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Title: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 03, 2012, 10:40:35 PM


A bit about Skulkor...


  Skulkor illusions is an *upcoming* line of special products as well as magic for magicians, flourishers and the general underground. Part of the line will include a specialty deck

  Check out the teaser at the site
:: http://www.skulkor.com (http://www.skulkor.com) ::

 like on Facebook!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 03, 2012, 10:44:10 PM
pretty sweet trailer! I signed up to get the email updates.

So is this your company? I'm a little confused haha
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 03, 2012, 10:47:15 PM
pretty sweet trailer! I signed up to get the email updates.

So is this your company? I'm a little confused haha


 Lols not even old enough to have a credit card man~
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 03, 2012, 10:49:18 PM
ah I see. That's still pretty cool. Well I look forward to hearing more about Skulkor!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 03, 2012, 11:13:23 PM
subscribed.
 
is the deck in the trailer one of your upcoming products? it was a quick flash but the design seems to be detailed and elegant!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Derek on February 03, 2012, 11:17:08 PM
Video trailer was epic... MOAR!  :-X
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 03, 2012, 11:17:46 PM
subscribed.
 
is the deck in the trailer one of your upcoming products? it was a quick flash but the design seems to be detailed and elegant!

 Yup.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 03, 2012, 11:27:49 PM
That trailer was extremely impressive! The deck looks so awesome! I'm guessing its a black deck but I hope not because of chipping :(
Either way, I'm buying it!

Caught a little glimpse...  ;D

Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 04, 2012, 12:01:17 AM
Thats very interesting.
Is the deck produced? Or is that a prototype deck?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 04, 2012, 12:03:58 AM
I'd be guessing it's a prototype because nobody has it yet and there hasn't been any word about the deck or the company yet. The trailer is awesome and that little picture of the deck looks really nice. It looks very detailed so we'll have to wait for a better picture to really get a good look at it.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 04, 2012, 12:41:23 AM
I just have a feling that the deck is already printed. Or it will be available for a pre-order in say.... 1 week.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 04, 2012, 12:47:04 AM
That is a very nice deck! Good luck in starting up the business. :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xela on February 04, 2012, 12:49:21 AM
No offense but dear lord that name is awful. Maybe it's because I'm used to anything on the web ending in "OR" reminding me of "LEETZOR" or "HAXXOR" but yeah, wow. :P

However, that has nothing to do with what's at hand here. Looking forward to seeing your design. Based on what I've already seen, it looks great, but you already know that. :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 04, 2012, 01:11:29 AM
That trailer was extremely impressive! The deck looks so awesome! I'm guessing its a black deck but I hope not because of chipping :(
Either way, I'm buying it!

Caught a little glimpse...  ;D

  I can tell you it'll be a bordered white deck. ;)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 04, 2012, 01:12:36 AM
I'd be guessing it's a prototype because nobody has it yet and there hasn't been any word about the deck or the company yet. The trailer is awesome and that little picture of the deck looks really nice. It looks very detailed so we'll have to wait for a better picture to really get a good look at it.

  You could say it's a proto-proto deck.. updates on the facebook page!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Frost on February 04, 2012, 01:16:59 AM
i am going to get this cards to  :D :D
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 04, 2012, 01:18:09 AM
No offense but dear lord that name is awful. Maybe it's because I'm used to anything on the web ending in "OR" reminding me of "LEETZOR" or "HAXXOR" but yeah, wow. :P

However, that has nothing to do with what's at hand here. Looking forward to seeing your design. Based on what I've already seen, it looks great, but you already know that. :)

  Good point good point. Name wasn't mine tho~ meh.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Frost on February 04, 2012, 01:27:48 AM
are u going to do the pre-sale in 6 days ??
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: CBJ on February 04, 2012, 03:32:30 AM
via 52Cartes

(http://52cartes.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/skulkor.jpg)

CBJ
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 04, 2012, 03:36:40 AM
That picture is pretty cool! It looks like carbon fiber or scales.

So is this releasing or pre-selling in a week?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 04, 2012, 03:40:26 AM
interesting...
 
i like the scale-like feeling on the tuckbox. can't wait to see more!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: chdmagicdude on February 04, 2012, 03:41:46 AM
i am going to pick up some i like this deck i like the back and the color of black that they used one it do you guys now if this is going to be a limited?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 04, 2012, 03:50:25 AM
i am going to pick up some i like this deck i like the back and the color of black that they used one it do you guys now if this is going to be a limited?

Well everything is limited these days. The term really doesn't mean much. No company is going to print decks over and over and over again. They will usually do a 5000 deck run or maybe a large run of 10000. Those numbers are just examples. There are more decks but they are still "limited". So my guess would be yes these are going to be limited, just like most other decks. The real question is how "limited" and what is the demand for them?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 04, 2012, 03:52:30 AM
I'm expecting a 2500 deck run. It's a new company and I doubt they'll throw in big bucks for their first product. Probably just a small test and see the responses before jumping into bigger expenditures.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 04, 2012, 03:54:13 AM
I'm expecting a 2500 deck run. It's a new company and I doubt they'll throw in big bucks for their first product. Probably just a small test and see the responses before jumping into bigger expenditures.

Yeah this is probably the case. I'm thinking of getting a few. The box looks awesome!! The previews looked cool. The comic style theme was nice too, reminded me of growing up.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: chdmagicdude on February 04, 2012, 03:58:46 AM
yeah thats what i am wondering how limited it is going to be? my guess is 5000.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 04, 2012, 05:39:51 AM
i am going to pick up some i like this deck i like the back and the color of black that they used one it do you guys now if this is going to be a limited?

Well everything is limited these days. The term really doesn't mean much. No company is going to print decks over and over and over again. They will usually do a 5000 deck run or maybe a large run of 10000. Those numbers are just examples. There are more decks but they are still "limited". So my guess would be yes these are going to be limited, just like most other decks. The real question is how "limited" and what is the demand for them?

Ellusionist does have most of its product line printed over and over.  And people still buy them.

I actually like them for that.  It means I can go ahead, play and perform with a deck to my heart's content, knowing that I can always order a few more when they're dead and being used for "destroyed card" tricks.  T11 appears to be moving in that direction, with the Erlanger print of the Propaganda deck.

I do like what I've seen so far of Skulkor, and I still remember #F's post on good and bad design - impressive knowledge of design there, I don't care how old he is or isn't...
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: VortexHead on February 04, 2012, 05:47:17 AM
Interesting looking deck, I'll be keeping an eye out for them. The trailer reminded me of Batman btw  ???
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 04, 2012, 11:29:35 AM
Thank you for a white border. Smart move!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Lushbob on February 04, 2012, 05:42:42 PM
I like the look of this deck so far! I might just have to pick one up. I especially enjoy the minimalist design of the tuckbox - it seems to be getting more common lately, much to my pleasure.
Also, I'm pronouncing the name like 'skulker', as in someone who skulks around. This is as opposed to annunciating the 'o' specifically. So, 'skull-kerr' rather than 'skull-k-or'. Am I pronouncing it right?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 04, 2012, 08:17:41 PM
I am sorry if I missed out on part of the competition, but when and where will it be available?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 04, 2012, 08:19:46 PM
I am sorry if I missed out on part of the competition, but when and where will it be available?
What competition?
And the release is in 6 days, 2 hours, and 40 minutes at www.skulkor.com
 
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 04, 2012, 08:28:18 PM
I am sorry if I missed out on part of the competition, but when and where will it be available?

There was no competition for this deck in the first place so you didn't miss out on anything!
Though it may be a good idea to catch some attention. Take it into consideration PoundFFFFFF!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 04, 2012, 08:41:24 PM
OOOPS lol, wow, what a fool I've made out of myself lol. I meant CONVERSATION. LMAO
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 05, 2012, 03:04:51 AM
OOOPS lol, wow, what a fool I've made out of myself lol. I meant CONVERSATION. LMAO

Then just READ the conversation...  Amazing thing, reading...  ;)  Saves people from having to repeat information.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: K on February 05, 2012, 05:11:34 AM
wow, another classy deck.  8)  i wonder how the pips, court cards and aos look like, hope i'll be like the mana deck!  :D
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 05, 2012, 05:56:04 AM
wow, another classy deck.  8)  i wonder how the pips, court cards and aos look like, hope i'll be like the mana deck!  :D

Why would you want two decks to have nearly the same design?  Better to be original.  If I know #F, it'll be original and well-designed.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Jin Jian on February 05, 2012, 11:06:30 AM
wow, another classy deck.  8)  i wonder how the pips, court cards and aos look like, hope i'll be like the mana deck!  :D

Why would you want two decks to have nearly the same design?  Better to be original.  If I know #F, it'll be original and well-designed.
ya i agree too why would you 2 deck to have the same design ?? and looking at the tuckbox and back design i think that the court card all that will be much better
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: K on February 05, 2012, 12:17:03 PM

wow, another classy deck.  8)   i wonder how the pips, court cards and aos look like, hope i'll be like the mana deck!  :D 

Why would you want two decks to have nearly the same design?  Better to be original.  If I know #F, it'll be original and well-designed.


wow, another classy deck.  8)  i wonder how the pips, court cards and aos look like, hope i'll be like the mana deck!  :D

Why would you want two decks to have nearly the same design?  Better to be original.  If I know #F, it'll be original and well-designed.
ya i agree too why would you 2 deck to have the same design ?? and looking at the tuckbox and back design i think that the court card all that will be much better


sorry, i meant in terms of the attractiveness of the Mana deck (In my opinion) not having two decks with the same/nearly the same design. i better check my posts before i post next time.  :'(  it seems i keep messing up and clearing up misunderstandings.  :'(
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 05, 2012, 12:58:57 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but its all standard faces except for the jokers and AoS  :(
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 05, 2012, 01:02:05 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but its all standard faces except for the jokers and AoS  :(

You've got the pictures to the Jokers and AoS already? Post 'em up!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 05, 2012, 01:06:29 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but its all standard faces except for the jokers and AoS  :(

You've got the pictures to the Jokers and AoS already? Post 'em up!
I don't have them but I've seen them.

Here are some pics that they posted on Facebook

Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on February 05, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
so yea this deck is on my list, i subscribed to the updates on the site.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 05, 2012, 02:39:18 PM
The back is alright. It's hard for me to find big differences between this and other backs on black decks. It looks good but it's nothing super eye catching, I guess. I'm curious to see if the court cards are custom and to see what the AoS looks like.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 05, 2012, 02:51:44 PM
~ meh.   .     
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 05, 2012, 02:55:47 PM
  I did want to make custom courts but couldn't due to a bunch of different issues~ meh.

That's a shame! Will we get to peek the AoS anytime soon??
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on February 05, 2012, 02:56:09 PM
is that countdown on your site untill these are released? if so i wont be able to get.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 05, 2012, 03:39:17 PM
is that countdown on your site untill these are released? if so i wont be able to get.

  The countdown is when the store opens  ;)

Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on February 05, 2012, 03:41:17 PM
ok thank you, i was worried. :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 05, 2012, 03:53:31 PM
I have to say, I wasn't very impressed with the AoS. It looks cool and goes well with the back design but is sort of lacking something.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 06, 2012, 12:46:22 AM
i better check my posts before i post next time.  :'(  it seems i keep messing up and clearing up misunderstandings.  :'(

No one expects perfection - but yes, show a little more care in what you write and how you phrase it.  It makes life a lot simpler when you're being understood.

  I did want to make custom courts but couldn't due to a bunch of different issues~ meh.

Well, were you at least able to tweak the colors a bit to make them a little more interesting?

I like many things about this deck, despite the standard courts.  It's black without bashing you over the head with it, and it has white borders to break up the all-black monotony and preserve the edges.  It has some cool geometric designs on the back as opposed to skulls, demons, undecipherable nonsense glyphs, etc.  Plain and simple, this deck catches my eye.

As a first deck from a new company, I'd say it's not a bad effort.  (It beats ANYTHING Merz67 has "designed" into a bloody pulp with a half-inch-thick steel rod!)  I hope to see bigger and better things in the future, and let's hope that it handles even better than it looks!  What's the handling like?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: K on February 06, 2012, 01:20:34 AM
had high hopes for this deck, I would still get one even without the custom court cards. I like the backs and tuck box and I can't wait to see the front of the cards with the aos and jokers. They do look slightly similar to Devo's but that's just my opinion..  :-\  Do look forward to the release in 4 + days  :)


EDIT: just saw the jokers, they're really cool, no, awesome would be a better word! I have high hopes for the ace of spades! :D  Here are the pics from 52 crate,


http://52cartes.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/skulkor_joker-1.jpg?w=614&h=460 (http://52cartes.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/skulkor_joker-1.jpg?w=614&h=460)


http://52cartes.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/skulkor_joker.jpg?w=614&h=460 (http://52cartes.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/skulkor_joker.jpg?w=614&h=460)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 06, 2012, 01:46:08 AM
What's the handling like?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 06, 2012, 01:53:46 AM
Oh the jokers are pretty snazzy! I like the cursive writing a lot! The raven(?) is great too! Looks really really nice!

I was surprised at how white and lively the joker was for a black deck. It was a nice change up in my opinion
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 06, 2012, 02:21:02 AM
Is it just me or does the joker seem to resemble reaper?
To be honest, despite all the dark-themed decks out there, I like it!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on February 06, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
  The countdown is when the store opens and when it does there'll be more than just the deck ;)

  Also the deck isn't as limited as you might think so I'm sure you can get your hands on a few even if you don't line up for them.

so the decks are already made? or is it a pre-order?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 06, 2012, 04:49:33 AM
Is it just me or does the joker seem to resemble reaper?
To be honest, despite all the dark-themed decks out there, I like it!

To me, the Joker looks like a raven or a crow, but at the same time like two hands moving in a clawing action.  It's definitely a piece of art.  Me like, me like...
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: sinsandman on February 06, 2012, 08:52:06 AM
I have sat and thought about previous jokers for the last 10 minutes. I believe this joker is the sickest joker I have ever seen. Bias? Maybe. Untrue? Not at all 8)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 06, 2012, 08:55:32 AM
The joker looks more like a hawk or falcon to me.

What's the handling like?

  The stock is I think generally agreed to be best one out there due to a secret poll we did. : )
Can you tell us what the stock and finish is please?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 06, 2012, 09:38:41 AM
Can't wait for it to be released!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xlacs on February 06, 2012, 09:39:35 AM
Pretty cool looking jokers! looking forward to these cards.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 06, 2012, 12:47:44 PM
The joker looks more like a hawk or falcon to me.
  The stock is I think generally agreed to be best one out there due to a secret poll we did. : )
Can you tell us what the stock and finish is please?
+1 >:(
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 06, 2012, 01:38:23 PM
Ya, same, I would also like to know the stock and finish!  :D
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 06, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
Can you tell us what the stock and finish is please?

  Stock is very similar to white lions. Finish is standard performance coat.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 06, 2012, 09:31:42 PM
Can you tell us what the stock and finish is please?

  Stock is very similar to white lions. Finish is standard performance coat.
That doesnt help.... Does the finish have a name? And when you say performance coating do you mean like what Ellusionist uses?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 07, 2012, 03:48:00 AM
Can you tell us what the stock and finish is please?

  Stock is very similar to white lions. Finish is standard performance coat.
That doesnt help.... Does the finish have a name? And when you say performance coating do you mean like what Ellusionist uses?

"Performance Coating" is Ellusionist's name for Magic Finish.  By the word "standard" I'm guessing it's old reliable - Air Cushion Finish.  Right?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 07, 2012, 04:51:07 AM
And I present to you...The AoS!


Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 07, 2012, 06:40:56 AM
Thats a pretty cool looking AoS but reminds me of the masters deck AoS
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 07, 2012, 07:53:47 AM
There's no dating code (sorry I don't know how to describe the code) on AoS, how could we date this deck 30 years later? :P
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
I have to say the AoS isn't at all what I expected, but I am still super excited for these!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 07, 2012, 02:18:39 PM
There's no dating code (sorry I don't know how to describe the code) on AoS, how could we date this deck 30 years later? :P

By referring back to this forum! :D
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 07, 2012, 03:48:54 PM
The AoS spades isn't what I was expecting but it does look good! I'm not sure what it reminds me of but whatever it is it's not a bad thing haha

It seems as if the back and AoS are very similar but the jokers are less similar in style to the rest of the deck... Does anybody else feel that way?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: RandyButterfield on February 07, 2012, 03:51:04 PM
There's no dating code (sorry I don't know how to describe the code) on AoS, how could we date this deck 30 years later? :P

By referring back to this forum! :D

There is almost always a Copyright date on the bottom or top flap of the Tuck Box.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 03:55:17 PM
The AoS spades isn't what I was expecting but it does look good! I'm not sure what it reminds me of but whatever it is it's not a bad thing haha

It seems as if the back and AoS are very similar but the jokers are less similar in style to the rest of the deck... Does anybody else feel that way?
Haha, notice how you kinda copied what I just said lol?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 07, 2012, 04:01:31 PM
The AoS spades isn't what I was expecting but it does look good! I'm not sure what it reminds me of but whatever it is it's not a bad thing haha

It seems as if the back and AoS are very similar but the jokers are less similar in style to the rest of the deck... Does anybody else feel that way?
Haha, notice how you kinda copied what I just said lol?

Not at all. We both weren't expecting this to look as it does. I also mentioned it reminded me of something that I can't place my finger on (maybe it's master deck, but I'm not sure). I also talked about the jokers.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: IAmTheChin on February 07, 2012, 07:36:16 PM
The Jokers remind me a bit of the Moth deck.  Love the video. Enjoyed what I saw. Judging by the quality of the teaser I'm gonna expect some good stuff on the website. Look forward to it.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 07, 2012, 08:25:58 PM
The AoS spades isn't what I was expecting but it does look good! I'm not sure what it reminds me of but whatever it is it's not a bad thing haha

It seems as if the back and AoS are very similar but the jokers are less similar in style to the rest of the deck... Does anybody else feel that way?
Haha, notice how you kinda copied what I just said lol?

Not at all. We both weren't expecting this to look as it does. I also mentioned it reminded me of something that I can't place my finger on (maybe it's master deck, but I'm not sure). I also talked about the jokers.
Haha, I was just teasing you. It's just that a couple words you said were the same and I found it funny to make fun of that.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: K on February 07, 2012, 08:34:01 PM
the aos let me down a little after seeing the awesome jokers, nonetheless i'm still getting this deck  :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 07, 2012, 10:21:07 PM
Heres a pic of the ring....
Maybe they'll be selling it? hint hint....  ;)



Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 07, 2012, 10:56:02 PM
@nathan haha I gothca! I can see what youre talking about  :P

Yeah that is a snazzy wring. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a few for sale
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: jmrock on February 08, 2012, 02:26:10 AM
Don't shoot the messenger, but the guy said, "We are skulkers" and I didn't know what the H a skulker was, so I looked it up... Turns out, I'm not a skulker... hahaha!!!

Dictionary Online:

Noun1.skulker - someone shirking their duty by feigning illness or incapacity
malingerer (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/malingerer), shammer (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shammer)
shirker (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shirker), slacker (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/slacker) - a person who shirks his work or duty (especially one who tries to evade military service in wartime)


Also turns out that Skulker is the name of a villain in a cartoon my son watches, Danny Phantom...
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 08, 2012, 02:41:30 AM
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Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 08, 2012, 03:04:22 AM
There's no dating code (sorry I don't know how to describe the code) on AoS, how could we date this deck 30 years later? :P

By referring back to this forum! :D

There is almost always a Copyright date on the bottom or top flap of the Tuck Box.

Dating codes usually only appear on decks that the USPC makes for itself, not for others.  The Steam Punk deck from T11 had no AoS code, but the USPC edition does.  Checking for copyright dates like Randy said is the best bet - making it all that much more important in the future for vintage deck collectors to find intact boxes along with the decks they buy!

Heres a pic of the ring....
Maybe they'll be selling it? hint hint....  ;)



Yeah that is a snazzy wring. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a few for sale

Well, PoundFFFFFF did mention there would be other things for sale on the site when it goes into store mode on Friday...  But a ring?  Unless it's rigged, like a PK ring or something, I'd be asking myself "Why?"


Also turns out that Skulker is the name of a villain in a cartoon my son watches, Danny Phantom...

Am I the only one who noticed the similarities between the shape of the Skulkor Ace of Spades and the "Danny Phantom" Skulker's head?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: eirian on February 08, 2012, 06:15:25 AM
fratres in aeternum - brothers forever
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: eirian on February 08, 2012, 06:18:38 AM
Right - Skulkor logo
Left - what is it?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 08, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
Wait wat? The store opens on friday? Isn't that the same release date as the Galvanic playing cards' kickstarter?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 08, 2012, 02:25:54 PM
Wait wat? The store opens on friday? Isn't that the same release date as the Galvanic playing cards' kickstarter?
Friday is the 10th and the Galvanic Deck goes on Kickstarter on the 15th
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 08, 2012, 02:35:47 PM
Wait wat? The store opens on friday? Isn't that the same release date as the Galvanic playing cards' kickstarter?
Friday is the 10th and the Galvanic Deck goes on Kickstarter on the 15th
Hehe. Thanks for the clarification. I was over-hyped about the Galvanic deck, and I thought it would go up on Kickstarter on the 10th. My bad  ::)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 08, 2012, 04:07:33 PM
Right - Skulkor logo
Left - what is it?

Is this a question, or are you teasing us?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xela on February 08, 2012, 04:14:03 PM
Right - Skulkor logo
Left - what is it?

I know you're new here, but keep from double posting. Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 08, 2012, 04:35:21 PM
The left logo on the ring could be the logo for the next deck? Not trying to look too far ahead just yet, but that's a possibility. Or it could just be a fancy design for looks.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 08, 2012, 05:23:07 PM
Maybe the other side is the bird from the joker?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on February 10, 2012, 01:55:15 AM
  The opening date has been moved, as it appears an event had been posted on the Facebook Page -
 Spread the words. Get 10 likes from the people you tagged, for a chance to receive a deck of limited classic wax sealed Skulkor playing cards.

 
[/size]Spread the word to like the page, for a chance to receive Silver Waxed SPS. There will be less than 50 in the entire world.[/color]
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Frost on February 10, 2012, 02:16:51 AM
we have to wait another 14 days for the store to open at skulkor.com it gives me time to get more money . :D
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: CBJ on February 10, 2012, 08:38:35 AM
I think you're doing a great job!  I like what I see so far.

Even though I'm trying to only buy Bicycle decks, I'm still going to pick up a couple of these.

CBJ
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 10, 2012, 03:09:34 PM
I emailed the support on the skulker website over a week ago and still no answer. I emailed them again 2 or 3 days ago and no answer...
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 10, 2012, 08:47:29 PM
Does anyone know how to register and log in to the site?
Is it available now?
Where can I see the countdown?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Frost on February 10, 2012, 09:15:19 PM
just give your email address and and that's going to be your username and u need  to check your email inbox and they will give u  your password.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 11, 2012, 01:21:33 AM
just give your email address and and that's going to be your username and u need  to check your email inbox and they will give u  your password.

Thanks. I did submitted my email, but the mail from them was marked as a junk mail so I didn't notice this.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Jin Jian on February 14, 2012, 09:19:40 AM
just give your email address and and that's going to be your username and u need  to check your email inbox and they will give u  your password.

Thanks. I did submitted my email, but the mail from them was marked as a junk mail so I didn't notice this.
thank for the info man !! i was waiting for me to receive the message and found out that it is marked as junk mail after you say that .. 10 more days until release
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on February 15, 2012, 08:39:18 PM
so i won a brick of these from their fb contest, so im really likely these guys.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Frost on February 15, 2012, 08:49:16 PM
did u already get them and if so make a tutorial .
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 15, 2012, 08:53:59 PM
did u already get them and if so make a tutorial .
He just won them so no, he didn't get them yet.
Also, what is a tutorial... I think you mean review?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on February 15, 2012, 08:54:50 PM
by tutorial i assume you mean review, and no they just had the contest and im working on getting them, as soon as i get them i will review them
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 15, 2012, 11:15:40 PM
so i won a brick of these from their fb contest, so im really likely these guys.

Congrats!! Be sure to post pictures and review if you have time! I know we'd all love to get a better look at this deck and hear what you think about
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Frost on February 15, 2012, 11:17:27 PM
yes review i'm sorry i was thinking of a tutorial i was seeing right when i was writing the post .
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on February 16, 2012, 10:34:34 AM
yea let me put it this way, as soon as they tell me they are sending them to me i will try to see when i can do an unboxing and then a review. i will post both here. but they have yet to pm for me to claim my prize.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 16, 2012, 03:38:39 PM
yea let me put it this way, as soon as they tell me they are sending them to me i will try to see when i can do an unboxing and then a review. i will post both here. but they have yet to pm for me to claim my prize.
That may take a while  :(
I emailed their support team and it took almost 2 weeks for them to get back to me.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on February 17, 2012, 10:27:34 AM
well im hoping soon, i think it makes since that i won the contest these would be shiped out before others from their store.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 17, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
well im hoping soon, i think it makes since that i won the contest these would be shiped out before others from their store.

Did you win a free brick or a free brick with early delivery. The past couple times I've won deck they didn't ship them until the decks were released. Even with the Mana deck there were many winners for free decks but only a select 12 got their decks early. Hopefully you get them early though!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 17, 2012, 03:28:18 PM
We don't even know if the deck has been printed yet. I think it has be that hasn't been confirmed.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: K on February 18, 2012, 01:26:51 AM
Looks like SKULKOR's been hyping up alot with the public, lots of contests mainly at raising public awareness of the deck, tagging countless people, changing their display pictures etc.


 the jokers're a killer.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: LeonJL on February 24, 2012, 12:15:11 AM
It's almost here. Less than 23 hours from their countdown timer on the official page.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 24, 2012, 12:48:55 PM
It's almost here. Less than 23 hours from their countdown timer on the official page.
Ugh! Can't wait for it!! Who here is planning on getting something on their website, and what?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: LeonJL on February 24, 2012, 04:12:49 PM
It's almost here. Less than 23 hours from their countdown timer on the official page.
Ugh! Can't wait for it!! Who here is planning on getting something on their website, and what?


I might be getting half a brick of these and maybe the pearl white clip.. It looks nice. But i'll have to see the total price of these first..
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 24, 2012, 04:43:12 PM
Ehh The back design is ok... standard faces. Awesome jokers, decent AoS.... I'll probably get 2 or 3
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 24, 2012, 08:03:12 PM
Ehh The back design is ok... standard faces. Awesome jokers, decent AoS.... I'll probably get 2 or 3
I feel the same way: a D&D amount of hype for a not-so-great-to-say-the-least deck... I have VERY mixed feelings about their company...
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 24, 2012, 08:19:37 PM
I haven't really cared for this companies stuff so far. The hype that they have been creating seems a little cheesy, in my opinion. Once the deck is out and some people review I'll think about it, but for now I'm just passing on all their stuff.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Paul Carpenter on February 24, 2012, 08:47:08 PM
No one has really seen everything yet, but here is my abbreviated review from what I have put together so far. Obviously, your opinion may vary.

- Skulkor brand name: reminiscent of 80's cartoon bad guy name. Root word has entirely negative connotations. Trying way too hard to be "gothy" or mysterious. Sounds embarrassing to say. Not related to cards, magic. A poor choice.
- Marketing: Excellent, as they've manged to build amazing hype, get people to change profile pictures, get people to comment like they are the second coming. Very clever and effective. Not my style at all, but obviously working.
- Skulkor deck box: beautiful, love the subtle texture.
- Wax deal deck gimmick: Brilliant and gorgeous. Honestly wish I'd thought of it.
- Accessories (rings): Honestly no idea who would ever wear that, other than an angsty teen
- Skulkor deck: For me, hugely anticlimactic. Entire predictable variation on a theme we all own probably 10x over. Jokers are wonderful, rest is entirely forgettable.

My conclusion: Masters of hype marketing, but their debut product will be one that in six months you glance at on your shelf and pass on by to pick up something more compelling.

Again, this is purely my personal opinion. I wish success to them and hope that more independent makers can build the custom card market into a better place.

Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 24, 2012, 08:56:31 PM
I've actually seen everything...
When they launched they leaked a section on their site which con tainted all of their products and prices. I've kept quiet... But you guys will all see it in a few hours
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 24, 2012, 09:39:48 PM
Early release anyone?  ;D
 http://www.skulkor.com/products
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 24, 2012, 09:47:35 PM
Now I see why they could give out all those free gifts and credits. Expensive! $300 for the ring?
I'm probably only gonna get the deck. >.<
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 24, 2012, 09:53:04 PM
Early release anyone?  ;D
 http://www.skulkor.com/products (http://www.skulkor.com/products)
Nice finding the link :)  The prices are not too bad for the cards and uncuts but it is pretty expensive for the other stuff.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Paul Carpenter on February 24, 2012, 09:55:48 PM
Heh, they redirected that already. Oh well, everyone will just have to wait.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 24, 2012, 09:58:07 PM
Heh, they redirected that already. Oh well, everyone will just have to wait.
I just had to sign in then manually type in the link and it worked.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 24, 2012, 10:07:03 PM
Yes, you have to sign in for the link to work
http://www.skulkor.com/products
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 24, 2012, 10:18:12 PM
well I wanted to see how much buying 2 decks would cost it is $14, AND $27 DOLLAR SHIPPING! WTF. >:(
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 24, 2012, 10:27:15 PM
i think the shipping is a glitch.... I added a brick and it was $27 shipping too.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 24, 2012, 10:39:55 PM
maybe they will change it when the acctual release happens
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 24, 2012, 10:53:52 PM
maybe they will change it when the acctual release happens
Thats what I was thinking to... it prevented me from buying early
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 24, 2012, 11:04:22 PM
everything is now released guys! And the shipping is still $27 so I`ll be skipping on this deck.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: runIt on February 24, 2012, 11:10:56 PM
The Skulkor development team is working around the clock to make sure everything will be ready with perfection and up to the Skulkor standard. Your orders are expected to be shipped in 8 weeks.
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[/size][/color][/font]
[/size][/color]27 bucks for shipping, 8 weeks to get delivered. It is indeed a revolution - in worst way possible.[/font]
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: sliverboi on February 24, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
Hey anyone care to share the link? I am stuck at the home page.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Frost on February 24, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
i'm passing on this deck i really don't like it and the rest of the stuff in the store is to expensive.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 24, 2012, 11:15:41 PM
International shipping is 49$ per brick???
Nopeeeee.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 24, 2012, 11:16:34 PM
I wasn`t interested in the deck but then I figured I might as well get 2 but with that shipping price this is ridiculous. >:(
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 24, 2012, 11:16:49 PM
Shipping is just ridiculous. I hope it's a bug and fixed soon. Otherwise too many people would back out because of it.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Jin Jian on February 24, 2012, 11:19:20 PM
so no people is going to buy it ?? it also have a royalty package and luxury package .. and 100 royalty point is $1
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 24, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Fixed shipping prices...
$27 in the U.S.
$49 for International

Yea... umm theres no way I'm buying from them with those shipping prices. Maybe someone should let them know that the prices are ridiculous.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 24, 2012, 11:30:53 PM
They are not answering anything about the shipping price posted in their Facebook. "- -
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 24, 2012, 11:37:07 PM
SKULKOR NEWS ON SHIPPING RATES:
"Our current rate is flat for better value since most brothers have purchased our Royal Package and other items in bulk. The size of uncut sheet alone costs more than the flat shipping. For small orders, we will have new direct checkout buttons in EXPRESS CHECKOUT. You will be able to purchase items that go into small parcels for rate accordingly." - Skulkor
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 24, 2012, 11:40:22 PM
I tried the half brick set, but the shipping doesn't change. It's still 49$ international.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xela on February 24, 2012, 11:49:41 PM
If I get referred to as a "brother" I will go ahead and smack someone.

I get that marketing your fans as a team is very effective, but it's just making it sound like some insane cult that kidnaps and rapes ethnic women. I'd love to pick up a deck to support #F's work, which I enjoy, but I don't think I can justify it - the idea of having something related to this sitting on my shelf seems silly.

I can't imagine going "this is a vintage deck of Bicycle cards, all the way back from the 40s, and this here is the Skulkor deck and I am a brother - join our revolution!!"

I feel they have some great strengths, Paul pointed those out in an earlier post, but they are not playing to them. I always thought Bedeceived was cheesy, but this is like Cheesyness's Central Cheesequarters.

