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The Conversation Parlor / Re: What drives the prices of cards?
« on: October 02, 2018, 10:32:51 AM »
It's been a long time since i posted anything, but i would just like to get some thoughts on this topic.

Recently as i was going through my collection and cleaning it up, I came across a deck of Bicycle Full Moon.
As a collector, i think the special/limited edition is quite cool. Lenticular lens, (which fits the theme of a man turning into a werewolf), USPC printed, Bicycle branded, custom foil, limited to 1,500 decks...etc
A quick search on ebay and a deck costs about $20-30USD max?

Off the top of my head, i can think of:
Bicycle Titanic has individual seals containing information of each passenger.
Seven seas by brain vessel where four decks make up a beautiful mural.
Run Decks with hard neck and shoulder cases.
Simple changes but thought differently. I have over 5000+ decks or more in my collection so i would say i have seen enough to make a judgement.

So many unique decks, so many designers trying out new experiments. Yet a deck of fontaine colour change of 15,000 decks is $50-100 or sometimes even more? Don't get me wrong, i don't set the prices and i am happy to make (or have made 8) ) money out of the stacks of existing fontaines that i have. But i probably won't buy them off the market if i missed out on an edition. I've seen people (even more so than last time) do a colour change and slap a limited edition to sell more decks.

I'm just more curious to why are people forking out this absurd amount for a colour change? The stock/finish? The marketing? Or simply a fear of missing out (FOMO) because everyone else has a deck? If its cardistry we are talking about, then i believe there are lots of nicer/simpler looking backs in the market?  :-\ :-\ :mindf-ck:

There's exactly one thing and one thing only that drives the price of a deck of playing cards, particularly in the post-retail market: what the buyer is willing to pay for them, period, end of story.

I personally find the Fontaines to be as boring as watching paint dry.  The entire deck was supposedly bragged about by Zach Mueller for being designed in all of fifteen minutes.  I find garden-variety Aviators to be more interesting - and they're as generic as a deck design gets.  The color changes to the back design are even worse - thirty seconds to move a color slider in Photoshop and BAM, new limited edition deck.  That's not designing, in my opinion - that's just plain lazy, and I don't reward lazy with my money.  I'll grant that it's clever marketing, sure - but still lazy design.

But there are people out there who chase after the rarity, who want what's popular, and who are willing to pay the premium to get it.  Those Zach Mueller fans that can afford it are happy enough to spend all that money on post-retail Fontaines - and more power to them.  It means that fewer people are chasing after (and driving up the prices of) much better decks that I'm much fonder of!

Ah!! Boyer!! I've been out of action for a year or 2 and i missed you and your comments.   :D :D :D

I just find it kind of sad that i listed few hundred unique decks on a selling platform, and i just keep getting asked about the same few decks. Some i feel are great like DB's Gatorbacks, or those from KWP. But more often than not, it is as what you said, those "boring" decks with probably much more greater emphasis on marketing. I just wished there was a better price grading for playing cards.

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The Conversation Parlor / What drives the prices of cards?
« on: September 29, 2018, 11:09:44 AM »
It's been a long time since i posted anything, but i would just like to get some thoughts on this topic.

Recently as i was going through my collection and cleaning it up, I came across a deck of Bicycle Full Moon.
As a collector, i think the special/limited edition is quite cool. Lenticular lens, (which fits the theme of a man turning into a werewolf), USPC printed, Bicycle branded, custom foil, limited to 1,500 decks...etc
A quick search on ebay and a deck costs about $20-30USD max?

Off the top of my head, i can think of:
Bicycle Titanic has individual seals containing information of each passenger.
Seven seas by brain vessel where four decks make up a beautiful mural.
Run Decks with hard neck and shoulder cases.
Simple changes but thought differently. I have over 5000+ decks or more in my collection so i would say i have seen enough to make a judgement.

So many unique decks, so many designers trying out new experiments. Yet a deck of fontaine colour change of 15,000 decks is $50-100 or sometimes even more? Don't get me wrong, i don't set the prices and i am happy to make (or have made 8) ) money out of the stacks of existing fontaines that i have. But i probably won't buy them off the market if i missed out on an edition. I've seen people (even more so than last time) do a colour change and slap a limited edition to sell more decks.

