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« on: July 20, 2014, 07:15:26 PM »
 

Cryptocard27

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Have you antique photos where we see antique playing cards but where we can recognize the maker or the name of the deck ?

I begin with two :

1 :  A young woman has in her hand four antique American Kalamazoo aces.

2 : Three men play poker with an antique Bicycle deck, Expert (or Old Fan?) back.

Now it is your turn.. Thank you in advance to everyone who will participate  ;)
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Re: Old playing cards photos
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 03:22:08 AM »
 

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Have you antique photos where we see antique playing cards but where we can recognize the maker or the name of the deck ?

I begin with two :

1 :  A young woman has in her hand four antique American Kalamazoo aces.

2 : Three men play poker with an antique Bicycle deck, Expert (or Old Fan?) back.

Now it is your turn.. Thank you in advance to everyone who will participate  ;)

There's an entire book of photos like these, only recently released.  I think Larry Lubliner wrote it.  I'm pretty sure it's for sale at dananddave.com.

BTW: the subjects of the photos would never have called them "antique" at the time the photo was actually taken.  You could, in theory, call EVERYTHING you see in the photos "antique" if you think about it, so why call any of them antique?  :))

After a close examination of the image scans, I'm thinking that the deck used in the second photo was the Expert Back rather than the Old Fan Back.  My reasoning is that, while the resolution of the scan isn't high enough for a great amount of detail, it is plainly visible that the images in the corners of the deck back design are perfectly round, as you would find in the Expert Back, and not more "oval"/fan-shaped as you would find in the Old Fan Back.
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 07:48:22 AM »
 

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Have you antique photos where we see antique playing cards but where we can recognize the maker or the name of the deck ?

I begin with two :

1 :  A young woman has in her hand four antique American Kalamazoo aces.

2 : Three men play poker with an antique Bicycle deck, Expert (or Old Fan?) back.

Now it is your turn.. Thank you in advance to everyone who will participate  ;)
This is a great idea. I think we have a few and will check around our albums over the next week or so.
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Re: Old playing cards photos
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2014, 02:49:16 PM »
 

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Here's a fun one...
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Re: Old playing cards photos
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Here's a fun one...

Oooh, the Big Bicycle deck!  Nice!
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2014, 11:32:39 AM »
 

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Here's a fun one...

Very nice pix!! Thank you for your participation Joseph ;)
Here is one other than I found recently, maybe a Samuel Hart Pinochle deck ?
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 12:13:59 PM »
 

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Very nice pix!! Thank you for your participation Joseph ;)
Here is one other than I found recently, maybe a Samuel Hart Pinochle deck ?

Not pinochle.  Among the cards on the table are a two and a four.  Poker deck, more likely. Maybe bridge, but the size looks more like poker.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2014, 11:12:05 PM »
 

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That is a wonderful photograph. I wonder if the layout of the cards can be identified as a specific game. Solitaire? Fortune telling? Whatever it is, she clearly does not approve!
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2014, 05:00:24 PM »
 

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Here is an official portrait of Andrew Dougherty, a major manufacturer of Antique Playing Cards in the United States.
I hope you enjoy it!

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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2014, 04:32:57 PM »
 

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Cynthia Kuber Herbst, heiress and wife of Theodore Herbst, with KEM Cameo cards.  Mr. Herbst bought control of KEM cards around 1937.  Claimed in one book to be the face on the KEM ace of spades.



 

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2014, 04:37:45 PM »
 

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These are fantastic images!!! The Andrew Dougherty pic is superb!!! Thank you for sharing.

While it's not that old, here's Groucho Marx and a contestant on YOU BET YOUR LIFE holding jumbo sized rider back 808s.



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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2014, 09:34:01 AM »
 

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These are fantastic images!!! The Andrew Dougherty pic is superb!!! Thank you for sharing.

While it's not that old, here's Groucho Marx and a contestant on YOU BET YOUR LIFE holding jumbo sized rider back 808s.



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I am quite sure the 'contestant' is none other than the famous bridge expert Charles Goren. Marx was know for his passion for bridge.
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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2014, 09:36:09 AM »
 

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I am quite sure the 'contestant' is none other than the famous bridge expert Charles Goren. Marx was know for his passion for bridge.

The Getty website says the 'contestant' is Sanita Pelkey. Did Mr. Goren have an alias?
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2014, 09:51:33 AM »
 

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I am quite sure the 'contestant' is none other than the famous bridge expert Charles Goren. Marx was know for his passion for bridge.

The Getty website says the 'contestant' is Sanita Pelkey. Did Mr. Goren have an alias?

It's mis-titled.  The very next image at the Getty website shows Groucho with a woman in a lovely sweater - she's described as Sanita Pelkey, Moulin Rouge showgirl.

http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/pictured-groucho-marx-and-moulon-rouge-showgirl-sanita-news-photo/138375902
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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2014, 11:22:24 AM »
 

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The 'lovely sweater' certainly isn't Charles Goren!
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2014, 11:27:42 AM »
 

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The 'lovely sweater' certainly isn't Charles Goren!
This is Charles Goren.
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This is Charles Goren.

I guess that would make more sense than Sanita Pelkey. Especially seeing as how Mr. Goren is holding 13 cards.
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The 'lovely sweater' certainly isn't Charles Goren!
This is Charles Goren.

That's a match, for certain!
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2014, 06:05:19 AM »
 

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These are fantastic images!!! The Andrew Dougherty pic is superb!!! Thank you for sharing.

While it's not that old, here's Groucho Marx and a contestant on YOU BET YOUR LIFE holding jumbo sized rider back 808s.



Image attribution given here.

Thank you Lee!
I am happy that you appreciated the Dougherty pic. The "Jumbo" and others on gettyimages are really fun :)
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Here are two other antique photos where we can see the decks that are used :

- The first one shows two men with a Bicycle #808 Pneumatic back nฐ1 (c1894) in their hands.
- The second depicts a woman covered with Andrew Dougherty cards : the first Outing #17 (Hochman AD29, c1892) with a Buffalo back.
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Those are great Maxime. Thanks for posting them.
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Those are great Maxime. Thanks for posting them.

Thank you Tom :)  Just a quick last one in this holiday season : a quiet card game with Kalamazoo Playing Card Co. (c1906)
 

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« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2014, 06:51:42 PM »
 

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Do you think you could identify the deck on this photo please Tom ? I thought that the design of the Ace of spades looked like a little of a Caterson model or L29/L41 for the black border but I couldn't find an exact version in the Hochman.
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Do you think you could identify the deck on this photo please Tom ? I thought that the design of the Ace of spades looked like a little of a Caterson model or L29/L41 for the black border but I couldn't find an exact version in the Hochman.
Hi Cryptocard
Joyeux Noel - I think it is Bay State SU26 but I can't be sure.
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Do you think you could identify the deck on this photo please Tom ? I thought that the design of the Ace of spades looked like a little of a Caterson model or L29/L41 for the black border but I couldn't find an exact version in the Hochman.
Hi Cryptocard
Joyeux Noel - I think it is Bay State SU26 but I can't be sure.

Thank you Tom! I hope that N๖el was joyful for you too. Indeed, the SU26 is very similar and even if it's not sure, I did not find better than that. Another pleasant photo (or photo montage?) for this beginning of year : a game of cards with an antique Star Back.
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