These are my personal opinions - so don't take them too seriously. :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 24, 2012, 11:57:24 PM
SKULKOR NEWS ON SHIPPING RATES:
"Our current rate is flat for better value since most brothers have purchased our Royal Package and other items in bulk. The size of uncut sheet alone costs more than the flat shipping. For small orders, we will have new direct checkout buttons in EXPRESS CHECKOUT. You will be able to purchase items that go into small parcels for rate accordingly." - Skulkor

They are forcing customers to purchase the Royal Packages. :-X :-X
 
I will buy this deck but not today. Just like D&D ChinaTown, I believe 1-2 weeks later I can get it with acceptable price on auctions here. I love those professional dealers. :-X
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 12:00:46 AM
I accidentally missed this, but I hope they will be available tomorrow.

Does anyone know how much the pearl clip costs?

If I get referred to as a "brother" I will go ahead and smack someone.

I get that marketing your fans as a team is very effective, but it's just making it sound like some insane cult that kidnaps and rapes ethnic women. I'd love to pick up a deck to support #F's work, which I enjoy, but I don't think I can justify it - the idea of having something related to this sitting on my shelf seems silly.

I can't imagine going "this is a vintage deck of Bicycle cards, all the way back from the 40s, and this here is the Skulkor deck and I am a brother - join our revolution!!"

I feel they have some great strengths, Paul pointed those out in an earlier post, but they are not playing to them. I always thought Bedeceived was cheesy, but this is like Cheesyness's Central Cheesequarters.

These are my personal opinions - so don't take them too seriously. :)
I almost died laughing when I read that!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 25, 2012, 12:01:41 AM
They said their site crashed now. I will see what shipping is when it is up. I agree with alex that this "brother" thing is retarded.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 25, 2012, 12:09:51 AM
I don't think it crashed. But they just shut it down to fix the shipping.
They said it crashed just to create the hype. Don't fall into that market trick.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 25, 2012, 12:14:13 AM
from their crashed site:
Due to unexpected extremely high volume of traffic, we are trying our best to get our brotherhood back online. In the meanwhile, brothers please proceed with your Quest ONE: Spread the Word.
The time is now, to show the world who we are and what we are capable of doing!
Quest ONE: Spread the Word
WE ARE SKULKOR! Tell the world that you are a Skulkor through any medium you like.
The delivery method must be on a public platform in order to share with other brothers and for the elders to view. You may draw a picture, compose a song, record yourself saying/yelling it, or through any creative way you can think of. But the message you deliver must include the following words, โ€œI am a Skulkor, are you?.โ€
*If you must use playing cards, you are limited to standard red and blue bicycle playing cards.
*No pornography and profanity.
*No brands can be shown or said if you decided to use videos or pictures.
*If you have any question, contact โ€œThe Eldersโ€ for guidance.


so while their site is crashed we are supposed to make videos hyping it? and we have to contact "the Elders" this seems very childish to me.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on February 25, 2012, 12:25:30 AM
yea i doubt the server overloaded cuz the error page loads instantly and is on the same server
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 25, 2012, 12:42:42 AM
It's unlikely the server crashed. Most people goes in, adds something to the shopping cart, proceeds to check-out, and closes the window. No traffic what so ever.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Paul Carpenter on February 25, 2012, 12:43:46 AM
Gotta say that went from amusing to creepy. Sheesh guys, you are just making playing cards. Playing cards. Little pieces of paper. You really don't need to try so hard. Just make something quality and be nice. Seems to work for most folks.

Though for a fee of $49 direct to my PayPal you can join the Tendrilhood and I will personally send you a plant from the rainforest with which to wear around your neck as a sign of our connectedness. :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: VortexHead on February 25, 2012, 12:56:45 AM
It's back online now, also I've not been paying attention to this deck, what is the red wax version of the deck like or is it just the sticker?

EDIT: Shouldn't there be a discount for buying more decks, the 3 deck deal is $21 but buying 3 decks is $21 anyway, whats the benefit of selecting the one over the other?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xela on February 25, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
The site in all likelihood did not crash. When a site crashes, the server gets overloaded and you wouldn't be able to access anything on there, including an error page. If you do access something, the load time would be more than a few seconds. There are a few solutions to get around a crash, such as a cloud system where a cached version of your site is hosted on a different server and people could temporarily access that.

Crashes don't just happen with high volume of traffic. When E's or D&D's sites go down, it's because of the immense number of refreshes that happen. On top of that, it's not just a few people checking out it's hundreds/thousands of people spamming "F5" on their keyboard the second a link doesn't load quickly.

You can't expect me to believe that a company with a few hundred likes on FB is capable of garnering traffic that crashes their server. We've had close to 200 people browsing this forum simultaneously, and constantly refreshing, and the most server overload I've had to go through is a few extra seconds of load time, and AC is hosted on a terrible server as is. :P

Jeez, talk about taking your work too seriously.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 25, 2012, 01:10:10 AM
If i wanted 1 deck, shipping would cost more than the deck. I'm just not ok with that. I think i will be passing on this deck. Maybe I can grab some from a reseller with good shipping
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 25, 2012, 02:25:10 AM
The site in all likelihood did not crash. When a site crashes, the server gets overloaded and you wouldn't be able to access anything on there, including an error page. If you do access something, the load time would be more than a few seconds. There are a few solutions to get around a crash, such as a cloud system where a cached version of your site is hosted on a different server and people could temporarily access that.

Crashes don't just happen with high volume of traffic. When E's or D&D's sites go down, it's because of the immense number of refreshes that happen. On top of that, it's not just a few people checking out it's hundreds/thousands of people spamming "F5" on their keyboard the second a link doesn't load quickly.

You can't expect me to believe that a company with a few hundred likes on FB is capable of garnering traffic that crashes their server. We've had close to 200 people browsing this forum simultaneously, and constantly refreshing, and the most server overload I've had to go through is a few extra seconds of load time, and AC is hosted on a terrible server as is. :P

Jeez, talk about taking your work too seriously.
They probably faked a crash to try to up the resale of these. They say the site crashed, the decks were hard to get, the price goes up like many other decks(Black Crown, Red artifice, to name a few) I doubt it was a legitimate crash.


Also they now have a shipping option of $10 for one deck. If I buy 1 deck from any other company like E or T11 it is $3 for 1 deck shipped to canada. idk if the bigger sites give you a discount on shipping though.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 25, 2012, 02:26:26 AM
If i wanted 1 deck, shipping would cost more than the deck. I'm just not ok with that. I think i will be passing on this deck. Maybe I can grab some from a reseller with good shipping

Yeah that's not cool. I'll be doing the same if I get any. On top of all of that I'm still trying to get past the whole brotherhood thing. The company just seems strange to me. In the end the deck is just okay. So I probably will pass for a while...
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: jmrock on February 25, 2012, 03:01:02 AM
skulk  (sklk)
intr.v. skulked, skulkยทing, skulks
1. To lie in hiding, as out of cowardice or bad conscience; lurk.
2. To move about stealthily.
3. To evade work or obligation; shirk.
n.
1. One who hides, lurks, or practices evasion.
2. A congregation of vermin, especially foxes, or of thieves. See Synonyms at flock1.

Once again... Glad I'm not a skulker... Hope to never be a skulker... This is the silliest $#!T I've ever seen regarding playing card collecting and quite frankly the whole thing is embarrassing... It makes me ashamed that this silly bull$#!T is associated with a hobby that I love and hold so dear to my heart... I'm really not kidding... What started off as a really poor video presentation, has just gotten worse... Happily, any decks related to these clowns will not come close to finding a place in my collection...
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on February 25, 2012, 03:33:21 AM
i asked about stock and finish


 i asked them what stock and finish they said
 
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 25, 2012, 03:38:54 AM
i asked about stock and finish

 i asked them what stock and finish they said
 
  • Zagan Zaz Hall (http://www.facebook.com/zagan.hall) what finish and stock is this deck ?
  • Skulkor Illusion (http://www.facebook.com/skulkorillusion) They've changed the name for the finish and stock recently. Have you used White Lion before?
  • Zagan Zaz Hall (http://www.facebook.com/zagan.hall) yep i have the white lions is it the same as them ?
  • Skulkor Illusion (http://www.facebook.com/skulkorillusion) Very similar, but in our opinion, a little more slick and spring-ie.

I decide not to buy the deck unless they may describe the name of finish and stock well and there is an actress in the video. :-X :-X
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Jin Jian on February 25, 2012, 04:43:23 AM
- Shipping Rate Update -
 
 We have re-negotiated with our carrier and shipping provider. New shipping rate has been updated with more precise quotation in different regions of the world.  We are here to serve and work for our brothers.
 
 Thank you brothers!
 
 Skulkor
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 25, 2012, 05:46:07 AM
The site's been back a while now.  I ordered three decks - the other stuff is nice but way too costly for me.

The shipping issue seems fixed.  The rates aren't the cheapest, but not entirely out of whack with reality, either.  Three decks for $21, plus $13.94 shipping.

I think I discovered part of the problem.  When I paid with PayPal, I learned that these guys AREN'T based in the US.  The emailed receipt gives notice of the exchange rate fees, which only appears on orders involving currency conversion.  I think they're based in Hong Kong.  PayPal lists them as "non-US - verified".

@PoundFFFFFF: don't know if you're reading this, but did you know these guys weren't operating in the US?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 25, 2012, 05:55:52 AM
Interesting. How did you come up with Hong Kong?
I just tried to check-out with a Hong Kong address and it gave me a shipping quote higher than that of shipping to Canada. I don't think it's Hong Kong. Unless maybe they've got a warehouse in US to ship out the decks, while their headquarter's based in HK.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 25, 2012, 06:03:57 AM
@Don, I checked the shipping for 3 decks to me is $13.49 too. You might be right.
 
I ordered a brick, will keep the wax sealed and 2 normal ones, then resell the rest. :-[
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 25, 2012, 06:09:55 AM
Interesting. How did you come up with Hong Kong?
I just tried to check-out with a Hong Kong address and it gave me a shipping quote higher than that of shipping to Canada. I don't think it's Hong Kong. Unless maybe they've got a warehouse in US to ship out the decks, while their headquarter's based in HK.

At least they are not in US. These boring guys pretend that they are in US and started selling items at 08pm PST.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 25, 2012, 06:20:01 AM
Interesting. How did you come up with Hong Kong?
I just tried to check-out with a Hong Kong address and it gave me a shipping quote higher than that of shipping to Canada. I don't think it's Hong Kong. Unless maybe they've got a warehouse in US to ship out the decks, while their headquarter's based in HK.

I thought I saw Hong Kong on the PayPal page when checking out.  I might have gotten it mixed up with Card Experiment from eBay - I bought some Hanshin Tigers from him tonight as well.  Either way, it's definitely an international purchase due to the currency conversion notice in my receipt.

It would make more sense to ship from the US since it's a USPC deck, but the shipping issues are a little strange.  Not unheard of (coughDANcoughDAVEcoughBUCKcough) but out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 25, 2012, 06:23:51 AM
What's wrong with 8pm PST? I know it's 12PM in GMT+8 (for China, Hong Kong and Taiwan), but I remember there have been releases at 8pm PST. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 25, 2012, 06:30:15 AM
What's wrong with 8pm PST? I know it's 12PM in GMT+8 (for China, Hong Kong and Taiwan), but I remember there have been releases at 8pm PST. Correct me if I'm wrong.

D&D like to release their items at 8pm PST. These silly brothers released their items at 8pm PST to pretend they're in US. That's why I said they are boring guy... ??? ???
 
At least we know they are not in Europe. 8pm PST is a European unfrinedly time.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 25, 2012, 07:34:14 AM
I think we will all know when we got the package.
But I think I didn't see any currency converter when I order mine.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 25, 2012, 07:41:28 AM
I think we will all know when we got the package.
But I think I didn't see any currency converter when I order mine.

Neither did I. USD to USD  :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: cosmicsecret on February 25, 2012, 07:41:46 AM
Grand Total $34.00
Subtotal    $21.00   
Shipping & Handling (Skulkor Standard Shipping Rate - Fixed)    $13.00   

For 3 decks shipped to Germany.

I thought about getting a brick ,but then the shipping would have been $31 USD.
I donยดt know but when i buy from fullboat dealer or bmppoker they can send up to 17decks for $18USD in a flat rate envelope.
Gonna save my cash for Mana and Seasons decks :)

Edit : and by the way, i really donยดt care about the wax sealed deck....dropping some hot wax on the box and putting a ring into it doesnt make it so special to me.
 
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 25, 2012, 07:53:25 AM
@cosmicsecret, maybe it's because in the East we don't use wax seal.
 
The shipping fee for a brick is also $31 to me, but buying a brick lowers the average cost per deck ($115 / 12). I can resell some of them without a problem. :P
 
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Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Paul Carpenter on February 25, 2012, 09:48:09 AM
This shipping thing perplexes me. It isn't that hard to work out, and in the US you can easily determine your cost. They must be intl because there is really nothing to "negotiate" otherwise. but even then, their costs are astronomical! So odd to make almost all their customers rethink the purchase or not bother. And why 8 weeks to ship? I thought the deck was printed? Seems like there are some things they aren't being truthful about. 
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: runIt on February 25, 2012, 09:51:49 AM
DITTO. Got the same thoughts.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 09:57:07 AM
This shipping thing perplexes me. It isn't that hard to work out, and in the US you can easily determine your cost. They must be intl because there is really nothing to "negotiate" otherwise. but even then, their costs are astronomical! So odd to make almost all their customers rethink the purchase or not bother. And why 8 weeks to ship? I thought the deck was printed? Seems like there are some things they aren't being truthful about.
I feel the same way. Their "dark" site and cultish ways are weird, and to a company that is just starting out, and already selling rings, magic, cards, etc., it feels like their is something he doesn't want us to know. Making people think they are based in the US (well he never said that, but we all assumed it) does make it feel like he is hiding something from us, and it does rub me the wrong way. They could be 100% honest, but as of this point I'm not sure how I feel about this.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 25, 2012, 10:30:57 AM
Making people think they are based in the US (well he never said that, but we all assumed it)...

If they are not in US, they had to say this when one of their brothers came to this forum. Up to now, I still don't know the stock and finish of the decks. Similiar to White Lion is the answer... damn, somehow I want to cancel the order... :'(
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 10:35:23 AM
Making people think they are based in the US (well he never said that, but we all assumed it)...

If they are not in US, they had to say this when one of their brothers came to this forum. Up to now, I still don't know the stock and finish of the decks. Similiar to White Lion is the answer... damn, somehow I want to cancel the order... :'(

I wouldn't cancel if I were you, but saying "Similar to White Lions" is no awnser. I'd rather him say "It's our own secret blend" or something like that
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 25, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
I'm actually still going to skip out on these. I feel no need to get them or any of their products. Plus, I'm saving for Seasons decks
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 11:19:44 AM
I'm really feeling unsure about this. First the 500$ deck packages, then the crash, then all these packages etc... Everything makes me feel unsure about my order... at least I'm paying with paypal!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 25, 2012, 11:32:24 AM
I doubt these will have very good resale price. This company seems very odd.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 11:57:21 AM
I ended up buying 1 deck with shipping because:
1) I didn't want to take too many risks
2) I don't find their products too appealing to me.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: VortexHead on February 25, 2012, 01:43:02 PM
I enjoyed the trailers but a good flourishing video would have sufficed, I'm not too keen on the whole brotherhood thing, it's an interesting idea but not something that I would feel much apart of anyway as they put a heavy empahsis on magicians and Im not one. Maybe I'll get a deck sometime down the line but not from the site.

I am interested to know though so can someone explain what the difference is between the red wax seal deck and the regular deck?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 02:07:47 PM
I enjoyed the trailers but a good flourishing video would have sufficed, I'm not too keen on the whole brotherhood thing, it's an interesting idea but not something that I would feel much apart of anyway as they put a heavy empahsis on magicians and Im not one. Maybe I'll get a deck sometime down the line but not from the site.

I am interested to know though so can someone explain what the difference is between the red wax seal deck and the regular deck?

The red wax seal is a normal deck I believe with a small bit of wax dripped into the box, with a stamp (or ring) pressed into it to make the skulk or logo. It is purely for looks.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 25, 2012, 02:08:58 PM
I enjoyed the trailers but a good flourishing video would have sufficed, I'm not too keen on the whole brotherhood thing, it's an interesting idea but not something that I would feel much apart of anyway as they put a heavy empahsis on magicians and Im not one. Maybe I'll get a deck sometime donw the line but not from the site.
 
