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Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2015, 11:49:25 AM »
 

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Has anyone heard anything on this deck? I was interested before and still am.
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Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2015, 01:03:55 PM »
 

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He's revamping his website and the countdown timer says 18 days, that might have something to do with it?

Last I've seen was a comment on his instagram that said EPCC is taking a bit too long to get the cards done.
 

Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2015, 07:00:17 PM »
 

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It can be a nice deck for poker... if it won't be marked.


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Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2015, 08:40:33 PM »
 

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It can be a nice deck for poker... if it won't be marked.

I agree. I wonder if there will be two versions of this.
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Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2015, 01:05:32 PM »
 

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Is anyone any the wiser on this one?
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Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2015, 05:55:36 PM »
 

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I've been trading FB messages with them. They are fixing a glitch on the new website and then will go live with the cards. They are also working on version 2 of the pad and clip.
 

Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2015, 08:56:26 AM »
 

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I noticed Jon changed logo's. I'm wondering if the plan is to still produce the deck the way we originally saw it. The whole back design incorporated his old logo. Strange to switch logo's while you still have product with the old yet to be released.

I am looking forward to this deck as originally designed. Hope that design is still what we are getting.
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Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2015, 11:24:20 PM »
 

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Looks like they're opening for business next week at midnight on Monday morning.  It would be nicer if they had mentioned what time zone...but it's easy enough to infer he's talking about EST in the US/Canada, or 04:00 Mon 13 Apr UTC/GMT.

I noticed Jon changed logo's. I'm wondering if the plan is to still produce the deck the way we originally saw it. The whole back design incorporated his old logo. Strange to switch logo's while you still have product with the old yet to be released.

I am looking forward to this deck as originally designed. Hope that design is still what we are getting.

It's possible that the logo switch coincides with a switch in the deck design.  As you stated, it would seem odd to create one logo, switch it before the official relaunch, then release your merchandise with the OLD logo on it.  In which case, why roll out the new logo now instead of waiting for the old-logo merch to be sold out?
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Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2016, 07:02:33 PM »
 

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Hey Playing Card Forum!

Just wanted to pop in and let you all know that Jon Noir has merged with 52Kards, and we will be launching this deck through Kickstarter on February 1st! The deck has been rebranded and is now called the Black Mint deck. You can find more info and join the waitlist here - http://52kards.com/mint

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Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2016, 08:33:47 PM »
 

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Hey Playing Card Forum!

Just wanted to pop in and let you all know that Jon Noir has merged with 52Kards, and we will be launching this deck through Kickstarter on February 1st! The deck has been rebranded and is now called the Black Mint deck. You can find more info and join the waitlist here - http://52kards.com/mint

I'd be happy to answer any questions about the project.

I forgot about these. I remember having these on my list of decks I wanted to purchase.

What's with the re-branding name "MINT"?

It's not a good name.



 

Re: Jon Noir- Rion
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2016, 12:37:48 PM »
 

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Now Live!!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/52kards/black-mint-playing-cards?ref=card


Any chance we can get a rename on this thread?
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Black Mint Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2016, 05:48:56 PM »
 

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Hey PCF,

We launched the Black Mint deck earlier today on KS and it got completely funded in 39 minutes! Check out the project and let me know what you think of the cards. If they look familiar it's because they used to be called the Rion playing cards from Jon Noir. Jon Noir has merged with 52Kards and we are proud to finally release them as a part of the Mint Collection.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/52kards/black-mint-playing-cards/

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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2016, 03:54:20 AM »
 

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Hey Playing Card Forum!

Just wanted to pop in and let you all know that Jon Noir has merged with 52Kards, and we will be launching this deck through Kickstarter on February 1st! The deck has been rebranded and is now called the Black Mint deck. You can find more info and join the waitlist here - http://52kards.com/mint

I'd be happy to answer any questions about the project.

I forgot about these. I remember having these on my list of decks I wanted to purchase.

