 11, 2012, 02:55:37 PM
That hasn't been decided yet, but I remember Alex mentioned something about getting us a favor with USPC for a smaller-than-normal run. In the case of Archduke, lower costs would probably allow for a bigger run by comparison, but if the demand isn't high enough, it might not be worth it.

Krystle's blog post would be your best source of information if you want to avoid reading the whole thread, pretty much everything is there. It's a community project for Discourse members that is being run in a slightly chaotic way as of now, but if it gets finished, it should be a very interesting deck indeed. ;)
Ya but if we get a 5000 deck run from Archduke and a 2500 deck run from USPCC for the same price we might as well go with Archduke. Even if we didn't have the demand, all the artists could take a brick of cards, that would take the numbers down a bit. But going with USPCC brings in collectors of USPCC decks. idk what to do yet, we will have to vote later on.

Alex also mentioned in the past that most print runs of under 5,000 at USPC are outsourced to other print companies.  I think Rajas will take smaller print runs, and at the least he's notably cheaper.  It remains to be seen regarding getting samples of additional stocks and finishes.
I think we can deal with this issue once all the designs will be completed and once we will have a sample from Rajas.
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Post by: Aaron on March 11, 2012, 02:59:37 PM
So if we go through USPCC would it just be Air cushion finish and Bike stock for cheaper Prod. costs?
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Post by: Paul Carpenter on March 11, 2012, 05:12:10 PM
If I recall, Bike and Aristocrat cost the same, with or without air cushion (though they call air cushion "embossing" in their quotes for some reason). Magic finish is $.20 per deck.

They told me about 90% of their custom jobs are Aristocrat/Magic these days.
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Post by: Don Boyer on March 11, 2012, 11:14:37 PM
If I recall, Bike and Aristocrat cost the same, with or without air cushion (though they call air cushion "embossing" in their quotes for some reason). Magic finish is $.20 per deck.

They told me about 90% of their custom jobs are Aristocrat/Magic these days.

I know that if we decided to go with USPC branding (Bicycle, Bee, Tally Ho, etc.) the Magic Finish is included.  Is anyone interested in going branded?  It costs a bit more but provides name brand recognition.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 12, 2012, 12:16:58 AM
If I recall, Bike and Aristocrat cost the same, with or without air cushion (though they call air cushion "embossing" in their quotes for some reason). Magic finish is $.20 per deck.

They told me about 90% of their custom jobs are Aristocrat/Magic these days.

I know that if we decided to go with USPC branding (Bicycle, Bee, Tally Ho, etc.) the Magic Finish is included.  Is anyone interested in going branded?  It costs a bit more but provides name brand recognition.
As I said before it all depends on how much funding we can get. If we get enough we could do this. If we don't we will have to find another alternative. But as of right now all this is out of the question.
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Post by: joshzachmatt on March 13, 2012, 04:18:56 PM
I really couldn't give a flying fig and have no opinion - do what thou wilst.
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Post by: joshzachmatt on March 13, 2012, 04:21:47 PM
I voted, how do I see the post?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 13, 2012, 05:15:21 PM
I voted, how do I see the post?
How were you able to vote? Voting is locked...
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Post by: loldudex2 on March 13, 2012, 05:18:04 PM
I voted, how do I see the post?
How were you able to vote? Voting is locked...

He copied and pasted his vote into a comment (two above yours).
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Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on March 15, 2012, 08:10:13 AM
 **sigh** The Discourse is running a bit still now.
must.... work.... on.....design....to....send.....to.....randy............

meh

so how is everyone coming along with their designs?
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Post by: Derek on March 16, 2012, 03:36:13 PM
Wow I totally forgot about the deck haha. I've been so busy lately that I strayed away from the computer and such. Seems like most other people did as well xD
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 16, 2012, 03:52:47 PM
Wow I totally forgot about the deck haha. I've been so busy lately that I strayed away from the computer and such. Seems like most other people did as well xD
Haha. It's ok. We moved very quickly at first, so, as long as we don't give up, it'll end up fine! I don't know what to do to get the momentum going.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 23, 2012, 11:44:52 AM
So, it has been a bit more than a week since I last posted. Who has worked on their cards? :/
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Post by: Don Boyer on March 24, 2012, 02:28:14 AM
I'd love to see an update as well, with some artwork samples!
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Post by: NathanCanadas on March 31, 2012, 11:34:30 PM
So.
Does any one have any work to show? We need to keep on moving.
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Post by: Aaron on March 31, 2012, 11:50:27 PM
Who are the people we send cards ready to be photoshopped to? I need my card made to look nice ;D
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Post by: NathanCanadas on April 01, 2012, 12:40:47 AM
Who are the people we send cards ready to be photoshopped to? I need my card made to look nice ;D
Post it here if you are willing, and someone will volunteer to edit it. :D
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Post by: Paul Carpenter on April 04, 2012, 09:34:06 AM
Well I didn't go crazy, but just wanted to play around with alternative pip placements that wouldn't be appropriate on a "normal" deck :) so here's the Eights I was assigned. Pretty simple and clean, but with some subtle details.

