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VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« on: May 18, 2017, 04:54:02 AM »
 

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Hello all

I have just come across this forum today (apologies for the somewhat late arrival to this party) and would like to introduce my new playing card company, VERTEX DECK.

We have invented a new type of playing card, VXD playing cards, which in summary allow flashy customisation and an addition layer of artwork on the FRONTS of the playing card, while maintaining the traditional ink artwork 100% and also maintaining very good overall handling.

For any who would like to view a video and see images of this first edition we have produced, please see the following link to the Kickstarter campaign, which is about 9 days in and has 25 days remaining live:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zeedog/vertex-deck-vxd-las-vegas-edition

All the best and I hope to get involved here now on this forum.

Thank you.
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Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2017, 03:43:23 AM »
 

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Hello all

I have just come across this forum today (apologies for the somewhat late arrival to this party) and would like to introduce my new playing card company, VERTEX DECK.

We have invented a new type of playing card, VXD playing cards, which in summary allow flashy customisation and an addition layer of artwork on the FRONTS of the playing card, while maintaining the traditional ink artwork 100% and also maintaining very good overall handling.

For any who would like to view a video and see images of this first edition we have produced, please see the following link to the Kickstarter campaign, which is about 9 days in and has 25 days remaining live:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zeedog/vertex-deck-vxd-las-vegas-edition

All the best and I hope to get involved here now on this forum.

Thank you.

Are you a playing card manufacturer?  Where are you located?  What previous experience do you have in playing card manufacturing, if any?
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Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 05:40:16 AM »
 

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Hello there Don

Yes we are a brand new playing card company, VERTEX DECK. We do not use any of the normal playing card manufacturers such as USPCC or EPC or Cartamundi etc.

We have a very specialist factory in Germany that is primarily engaged in producing ID / security cards and high-end packaging for major commercial brands. It took years to find a factory that was able to deliver our specification. We searched China, UK, USA before we found our factory and then did testing and sampling for about 2 years before launch.

This new type of playing card just couldn't be made at USPCC, EPC or the rest....what we've done is unique....and patented (as you may have noticed on the video and KS description).

I hope you like the look of them so far. I'm looking forward to people receiving them and reviewing them.

Regards


 

Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2017, 09:15:00 AM »
 

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Some bonus amateur footage taken just now at home with one of my units.

https://youtu.be/E-mOfpoq4HY

 

Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2017, 12:23:13 AM »
 

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I'd be interested to know how the cards handle.  Clearly the coating is nothing like what's used at companies like USPC.  None of the videos presented so far show the glide and slip characteristics of the cards.
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Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2017, 10:26:34 AM »
 

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I know this information might come too late, but I'll point out something that caught my eye right away.

Whether the stripes are horizontal or vertical, the star field on the US flag should always be on the top left. Your pips on the aces are backwards.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+display+a+flag

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Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2017, 05:26:20 PM »
 

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I cannot wait for people to get the cards in their hands and especially cardists. I'm not a cardist so it's not going to be easy for me to show on any half-decently produced video. The proof will well and truly be in the pudding on this one. It will blow all gold-foiled decks out of the water, hands-down.

I shall await acknowledgment of that. In the meantime, I may actually get a professional cardist to demonstrate for us on a video and in a appropriately lit room.
 

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2017, 05:28:01 PM »
 

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Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2017, 06:03:04 PM »
 

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I can (of course) tell that the flag is rotated 90ยบ. That's not how the flag should be displayed. The deck is Stars & Stripes, so I made the assumption your goal was somewhat patriotic.

Of the first 20 images on the link you sent me, 17 of them are different than yours. The image you chose to highlight was not from a US site. If the flag is open to interpretation, then I guess so. :/

I am proof that some people will notice this. Some who notice might take offense. I don't; some might.

Just bringing it to your attention.
 

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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2017, 01:02:31 AM »
 

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I guess this will have to be part of this first edition's 'quirk' or 'charm' then, if that's the case. I shall be sure to prepare myself for being arrested at the airport.

Joking aside, thanks for the observation, Skinny.

Do you like the look of the new tech? Is that of interest to you? As said, I am looking forward to the reviews of the handling on this very 'flash' deck and looking forward to getting it shown off by a talented cardist!