I am interested to know though so can someone explain what the difference is between the red wax seal deck and the regular deck?

The first trailer was cool and surprising, the 2nd trailer was still not bad, the 3rd trailer was boring to me. I appreciate the lighting, camera movement, filming skill, special effects, etc, but I don't really like the story (somewhat meaningless), not to mention the clumsy fighting motion design (so sxjy0109 and Don, they are impossible in Hong Kong...).

I don't expect there will be any difference between the wax sealed deck and the regular ones :'( :'(
 
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Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 02:10:08 PM
I enjoyed the trailers but a good flourishing video would have sufficed, I'm not too keen on the whole brotherhood thing, it's an interesting idea but not something that I would feel much apart of anyway as they put a heavy empahsis on magicians and Im not one. Maybe I'll get a deck sometime down the line but not from the site.

I am interested to know though so can someone explain what the difference is between the red wax seal deck and the regular deck?
I think the red wax is put on the seal, and a stamp with their logo is stamped onto it while the wax is drying. It adds a bit of style and "antique" feel to the deck, but it's mostly an excuse for them to make more money.

EDIT: loldudex2 beat me to it :P
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: VortexHead on February 25, 2012, 02:27:54 PM
I enjoyed the trailers but a good flourishing video would have sufficed, I'm not too keen on the whole brotherhood thing, it's an interesting idea but not something that I would feel much apart of anyway as they put a heavy empahsis on magicians and Im not one. Maybe I'll get a deck sometime down the line but not from the site.

I am interested to know though so can someone explain what the difference is between the red wax seal deck and the regular deck?

The red wax seal is a normal deck I believe with a small bit of wax dripped into the box, with a stamp (or ring) pressed into it to make the skulk or logo. It is purely for looks.

Okay cheers, it would have been nice for them to change the back design aswell but it's a nice addition to the collection, maybe I'll look for them on the market after a few weeks but I imagine they'll be very expensive at that point.

Cheers NathanCanadas for you input ;)

 
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on February 25, 2012, 03:02:13 PM
i think the wax sealed decks are the same as well but then i notice that for the luxury package, it can include 1 red wax sealed classic uncut sheet. they make it a point to state that it's a red wax sealed uncut which would lead me to think that the red wax decks are different. because if it's just a seal on the tuck box, the uncuts would be the same.

another thing is, they called it a classic uncut sheet...i assume it's just the regular deck but if u read the item description for the regular decks it says every brick includes a wax sealed classic deck as well which is the red wax sealed deck. so there has to be more than just a red seal on the box. maybe the jokers or the aos are different. but either way it has to be different otherwise they would not refer to it as a red wax sealed classic uncut sheet if the only thing that was different is the box.


also i think they're definitely in north america. when the site first came out the flat rate shipping within north america was 27 and international was 43 or something like that.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 25, 2012, 03:02:28 PM
I enjoyed the trailers but a good flourishing video would have sufficed, I'm not too keen on the whole brotherhood thing, it's an interesting idea but not something that I would feel much apart of anyway as they put a heavy empahsis on magicians and Im not one. Maybe I'll get a deck sometime down the line but not from the site.

I am interested to know though so can someone explain what the difference is between the red wax seal deck and the regular deck?

The red wax seal is a normal deck I believe with a small bit of wax dripped into the box, with a stamp (or ring) pressed into it to make the skulk or logo. It is purely for looks.

Okay cheers, it would have been nice for them to change the back design aswell but it's a nice addition to the collection, maybe I'll look for them on the market after a few weeks but I imagine they'll be very expensive at that point.

Cheers NathanCanadas for you input ;)
I personally don't think that these cards are good enough to cost much more on the market in a few weeks than they do right now.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 25, 2012, 04:14:19 PM
Just read over the issues and all the fishy stuff going on with Skulkor. It's making me glad that I opted out of getting any of their products. I'm still interested in seeing how the shipping, customer service, and cards are in the end though. Those who ordered some keep us updated.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Eyeball on February 25, 2012, 05:25:46 PM
Does anyone know what's the big difference between the Frater and the Omega ring? It's like a $100 difference yet they look pretty much the same..
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 06:19:06 PM
Does anyone know what's the big difference between the Frater and the Omega ring? It's like a $100 difference yet they look pretty much the same..

I've looked on the website and I can't find any information at all about them. Somehow though the three rings are all different.

I just asked this on their FB.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Eyeball on February 25, 2012, 06:27:33 PM
Does anyone know what's the big difference between the Frater and the Omega ring? It's like a $100 difference yet they look pretty much the same..

I've looked on the website and I can't find any information at all about them. Somehow though the three rings are all different.

I just asked this on their FB.


I think the only differences are the reflectivity of the stone on the ring, I believe everything else is the same. I figured out the descriptions for each are slightly different in the last paragraph and the only thing that they mention as different was how the light reflecting off the stone will make the ring change color or whatever.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 25, 2012, 06:59:11 PM
i think the wax sealed decks are the same as well but then i notice that for the luxury package, it can include 1 red wax sealed classic uncut sheet. they make it a point to state that it's a red wax sealed uncut which would lead me to think that the red wax decks are different. because if it's just a seal on the tuck box, the uncuts would be the same.

another thing is, they called it a classic uncut sheet...i assume it's just the regular deck but if u read the item description for the regular decks it says every brick includes a wax sealed classic deck as well which is the red wax sealed deck. so there has to be more than just a red seal on the box. maybe the jokers or the aos are different. but either way it has to be different otherwise they would not refer to it as a red wax sealed classic uncut sheet if the only thing that was different is the box.


also i think they're definitely in north america. when the site first came out the flat rate shipping within north america was 27 and international was 43 or something like that.

I think thread wax seal uncut just means red wak will be dripped onto it with the stamp/ ring pushed into it.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 26, 2012, 12:37:51 AM
Making people think they are based in the US (well he never said that, but we all assumed it)...

If they are not in US, they had to say this when one of their brothers came to this forum. Up to now, I still don't know the stock and finish of the decks. Similiar to White Lion is the answer... damn, somehow I want to cancel the order... :'(

I wouldn't cancel if I were you, but saying "Similar to White Lions" is no awnser. I'd rather him say "It's our own secret blend" or something like that

Do you know what I worry about most? They don't even say which stock and finish were used, I worry that they might not be made by USPC. I don't know, I just don't feel good.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on February 26, 2012, 12:42:06 AM
Making people think they are based in the US (well he never said that, but we all assumed it)...

If they are not in US, they had to say this when one of their brothers came to this forum. Up to now, I still don't know the stock and finish of the decks. Similiar to White Lion is the answer... damn, somehow I want to cancel the order... :'(

I wouldn't cancel if I were you, but saying "Similar to White Lions" is no awnser. I'd rather him say "It's our own secret blend" or something like that

Do you know what I worry about most? They don't even say which stock and finish were used, I worry that they might not be made by USPC. I don't know, I just don't feel good.

they said there more springy and slicker better than the white lions would be awesome if they are and they may be seems like they have the money to afford it from somewhere laughs where did they get this money hope the brothers dont get aressted haha joke
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 26, 2012, 12:59:07 AM
@phantom/Lalita: there was no currency conversion on the PayPal page - but there wasn't one when I ordered from Zenneth Kok in Hong Kong, either.  But for both transactions, the emailed receipt stated the rules covering currency conversion.  I'm assuming that this means there was a currency conversion that took place.  None of my other PayPal receipts for domestic purchases have this notice in them.

@digipunk, @loldudex2: comparing the stock to White Lions seems like a good description to me, really - certainly better than someone telling me it's their secret blend!  Secret blend of what - goat milk, mud and straw?  And it is to the best of my knowledge a USPC deck - one of the tuck box images stated as much on the side.

Gang, they're not in the US, and I doubt they're in North America.  The messages they've posted that I've seen thus far seemed like they were written by someone for whom English is not their native language.  I doubt that they're either Mexican or Quebecois...  If forced to guess, I'd say somewhere in Asia.  We all assumed they were in the US based on the polished website they produced - but that could easily have been done simply by hiring an American company to handle the design and the video productions.

Beyond that, though, I see no reason to believe that they're untrustworthy as of yet.  Ambitious, perhaps.  Biting off a little more than they could chew, maybe.  But outright untrustworthy?  If that was the case, it would be simpler to rip people off by accepting credit and debit card charges directly instead of using PayPal as a middleman, right?

Regarding the long shipping time, well...  They may be trying to save themselves the costs of international shipping without passing on the savings to the customers.  Wouldn't be the first time that's happened.  Who remembers that auction for seven Moth/Myth decks from Western Australia which had a shipping charge of over US$60?

I got a small number of decks just to check them out.  Not buying into the hype of wax seals and gemstone rings.  They're trying to be a Dan and Dave without having the same level of credibility, even at its more recent low.

There's also supposed to be something about how the rings have a hidden image inside the gemstone - I read that somewhere on their site, can't remember where exactly.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 26, 2012, 01:25:10 AM
I think they are probably based is North America somewhere because the shipping is cheaper in North America.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 26, 2012, 05:47:31 AM
I think they are probably based is North America somewhere because the shipping is cheaper in North America.

A flat rate Priority Mail envelope costs less than what they're charging me to ship three decks and it arrives in two to three days.  They're stating up to eight weeks for delivery - that's ocean shipping time, not air freight time.  I could drive from one corner of the contiguous 48 states to the opposite corner in less than eight weeks.  Hell, I could drive one lap around those states at the national border/ocean shore in less time!

The only possible currency conversions in North America would be Mexican pesos, Canadian dollars or the currencies of a handful of Caribbean and Central American countries.  I can't imagine where in North America it would be, excluding the US.  Canada, maybe, but I just don't think so - it's that whole broken English thing.  Canadians don't speak exactly the same English as Americans, but it's close enough!

Tell me, Aaron - where do you think they would be if they're in North America?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 26, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
So, who bought the skulkor deck or something else that they have for sale?

I havent bought any yet and I'm in no hurry to do so. I don't like the design much and they havent told us what the stock and finish is so its probably nothing special.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on February 26, 2012, 12:37:55 PM
So, who bought the skulkor deck or something else that they have for sale?

I havent bought any yet and I'm in no hurry to do so. I don't like the design much and they havent told us what the stock and finish is so its probably nothing special.
I`m not going to get any of these. With all the new decks coming out I would rather get those than a mediocre deck from a start-up company if a new company is going to suceed you have to make something spectacular (Tendril, Vortex, Russels decks, ect.) You cant have just a decent deck and do very well. Also this weird brotherhood thing drives me crazy.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 26, 2012, 06:35:14 PM
It's a silly ad campaign, yes.  I bought three decks.  I like the style, despite their lack of full customization, and if the stock is as described, it sounds like it would be pretty smooth-handling.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on February 26, 2012, 06:51:38 PM
A flat rate Priority Mail envelope costs less than what they're charging me to ship three decks and it arrives in two to three days.  They're stating up to eight weeks for delivery - that's ocean shipping time, not air freight time.  I could drive from one corner of the contiguous 48 states to the opposite corner in less than eight weeks.  Hell, I could drive one lap around those states at the national border/ocean shore in less time!

The only possible currency conversions in North America would be Mexican pesos, Canadian dollars or the currencies of a handful of Caribbean and Central American countries.  I can't imagine where in North America it would be, excluding the US.  Canada, maybe, but I just don't think so - it's that whole broken English thing.  Canadians don't speak exactly the same English as Americans, but it's close enough!

Tell me, Aaron - where do you think they would be if they're in North America?

and that would apply if that were the case here but since it isnt i dont know what it has to do with anything. they're not saying that they're shipping it out as soon as u order and it'll arrive within 8 weeks, they're saying they'll start shipping them out in 8 weeks.

so when you look at the shipping and it costs 27 within north america and 43 or whatever it is internationally, that's a big indication that they're based in north america or at least the decks will be shipped from north america. how much a priority envelope costs is irrelevant as they've already stated that it's just a fixed price and not an actual estimate based on what you've order. so that being said, if the shipping costs less to get any of their products shipped within north america than it does internationally, it stands to reason that they're based in north america. one other possibility is that they're based overseas but will have a distributor ship the products from somewhere within north america.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 26, 2012, 09:37:18 PM
It's a silly ad campaign, yes.  I bought three decks.  I like the style, despite their lack of full customization, and if the stock is as described, it sounds like it would be pretty smooth-handling.

You think that someone who wrote a huge thread about customization, and the art of design would fully customize this deck. It's especially dissapointing due to the fact that he put so much time into everything out (rings, bracelets, clips, etc.). I just feel if were to put that much effort to detail in everything else, half o which doesn't matter, I would at least customize the deck entirely.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 26, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
It's a silly ad campaign, yes.  I bought three decks.  I like the style, despite their lack of full customization, and if the stock is as described, it sounds like it would be pretty smooth-handling.

You think that someone who wrote a huge thread about customization, and the art of design would fully customize this deck. It's especially dissapointing due to the fact that he put so much time into everything out (rings, bracelets, clips, etc.). I just feel if were to put that much effort to detail in everything else, half o which doesn't matter, I would at least customize the deck entirely.

I didn't want to be the first to say it, but Loldude hit the nail on the head! Honestly if you're going to talk the talk you should walk the walk. This deck is a huge disappointment from a looks point of view!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 26, 2012, 09:50:40 PM
It's a silly ad campaign, yes.  I bought three decks.  I like the style, despite their lack of full customization, and if the stock is as described, it sounds like it would be pretty smooth-handling.

You think that someone who wrote a huge thread about customization, and the art of design would fully customize this deck. It's especially dissapointing due to the fact that he put so much time into everything out (rings, bracelets, clips, etc.). I just feel if were to put that much effort to detail in everything else, half o which doesn't matter, I would at least customize the deck entirely.

I didn't want to be the first to say it, but Loldude hit the nail on the head! Honestly if you're going to talk the talk you should walk the walk. This deck is a huge disappointment from a looks point of view!

Thanks. I love the backs, and especially the jokers. I love how he has created a community (even though I feel like a cult is forming). When decks use bike faces, such as Mana, it doesn't bother me, but when you go this far to make your product perfect, why settle for good, when you could go for great?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 26, 2012, 09:55:09 PM
It's a silly ad campaign, yes.  I bought three decks.  I like the style, despite their lack of full customization, and if the stock is as described, it sounds like it would be pretty smooth-handling.

You think that someone who wrote a huge thread about customization, and the art of design would fully customize this deck. It's especially dissapointing due to the fact that he put so much time into everything out (rings, bracelets, clips, etc.). I just feel if were to put that much effort to detail in everything else, half o which doesn't matter, I would at least customize the deck entirely.

I didn't want to be the first to say it, but Loldude hit the nail on the head! Honestly if you're going to talk the talk you should walk the walk. This deck is a huge disappointment from a looks point of view!

Thanks. I love the backs, and especially the jokers. I love how he has created a community (even though I feel like a cult is forming). When decks use bike faces, such as Mana, it doesn't bother me, but when you go this far to make your product perfect, why settle for good, when you could go for great?

1. Total cult vibe haha
2. The jokers do looks pretty nice
3. The backs have almost nothing that sets them apart from most other decks.
4. Standard faces

After you make a long post about how bad other decks are you are really putting a lot of expectations on your own. In this case I considered it a big letdown.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on February 26, 2012, 10:01:33 PM
It's a silly ad campaign, yes.  I bought three decks.  I like the style, despite their lack of full customization, and if the stock is as described, it sounds like it would be pretty smooth-handling.

You think that someone who wrote a huge thread about customization, and the art of design would fully customize this deck. It's especially dissapointing due to the fact that he put so much time into everything out (rings, bracelets, clips, etc.). I just feel if were to put that much effort to detail in everything else, half o which doesn't matter, I would at least customize the deck entirely.

I didn't want to be the first to say it, but Loldude hit the nail on the head! Honestly if you're going to talk the talk you should walk the walk. This deck is a huge disappointment from a looks point of view!

Thanks. I love the backs, and especially the jokers. I love how he has created a community (even though I feel like a cult is forming). When decks use bike faces, such as Mana, it doesn't bother me, but when you go this far to make your product perfect, why settle for good, when you could go for great?