What's with the re-branding name "MINT"?

It's not a good name.

I'm glad you don't answer questions. It made the decision easier. :))

Nice to know Kickstarter playing card projects still have 50K potential.
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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2016, 12:38:10 PM »
 

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It's not a bad deck but it's not my cup of tea. I understand there's a market for this type of deck but it blows my mind that most modern minimalist decks fail miserably while this one is almost over $55K  :o
 

Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2016, 09:00:35 PM »
 

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It's not a bad deck but it's not my cup of tea. I understand there's a market for this type of deck but it blows my mind that most modern minimalist decks fail miserably while this one is almost over $55K  :o

For as much time as it took to get this deck ready, its very inconsistent. The back design and court cards are some of the best Ive seen. The aces and name (branding) are not good at all. This would of made an excellent "madison presents" deck, with some DM minimalist changes to it.
 

Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2016, 10:24:42 PM »
 

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It's not a bad deck but it's not my cup of tea. I understand there's a market for this type of deck but it blows my mind that most modern minimalist decks fail miserably while this one is almost over $55K  :o

I can understand that, but there was a wee bit more hype behind this one and that name brand (for whatever that's worth).
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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2016, 12:48:10 PM »
 

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I'm glad to see there's success happening on KS. A lot of decks have struggled lately, some of them have been quite good too. That's something that I've found a little disturbing. Even so, it's nice to see a deck succeeding and being funded well. Overall this is a nice deck in my opinion.
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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2016, 01:08:57 PM »
 

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I'm glad to see there's success happening on KS. A lot of decks have struggled lately, some of them have been quite good too. That's something that I've found a little disturbing. Even so, it's nice to see a deck succeeding and being funded well. Overall this is a nice deck in my opinion.

I like that it's funding because it shows another genre of custom playing cards- the minimalist design- is still alive and well!
 

Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2016, 05:03:14 PM »
 

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Somehow I got a feeling that the alignment on the Limited edition gonna be messed up...
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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2016, 07:01:52 PM »
 

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Somehow I got a feeling that the alignment on the Limited edition gonna be messed up...

I share your feeling in that haha. If things go as they have been, it's a crap shoot on the non-limited border as well. The Bike shop is still churning out more decks than they probably should a day. Will be interesting to see the end result.

I like that it's funding because it shows another genre of custom playing cards- the minimalist design- is still alive and well!

They have a nice classy look to them and I enjoy the image feel the repeating pattern has but in my opinion this doesn't quite fall into the minimalist category. I don't think there is enough negative space on them for that.
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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2016, 08:08:23 PM »
 

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They have a nice classy look to them and I enjoy the image feel the repeating pattern has but in my opinion this doesn't quite fall into the minimalist category. I don't think there is enough negative space on them for that.

I was thinking this as well, this reads more like a casino/classic style deck to me, especially with standardish courts and suits.
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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2016, 06:39:47 PM »
 

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Big update to the project today fellas. We reached our final stretch goal and now the Raspberry Mint deck is unlocked! (see the picture below). Here is a summary of all of the stretch goals we were able to smash through to help us OVER deliver on this project and create the absolute best deck we possibly can.

  • Custom Seal UNLOCKED - Each deck will come with a beautiful seal to fasten the box.
  • Embossed Box UNLOCKED - The box will feature intricate embossed texture.
  • Box Foiling UNLOCKED - shimmering foiled accents to give the box that extra pop.
  • Traditionally Cut cards UNLOCKED - Traditionally cut for perfect faro shuffling.
  • Limited Edition Deck UNLOCKED - The Limited Edition Black Mint is available exclusively to Kickstarter backers. These will not be fore sale after the project campaign is over. They feature a borderless design with an aesthetic gold line pattern.
  • Interior Box Design UNLOCKED - The INSIDE of the box printed with a beautiful foiled Mint pattern. This requires an additional die and an extra step of production, but we think it's well worth it.
  • RASPBERRY MINT UNLOCKED - This is the really BIG one. We hit our $90,000 stretch goal which means we are getting the next edition of The Mint Collection printed now! The tasty Raspberry Mints have all of the same features as the Black Mint deck, but it comes in a beautiful shade of red. Backers of the Kickstarter project will get to decide how many Black Mints and how many Raspberry Mints they would like to get with their pledged money at the end of the campaign. See the photo below to get a preview of the Raspberries!
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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2016, 03:34:34 PM »
 

