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« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2014, 03:15:37 PM »
 

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Latest Addition To The Collection

Heart's Squeezers No. 352. [NY50 in the Hochman]


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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2014, 11:34:07 AM »
 

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Lee… The card that has "Angel Back" printed on it is an Ad Card?
 

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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2014, 12:05:38 PM »
 

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Lee… The card that has "Angel Back" printed on it is an Ad Card?

It's the Contract Bridge Score Card.

 

Re: Post Your Vintage Collection - Your Newest & Most Prized Acquisitions
« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2014, 08:43:24 AM »
 

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This is my very very small vintage collection. I do have like mid 80s and some other early 90s decks too but didn't know whether to include. I put steamboats there only because, they're steamboats and they're just so cool.
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« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2014, 07:58:08 AM »
 

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Interesting "Squeezer" stamp on the Bee. Looks older than the tax stamp. Can you do a close up?
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« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2014, 09:20:27 AM »
 

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Interesting "Squeezer" stamp on the Bee. Looks older than the tax stamp. Can you do a close up?

Mystery ensues....
 

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« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2014, 11:11:14 AM »
 

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Interesting "Squeezer" stamp on the Bee. Looks older than the tax stamp. Can you do a close up?

Click on his photo and a pop-up window will appear with the photo in it.  Click on that photo and you zoom in.  The image is a little blurry, but still distinguishable.
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« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2014, 04:44:10 PM »
 

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I finally get to post in this thread, at long last (dances like a tween girl at a Bieber concert)

Lee Asher is the reason for this beginning, as this is the FIRST, and second, vintage deck I now own. He was incredible enough to trade the red version and tag on the blue as a traveling buddy. Needless to say, I am a happy camper and I WANT MORE!
 

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« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2014, 08:09:02 AM »
 

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Interesting "Squeezer" stamp on the Bee. Looks older than the tax stamp. Can you do a close up?

Here's a close up of the squeezer stamp.

Also I picked up some 343 Cadets, but they're Canadian. I've never seen anything like this before. Also, it didn't have a tuck, was sent in this little pouch, anyone know if it's of any sigunficance?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2014, 08:11:49 AM by Nurul »
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« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2014, 09:08:12 AM »
 

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Also I picked up some 343 Cadets, but they're Canadian. I've never seen anything like this before. Also, it didn't have a tuck, was sent in this little pouch, anyone know if it's of any sigunficance?

I'm doing a little bit of guesswork here.  The Cadets were so named because they were intended for soldiers who didn't have a lot of room in their pockets and packs for a pack of playing cards.  Plus, it wouldn't surprise me if they needed to be concealed because of some commanders forbidding gambling in the ranks!

Your pouch, marked "Pt. Arthur" was probably owned by a soldier, last name Arthur, ranked Private.  Depending on the date of manufacture, there's even a chance it was carried into a combat zone.
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« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2014, 10:38:08 AM »
 

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Nice stamp! Looks older than I guess it is. Those cadets made around end of WWI and while Don may be right, another possibility  is that that soldiers were a great design to help miniature packs made for kids be marketed as kids toys and games related to war would have been very popular at that time. Of course the cadets brand went back to the late 1800's - Spanish America War!
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« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2014, 07:26:12 PM »
 

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I picked up this Blue Bicycle Club Back deck in the summer for $4.75. Unfortunately it had no tuck box, but the cards were kept in great condition over their lifetime in storage. I like the way their luster and texture is revealed by the light reflecting on these old cards. These also have what I like to call the "sleepy eyed" court cards which are a favorite of mine. I hope to learn the skills to pin a better date on them, but currently I have it dated in my notebook as early 1900s. Let me know if you think differently.
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« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2014, 11:44:43 PM »
 

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I picked up this Blue Bicycle Club Back deck in the summer for $4.75. Unfortunately it had no tuck box, but the cards were kept in great condition over their lifetime in storage. I like the way their luster and texture is revealed by the light reflecting on these old cards. These also have what I like to call the "sleepy eyed" court cards which are a favorite of mine. I hope to learn the skills to pin a better date on them, but currently I have it dated in my notebook as early 1900s. Let me know if you think differently.

That's a great-looking pack you have there!

I'll give you a few tips for discovering the age of your deck.

I looked at the close-up of your photo, specifically at the bottom of the Ace of Spades - the screen grab is below.  That code seems like gibberish, and much of it is, but the letter of that code is a dating system used by USPC for the year the deck was made.

Here's a few links to look at to help with determining the age based on the letter:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+date+uspc+playing+cards&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

The second one down is from Lee Asher, magician and fellow administrator of this forum!  The first one is also worth a look, despite that it won't help with your present deck, but it contains great information for dating a deck of cards based on the tax stamp on the box - valuable knowledge for your next vintage deck, perhaps.