1. Total cult vibe haha
2. The jokers do looks pretty nice
3. The backs have almost nothing that sets them apart from most other decks.
4. Standard faces

After you make a long post about how bad other decks are you are really putting a lot of expectations on your own. In this case I considered it a big letdown.

at least the front of the box looks awesome haha i really like the box i wish it was the other way and i loved the cards more and hopefully the handeling and stock will be awesome too if it is like the white lions or more slick and spring ie as they say
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 26, 2012, 10:19:41 PM
at least the front of the box looks awesome haha i really like the box i wish it was the other way and i loved the cards more and hopefully the handeling and stock will be awesome too if it is like the white lions or more slick and spring ie as they say

The boxes are not good enough. Look at those T11 boxes (Monarchs, Chrity:Water, ...), they don't have white cut edges. I noticed the white edges of the Skulkor boxes when first time I saw the pics, not good enough... :'(
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on February 26, 2012, 10:22:53 PM
at least the front of the box looks awesome haha i really like the box i wish it was the other way and i loved the cards more and hopefully the handeling and stock will be awesome too if it is like the white lions or more slick and spring ie as they say

The boxes are not good enough. Look at those T11 boxes (Monarchs, Chrity:Water, ...), they don't have white cut edges. I noticed the white edges of the Skulkor boxes when first time I saw the pics, not good enough... :'(

i dont see any white edges http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=106340129493561&set=a.106329986161242.4719.100003527229985&type=3&theater
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 26, 2012, 10:27:58 PM
Boxes are great, but boxes are like people. It's on the inside that counts. Remember the Monarchs? Great boxes, ok decks, which doesn't cut it! Don't run 3/4ths of a marathon. Push through it, and finish what you started.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on February 26, 2012, 10:31:32 PM
Boxes are great, but boxes are like people. It's on the inside that counts. Remember the Monarchs? Great boxes, ok decks, which doesn't cut it! Don't run 3/4ths of a marathon. Push through it, and finish what you started.

haha i agree but at least in my opinion there good and not both terrible outside and inside the backs are starting to grow on me they look cool on the trailer

Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 26, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
Boxes are great, but boxes are like people. It's on the inside that counts. Remember the Monarchs? Great boxes, ok decks, which doesn't cut it! Don't run 3/4ths of a marathon. Push through it, and finish what you started.

haha i agree but at least in my opinion there good and not both terrible outside and inside the backs are starting to grow on me they look cool on the trailer

If I get some, I will keep them sealed purely for the box, same reason why I got Monarchs.
I do very much like the backs. I know it seems like I'm completely bashing this deck, but I'm not trying to all out hate it. I'm trying to let PoundFFFFF (Or however many F's) what I think he should change if he ever were too create another deck.


P.S. Thats the point of the trailer, to make the product look good, even if it isn't necessarily great :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 27, 2012, 02:23:01 AM
Boxes are great, but boxes are like people. It's on the inside that counts. Remember the Monarchs? Great boxes, ok decks, which doesn't cut it! Don't run 3/4ths of a marathon. Push through it, and finish what you started.

haha i agree but at least in my opinion there good and not both terrible outside and inside the backs are starting to grow on me they look cool on the trailer

If I get some, I will keep them sealed purely for the box, same reason why I got Monarchs.
I do very much like the backs. I know it seems like I'm completely bashing this deck, but I'm not trying to all out hate it. I'm trying to let PoundFFFFF (Or however many F's) what I think he should change if he ever were too create another deck.


P.S. Thats the point of the trailer, to make the product look good, even if it isn't necessarily great :)

@brown_baggs, @loldudex2: You two do realize that PoundFFFFFF only designed the back of the deck as a commissioned work and had nothing to do with the rest of the deck or Skulkor, right?  That you're ripping into him for making such a blah deck when it's not even his deck?  That a commissioned work doesn't usually allow you free reign to create what you wish, but instead forces you to create what the customer wants and has contracted your services for?

The man has opinions on the topic of design.  Agree or don't, but get over it already.  Stop ragging on him for things that he had absolutely no control over.  I expect better from you guys, really - I like the both of you but this whole mess is misdirected.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 27, 2012, 03:34:46 AM
I'm not completely ragging on him. I ragged on him a little and on the deck a lot. I still stand by what I say for the back. I didn't totally rip into him. Just as much as you or anybody else has on people on here. Thanks for letting us know that he only did the back. I guess he isn't to blame for the other parts of the deck. Nonetheless, I'm just stating my opinion.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 27, 2012, 05:07:39 AM
I'm not completely ragging on him. I ragged on him a little and on the deck a lot. I still stand by what I say for the back. I didn't totally rip into him. Just as much as you or anybody else has on people on here. Thanks for letting us know that he only did the back. I guess he isn't to blame for the other parts of the deck. Nonetheless, I'm just stating my opinion.

Rag on the deck to your heart's content, but you were also dragging in his long posts about his thoughts on deck design, which some found a bit polarizing.  I try not to make it too personal these days; I'll go after someone's ideas and opinions rather than the person when I can.  I rag on Merz67's deck design constantly like it's my personal whipping boy, but I've only had good experiences with Merz67 as a retailer, so I pass on praise about that - his shop's surprisingly well stocked, with some items that can be hard to find (aside from his own designs).  I regret not snapping up his mini Tally Ho decks when I had the chance.

But you get my point.  He has little to do with the deck, and that little he does have to do with it was the result of being commissioned to do someone else's bidding.  I have a buddy who works in graphic design and he tells me some of the things his clients request are absolutely horrific - he does his level-headed best to talk them out of it, but if that fails, he gives them what they want which often results in them thinking it looks like crap, but it's like ordering a cake from a bakery and telling the baker precisely how you want it baked despite having no baking experience whatsoever.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 27, 2012, 05:13:22 AM
A collector called Jeremy did some researches and found they are based in HK. He wanted to post the following pic but the account hasn't get approved yet.
 
Thank you, Jeremy.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 27, 2012, 05:26:19 AM
A collector called Jeremy did some researches and found they are based in HK. He wanted to post the following pic but the account hasn't get approved yet.
 
Thank you, Jeremy.

YES, thank you, Jeremy!  I knew they weren't U.S.-domestic, and I strongly thought I saw Hong Kong somewhere when I ordered...  Now we know what the deal with the shipping is.  I still remember the huge shipping I paid on the Bike Clot decks I bought from Clot Designs, Ltd.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on February 27, 2012, 05:32:10 AM
Shipping international. When I orderd 55 decks and the white porpers was 49 dollars. To the UK and after the shipping prices changed now it should be 180 people who had high charges are getting  refunds and people who payed way low like me they'll pay the rest for you they said they have there brothers backs
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: loldudex2 on February 27, 2012, 06:06:48 AM
@Don Boyer
I'm sorry. I didn't know that he was only commissioned for the back of the deck. I also wasn't trying to completely rage on him because I quite honestly think the backs look cool. I just didn't get why so much work was put into everything else when the deck could have been better, but now that I realize that he had no control makes a lot more sense, and I'm not as disappointed as I was before.

I know I was being a little harsh on Pound, but that is before I knew that he only designed the back, and I am sorry. I must've missed that post that said he only was commissioned the back.

Although, I take back what I said to Pound (Because he did great on the backs), I would just like to redirect it to the Skulkor company in general, because although what I said about the whole "Design" thread that pound made is irrelevant, I still feel strongly about everything else that was said before, and I feel what I said still applies for the company as a whole, and especially the head of this company.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 27, 2012, 10:30:14 AM
A collector called Jeremy did some researches and found they are based in HK. He wanted to post the following pic but the account hasn't get approved yet.
 
Thank you, Jeremy.

YES, thank you, Jeremy!  I knew they weren't U.S.-domestic, and I strongly thought I saw Hong Kong somewhere when I ordered...  Now we know what the deal with the shipping is.  I still remember the huge shipping I paid on the Bike Clot decks I bought from Clot Designs, Ltd.

Do you remember that sxjy0109 tried his HK address and found the shipping fee to HK was more expensive than to Canada. What do they plan to hide?  ??? ???
 
 
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: dmbaggs on February 27, 2012, 04:03:17 PM
I'm not completely ragging on him. I ragged on him a little and on the deck a lot. I still stand by what I say for the back. I didn't totally rip into him. Just as much as you or anybody else has on people on here. Thanks for letting us know that he only did the back. I guess he isn't to blame for the other parts of the deck. Nonetheless, I'm just stating my opinion.

Rag on the deck to your heart's content, but you were also dragging in his long posts about his thoughts on deck design, which some found a bit polarizing.  I try not to make it too personal these days; I'll go after someone's ideas and opinions rather than the person when I can.  I rag on Merz67's deck design constantly like it's my personal whipping boy, but I've only had good experiences with Merz67 as a retailer, so I pass on praise about that - his shop's surprisingly well stocked, with some items that can be hard to find (aside from his own designs).  I regret not snapping up his mini Tally Ho decks when I had the chance.

But you get my point.  He has little to do with the deck, and that little he does have to do with it was the result of being commissioned to do someone else's bidding.  I have a buddy who works in graphic design and he tells me some of the things his clients request are absolutely horrific - he does his level-headed best to talk them out of it, but if that fails, he gives them what they want which often results in them thinking it looks like crap, but it's like ordering a cake from a bakery and telling the baker precisely how you want it baked despite having no baking experience whatsoever.

Yeah I understand how commissioned work goes. I don't need some little lesson in it. I have three friends who are graphic designs and illustrators. I know the ropes. Nonetheless Poundffff spoke about the whole design process (some of it I agreed with and some I didn't). The fact is we don't know how much of it was his idea or not. It being his work I expected more and I honestly thought it was a pretty terrible back. I'm sure he's a fine artist and I know the rest of the deck isn't his work. In the end I was just commenting on how he talked so much about good designing and he couldn't follow through in his own work.

It may not have been totally his fault being a commissioned piece but he did choose to do it. In the end I'm going to speak my mind about it, I'll just try to not rag on Poundffff as much.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on February 27, 2012, 04:49:24 PM
so they're based in hong kong, i guess that's why they keep mentioning how they have to talk to their shipping company. i think they're having a fulfillment company ship it out in north america kinda like what circle city is doing with the americana decks.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 27, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
Do you remember that sxjy0109 tried his HK address and found the shipping fee to HK was more expensive than to Canada. What do they plan to hide?  ??? ???

I guess it makes more sense to them if they kept the stock where there were printed and ship from there. Otherwise they'll have to put more money into shipping from US to HK, then the packaging for hundreds of orders (yes. probably not thousands). I wouldn't really say they were necessarily HIDING something, it's just they never really talked about their origin with the whole brotherhood thing going on.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on February 27, 2012, 07:14:08 PM
i asked them who they were sending it with


Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 27, 2012, 08:33:30 PM
So they must be shipping from the US
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 27, 2012, 09:16:13 PM
I guess it makes more sense to them if they kept the stock where there were printed and ship from there. Otherwise they'll have to put more money into shipping from US to HK, then the packaging for hundreds of orders (yes. probably not thousands). I wouldn't really say they were necessarily HIDING something, it's just they never really talked about their origin with the whole brotherhood thing going on.
If and only if the decks are made by USPC. ???
 
Skulkor (http://www.facebook.com/Skulkor) ‎Zagan Zaz Hall (http://www.facebook.com/zagan.hall) Currently our carrier ships our order through USPS,  but we'll always try to negotiate and find the best offer for our supporters.
They may still say "finally we found a carrier that is better than USPS, so we don't use it..."
 
@sxjy0109 and @zaganh, actually I don't care about where the company is (or where it was registered). This is a matter of attitude. If they are in HK, please behave like Zenneth. Now I paid more than $100, and I still don't know where the company is (though not really important to me) and the name of the stock and finish.
 
I don't really care about where they are. Why? Because of the spirit of the brotherhood, it's one world now. The shipping fee of 3 decks are $13+ for all of us. (3 decks to Don is $13.94, and 3 decks for me is $13.49, USPS?)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 27, 2012, 09:45:58 PM
I don't care either about their location. I would just like them to be honest and clear about their location, stock, finish, and products.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on February 28, 2012, 02:55:40 AM
Shipping international. When I orderd 55 decks and the white porpers was 49 dollars. To the UK and after the shipping prices changed now it should be 180 people who had high charges are getting  refunds and people who payed way low like me they'll pay the rest for you they said they have there brothers backs

Sounds like they were having shipping calculation glitches like D&D and Blue Crown have in the past.  I don't see why it should be so hard to figure out what it costs to ship something automatically - this ain't the Stone Age!

@Don Boyer
I'm sorry. I didn't know that he was only commissioned for the back of the deck. I also wasn't trying to completely rage on him because I quite honestly think the backs look cool. I just didn't get why so much work was put into everything else when the deck could have been better, but now that I realize that he had no control makes a lot more sense, and I'm not as disappointed as I was before.

I know I was being a little harsh on Pound, but that is before I knew that he only designed the back, and I am sorry. I must've missed that post that said he only was commissioned the back.

Although, I take back what I said to Pound (Because he did great on the backs), I would just like to redirect it to the Skulkor company in general, because although what I said about the whole "Design" thread that pound made is irrelevant, I still feel strongly about everything else that was said before, and I feel what I said still applies for the company as a whole, and especially the head of this company.


Yeah I understand how commissioned work goes. I don't need some little lesson in it. I have three friends who are graphic designs and illustrators. I know the ropes. Nonetheless Poundffff spoke about the whole design process (some of it I agreed with and some I didn't). The fact is we don't know how much of it was his idea or not. It being his work I expected more and I honestly thought it was a pretty terrible back. I'm sure he's a fine artist and I know the rest of the deck isn't his work. In the end I was just commenting on how he talked so much about good designing and he couldn't follow through in his own work.

It may not have been totally his fault being a commissioned piece but he did choose to do it. In the end I'm going to speak my mind about it, I'll just try to not rag on Poundffff as much.

That was my point - bust on the idea to your heart's content, but it's not necessary to make it personal.  A free exchange of opinions doesn't have to get down and dirty.  You weren't totally ripping into him, yes, but...  Well, I've said enough, I'll just leave it at that.  I appreciate that you understood my point of view, and forgive me if I came off as a little too didactic or obnoxious.  We're all friends around here!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on February 28, 2012, 03:03:30 AM
Shipping international. When I orderd 55 decks and the white porpers was 49 dollars. To the UK and after the shipping prices changed now it should be 180 people who had high charges are getting  refunds and people who payed way low like me they'll pay the rest for you they said they have there brothers backs

Sounds like they were having shipping calculation glitches like D&D and Blue Crown have in the past.  I don't see why it should be so hard to figure out what it costs to ship something automatically - this ain't the Stone Age!

at least they didnt want more money like dan and dave if i hadnt of payed with gift vouchers they would of cancled my order still they gave me a discount but it was nice skulkor will pay the rest apart from the brotherhood thing they sound awesome i want to feel this stock and finish 8 weeks >< its like when i ordred the fultons and they didnt have them for a few week




Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 29, 2012, 03:26:11 AM
Quoted from their FB update:

To Brothers and Sisters - Skulkor Deck Updates -

Due to licensing and registration, we were unable to reveal the name for the stock or finishes for our Skulkor Deck. Now we have solved the problem! The stock we use is Aristocrat with Linen Finish. Thank you for your patience and your support!

Skulkor
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 29, 2012, 03:58:49 AM
And they confirmed that the decks are USPCC decks.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 29, 2012, 04:01:49 AM
Quoted from their FB update:

To Brothers and Sisters - Skulkor Deck Updates -

Due to licensing and registration, we were unable to reveal the name for the stock or finishes for our Skulkor Deck. Now we have solved the problem! The stock we use is Aristocrat with Linen Finish. Thank you for your patience and your support!

Skulkor
Thanks! But I can not 100% trust these brothers... :-\
They should have been very proud to say this unless the decks were not manufactured by USPC.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on February 29, 2012, 04:06:36 AM
Quoted from their FB update:

To Brothers and Sisters - Skulkor Deck Updates -

Due to licensing and registration, we were unable to reveal the name for the stock or finishes for our Skulkor Deck. Now we have solved the problem! The stock we use is Aristocrat with Linen Finish. Thank you for your patience and your support!

