You are Here:
"Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)

Author (Read 8396 times)

"Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« on: August 13, 2014, 02:29:26 AM »
 

Rob Wright

  • 52 Plus Joker Member
  • Aficionado
  • *
  • 1,363
    Posts
  • Reputation: 98

  • Kickstarter:
Last night I stayed up late playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died.

 Steven Wright
http://neverforgotten.storenvy.com
Facebook- Never Forgotten Project

My Playing Card DB
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2014, 10:51:54 AM »
 

PrincessTrouble

  • Don't Use This!
  • Haven Citizen
  • *
  • 1,255
    Posts
  • Reputation: 23

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:

  • Twitter:
All I can say about this deck is YIKES!
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2014, 11:09:37 AM »
 

Will W.

  • Discourse Veteran
  • *
  • 274
    Posts
  • Reputation: 10
I like it with two exceptions.....

The circle around the indices and the sideways pips....
"I collect these objects to learn from them. In some moment these things are going to teach me something. For me, this is like a library. These are my books."
- Jose Bedia
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2014, 01:43:48 PM »
 

MrMollusk

  • Extraordinaire
  • *
  • 975
    Posts
  • Reputation: 23
  • I like birds.

  • Kickstarter:
I'll be right back after I Lysol my eyes.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2014, 01:56:42 PM »
 

Will W.

  • Discourse Veteran
  • *
  • 274
    Posts
  • Reputation: 10
I'll be right back after I Lysol my eyes.

Thanks for that MrMollusk... I needed a good laugh today.
"I collect these objects to learn from them. In some moment these things are going to teach me something. For me, this is like a library. These are my books."
- Jose Bedia
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2014, 10:25:21 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
Hey guys my name's lex. I am the man behind the cards... I love the fact that there was already a topic about my project!!!!!...  I can not artistically create work loved by every soul but it's still cool. This is my first deck.. feel free to check out some of my paintings... I am in a mechanical phase so that might be my next direction... So I joined this site to get feed back.. I see some and that's great.. Hopfully  my membership here will help me understand the world of playing cards and the people who really love them. With that said I personally see this deck of cards something I created from talent, patience, time and allot of dreaming. My Facebook and instagram show the full process. If you do not like that's cool but I bet you have a family member or friend you know this would make a great gift for... Thanks guys!!!
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2014, 02:18:21 AM »
 

PurpleIce

  • 52 Plus Joker Member
  • Discourse Royalty
  • *
  • 485
    Posts
  • Reputation: 23
Hey guys my name's lex. I am the man behind the cards... I love the fact that there was already a topic about my project!!!!!...  I can not artistically create work loved by every soul but it's still cool. This is my first deck.. feel free to check out some of my paintings... I am in a mechanical phase so that might be my next direction... So I joined this site to get feed back.. I see some and that's great.. Hopfully  my membership here will help me understand the world of playing cards and the people who really love them. With that said I personally see this deck of cards something I created from talent, patience, time and allot of dreaming. My Facebook and instagram show the full process. If you do not like that's cool but I bet you have a family member or friend you know this would make a great gift for... Thanks guys!!!

Hey Lex,
Glad to have you around, while like what you said, there isn't a deck that can please everyone, I do hope you can take some constructive comments around here and improve on the deck. I have some opinions about the deck and i hope it helps.

Like what has been mentioned around here, i'm not too font of the indices and the sideway pips. Also the indices are huge...Although i highly doubt this deck is meant for poker and card games, the indices and pips make it not as functional as it is suppose to be when holding in a fan or peeking.

Secondly, i'm not too fond of the fact you made the ace feel like a court card and the 10s feel like an Ace. Although it could be a new way of approaching things, it just doesnt feel right to me at least.

Also, the 3 pips at the side on the court cards looks redundant. It feels like it is there to fill up an empty space. I also can see that one of the 3 pips are coloured/designed while some are not. It just lacks some consistency and looks messy. If the 3 pips are a part of your concept somehow, i thought it could be better if better use was made out of it? Probably colouring 1 pip for J, 2 for Q and all 3 for K?

And while i like what you did to the number cards, I was thinking you could tone down the shades a little lighter on some the "floral" background to make the actual pips stand out a little more? E.g. It is getting a little hard to see the number of pips on a black high card like 8 or 9 with so much going on.