I'm just more curious to why are people forking out this absurd amount for a colour change? The stock/finish? The marketing? Or simply a fear of missing out (FOMO) because everyone else has a deck? If its cardistry we are talking about, then i believe there are lots of nicer/simpler looking backs in the market?  :-\ :-\ :mindf-ck:

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+1 Nurul

Not too sure if people still go through this testimonials, but great seller.

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I already got mine from Nurul. Great seller, would recommend him.

Thanks.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Golden Gatorbacks (probably Metallux?)
« on: November 25, 2016, 03:59:01 AM »
If these are priced like MetalLuxe decks, they're likely to go for no less than $20-25 a pack.  They're pretty sweet-looking, that's for certain.

They are out now at $20/pack, but with additional 20% off for Black Friday.

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Looking for this set preferably new and mint.

Drop me a msg if you have 1 that you are willing to let go.

Thanks

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Playing Card Plethora / 5th & Laurel Playing Cards
« on: May 03, 2016, 04:35:11 AM »





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Please accept my heartfelt condolences to you and your family, Judy. My thoughts are with you.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Dapper Deck by Vanishing Inc Magic
« on: December 29, 2015, 04:12:05 AM »
The dapper base colors are navy blue or, for more of a punch, Jerry's Nugget Orange.

Jerry's Nugget Orange?

The latest colour on the colour chart.  :P

Back to the deck though, I don't know why but when i see Dapper Deck, i somehow expected to see this, and quite like this.
Not so much the tuck box, but i do like the back. I do hope a little more can be done to the courts though.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Freaky Deaky Playing Cards (KS)
« on: September 04, 2015, 12:30:34 AM »
The huge pips on the aces look like they are drawn using paint by a 3YO kid handling a mouse for the first time. I think the back has too huge a border

I don't understand why are there so many people adding horrible backgrounds to their design.
Sometimes less is more....

And why are there different number of pips across the courts? is there a reason for that or just random?

There really should not be such simple design flaws if your are putting any effort into something.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: EGYPTIAN GLYPHS (KS)
« on: September 04, 2015, 12:17:13 AM »
The artwork is not fantastic but the courts seem quite "fun" to me. But i agree and will never ever consider pledging with that horrible background. Even a plain white background is much better than that.

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Isn't this a KS project for 1 deck, but packaged to sell the leftovers from the previous projects?

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2 more H1 and 3 more K1 slots opening up at 1800 Central. This will be your chance to get some of the Legacy editions of you missed th first run of tiers

And it was gone within 3 seconds... I missed that again...

It's not today? Seriously put a date in the update....Spare some thoughts for international customers receiving the email at 4am in the morning and not knowing which day is "later in the day"  :(

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I like more Tally Ho out there - but I'm missing the more traditional faces as well as some of the classic back designs.  Most people don't even realize the numerous different TH backs that were made over the years - they see Circle Back and Fan Back and think that's the end of it.

To my knowledge, I only know (Apart from the different colour TH and Titanium TH)
1. Viper TH
2. Split Spades TH
3. KW TH
4. Scarlett
5. Emerald
6. British Monarchy TH
7. Spectrum TH

What else do I miss?

I have 42 different unique Tally Ho decks and I am sure i do not have them all

Could you list them? I don't even have that much, if we are not counting colour variations.
Apart from those listed, I know Aloy's Studio have the 2 sets of 7 coloured Tally Ho.....and not much else  :(

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And if any body is thinking of cancelling their pledge for the legacy deck please tell me !!

It's gonna be a mad dash when that happens. I overslept (well..it was like 1am for me) missed out the legacy and MMD#4. Bad day for me.

I am guessing there should be a third and probably fourth. Quite similar to the Ornates deck, most probably a "sapphire-coloured" Tally-Ho and probably one more. I am guessing Topaz, but then again yellow is already out. And i am sure he has more family members to make it for as well...  :P

It's just a guess for now though....

The price tag certainly is higher on these, but with the low print-run, all those different metallic inks (three I think?), special numbered seals, gilding and so on, he's paying through the nose himself.

