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Quite typical of USPC ads at that time - the height of bicycle mania. envelopes, letterheads, etc are precious - as are the Card Games books mentioned by Chuqii

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Name is Crowly, not Crowley

Do you know what that means?
No Idea - maybe there was a famous monkey late 29th century with that name.

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Name is Crowly, not Crowley

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Thanks for the additional info Don. I await confirmation from Tom but finally I think that the name of the back requested by Queen of Spades is probably Crowley. I found a copy of the first Aladdin joker (pictured below) with this same back. But If it's not the Crowley back, we can still include it in the first backs used for the Aladdin brand.
Dome & Dragon are correct. Below is Crowley

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Goodwill Gold
« on: February 29, 2016, 03:06:34 PM »
That's a very good idea, thanks! This is the same thrift store I found Drueke chessboard last year (http://www.chessusa.com/product/DB-102.html ) so needless to say, I'll be a regular from now on!

With the exception of 1 of the expert backs, none of them have two jokers (and I suspect it was robbed from the pack with none). When was the second joker added to USPC decks? And would they have come with advertising cards back then?
In that era they would come with only one Joker

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Aladdin #1001 started a mid-range brand around 1885.  Even after the buyout by USPC in 1893, Aladdin was continued as a regular brand - likely being phased out in the 1920's. It was revived for specific export sales in more recent times - don't know when but would guess 1980's. Will try and find backs to share in the chaos here.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Goodwill Gold
« on: February 26, 2016, 09:08:15 AM »
So here's a couple pictures. I hate opening those stupid long tucks, as it feels like I'm damaging the box every time I do it. Second shot has all the decks in the same order as the first. Now that I've got them out to really get a good look at them, I notice the bottom row (and sealed one, obviously, are still in factory order, and look like they could have been manufactured yesterday! Rest of them at least have some use (and one has lost its joker), but again, I think I did pretty good for $5!
Understatement!!!! Nine Bicycle decks from 1915-19 period for $5 = bargain of the year!

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Goodwill Gold
« on: February 24, 2016, 08:39:54 AM »
Hi, everyone, first-time poster.

I'm not a collector, at least not of vintage decks, but I think I might have Done Good.

Now, I like to thrift for boardgames, as the current boardgame renaissance has mostly passed by the kinds of games I like (abstract strategy and classic card games).But  I nearly always skip over the playing cards, since I've certainly got plenty already, and they're cheap enough that second-hand doesn't really make sense. But for some reason (maybe it was the larger than usual number of decks), I decided to paw through them today. There ended up being quite a load of Bicycles, though not rider backs.

I've handled enough decks (having gone through my magic phase) to know that these were old, no coating on the box, just plain paper, and some sort of tax stamp, etc.. At $.49 a deck, I figured it was worth speculating a bit. So I picked up a couple of the ones in the best shape. Wasn't till I got in my car that I made out the cancel in black on the stamps: 4-1-19. At that point, I went back into the shop and picked up anything that looked remotely old. They vary from well-played but still snappy, to still-in-the-original-wax-paper. Boxes range from "pretty chewy" to "mint, but for the glue that didn't last 100 years".

My haul:
bikes (all with at least portions of the stamp dating to no later than 1924, most with that 4-1-19 cancel visible)::
5 expert backs
2 tangent backs
1 wheel back
1 new fan back

others:
1 rexall drug (same stamp as the bikes)
1 uncle sam (only deck not to have a stamp, appears later, as flap states 1942)
1 arrco canasta (later as well, card in shrink, having the 1940-1965 stamp)

I can post pics if anyone is interested. Interestingly, none of the bicycles seem to line up with the alphabetic dating system found on cypressfilms.com. The main "collection" (i.e., not the Uncle Sam and Canasta decks) seem to have had an interesting legacy. Clearly someone was enough of an avid card player to buy up 10 decks, but somehow only through a couple, leaving most of them close to intact for 100 years.
Wow. Long time since we found an old Bicycle deck at less than $5 - much less 49 cents. Well done and welcome back into card collecting!

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Here is the back view of ths Aladdin .

Thank you very much .
In the 1890's Alladin #1001 & #1002 [Gold Edges] had several backs including Crowley, Oriental, Dome and Dragon - none of which match with the one pictured

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Antique Russell & Morgan Sylph Back
« on: February 22, 2016, 10:01:16 AM »
Sorry - don't have that back.

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I would say buyer paid full price - considering condition, wrapper, etc. not an overpayment. In the end if you want it there should not be a problem paying top dollar as you may never get the opportunity again.

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Very nice finds - both are early - I'd say 1885-1890 period.

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Yes - well done. Rarely see one available and it is a classic. :D

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: 2 Hornet decks, or not
« on: February 06, 2016, 03:00:00 PM »
Nice Bicycle deck - ones with peaked hat Joker are very collectible. Ramnlers OK too. Hornets are rare, especially with the hornet joker as many have a generic USPC joker.

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The guy says its the first appearance of the best bower, and i cant find anything like it online.  I was wrong it has been opened but it does have its original paper package.  I think it is amazing.
Not the first Joker - but an early one from late 1860's likely. It is NY23 in Hochman. Don't see these very often in this condition.

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Thanks for posting this - interesting.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: 1st Anniversary Edition of Card Culture
« on: December 17, 2015, 11:00:21 AM »
As President of 52 Plus Joker I want to thank Don and Lee for doing a super job in getting this started and continuing each month with a first class publication that comes out on time. Well done Don & Lee and thanks to all the contributors!

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We have a lot of information about this deck which was never actually issued. When home next week will look and see if we can help.
Have searched all my Longley papers and information to no avail. Will remain a mystery I suspect!

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We have a lot of information about this deck which was never actually issued. When home next week will look and see if we can help.

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Thanks for posting this - great deck and I had never even seen a picture before!

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Thanks for the update. This is what I was hoping for - a picture of the Ace and/or Joker with that back. Great deck and a very different style than Hart commonly used.

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If the Ace was depicted we know for sure - otherwise just because the seller said it was Hart does not mean it was.

Sorry but I don't understand your doubt. I wait for the additional pictures from the buyer but the deck was really made by Samuel Hart. I did not lie but you are free to not believe me..
Let me be clearer - We know if we see a Hart Ace with the same back. If we do not see the Ace, how can we be sure it is a Hart deck? I WAS NOT ACCUSING YOU OF LYING - it is not a question at all about believing you - rather if your belief that it was a Hart deck was based on representations from an eBay seller, that they might not be accurate.

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Interesting back - how do we know it is from a Hart deck?

The character is clearly Pickwick - visit this link for information and pictures of the Pickwick deck by Kyd
http://www.wopc.co.uk/uk/pickwick

I am sure because I saw the auction for the deck on eBay (fr) the last year (item 301342431890). It was sold in a very nice wooden box with a Dougherty triplicate deck (item 301342401725). And there was these words on the box: "Souvenir de Lady Pons, 12 Août 1882 - Menlo Park." Unfortunately, I kept only the picture of the back and the rest of the images is now inaccessible. But I contacted the seller to try to have a chance to get back the other images. Thank you for the Pickwick info.

Meanwhile, another interesting old NYCC back.

If the Ace was depicted we know for sure - otherwise just because the seller said it was Hart does not mean it was.

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