Lastly, i feel the card back feel very different from the rest of the deck. While the rest of the deck feels more fluid and flowing, the back feels very hard and symmetrical.

I do hope you do not take offense to anything i said. These are just some of my personal opinions. Irregardless, it is still some nice art work there, and i do wish you all the best for your project and hard work.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2014, 04:49:19 AM »
 

Magasaki

  • 52 Plus Joker Member
  • Discourse Lover
  • *
  • 244
    Posts
  • Reputation: 9
I agree with pretty much everything PurpleIce says. The background on the pips is a bit strong so it's hard to see the pips (on the black suits - reds look great), the 10's look like an ace and the ace looks like a court. As far as artwork goes that's all great, as for it being a deck of cards it does somewhat hinder it's functionality. I also would rather not have the numbers circled. With some tweaking I would probably back this as I quite like the artwork, but for me it is still a little unrefined - especially with all the strong competition around.

If the project doesn't meet the kickstarter goal it may be worth re-addressing these aspects and relaunching as a more useable deck of cards. I would also expect to see a tuckbox to go along with the deck.
Collection and Blog - www.magasaki.com
Studio - www.designsharp.co.uk
Blog Facebook - www.facebook.com/magasakicards
Personal Facebook - www.facebook.com/tommajski
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2014, 06:06:58 AM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
This is great! I joined soon after so I could get some feed back and I can still also make some
Changes... I would love to pull backers from this site and also your input will help me design a even better deck next time... So what I have so far is circle around numbers.. black cards look more like ink blots lol... I Will try and post some new version before I do the suit. Thanks again.
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2014, 02:04:03 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
Ok guys I am redoing spades right now.. I will post pics in a couple hrs.. hopefully I am reaching a playing card you will find good to play with and not just art... Also like to say thank you to the backers from this site so far..  one more question ? Excluding art what on the face cards would you like to see changed? Thanks again for any feed back!!!
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2014, 02:10:25 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
Hey guys my name's lex. I am the man behind the cards... I love the fact that there was already a topic about my project!!!!!...  I can not artistically create work loved by every soul but it's still cool. This is my first deck.. feel free to check out some of my paintings... I am in a mechanical phase so that might be my next direction... So I joined this site to get feed back.. I see some and that's great.. Hopfully  my membership here will help me understand the world of playing cards and the people who really love them. With that said I personally see this deck of cards something I created from talent, patience, time and allot of dreaming. My Facebook and instagram show the full process. If you do not like that's cool but I bet you have a family member or friend you know this would make a great gift for... Thanks guys!!!

Hey Lex,
Glad to have you around, while like what you said, there isn't a deck that can please everyone, I do hope you can take some constructive comments around here and improve on the deck. I have some opinions about the deck and i hope it helps.

Like what has been mentioned around here, i'm not too font of the indices and the sideway pips. Also the indices are huge...Although i highly doubt this deck is meant for poker and card games, the indices and pips make it not as functional as it is suppose to be when holding in a fan or peeking.

Secondly, i'm not too fond of the fact you made the ace feel like a court card and the 10s feel like an Ace. Although it could be a new way of approaching things, it just doesnt feel right to me at least.

Also, the 3 pips at the side on the court cards looks redundant. It feels like it is there to fill up an empty space. I also can see that one of the 3 pips are coloured/designed while some are not. It just lacks some consistency and looks messy. If the 3 pips are a part of your concept somehow, i thought it could be better if better use was made out of it? Probably colouring 1 pip for J, 2 for Q and all 3 for K?

And while i like what you did to the number cards, I was thinking you could tone down the shades a little lighter on some the "floral" background to make the actual pips stand out a little more? E.g. It is getting a little hard to see the number of pips on a black high card like 8 or 9 with so much going on.

Lastly, i feel the card back feel very different from the rest of the deck. While the rest of the deck feels more fluid and flowing, the back feels very hard and symmetrical.

I do hope you do not take offense to anything i said. These are just some of my personal opinions. Irregardless, it is still some nice art work there, and i do wish you all the best for your project and hard work.


           I like your ideal for the piping...I will incorporate. Very great ideal thanks for your contribution.. :D
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2014, 02:53:07 AM »
 

Don Boyer

  • VP/Dir. Club Forum/DAC Chair, 52 Plus Joker
  • Administrator
  • Forum Sentinel
  • *
  • 19,161
    Posts
  • Reputation: 415
  • Pick a card, any card...no, not THAT card!