Spades - http://cl.ly/FZDN
Diamonds - http://cl.ly/Fa1Z
Hearts - http://cl.ly/Fa9E
Clubs - http://cl.ly/FZEr

Cheers.
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Post by: Evan on April 04, 2012, 09:52:38 AM
It reminds me a lot of tendril (that's a good thing)
I really like them though, especially the heart.. it looks very different and creative.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on April 04, 2012, 11:03:22 AM
I love those nines! And to keep the momentum going, here's what I have compiled:
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Post by: loldudex2 on April 04, 2012, 12:11:30 PM
I will try to make the last king tonight. I have a few ideas for cool kings, so I will try to make a few different sketches of different ideas, and maybe we could put it to a vote.

Anyway, who will be photoshopping and cleaning up the designs to make them look professional?
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Post by: NathanCanadas on April 04, 2012, 12:35:22 PM
Anyway, who will be photoshopping and cleaning up the designs to make them look professional?
I am unsure about that. I would love to but I don't know how to use photoshop or any other similar program. Randy, Derek and Paul also have a lot of work, so I really don't know.
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Post by: loldudex2 on April 04, 2012, 01:17:30 PM
Anyway, who will be photoshopping and cleaning up the designs to make them look professional?
I am unsure about that. I would love to but I don't know how to use photoshop or any other similar program. Randy, Derek and Paul also have a lot of work, so I really don't know.

I recently got the newest photoshop, and I am trying to get really good at it, to the point of proficiency, but I am not sure how long it will take, and I probably won't get good before this deck is being produced.
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Post by: NathanCanadas on April 04, 2012, 01:49:24 PM
Anyway, who will be photoshopping and cleaning up the designs to make them look professional?
I am unsure about that. I would love to but I don't know how to use photoshop or any other similar program. Randy, Derek and Paul also have a lot of work, so I really don't know.

I recently got the newest photoshop, and I am trying to get really good at it, to the point of proficiency, but I am not sure how long it will take, and I probably won't get good before this deck is being produced.
Well it all depends on how long this deck will take. Probably a long time since many cards don't even have a rough draft.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on April 12, 2012, 05:36:00 PM
Bump. Whomever hasn't already should take a minute to look at this the previous posts showcasing all the work put into these decks. Paul has also submitted his 4 cards, and they look brilliant. Let's keep it up guys!
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: loldudex2 on April 12, 2012, 05:56:49 PM
I will try to finish my concept art ASAP, but I've been very busy lately. I will work on them more this weekend.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on April 12, 2012, 06:06:00 PM
Mods, I was wondering if you could make this a sticky or find another way of making it more visible to new members please? Because we need more artists, and progress is slowing down.
Thx,
Nathan
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 01, 2012, 11:25:25 PM
BUMP! Do any new members want to join this awesome project? Does any one have any new artwork?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: RandyButterfield on May 02, 2012, 12:36:21 AM
BUMP! Do any new members want to join this awesome project? Does any one have any new artwork?

I know what I want to do for my other two cards (Six of Clubs and Six of Diamonds), I just haven't carved out the time to do them yet. I'm on vacation next week but I'll try to get to them when we get back.

thanks, Randy

Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 02, 2012, 11:55:07 AM
BUMP! Do any new members want to join this awesome project? Does any one have any new artwork?

I know what I want to do for my other two cards (Six of Clubs and Six of Diamonds), I just haven't carved out the time to do them yet. I'm on vacation next week but I'll try to get to them when we get back.

thanks, Randy
That's cool. Do you know what I should do to get momentum here?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on May 02, 2012, 08:27:56 PM

Hey there,
I am terribly sorry I have not been submitting anything. But right now I am working on it.
So I can give randy something to edit. ^-^ because he is so amazing at this.

Anyway, to get things going we need to have a few people submit some artwork. I will try to get my 2nd draft out in a few hours.

-update-
I was not able to finish the 2 of spades today. :( so sorry.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: chodien on May 05, 2012, 07:47:09 PM
Hi, i'm new to this forum. Saw this thread while browsing, the project seem fun. Can I somehow help?
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 05, 2012, 08:16:30 PM
Hi, i'm new to this forum. Saw this thread while browsing, the project seem fun. Can I somehow help?
First of all, welcome to the forums! Yes, you are more than welcome to help out. The members of this project each pick a series of cards which the design: all suits of that card. So, if you wish, you may design 4s, 5s, or jacks, whichever set you would like. Good luck!

On a side note, Derek, Krystle, slyS, Randy, Kensei, Alex Chin, Moon, and loldudex, how are your cards coming along? If you could start finalizing them, that would be great so we could conclude this project. We need two more artists as well. Any help or advice would be suggested.
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: lumpyliew on August 12, 2012, 05:07:55 AM
Prefer custom box and court cards ( including ace of spades )
Title: Re: Group-made deck of cards? (You can see poll once you have voted)
Post by: Don Boyer on August 12, 2012, 06:24:43 AM
Prefer custom box and court cards ( including ace of spades )

There's a HUGE number of posts here, but you should go through them a little to get a better idea of the deck.  The entire deck is intended to be custom from start to finish, including ALL cards, not just the courts.