Any cardists volunteering? (a free deck would find it's way to you shortly) ;)

Regards
 

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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2017, 06:48:23 AM »
 

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I guess this will have to be part of this first edition's 'quirk' or 'charm' then, if that's the case. I shall be sure to prepare myself for being arrested at the airport.

It's a sign of respect to a US patriotic symbol to treat it in the manner it's meant to be treated.  While some may or may not be offended, it does show a glaring lack of knowledge about the subject matter of your deck.

You might consider correcting the design before going to print - you haven't printed the decks yet, right?  Because if you had, you'd be in violation of Kickstarter's terms of service, which require that project creators use their funds for the creation of their project, thus can't sell pre-made projects that have already been created...
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Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2017, 08:05:17 AM »
 

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You another look at the KS video:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zeedog/vertex-deck-vxd-las-vegas-edition

You'll notice that all the standard spade pips holographics also do not conform to the rules of the flag. Then take a look at the stars and also the stripes on the blue and red metal cases...they also do not conform.

Do not try to suggest I am disrespecting any flag / tradition / country or whatever else. It is art!

As to your veiled accusation regarding KS rules and my printing....totally baseless. What are your motivations for such an accusation I wonder.

Based on the negativity and the accusations, I can see I'm not welcome here. So I will no longer post.

 

Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2017, 11:06:13 AM »
 

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I think Don is suggesting that, since they haven't been printed yet (we know they haven't been printed yet, as the funding hasn't been completed), there is time to make a change (if you want).

Depending on the current stage of production, it should be pretty easy to do (if you want).

I didn't say "You're a disrespectful America hater!" and Don didn't say "You've already printed, cheater!" The things we've said have been an attempt to be helpful, seriously.

Please continue to post. You have brought something new to our obvious area of interest and that's always welcome.
 

Re: VXD Mk1: Las Vegas Edition
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2017, 12:10:02 AM »
 

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You another look at the KS video:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zeedog/vertex-deck-vxd-las-vegas-edition

You'll notice that all the standard spade pips holographics also do not conform to the rules of the flag. Then take a look at the stars and also the stripes on the blue and red metal cases...they also do not conform.

Do not try to suggest I am disrespecting any flag / tradition / country or whatever else. It is art!

As to your veiled accusation regarding KS rules and my printing....totally baseless. What are your motivations for such an accusation I wonder.

Based on the negativity and the accusations, I can see I'm not welcome here. So I will no longer post.

You clearly need to take a nice, deep breath and relax a little.

So all of your spade pips with flag images do not conform to the rules for displaying an American flag.  You can call that art, sure.  I won't deny you your right to do so - I don't know what country you're in, but America is a relatively free country with a fairly liberal policy towards free expression.  But there may be people who would take offense, or who at the very least would think you don't know enough about your subject to display it correctly.  Why risk losing even a single sale over something so small and easily corrected, especially when you haven't printed your decks yet?  Are you that married to the design as it is that you're unwilling to make any modifications?

Did anyone, myself included, accuse you of violating Kickstarter rules?  Or did we simply point out that, as you're not in violation of Kickstarter rules and haven't yet printed your decks, you have time to make a correction that might just increase your sales by a few decks?

You're free to post or not post - it's entirely up to you.  We prefer that all people here, deck producers and deck collectors, freely express themselves in a respectful manner - and agreeing with everything that's said by any person isn't mandatory.  If everyone agreed with everyone here, this place would get dull fast.  A truly professional designer needs to have a thick skin when it comes to critiques of their work and be willing to hear what the buying public has to say.  We'd prefer to hear you address what people have to say about your work rather than getting defensive, but if you'd rather not talk to potential customers, that's your decision.

As far as me personally, I'm not a huge fan of the overall design of this deck, but I'm very intrigued by the manufacturing process and its potential for other projects.  It looks like you could potentially become the next popular deck manufacturer, on par with other popular companies people around here talk about and order their decks from.  But if you prefer to take pouty attitude when people try to point out your design's shortcomings, good luck finding artists interested in working with you.  People here want to see the bar raised higher and higher, so yes, they will point out shortfalls and mistakes - because they want to see everyone making the best decks they can, decks they are eager to purchase, rather than decks that fall short by just enough to keep them from wanting to buy them.

So if we don't hear from you again, best of luck to you.
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