  • Facebook:
Hey, Alex,

Please feel free in the future to use the "quote" feature more often and combine your replies into a single post.  It's easier to understand with all of the referenced quotes included and takes up less space when it's all in a single post.

Ah, PurpleIce, my young Cardawan - you'll make an excellent Card Knight someday!  :))  May the Deck be with you!

Now, back to you, Alex!

I would like you to go back to Kickstarter and search for a deck called Bicycle Amazing Adventures.  Michael Mindes created a deck that I'm rather fond of, and that your deck should be more closely emulating in terms of the design.  Your art's pretty good, but there's so much extraneous stuff in the way we can barely make it out in the mess.  Compare that to the courts in Amazing Adventures - the steampunk outfits are clear and easy to distinguish, there's a lot of negative space to allow the artwork to really shine, the cards don't have giant title flags getting in the way of the lovely artwork and the cards are of a standardized design layout from suit to suit.  Better still, the spot cards are unique but familiar in their design, so people adapt to using the deck very quickly.  I'm less of a fan of the typeface used in the indices, but everything else is spot-on.  The back design is perfectly suited to the deck's theme.

Now, look at your deck.  Strip away the unnecessary line work and pips that serve only to clutter the design.  Take your anime character and see if you can make them two-way designs - the only two-way design I'm seeing in the whole deck is one of the two jokers - and jokers are rarely two-way in a pack of cards!  Take those indices, use an easier-to-read typeface and size them so your artwork isn't "crushed" by them taking up so much room.  Make the indices a standard width (if you aren't using a custom font, adjust the kerning to make it so) and make the value letter or number twice as tall as the suit pip.  If you're really in love with your spot card designs, follow the example of the red cards - make the pips black with the curlicues and such around them in RED, so they'll match thematically and stand out a lot more.  A faded shade of red would work exceptionally well.  Think of a better back design, and for the card gods' sake, ditch the plastic box!  Get a real tuck box - even a blank white one with a window is better than those plastic THINGS, which are better suited for decks sold at cheap roadside souvenir stands all along the East Coast, right next to the postcards and the salt water taffy!  If you can do a custom box, fantastic!  I just read a little deeper and see you're making a custom box.  This begs the question, "Why the hell are you showing plastic boxes AT ALL?!?"  They're NOT part of the finished product, but people will assume as much because you put them there.

Check your project's home page for a few things:
  • You should have black bars on the "pinup" deck from the 1950s as well as the nude version of your design.  Kids do wander through KS all the time and parents would be less than pleased to hear you're exposing them to pornography.  For the same reasons, remove all of your videos and replace them with PG-rated versions or nothing at all.
  • Check your spelling!  "Heroin" is a dangerous narcotic made from poppy plants while "heroine" is a heroic female lead character!
  • Have someone proofread your project for grammatical errors.  If you're not a native English speaker or didn't develop writing skills in school, you're not alone - hire professional help!
  • The little joker from the "swim" deck is flashing a boob and looks like it belongs in the unrated version of this deck!
  • Did you know the link to your Facebook page is dead over at the KS project page?

Please take everything I've said here as a) constructive criticism, since I really like seeing deck designs go from decent to great with the right amount of tweaking, and b) with a grain of salt, as these are the opinions of one man - I have some experience consulting for playing card designers, but in the end these are my opinions and they may fly directly in the face of what you're trying to accomplish with your deck.  Feel free to cherry-pick or utterly ignore anything and everything I've said.

As with any aspect of design, there are rules and you can break the rules - but not simply if you're breaking them for no good reason, or worse, out of a lack of awareness.  Break the rules infrequently at most, know the reasons why you're breaking them and insure that they make sense, not just to you but to anyone you want to be interested in your work.