I'm in for a few just as with the Scarletts. And I tend to stick to my "no deck for more than $10" rule pretty strictly. That's how much I enjoy these decks.

If i had the "no deck for more than $10" rule for KS projects, I probably won't be buying anything anymore. I do have a "don't buy decks that look ugly" rule though...and with more recent times, "don't buy minimalist decks that takes 15 minutes to complete" rule :P

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Hey guys,

I managed to miss out on the latest MMD #4 uncut sheet and really really want it. Let me know if any of you guys wanna sell or trade it for something else.

Thanks.

Just to be clear, you're referring to "Magicians Must Die" from De'vo/Handlordz, right?  Number four literally came out less than a full day ago.

Yes, i am refering to Magicians Must Die MMD#4. It came out less than a full day ago and is sold out when i got to the site. That's why i am posting it here, to see if anyone manages to get it with intention of selling or trading.  :( :( :(

Heartbroken to see a framed 1,2,3 uncut sheet without a 4...my comic is incomplete...  :( :(

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Hey guys,

I managed to miss out on the latest MMD #4 uncut sheet and really really want it. Let me know if any of you guys wanna sell or trade it for something else.

Thanks.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Scarlett Tally-Ho No.13 by KWP (KS)
« on: April 23, 2015, 11:23:53 PM »
There's some here if anyone is interested. A real bargain, so don't miss out
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scarlett-Tally-Ho-Playing-Cards-Gold-Gilded-Limited-Display-Decks-Kings-Wild-/111652843441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ff072fb1

WOW!
I only have $899 in my paypal account, so I'm out  :-[ .......... :)

Holy cow....i'm selling mine when i get them! And i'll sell for $899!!!  :P :P

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The Conversation Parlor / Packing Playing Cards O.O
« on: April 20, 2015, 10:30:32 AM »
Just saw this on my fb page, and thought i just share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fNrIg2pxd8

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Playing Card Plethora / Glassback Playing Cards: Primary Edition
« on: April 14, 2015, 10:13:13 PM »
Glassback Playing Cards: Primary Edition
by Simon Bruno

LIVE!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/170389235/glassback-playing-cards-primary-edition








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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Impressions Foil deck
« on: April 13, 2015, 10:56:02 PM »
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/makeplayingcards/impressions-foil-playing-cards/?ref=kicktraq

Next deck using impressions technology from MPC. This time with foiled backs. I just wish they'd do a nice tuckbox than giant MPC lettering they have been using.

It is their own branding after all. They could very well be the next "Bicycle" where everyone wants to put it on their custom decks. It is always good to see them push technology and keep trying new stuff, and i say they are on the right track. It may not be the best designed deck, but it is more of a showcase of the different stuff they can do to a deck of cards.

On a side note though, i do not have a good impression of MPC's customer service and shipping cost from their website. I'll just stick to their KS projects if i am really interested.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: RE Handcrafted - Victoria Playing Cards
« on: April 13, 2015, 10:48:10 PM »
http://www.rehandcrafted.com/#!playing-cards/c1o1a

maybe more direct?

Much better, thanks.  They do look pretty cool and at $10 a pack they're not overly expensive.

The deck is not overly priced. But the shipping is....  :(

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Signature Decks
« on: April 13, 2015, 10:44:29 PM »
I actually have several signed decks. Being from the buy two camp- one to open- one to display. I have mine signed on the cello. Like ecNate, it's only meaningful to me, because I have no plans of selling them.
One thing I try not do, is pay for a signature. I think it's funny when someone on KS wants to charge extra for a signature.

I totally agree. I never get why do people have to pay for an autograph. If it really is that much effort to grab a marker and sign, then i rather not have it.

With regards on the "value" of the deck, it also depends on who is signing those decks. A new designer's signature might not worth as much as an established magician. But ultimately, it is all in the mindset of a collector. I personally think, never get a signed deck if you have to pay for it or expect it to increase in value. Get it only if it has value to you personally.


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The Conversation Parlor / Re: Black Club products and downloads
« on: April 13, 2015, 12:12:22 AM »
They are offering the uncut sheet of gold arcanes, not the deck. Also, after you sign up, you can always buy the gold artifice at $25 again.

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