For further narrowing the year down, you can check on what period that back was being used by USPC under the Bicycle brand:
http://www.jimknapp.com/Cards/Bicycle.htm
http://www.cypressfilms.com/Bicycle//Robinson/Robinson.html

Happy hunting, and if you need more tips or advice, feel free to ask.  The only dumb question is the one you don't ask because you were afraid we'd think you were dumb.  We were all beginners once, so we sympathize.  :))
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Re: Post Your Vintage Collection - Your Newest & Most Prized Acquisitions
« Reply #63 on: January 20, 2014, 12:21:47 AM »
 

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See this is where it gets fuzzy for me. I can narrow down the range of years for this deck to be between 1917-1969 and the letter "B" would suggest the year 1921 but the rest of the code doesn't fit the decipherable dating format so I can't assume it means anything. Without a tuck box or a tax stamp I guess I am best left at guessing on the exact age of this Club back deck. I wish there were a source where I could cross reference the court card style or Ace of Spades style and get a more accurate estimate. Until then, It'll just have to fall in to that 52 year range  :-[
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« Reply #64 on: January 20, 2014, 05:32:48 AM »
 

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See this is where it gets fuzzy for me. I can narrow down the range of years for this deck to be between 1917-1969 and the letter "B" would suggest the year 1921 but the rest of the code doesn't fit the decipherable dating format so I can't assume it means anything. Without a tuck box or a tax stamp I guess I am best left at guessing on the exact age of this Club back deck. I wish there were a source where I could cross reference the court card style or Ace of Spades style and get a more accurate estimate. Until then, It'll just have to fall in to that 52 year range  :-[

While modern decks have four digits preceding the letter which correspond to the week and year of manufacture, it's different for older decks - only the letter gives you anything.  And you're fortunate - the letter B was only used once in the entire span of years that deck back was being printed, so you have your year.

There's a way of establishing dates with the courts as well - there was an excellent article in "Clear the Decks" a few issues ago - CtD is the club newsletter of 52 Plus Joker.
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« Reply #65 on: January 20, 2014, 07:50:42 AM »
 

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The code on this deck is meaningless. Needs to be exactly one letter and four numbers to mean anything. From seeing lots of these I'd date it 1905-1920. Without the box hard to get precise.
In next few days we are putting up lots of dating information in The Source.
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Nice stamp! Looks older than I guess it is. Those cadets made around end of WWI and while Don may be right, another possibility  is that that soldiers were a great design to help miniature packs made for kids be marketed as kids toys and games related to war would have been very popular at that time. Of course the cadets brand went back to the late 1800's - Spanish America War!

This is the first time I've seen a squeezer stamp. What kind of date are we talking? Could it mean that the stamp doesn't belong to the deck?
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« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2014, 04:21:07 PM »
 

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Stamp has look/feel of early 1900's. Could well have been earlier than the deck. Not sure!
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« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2014, 03:49:58 AM »
 

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The code on this deck is meaningless. Needs to be exactly one letter and four numbers to mean anything. From seeing lots of these I'd date it 1905-1920. Without the box hard to get precise.
In next few days we are putting up lots of dating information in The Source.

Curses, foiled again!  :)  Thanks for the more accurate info, as usual.

Is it possible that the B isn't really a B but an 8?  I saw on a deck on wopc.com a longer number like this, and the 3rd and 4th digits were the year of manufacture.  But it could have been simple coincidence as well, probably.

Stamp has look/feel of early 1900's. Could well have been earlier than the deck. Not sure!

Could it be possible that the stamp is indeed older than the deck and was simply used some period of time later - perhaps even years later?  Crazier things have happened.

Y'know, an entire topic on those vellum seals could be beneficial, if we have enough research on the topic.
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« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2014, 10:57:52 AM »
 

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This is one of my favorite decks in my collection. I picked it up from Steve Browling while at the 52+ Joker Convention this year.

Congress including the Dundreary Joker. from the late 1800s

This is probably the most easy to get version, but there are also two other joker versions that are even more rare.  One of the other versions has the same version but with slight flesh tones, and then the most rare features one that has an oval border.

The pictures don't show it very well but this set has really nice gold gilded edges.


Jackson and everyone
Interesting note about this deck and box. It is not a Congress box BUT there are many old USPC decks which came in these generic [not brand name] boxes. We suspect this deck originally came in this generic box
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« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2014, 09:07:25 AM »
 

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For those of you who are wondering where the great early US cards posted by plainbacks have gone, we moved them to the Source as an item of permanent, educational interest. The topic is at http://aethercards.com/discourse/the-source-card-collecting-101/ titled Early 19th-Century Anglo-American Face Designs.
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took some digging but I was able to find a AD52 Wireless deck.

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« Reply #72 on: January 25, 2014, 03:11:36 AM »
 

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took some digging but I was able to find a AD52 Wireless deck.

Very nice!  It's how old?

These decks sometimes astonish me.  This deck certainly doesn't appear to have been USPC's top-of-the-line playing cards, but they've managed to survive all this time, and the only thing likely to have changed would be a slight yellowing of the cards' white spaces.  It was obviously not meant to last long at all, yet somehow made it over some decaces and still exists in such excellent shape.
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« Reply #73 on: January 25, 2014, 09:38:05 AM »
 

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took some digging but I was able to find a AD52 Wireless deck.

Very nice!  It's how old?


The picture says 1920. 
 

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« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2014, 09:56:03 AM »
 

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took some digging but I was able to find a AD52 Wireless deck.

Very nice!  It's how old?


The picture says 1920.
The picture does says c[irca]1920. We do know it was produced as late as 1927, and perhaps a little later than that. No way of pinning it down further without careful examination of the tax stamp [if indeed it is there].
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