EDIT: on the Queen of Clubs and the Queen of Diamonds, It's "Divine", not "Devine".  Divine would be something of the heavens or that is exquisite and beautiful, while Devine - it it existed as anything other than a proper noun or family name - would probably be the act of removing vines from a specific place...
« Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 03:02:02 AM by Don Boyer »
Card Illusionist, NYC Area
Playing Card Design & Development Consultant
Deck Tailoring: Custom Alterations for Magicians and Card Mechanics
Services for Hire - http://thedecktailor.com/
Pre-Made Decks for Sale - http://donboyermagic.com/
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2014, 04:01:11 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
So far.
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2014, 04:04:46 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
working on clubs and spades at the moment. I do have tuck box designs I will update Kickstarter and this thread as soon as I am done. Thanks!!
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2014, 04:07:21 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
Hearts.
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2014, 09:50:33 PM »
 

Don Boyer

  • VP/Dir. Club Forum/DAC Chair, 52 Plus Joker
  • Administrator
  • Forum Sentinel
  • *
  • 19,161
    Posts
  • Reputation: 415
  • Pick a card, any card...no, not THAT card!

  • Facebook:
A few tips.

Use the same typeface on the numbers on the court cards as well.  You can make an art deck that looks pretty AND make it highly functional at the same time.  If a deck is too difficult to use, people will stop using it - or worse, not buy it in the first place.

Make the index pips red for the hearts and diamonds, especially since they're red in the middle of the card.

Are you aware that your indices for the hearts look like you're marking the cards as spades?  A heart, colored black and inverted, looks a LOT more like a spade than a heart.
Card Illusionist, NYC Area
Playing Card Design & Development Consultant
Deck Tailoring: Custom Alterations for Magicians and Card Mechanics
Services for Hire - http://thedecktailor.com/
Pre-Made Decks for Sale - http://donboyermagic.com/
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2014, 10:30:56 PM »
 

Rose

  • Discourse Royalty
  • *
  • 494
    Posts
  • Reputation: 29

  • DeviantArt:
I like it with two exceptions.....

The circle around the indices and the sideways pips....
I was thinking the same thing, the circles are unnecessary, but whoa looks like a lot of work and effort has gone into this, the creative part in the middle of the numbers (although slightly unreadable) is actually a style I like, Well Done! A tattoo Deck I like.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 10:33:13 PM by Rose »
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2014, 11:50:36 AM »
 

sprouts1115

  • 52 Plus Joker Member
  • Discourse Deity
  • *
  • 502
    Posts
  • Reputation: 9

  • Facebook:
@alexanderliss - It's great that you are taking in some of the suggestions, but I think you compromised your deck a little to much.  Yes, your deck is now functional, but I did like your original pips.  Not the indices with the circle, but the artwork in the middle.  Your indices now are a bit boring.  If you could come up with a indices like this guy did it would be nice.  Also, as a suggestion if you could make the back of your card like in the same style as your pips and "2-way" meaning a mirror image that would also look nice.  Right now it seems your back of card is a bit to simple with your talents and it's "1-way"  In your courts, it's great they are "2-way", but you need to have a better transition from one side of the card to the other.   Your KoD has a good transition, but do you really want the diamonds to be black?
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 11:55:23 AM by sprouts1115 »
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2014, 11:52:53 AM »
 

Will W.

  • Discourse Veteran
  • *
  • 274
    Posts
  • Reputation: 10
@alexanderliss - It's great that you are taking in some of the suggestions, but I think you compromised your deck a little to much.  Yes, your deck is now functional, but I did like your original pips.  Not the indices with the circle, but the artwork in the middle.  Your indices now are a bit boring.  If you could come up with a indices like this guy did it would be nice.  Also, as a suggestion if you could make the back of your card like in the same style as your pips and "2-way" meaning a mirror image that would also look nice.  Right now it seems your back of card is a bit to simple with your talents and it's "1-way"  In your courts, it's great they are "2-way", but you need to have a better transition from one side of the card to the other.

100% AGREE !
"I collect these objects to learn from them. In some moment these things are going to teach me something. For me, this is like a library. These are my books."
- Jose Bedia
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2014, 04:16:53 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
Ok this is what it is looking like.
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2014, 04:18:14 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
Face cards.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 04:19:54 PM by alexanderliss »
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2014, 04:18:56 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
hearts.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 04:19:35 PM by alexanderliss »
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2014, 04:20:45 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
Face cards.
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2014, 04:21:36 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
diamonds
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 04:22:42 PM by alexanderliss »
Art Art Art.
 

Re: "Battle Spades" Tattooed anime girls pinup style (KS)
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2014, 04:33:13 PM »
 

alexanderliss

  • True Member
  • *
  • 42
    Posts
  • Reputation: 1

  • Facebook:

  • Kickstarter:
clubs.
Art Art Art.