Skulkor
Thanks! But I can not 100% trust these brothers... :-\
They should have been very proud to say this unless the decks were not manufactured by USPC.

is linen a good finish isnt magic better ?

it has from uspcc on the box
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on February 29, 2012, 04:18:21 AM
Someone asked about that and they confirmed that their decks are manufactured by USPCC.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 29, 2012, 04:23:23 AM
is linen a good finish isnt magic better ?

it has from uspcc on the box

Linen Finish is not bad and not all decks that used Magic Finish wrote it on the boxes.
Thanks, I found "UNITED STATES PLAYING CARDS COMPANY" on the side of the wax seal Skulkor deck.
 
A USPCC made deck with Aristocrat Stock and Linen Finish... now I forgive those brothers under the glory of our brotherhood.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 29, 2012, 02:42:49 PM
Hmm... Linen Finish and Aristocrat stock is a new combo! (I think)
I don't think I own any Linen finish decks but I've heard good things about them. This makes me want to order them to try out Linen finish and the new combo!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Paul Carpenter on February 29, 2012, 02:47:17 PM
I'm not 100% on the stock, but the Aristocrat decks are Linen finish and I think Aristocrat stock. They handle well and feel slightly "thinner" to me. Perhaps just slightly less slippery than Magic finish.

I still don't get the big deal why they couldn't just say what they were. I'm not aware of any legal USPCC reasons about "licensing and registration." I've been talking about stocks on Tendril for months, and certainly haven't heard a peep about it. Odd.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 29, 2012, 02:51:43 PM
I still don't get the big deal why they couldn't just say what they were. I'm not aware of any legal USPCC reasons about "licensing and registration." I've been talking about stocks on Tendril for months, and certainly haven't heard a peep about it. Odd.
They probably just forgot to tell us... or they didn't want to tell us but now they decided to tell us.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on February 29, 2012, 02:56:51 PM
I'm not 100% on the stock, but the Aristocrat decks are Linen finish and I think Aristocrat stock. They handle well and feel slightly "thinner" to me. Perhaps just slightly less slippery than Magic finish.

I still don't get the big deal why they couldn't just say what they were. I'm not aware of any legal USPCC reasons about "licensing and registration." I've been talking about stocks on Tendril for months, and certainly haven't heard a peep about it. Odd.

I don't need very slippery decks, but I do want the Aristocrat stock. Besides, I like thin decks much more and please don't tell me Tendril is a thick deck. The Aristocrat 727 reprints are not thin if compared to the original.
 
But I agree with you that they have too many excuses. I don't believe what they said about "licensing and registration" either. That sounds like bullshit to me. However, since the deck is made by USPC with Aristocrat stock, I guess I will be very satisfied with it.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on February 29, 2012, 09:19:26 PM
I think they read this post and see that people are doubting them.
So they have to tell us about the decks.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on February 29, 2012, 10:36:45 PM
I think they read this post and see that people are doubting them.
So they have to tell us about the decks.
Hmm I don't think thats the case but its certainly possible.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 29, 2012, 11:02:02 PM
I do think Phantom is right. They also confirmed their shipping location after we posted about it in the forums.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on March 01, 2012, 01:16:07 AM
I think they read this post and see that people are doubting them.
So they have to tell us about the decks.
Hmm I don't think thats the case but its certainly possible.

Wasn't there a member here who told us about him working on the Skulkor even before the release of the products, launching of their website or even their facebook page? I'm pretty sure he posted on Discourse.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on March 01, 2012, 05:50:29 PM
I think they read this post and see that people are doubting them.
So they have to tell us about the decks.
Hmm I don't think thats the case but its certainly possible.

Wasn't there a member here who told us about him working on the Skulkor even before the release of the products, launching of their website or even their facebook page? I'm pretty sure he posted on Discourse.
His username was PoundFFFFF (I don't know how many f's there were)
He posted here at the beginning of this thread but I haven't seen a post from him in a while.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on March 01, 2012, 06:38:23 PM
I think they read this post and see that people are doubting them.
So they have to tell us about the decks.
Hmm I don't think thats the case but its certainly possible.

Wasn't there a member here who told us about him working on the Skulkor even before the release of the products, launching of their website or even their facebook page? I'm pretty sure he posted on Discourse.
His username was PoundFFFFF (I don't know how many f's there were)
He posted here at the beginning of this thread but I haven't seen a post from him in a while.
Yeah, he left when the conversation started getting heated :(
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on March 01, 2012, 07:50:09 PM
Here's an interesting conversation on a Skulkor post on Facebook.
It makes no sense to me why they are holding off the shipping.




Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on March 01, 2012, 08:22:04 PM
Here's an interesting conversation on a Skulkor post on Facebook.
It makes no sense to me why they are holding off the shipping.

It makes much sense to me, everyone knows I love these brothers and knows they probably not in US and knows they say they will use USPS to ship items...
 
As I mentioned earlier, if they are in US, then it's very funny that the shipping fees for us are almost the same. The world is united under God.
 
If they are not in US, they might need to ship the decks to US first and then use USPS to ship them to buyers in US. Holding decks for several weeks makes much sense to me. Don't get me wrong, everyone knows I love these brothers now. ???
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Paul Carpenter on March 01, 2012, 08:41:42 PM
International or not, an 8 WEEK hold on a product that is supposedly printed and ready is ridiculous. In theory, if I called up USPCC today, wired them the money and told them to print my deck asap, it's possible that I could have it in hand and start shipping it out to people before the Skulkor folk get their stuff out. It just makes no sense why they are doing that. Unless it's one guy putting together perhaps 3 packages a day and wants to get them all done before heading to the post office. I've got nearly 900 packages to put together for Tendril and can't imagine it would take 8 weeks to get things packaged up.

That one, like so many things with this company, just perplex me.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on March 01, 2012, 11:33:21 PM
First look at what the Skulkor Package Brick looks like! I wouldn't buy a brick because I'm not a fan of the deck but its still really cool looking.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on March 01, 2012, 11:35:42 PM
whoa...good thing i got 4 bricks for free. that box is sweet. if it comes with that box then the price of 84 per brick is pretty hard to beat for a custom deck.

yea i know they didnt customize the pips or face cards. but they removed the bicycle branding which to my knowledge makes the cost of the decks higher. i wonder how they're making money off the cards if it's being shipped in that box. cuz they already gave away over 5000 dollars worth of credit in their contests.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: CBJ on March 01, 2012, 11:58:09 PM
It actually makes the decks cheaper to not have the Bicycle/Bee/Tall-Ho branding on it.

On a 2,500-5,000 print run... if you don't have the Bicycle Branding on it... you save over 50 cents per deck!

That's a $1250-2500 savings

CBJ
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on March 02, 2012, 12:10:47 AM
It actually makes the decks cheaper to not have the Bicycle/Bee/Tall-Ho branding on it.

On a 2,500-5,000 print run... if you don't have the Bicycle Branding on it... you save over 50 cents per deck!

That's a $1250-2500 savings

CBJ

ahh ic, makes sense i guess since it's brand recognition.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on March 02, 2012, 12:26:26 AM
hi fives danktrees wooo 4 bricks each do we get 2 red waxs ones in each now or 1 haha ? why wont they just send them are they insane its anoying me now i know there printed and they wont send them i was up all night trying to order them to be one of the first to have them sent out when they launched
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on March 02, 2012, 12:27:55 AM
@MagicAddictz - You posted that pic right before me  >:( oh well... I does look nice though!!!!!!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Jin Jian on March 02, 2012, 01:38:57 AM
the brick box picture which magicaddictz post , you will only get it if you buy the luxury or royal package and blood package .. blood package will be a new package that they are going to have
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on March 02, 2012, 01:41:06 AM
the brick box picture which magicaddictz post , you will only get it if you buy the luxury or royal package and blood package .. blood package will be a new package that they are going to have

i thought every brick came in that where did you hear this ? also i got 2 luxury packages so will i have 4 cases ?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on March 02, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
Hmm... Linen Finish and Aristocrat stock is a new combo! (I think)
I don't think I own any Linen finish decks but I've heard good things about them. This makes me want to order them to try out Linen finish and the new combo!


The Aristo Banknote reprints were the same combination.



Here's an interesting conversation on a Skulkor post on Facebook.
It makes no sense to me why they are holding off the shipping.


It makes all the sense in the world, if they're planning to use the payments to pay for the print job and are BS'ing about the decks being printed already.

I think these guys decided it would be great to make a magic company that creates cards solely for the profit motive, and now they're seeing that their secretive natures are getting the best of them.  I'm tempted to cancel my order with all this shiftiness they're displaying.


the brick box picture which magicaddictz post , you will only get it if you buy the luxury or royal package and blood package .. blood package will be a new package that they are going to have


i thought every brick came in that where did you hear this ? also i got 2 luxury packages so will i have 4 cases ?

52cartes wrote that this box is available only for orders of TWO bricks, not just one.  If I remember correctly, it's one red wax sealed deck per brick order, and the case in the photo has two of them.  This may be a box large enough to hold two bricks.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on March 02, 2012, 11:01:03 AM


i thought every brick came in that where did you hear this ? also i got 2 luxury packages so will i have 4 cases ?


52cartes wrote that this box is available only for orders of TWO bricks, not just one.  If I remember correctly, it's one red wax sealed deck per brick order, and the case in the photo has two of them.  This may be a box large enough to hold two bricks.


i asked them each one holds a brick of decks i get four of those wood brick boxes i dont know why all the secrecy haha its crazy theres no way we will all get them the same time
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Gunshy1 on March 02, 2012, 11:05:24 AM
@don boyer what happened to your fame? its showing only like 30 some for me. yesterday it was 100+


honestly im a bit confused why everyone is putting up with the shiftyness of all this. if DnD did this or any other well known company people would be up in arms. just because the company is new does NOT make it ok to do what they are doing.

(side note: dnd hasn't released a deck in a few weeks!!!)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: walther on March 02, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
I just realized I was reading that completely wrong. I thought it was buy a brick and get a Red Seal Deck making it 13 Decks. Just dawned on me that it's buy a brick and they'll drip red wax on one of them. I have a blue candle here, anyone want to buy a Black Crown with a blue Wax seal on it? It'll be a one of a kind  ::)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: moonexe on March 02, 2012, 12:01:57 PM
Hmm... Linen Finish and Aristocrat stock is a new combo! (I think)
I don't think I own any Linen finish decks but I've heard good things about them. This makes me want to order them to try out Linen finish and the new combo!
Are you being serious? Linen=Air Cushion with a different name. No more, no less. I though we all knew that already.

I have a blue candle here, anyone want to buy a Black Crown with a blue Wax seal on it? It'll be a one of a kind  ::)
What about an emerald artifice with a silver wax seal? ;D
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on March 02, 2012, 12:08:34 PM
Hmm... Linen Finish and Aristocrat stock is a new combo! (I think)
I don't think I own any Linen finish decks but I've heard good things about them. This makes me want to order them to try out Linen finish and the new combo!
Are you being serious? Linen=Air Cushion with a different name. No more, no less. I though we all knew that already.

I have a blue candle here, anyone want to buy a Black Crown with a blue Wax seal on it? It'll be a one of a kind  ::)
What about an emerald artifice with a silver wax seal? ;D

i have a linen finish deck there called waddingtons they feel diffrent to me than a normal air one finish they feel worse i thought they felt better but i just got them out they dont feel that nice they might be awesome with magic finish and from the uspcc though
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: moonexe on March 02, 2012, 02:37:24 PM
"Linen" is also the term used by many other companies to refer to their own air-cushion-type finish. We're talking about USPC decks here though, and USPC only has two finishes - smooth and air cushion. Aristocrat decks still use the term "linen" for the same reason that Bee decks use "cambric" - it's just part of the branding.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on March 03, 2012, 12:56:24 AM
@don boyer what happened to your fame? its showing only like 30 some for me. yesterday it was 100+


Fame is still in beta, remember?  Go ahead, mess with other people's fame to your heart's content; you'll be helping Alex's test.

"Linen" is also the term used by many other companies to refer to their own air-cushion-type finish. We're talking about USPC decks here though, and USPC only has two finishes - smooth and air cushion. Aristocrat decks still use the term "linen" for the same reason that Bee decks use "cambric" - it's just part of the branding.

Alex said as much a while back.  They offer you two choices of coating, "standard" or "magic finish".  The texturing of the cards is in the paper, not the finish, and the basic brands all have their own copyrighted terms for each.  This is what they've been historically as far as I know, all with the standard finish:

Bee: smooth = "Ivory"; textured = "Cambric"
Aviator: smooth = "Smooth".  Go figure...  Never seen them in a textured finish.
Aladdin and Bicycle: smooth = "Smooth"; textured = "Air Cushion".  One exception to this is the recent CARC release of Pro Bikes on Bee stock, where the smooth decks were called "Ivory Finish"
Tally Ho: textured = "Linoid", as in linen-like.  I've never seen a smooth Tally Ho deck.

At one time in history, perhaps, these were indeed unique formulations of card finish.  Today, they aren't.  Until Magic Finish came along last year, the stock was the only major difference between decks, and even that choice is now limited to variations of Aristocrat, Bicycle and Bee/Bee casino.  Bicycle casino is no longer made, and Tally Ho stock was replaced with a variant of Aristocrat.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on March 03, 2012, 01:46:07 PM
so im pissed off with skulkor and pretty much done with them. I won a free brick and I am waiting 8 weeks for it. Since its free i dont complain. then i find out they have the cool brick box for the decks and the only way to get it is to buy atleast 2 bricks. which means i would have to buy another brick just to get it. honestly once i get my brick trading half keeping the rest and then im done with them. would rather spend my money with aethercards much better stuff IMO.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on March 03, 2012, 04:05:18 PM
well the brick boxes were initially only for the packages that they put up but everyone kept asking for em so now they've said that they'll give them to whoever buys 2 bricks. i dont see anything wrong with that or why you're mad. they could have just said that the boxes are for the packages only and no one else. the thing is that they're now including the boxes at no additional charge to whomever bought 2 bricks, that's money out of their pockets so what is there to complain about. if anything whoever bought the packages like me (although i got it for free) should be mad. since if u look at the price of the package, 2 bricks plus a card clip costs something like 50 dollars more than 2 bricks alone. since the card clip doesnt cost 50 bucks, they already added the price of the brick box to the packages which is why you're paying more for the package. but now everyone else gets them for free so it is what it is.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on March 03, 2012, 04:19:15 PM
You're supposed to get a brick box when you buy a brick... not 2?!?!  :P
Skulkor is doubling it.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on March 03, 2012, 06:57:15 PM
they're doing it as a promotion cuz you're not even supposed to get that brick box unless you buy the packages. but now they're doing it as sort of a promo with a deadline, so u get 2 brick boxes if u buy 2 bricks as opposed to getting none which was the original deal. i dont know what there is to complain about since no one except those who bought the packages were even supposed to get the brick boxes to begin with.

this is what i hate about it when you try to do a nice thing, people always complain. it's the same with the ellusionist bonuses. you're not buying the bonuses themselves, they're just added incentive to make purchases. retail stores do this all the time but i dont see anyone going in there and complaining. however when ellusionist, t11 or in this case, skulkor does this, people start crying about how they dont get free stuff. gimme a break.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: jmrock on March 03, 2012, 08:08:26 PM
so im pissed off with skulkor and pretty much done with them. I won a free brick and I am waiting 8 weeks for it. Since its free i dont complain. then i find out they have the cool brick box for the decks and the only way to get it is to buy atleast 2 bricks. which means i would have to buy another brick just to get it. honestly once i get my brick trading half keeping the rest and then im done with them. would rather spend my money with aethercards much better stuff IMO.
Would you just read what you wrote... Really??? You won a free brick... Some thankfulness and appreciation is what you should be showing... Who cares how long it takes and why do you feel so entitled... How old are you?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Jin Jian on March 03, 2012, 10:48:13 PM
so im pissed off with skulkor and pretty much done with them. I won a free brick and I am waiting 8 weeks for it. Since its free i dont complain. then i find out they have the cool brick box for the decks and the only way to get it is to buy atleast 2 bricks. which means i would have to buy another brick just to get it. honestly once i get my brick trading half keeping the rest and then im done with them. would rather spend my money with aethercards much better stuff IMO.
why should you be piss off ?? 1 brick cost around $80 .. you just have to wait 8 week .. i am also waiting 8 week since i won a porper clip but i am not complainning .. why?? coz it free you no need to pay 1 cent for that
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on March 04, 2012, 01:32:24 AM
If you read what I wrote you see I said since my brick was free I did not mind, when the first mentioned the boxes they did not say with the luxury package or anything that came later.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on March 04, 2012, 01:39:15 AM
If I'm going to get 2 bricks, I want 2 brick boxes... the whole point of a brick box is to have a brick to fit in it... if you have 2 bricks but only one brick box, then one brick is without a home!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on March 04, 2012, 01:51:31 AM
If I'm going to get 2 bricks, I want 2 brick boxes... the whole point of a brick box is to have a brick to fit in it... if you have 2 bricks but only one brick box, then one brick is without a home!

yep if you get two bricks you get two wood boxes I'm sure the first night on the site it said every brick comes with a box if you get 12 decks everything they do keeps changing ha ha
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on March 04, 2012, 02:04:13 AM
If I'm going to get 2 bricks, I want 2 brick boxes... the whole point of a brick box is to have a brick to fit in it... if you have 2 bricks but only one brick box, then one brick is without a home!

yep if you get two bricks you get two wood boxes I'm sure the first night on the site it said every brick comes with a box if you get 12 decks everything they do keeps changing ha ha

Actually, no - you shouldn't be so sure about something that isn't true.  The only way they were available initially was by ordering one of their special packages - all of which included two bricks of cards.