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Absolutely love the tuck, it's nearly perfect in my perspective, from the gloss black on matte pattern on the back to the minimalistic foiled design with subtle gloss letterpress accent, couldn't look better.

I hate the pips. Each pip has a stylistic 'shadow' that wasn't apparent in any of the pictures of videos throughout the campaign nor shows on the Rion Collection teaser initially, it looks gimmicky and cheap and I am relly disappointed with that design choice. The courts are boring, a little too spartan and mostly black, not really bad, but not good either. The back design is solid, and is exactly as shown, wish it didn't include a marking system because it's obviously not a two way back. But those pips kill the whole thing for me.
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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2016, 08:59:53 AM »
 

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Hi all,

I just received my decks today and I opened a red mint. I have to say they look absolutely gorgeous! I like the red and the back pattern, a red full bleed back would have been nice though ;) I'm also not quite happy with the indices, since they are to far away from the edge and only look mediocre in fans. But this is a problem with new custom deck in general. It's so hard to find a nice custom deck, which also looks nice when fanned. standard faces are still the best looking, in terms of index placement. There is a trend on bigger redesigned indices like KWP decks which just don't look good at all, when fanned >:(
But rant over the cards in total look awesome.

I'm only a little disappointed by the quality of the cards, which can't compete with their design. Does anybody know which stock was used? it says premium and states that its different from bicycle stock, but I thought there is only Bee and bicycle. But the decks definitely handle worse than a standard deck of Bees?
Can anyone confirm this?

cheers
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Re: Black Mint [KS], formerly the Rion Collection from John Noir
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2016, 04:23:40 AM »
 

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Hi all,

I just received my decks today and I opened a red mint. I have to say they look absolutely gorgeous! I like the red and the back pattern, a red full bleed back would have been nice though ;) I'm also not quite happy with the indices, since they are to far away from the edge and only look mediocre in fans. But this is a problem with new custom deck in general. It's so hard to find a nice custom deck, which also looks nice when fanned. standard faces are still the best looking, in terms of index placement. There is a trend on bigger redesigned indices like KWP decks which just don't look good at all, when fanned >:(
But rant over the cards in total look awesome.

I'm only a little disappointed by the quality of the cards, which can't compete with their design. Does anybody know which stock was used? it says premium and states that its different from bicycle stock, but I thought there is only Bee and bicycle. But the decks definitely handle worse than a standard deck of Bees?
Can anyone confirm this?

cheers

USPC has always has issues with stock consistency.  It could very well be Bee Casino stock, but no two batches of Bee Casino stock will have exactly the same characteristics, once they've been made into playing cards.  They do what they can by using humidity control in the storage room where the pasteboard is kept before printing, but in part their hands are tied by variances in the quality of what their paper mills are providing them.  Add to that the fact that they have to use a high post-consumer recycled content and it becomes nearly impossible to make perfectly consistent pasteboard stock of the same quality every single batch.

As far as index size and placement - that's really up to the designer.  Some go for bigger indices, some for smaller.  Bigger are easier on the eyes, smaller are more elegant and look nicer in fans.  You have to take care in terms of how close to the edge you place them - USPC will focus more on centering the backs than on centering the faces when printing and cutting, because the backs are more critical for playability and have to be as identical and radially symmetrical as possible.  So as a safety measure, or simply as a style choice, some designers will make their indices further from the edge than is really necessary for practicality in game play and cardistry.
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