I think there's something more telling about what's going on here.  These people supposedly have the cards ready to roll, but are waiting eight weeks to ship.  Now they're revealing information they once failed to reveal, once people starting thinking there was something rotten in Hong Kong.  Now they're taking this premium item - yes, folks, it's a PREMIUM, not standard equipment - and widening the pool of people who are eligible to purchase it, all before they've even shipped a single pack.

If I was a betting man, I'd say they're lying about the cards being ready to ship - that they're counting on this sale to pay for the cards first.  It's the only reason that makes sense.  Furthermore, they probably projected much stronger sales - I'm guessing the response was lukewarm based on comments made here; a few deck orders here and there, but few bricks and few packages due to prohibitive shipping costs, a dodgy shipping schedule, and the fact that the cards aren't being well received due to minimal customization.  So now they're trying to prime the pump more by offering premiums to people who simply buy two bricks and don't get the package upgrade.

I'm wondering - what's the deadline for filing with a credit card company for a fraudulent sale?  Could it be less than two months?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on March 04, 2012, 04:46:32 AM
I think the case contains 2 bricks. Not a normal brick box.
I'm not sure, but I'm not buying 2 bricks for that.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on March 04, 2012, 05:26:53 AM
I think the case contains 2 bricks. Not a normal brick box.
I'm not sure, but I'm not buying 2 bricks for that.

I thought that at first as well.  Someone told me it was only large enough for twelve decks.  But then again, he could be wrong as well...

All this "secret brotherhood" crap's going to blow up in their faces in the end, I believe.  They must have widened the eligibility because their package deals contained all kinds of crap in them, some of which wasn't clearly explained, and were insanely expensive on top of their whopping shipping costs.  I can't imagine they sold more than a handful of those and they knew they'd be stuck with a buttload of handmade boxes.  They'd be better off simply selling the blasted boxes.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on March 04, 2012, 06:43:12 AM
I think the case contains 2 bricks. Not a normal brick box.
I'm not sure, but I'm not buying 2 bricks for that.

I thought that at first as well.  Someone told me it was only large enough for twelve decks.  But then again, he could be wrong as well...

All this "secret brotherhood" crap's going to blow up in their faces in the end, I believe.  They must have widened the eligibility because their package deals contained all kinds of crap in them, some of which wasn't clearly explained, and were insanely expensive on top of their whopping shipping costs.  I can't imagine they sold more than a handful of those and they knew they'd be stuck with a buttload of handmade boxes.  They'd be better off simply selling the blasted boxes.

i asked i got 4 bricks so i get 4 boxes each holds 12

just been on there facebook not good comments ha ha i wonder how they will react all this trouble could go away if they reply to simple questions
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/161142_100000281086816_2063938499_q.jpg) (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000281086816)Owen Barrell (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000281086816) Get your act together. Like ยท  ยท about an hour ago ยท

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/161235_100002027012050_54030525_q.jpg) (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002027012050)Jacob Roggan Smith (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002027012050) Skulkor sort your business out before you start selling decks please.

Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: sinsandman on March 04, 2012, 10:11:31 AM
Holy hell! You ordered 2 luxury packages? I truly hope that you do not get had in the whole thing. I am doing to quests and such for points and entertainment purposes, but I will not be buying anything until someone else has decks in hand.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on March 04, 2012, 11:08:45 AM
He's gotten $500 free credits from their contest, why not? He's not actually spending any money at all.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: sinsandman on March 04, 2012, 11:12:17 AM
Ohhhhhh....well that makes perfect sense now lol. As I was. :P 8)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on March 04, 2012, 11:27:42 AM
Ohhhhhh....well that makes perfect sense now lol. As I was. :P 8)

haha yep they gave me 500 dollars free i only needed to pay 50 dollars for shipping shipping couldnt be payed for with the voucher
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: sinsandman on March 04, 2012, 11:36:11 AM
That is a great deal Zag. I am interested in the company for sure...something just doesn't feel on the up and up here though. However, it sure is enticing.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on March 04, 2012, 11:39:36 AM
Why would a start-up company give away 10(or whatever it was) vouchers for $500. Not even the big companies have ever done this.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on March 04, 2012, 12:06:54 PM
Like we've discussed before, it's just their way of marketing. They've certainly attracted some attention, look at all those people with their logo as their profile pictures. It's working well, regardless of whether it's towards the positive or negative.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Aaron on March 04, 2012, 12:09:15 PM
Like we've discussed before, it's just their way of marketing. They've certainly attracted some attention, look at all those people with their logo as their profile pictures. It's working well, regardless of whether it's towards the positive or negative.
Yes but 10 $500 vouchers is $5000, they could half fund their deck with that. Pretty much everything they sold was because of the vouchers.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: xZEROx on March 04, 2012, 12:12:20 PM
They'll probably get it back with the price of those rings and luxury packages, I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: digipunk on March 04, 2012, 03:12:40 PM
Like we've discussed before, it's just their way of marketing. They've certainly attracted some attention, look at all those people with their logo as their profile pictures. It's working well, regardless of whether it's towards the positive or negative.

If they gave the 500 points to 10 people, I believe my brothers may get real money from them if they want to buy a brick or two. Now look at our zaganh borther, he just spent the 500 points and didn't need to take out any money from his pocket. Seems my Skulkor brothers are not very smart.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on March 04, 2012, 03:16:59 PM
Yes but 10 $500 vouchers is $5000, they could half fund their deck with that. Pretty much everything they sold was because of the vouchers.

but the 500 dollars worth of product you receive will not cost them 500. in terms of what they got it for, it probably cost them half of that. so really they only only gave away 2500. but that isnt so big of a deal when you have rings and packages going for 250-500 dollars on the site. i'm happy i won 500 dollars credit too but im not under the impression that the stuff cost them 500 dollars to make.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: sinsandman on March 04, 2012, 04:12:14 PM
Congrats to you as well Dank. That is pretty sick. I hope everything is legit and you guys actually get $500 worth of merch 8)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: moonexe on March 04, 2012, 08:33:36 PM
Like we've discussed before, it's just their way of marketing. They've certainly attracted some attention, look at all those people with their logo as their profile pictures. It's working well, regardless of whether it's towards the positive or negative.
The profile picture thing is only because it was a requirement for one of their contests.
Yup, a requirement. Needless to say I didn't enter.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on March 04, 2012, 10:21:08 PM
Like we've discussed before, it's just their way of marketing. They've certainly attracted some attention, look at all those people with their logo as their profile pictures. It's working well, regardless of whether it's towards the positive or negative.
The profile picture thing is only because it was a requirement for one of their contests.
Yup, a requirement. Needless to say I didn't enter.

all contests have requirements, otherwise it can be considered money laundering.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Linguist_ on March 05, 2012, 12:52:27 AM
I just purchased two of the decks. No doubt I'll have forgotten about them by the time they arrive, whenever that may be. But that will just make it more pleasant, I suppose.

I'm not really into their whole marketing idea about revolutions, and brotherhood and whatnot. It's brave of them to have such bold packages with jewellery and wax seals and everything. I'm not sure what demographic they are appealing to with that, but it's their company. I'll be happy with a couple of decks and then leave it at that.

Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on March 06, 2012, 01:37:02 AM
I just purchased two of the decks. No doubt I'll have forgotten about them by the time they arrive, whenever that may be. But that will just make it more pleasant, I suppose.

I'm not really into their whole marketing idea about revolutions, and brotherhood and whatnot. It's brave of them to have such bold packages with jewellery and wax seals and everything. I'm not sure what demographic they are appealing to with that, but it's their company. I'll be happy with a couple of decks and then leave it at that.

I honestly think they got the idea from digging into De'vo's handlordz.com site.  His marketing is similar, though somewhat less extreme, and he sells goofy accoutrements like rings, pins, special-edition leatherbound books, etc.  There was even a litho called "The Handlordz War", showing XCMers defeating magicians in some medieval setting.  Plus there's a sense of mystery that he tries to generate; he rarely appears in photos and when I skimmed the two XCM beginners' discs he put out, you only see his hands and a bunch of subtitles instead of speech.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: JimmyJohns on April 21, 2012, 07:28:53 PM
I'm curious what happened with the Skulkor Deck release...

Wasn't supposed to be delivered early April?

I did not buy any on the pre-order, because I didn't like their marketing approach and their vagueness  surrounding the company, where they ship from, etc.

So, my questions are:

1)Anybody get them yet?
2)How they look and feel ( if you get them )?
3)Where they ship from?

Thanks JJ.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: junjie04 on April 21, 2012, 07:34:23 PM
The decks were delayed
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: JimmyJohns on April 21, 2012, 07:42:12 PM
The decks were delayed

Can you be more specific, like why or so?

Thanks, JJ.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on April 21, 2012, 07:47:00 PM
they did not say, except they want everyone to get them at the same time.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: JimmyJohns on April 21, 2012, 07:50:44 PM
they did not say, except they want everyone to get them at the same time.

And you are fine with that???

Thanks JJ.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on April 21, 2012, 07:57:57 PM
This is what they had said:

"Hi everyone!

It is sad for us to share this information with the family. However, as a family we will get through this hardship together.

Today, our packaging company has informed us about their delay in producing the hand crafted Skulkor Box. As it turns out, they are not satisfied with the quality of the boxes. Not all the boxes meet their standards and our approved quality. So they are now starting from square one to make all your boxes meet the Skulkor standard. This means that the packaging company will not deliver as promised to meet our April deadline. We are currently working on a new timeline and will announce it shortly.

I know many of you have been waiting for your weapons to arrive and we want to apologize for this delay. Things are completely out of our hands right now. Even we are getting a little anxious.

The only thing assuring us right now is that the company is working hard to make it right and make sure that the product you receive is nothing less than perfect. And despite their delay, we have thanked them for their dedication to the quality of the packaging.

Again, we are truly sorry about the delay and we really appreciate your patience! Thank you all for your support!

Sincerely,
Skulkor"
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on April 21, 2012, 08:18:12 PM
they did not say, except they want everyone to get them at the same time.

And you are fine with that???

Thanks JJ.

no im not, but mine are free
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on April 22, 2012, 01:25:00 AM
This is what they had said:

"Hi everyone!

It is sad for us to share this information with the family. However, as a family we will get through this hardship together.

Today, our packaging company has informed us about their delay in producing the hand crafted Skulkor Box. As it turns out, they are not satisfied with the quality of the boxes. Not all the boxes meet their standards and our approved quality. So they are now starting from square one to make all your boxes meet the Skulkor standard. This means that the packaging company will not deliver as promised to meet our April deadline. We are currently working on a new timeline and will announce it shortly.

I know many of you have been waiting for your weapons to arrive and we want to apologize for this delay. Things are completely out of our hands right now. Even we are getting a little anxious.

The only thing assuring us right now is that the company is working hard to make it right and make sure that the product you receive is nothing less than perfect. And despite their delay, we have thanked them for their dedication to the quality of the packaging.

Again, we are truly sorry about the delay and we really appreciate your patience! Thank you all for your support!

Sincerely,
Skulkor"

Nathan, that's an old message from March 29th relating to the special brick boxes made of wood.  What about the ordinary decks of cards?  When they mentioned they'd announce a new timeline "shortly", they must have reinvented the term "shortly".  Their "brotherhood" marketing crap wore thin weeks ago and their desire to release their decks to the entire world simultaneously is both childish and unrealistic (or more accurately, simply an excuse for something they don't want you to know about).

I've sent them an email insisting on a full refund.  No deck is worth waiting all this time and paying that much for shipping.  I'd sooner flourish and perform with cards printed on toilet paper.

UPDATE: exactly ninety minutes after emailing them my request, I got an email showing that a refund was issued, which I verified with PayPal.  So if you're sick and tired of waiting, I recommend you follow my example, speak with your wallets and cancel your purchases.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on April 22, 2012, 01:09:35 PM
Don, I didn't want to be the first to post about asking for a refund, but I asked them for a refund as well. They asked me for my order #, which I gave them, and I am not waiting for a response. If they had been a bit smarter, the skulkor "brothers" would have given away credits a bit lower. Say their "luxury package" cost 300$. They could have given 250$ of credits so those 10 people would, for the most part, have payed 50$ extra of their credit, + and extra 50$ for shipping. Anyways, I'm done with this.
Edit: I successfully got my refund, although there was an .81$ fee out of the 13$ I originally payed.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on April 22, 2012, 06:05:35 PM
Don, I didn't want to be the first to post about asking for a refund, but I asked them for a refund as well. They asked me for my order #, which I gave them, and I am not waiting for a response. If they had been a bit smarter, the skulkor "brothers" would have given away credits a bit lower. Say their "luxury package" cost 300$. They could have given 250$ of credits so those 10 people would, for the most part, have payed 50$ extra of their credit, + and extra 50$ for shipping. Anyways, I'm done with this.
Edit: I successfully got my refund, although there was an .81$ fee out of the 13$ I originally payed.


Initially they asked me for an order number, but my cancellation email was a forwarded copy of my PayPal receipt, so it would seem they were able to figure it out on their own before I could respond to their request.


I went over to their Facebook page to see about leaving a comment to inquire about when this deck was supposed to finally ship.  They removed the ability to leave comments on their Wall - you can only leave them a private message.  I thought that was not a good sign, but it's in line with all the secretive behavior they've exhibited since day one.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on May 18, 2012, 01:25:17 AM
finaly all orders are shipping on the 21 =D
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Kenneth on May 18, 2012, 06:57:19 AM
finaly all orders are shipping on the 21 =D

My gosh missed out on this is there a way for me to get my hands on 1 or a couple?? anyone planning to sell em??
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on May 18, 2012, 07:46:56 AM
finaly all orders are shipping on the 21 =D

My gosh missed out on this is there a way for me to get my hands on 1 or a couple?? anyone planning to sell em??

i pmd you ^^
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Jin Jian on May 18, 2012, 08:26:58 AM
A stunning video !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bCn2lg11BhQ#!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Paul Carpenter on May 18, 2012, 09:35:32 AM
I was beginning to wonder if Skulkor was just a big scam. Take all the money, promise the moon and then disappear. Good that the product is actually out there. Still, so strange that they took SOOOOO long to get the decks together. I basically got my deck funded, printed and delivered to me in the same timeframe.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 18, 2012, 11:25:23 AM
Although this isn't a scam I'm glad I got a refund. 13$ for a deck shipped to the US is too much IMO. The seal looks nice, but this is only a partly-custom deck that doesn't look too nice IMO.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on May 18, 2012, 12:12:39 PM
I was beginning to wonder if Skulkor was just a big scam. Take all the money, promise the moon and then disappear. Good that the product is actually out there. Still, so strange that they took SOOOOO long to get the decks together. I basically got my deck funded, printed and delivered to me in the same timeframe.


It's simple - this was a reverse Kickstarter!  Pretend the decks are made, promise delivery in EIGHT WEEKS, order them with the cash raised, make another excuse when the deadline is missed (oh those pesky USPC people and their fiddly print schedules), then ship AFTER they've finally been made.


Seems simple enough to me...   ::)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on May 18, 2012, 02:31:29 PM
I am getting a brick free, so if they were a scam i did not care :)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 18, 2012, 02:34:50 PM
I am getting a brick free, so if they were a scam i did not care :)
Did you win one of their contests?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on May 18, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
yea, they were giving away the ring and some how i was entered in the 2nd one that got a brick of cards. I am just waiting for my deck. IDK why but they defriended me but i still liked their page so i sometimes get updates.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Evan on May 18, 2012, 06:37:42 PM
When I saw them say that the decks wouldn't ship for another 8 weeks, I decided not to order. Then I saw them say that they already had the decks but they gave some lame excuse that didn't even make sense. I'm very glad I didn't order and I don't plan on ordering them.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on May 19, 2012, 01:45:27 PM
ok so apparently they shipped everything out today. did anyone get a status update in their accounts on the skulkor website?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Jin Jian on May 19, 2012, 08:54:39 PM
a guy wrote on their facebook page ..

Guy:Hi Skulkor, When do we know our orders are shipped ? Will be receiving email us informing that our order is shipped ? Thank You

Skulkor:Hi The shipping has been processed since yesterday. You will soon receive your product from our distribution center. Thank you for your patience.

Guy:Thank You... But do we receive tracking numbers ? Because I normally not at home.. I usually collect mail from the post office.. =D thanks fo the fast reply

Skulkor: Hi There will be no tracking numbers unless you have emailed us previously and requested to pay for the expedited postage service. Thank you for your inquiry

They did not mention about getting email when the guy ask him about it
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on May 20, 2012, 01:27:13 AM
The entire process by which this company appears to work is about as stable as desert sand in a windstorm.  I wouldn't trust them to give me four quarters for a dollar.  I'm glad they refunded my money when I requested it, but the whole delay nonsense is beyond ridiculous - their excuses sounded utterly half-baked.  For a company that claimed its product was ready to roll, it's taking an awfully long time for them to make good on their sales.  The one and only scenario that makes a shred of sense is that they didn't have the decks at all and were using their sales as "pre-sales" to raise the money to make the deck in the first place.  Either that or they're truly lacking in the skills and/or knowledge needed to run a playing card business.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on May 20, 2012, 06:19:12 PM
they said theyll send a confermation e mail when your orders shipped i asked them on facebook
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on May 20, 2012, 09:59:31 PM
so...did anyone get an email?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: vmagic on May 20, 2012, 11:24:15 PM
I never got any email from them yet.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Eyeball on May 22, 2012, 02:15:20 AM
I got my shipping confirmation tonight, and I dunno if anyone else tried to pick up one of the ghost bracelets, but I got an email that said this:

"This is Skulkor. We are writing this personal message to you in regards to your order.

Your order has been dispatched. However, we are very sad to inform you that the Ghost Bracelet is removed from the collection. During our quality examination right before shipment, we have discovered an error in the assembly line during mass production. Ghost Bracelet has one of the most complicated designs on the market today. All parts are manufactured from different parts of the world to ensure that every piece of this bracelet is made from the best and latest technology possible. However, during the process of assembling the parts from across the globe, we've found an error. We haven't yet figure out which manufacturer is responsible. The bracelet still does the effect perfectly but the life time of the gimmick has shortened tremendously. This is not what we have initially desired for our brothers to equip. Therefore, we have pulled out all Ghost Bracelets from the packages last weekend right before their departure. This was a very difficult decision for us. But we want only the best for you and we are willing to take a great loss on our end to protect your benefit and investments. This is the integrity of Skulkor and we want you to know you are in good hands.

To appreciate your support and take on this responsibility, we would like to offer you the following options.

a) Full refund of the value equivalent to Skulkor Bracelet ($85).

or

b) $100 Skulkor Credit towards your account and a one-of-a-kind GOLD SEAL Skulkor Deck that's not available outside of this special offer."

I'm leaning towards the refund, but thought I might see what you guys think. What would your choice be? A gold seal doesn't seem all that big of a deal to me though. ::)
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on May 22, 2012, 02:36:45 AM
id go with b thats awesome mine just said this

Hi Zegan,

The wait is over! Your Skulkor products have been dispatched to the logistic company responsible for your region. Your items are on their way to you!

Before the products arrive at your door, take your chance to win a special prize by participating in the Skulkor brainstorming game.

then they asked that mad question haha
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Dudeee on May 22, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
I don't know what you should do, but I think the gold seal is a scam!!! I got the 2 brick boxes for the wax seal decks and now they have a gold seal deck!!! This effectively makes 3 different decks with just one deck!!! And People thought the buck twins went too far with the whole Fulton reserve seal deck.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: vmagic on May 22, 2012, 08:24:07 AM
Yes I got a confirmation as well!
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Assassino13 on May 22, 2012, 10:05:38 AM
I'd take the second. Even if the gold-seal isn't a big deal to you, you could probably sell it to some crazy collector for more than $85.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 22, 2012, 11:27:10 AM
I would take the first one. We don't know how big the aftermarket demand will be for these decks. + Their company is a bit shady and who knows if they'll let you get 100$ of credits or not.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: vmagic on May 22, 2012, 05:20:26 PM
Not to mention if you did get the credits, what would you use them for?

Either way I got my 3 decks in the mail today, they used express mail and shipped it from somewhere in Canada it seems. Just got the email yesterday and today the decks arrived, that is pretty good compared to other companies. The decks look nice enough but only has standard faces although there is a bonus gaff card included. I will have a review up on my channel late tonight some time.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Eyeball on May 22, 2012, 06:09:49 PM
Not to mention if you did get the credits, what would you use them for?

This is exactly what I was thinking, I have a feeling the gold seal won't be worth more than MAYBE $30. On top of that the skulkor decks are now sold out, so I don't really need anything else from their website...I guess it depends on what kind of releases they plan on having in the future. The second option just seems like more of a gamble while the first is a safe bet.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on May 23, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
It's classic bait-and-switch.  At least they offered the cash refund option.

And the deck can't be TOTALLY sold out - many people here (including myself) opted to cancel our order and get refunded rather than waiting because it seemed like such a scam.

I don not for even a single second regret canceling my order.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on May 25, 2012, 11:49:10 PM
I just got my free brick and the design is nice but i dont like the jokers, will have a review up with in the week.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: vmagic on May 26, 2012, 12:20:20 AM
It's classic bait-and-switch.  At least they offered the cash refund option.

And the deck can't be TOTALLY sold out - many people here (including myself) opted to cancel our order and get refunded rather than waiting because it seemed like such a scam.

I don not for even a single second regret canceling my order.

How is it bait and switch, they did ship out the decks, I can confirm that as I received mine and a review is up on my channel.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 26, 2012, 10:52:59 AM
It's classic bait-and-switch.  At least they offered the cash refund option.

And the deck can't be TOTALLY sold out - many people here (including myself) opted to cancel our order and get refunded rather than waiting because it seemed like such a scam.

I don not for even a single second regret canceling my order.

How is it bait and switch, they did ship out the decks, I can confirm that as I received mine and a review is up on my channel.
He's talking about the bracelet.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on May 27, 2012, 05:06:21 AM
Just wondering is there any other place than skulkor that sell this deck.
I don't wanna too much on shipping.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 27, 2012, 10:58:08 AM
Just wondering is there any other place than skulkor that sell this deck.
I don't wanna too much on shipping.
I'm not sure but I don't think so. I know that many resellers didn't want to invest in such a shady company.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Jin Jian on May 27, 2012, 09:26:16 PM
Just wondering is there any other place than skulkor that sell this deck.
I don't wanna too much on shipping.
yup .. and also the max purchase is 2 brick each .. so reseller has to make alot different order so the price will be more expensive
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on May 28, 2012, 10:27:05 PM
Just wondering is there any other place than skulkor that sell this deck.
I don't wanna too much on shipping.
yup .. and also the max purchase is 2 brick each .. so reseller has to make alot different order so the price will be more expensive

the brick cap didnt apply if you bought the packages i got two of the packages  over 4 bricks they said it was fine
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: katani8 on May 29, 2012, 11:16:14 AM
"Packaged in a custom 12-pack carton available only for orders of a dozen or more."

I received my custom 12-pack:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2348/skulkorbox.jpg

LOL
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: zaganh on May 29, 2012, 11:19:15 AM
"Packaged in a custom 12-pack carton available only for orders of a dozen or more."

I received my custom 12-pack:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2348/skulkorbox.jpg

LOL

haha i htought it would be a black brick box with the same pattern as the front of the deck not just a sticker
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: RandyButterfield on May 29, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
"Packaged in a custom 12-pack carton available only for orders of a dozen or more."

I received my custom 12-pack:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2348/skulkorbox.jpg

LOL

Wow!! Now that is true Bait and Switch! That statement is soooo misleading and would easily
make customers believe they were getting a fully-printed custom Brick Box. Slapping a 1-Color
sticker on the flap costs them maybe an extra .50ยข at the most!

I didn't order anything from these guys but I've get up with this thread and this is the worst
of there actions by far, in my opinion.

thanks, Randy

Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: DeckOfCards on May 29, 2012, 11:37:15 AM
Can't see the picture.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: RandyButterfield on May 29, 2012, 11:54:10 AM
Can't see the picture.

Here it is!

Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Dudeee on May 29, 2012, 12:09:15 PM
Can't see the picture.

Here it is!

Guys, I think this is a cool custom brick box....

From the pic above, we can clearly see the white brick box is at least 2 shades whiter than normal brick boxes. Above all, the exquisite custom 50 cent sticker giving added security from you opening the brick adding to you anxiety.......

Awesome stuff........
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: DeckOfCards on May 29, 2012, 12:10:18 PM
Can't see the picture.

Here it is!
Thanks for the upload. WOW i'm speechless.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: katani8 on May 29, 2012, 12:18:30 PM
This sticker was printed on home printer, sealed with tape.
I see pixels... nice :D
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Dudeee on May 29, 2012, 12:20:33 PM
BTW I did ordered the 2 brick deal where you will get the wooden brick box.

Anyone have a pic on this, honestly, I'm a LITTLE worried.......
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on May 29, 2012, 05:07:02 PM
did anyone get the wooden box yet?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: phantom1412 on May 29, 2012, 09:00:45 PM
Glad I cancelled my order.
I'll just find 1 deck later from trades or US based ebay shop.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on May 30, 2012, 10:53:49 AM
[Sarcasm]WOW, what a gorgeous CUSTOM brick box!  Makes it worth EVERY PENNY!!!!!!!![/Sarcasm]
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: chisairi on May 30, 2012, 08:20:08 PM
i thought for the wooden brick box people had to buy 2 bricks to have it.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Dudeee on May 31, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
Yep... Buy 2 bricks and get custom wooden brick box. Buy 1 brick and get a beautiful custom cardboard brick with a custom seal on the brick box.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: danktrees on May 31, 2012, 10:39:47 AM
it doesn't seem as though anyone has received the wooden boxes yet though. Anyone get an uncut yet?
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Paul Carpenter on May 31, 2012, 12:58:57 PM
Oh my. Now that is just shameless. That looks like a Dymo laberlwriter label, not ever something custom. I would be horrified and apologizing up down and sideways if I promised something like a custom box and couldn't deliver. I mean, I feel genuinely bad that my tuck box printing incidents sent me back a few weeks and prevented all my Tendril orders from being in people's hands before the end of this month, but that's nothing compared to offering a custom item and just flat out ignoring it.

These Skulkor folks should be ashamed of themselves. What a crummy way to run things. Really glad I steered far away from all their weirdness.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 31, 2012, 06:11:36 PM
These Skulkor folks should be ashamed of themselves. What a crummy way to run things. Really glad I steered far away from all their weirdness.
Me too. They are just committing one shameless act after another. I find it sad that the community has come to a point where you support those who cheat us.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on May 31, 2012, 08:33:02 PM
These Skulkor folks should be ashamed of themselves. What a crummy way to run things. Really glad I steered far away from all their weirdness.
Me too. They are just committing one shameless act after another. I find it sad that the community has come to a point where you support those who cheat us.


Define "you" and "support", if you would, please, as it applies here.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 31, 2012, 08:55:10 PM
I didn't mean you. I meant we, the community as a whole. And by "support" I mean buy products from such a shady company. It's similar to backing bad deck projects on Kickstarter just to have all the new decks that come out, in case that deck gets funded. If everyone did that, all the Kickstarter projects, whether good or bad, would be successful.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on May 31, 2012, 09:23:15 PM
I didn't mean you. I meant we, the community as a whole. And by "support" I mean buy products from such a shady company. It's similar to backing bad deck projects on Kickstarter just to have all the new decks that come out, in case that deck gets funded. If everyone did that, all the Kickstarter projects, whether good or bad, would be successful.


I never thought you meant me.  The community as a whole does NOT always support this kind of crap - I pulled my support and got a refund.  And a good number of Kickstarter projects for crap decks do indeed fail - I see more fail than succeed.  I report on them usually weekly, though I missed last week's report due to being in Toronto.


In short, your entire statement is based on baseless assumptions and incorrect generalizations.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 31, 2012, 09:44:18 PM
Don you are misunderstanding me. In my post I wrote the word "you" and I meant to write the word "we". I'm not talking about a specific person, I'm talking about us as a group. Skulkor wouldn't have happened if 50% of us on these forums hadn't backed the deck. And those kickstarter crap decks sometimes do get funded, and what I'm saying is that we should try to limit our backing of these as much as possible so we are sure that people don't even think to themselves that they have a chance of designing a deck and make some quick money.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on May 31, 2012, 10:13:26 PM
Don you are misunderstanding me. In my post I wrote the word "you" and I meant to write the word "we". I'm not talking about a specific person, I'm talking about us as a group. Skulkor wouldn't have happened if 50% of us on these forums hadn't backed the deck. And those kickstarter crap decks sometimes do get funded, and what I'm saying is that we should try to limit our backing of these as much as possible so we are sure that people don't even think to themselves that they have a chance of designing a deck and make some quick money.


I fully understand - perhaps better than you.


Where did you get the statistic that 50% of all the forum's participants supported and bought the Skulkor deck?  Did you take a survey, or perhaps hired a survey company?  Was there a statistically significant number of responses to make the survey valid?


What "crap" deck or decks made it through to being financed?  Who determines if it's crap?  You?  Or the people who want to own a pack or two of it?  Are the all members of this community?


Decks on Kickstarter made solely for the purpose of making money FAIL if that's all they have going for them.  I've seen it before.  Even the successful decks don't always make much money!  People back a deck based on their tastes, and just because their taste is radically different from yours doesn't mean it's crap.  And even if it is, at least in my own opinion, I don't recall Kickstarter ever holding a gun to my head and forcing me to back any deck, good, bad or indifferent, on penalty of death...


When you're talking about facts with an actual foundation in truth, I'll listen.  But your assumptions are as far from facts as the earth is far from the sun.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on May 31, 2012, 10:19:30 PM
I don't mean to judge anyone's decisions. Maybe we should just think twice before pre-ordering a deck. Think about the consequences putting this deck on the market will have and thinking whether we really want it or if we are buying it in case it gets funded so you can have all decks.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on May 31, 2012, 10:45:31 PM
I don't mean to judge anyone's decisions. Maybe we should just think twice before pre-ordering a deck. Think about the consequences putting this deck on the market will have and thinking whether we really want it or if we are buying it in case it gets funded so you can have all decks.


If you HAVEN'T been spending your money that way in the first place, you need some basic lessons in Personal Economics...  And none of that addresses the concocted conclusions you were coming up with.


You have a habit of speaking like an authority on a lot of things, many of which you're not really fully knowledgable on.  Many people, myself included, find this annoying, especially if you're wrong, because it sounds like you posted just to "hear your own voice".


Please check your facts before you post like you know everything.  I'm not perfect there myself, as no one is, but I either use qualifiers when I'm not sure or I accept that I was incorrect and acknowledge that, with apologies if needed.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: NathanCanadas on June 06, 2012, 04:11:17 PM
Since I got a refund, here's what they sent me:
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: John B. on June 06, 2012, 07:35:04 PM
They honestly had some pros and cons. I mean I feel cheated on the box too. I feel I could have done more there, plus I am not a huge fan of the jokers. But I will say I had a damaged deck and within the day that I emailed them they said they were sending me another. Also to whoever asked about places to buy I have a couple extra I could sell or trade.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Don Boyer on June 06, 2012, 08:34:56 PM
Since I got a refund, here's what they sent me:


I got one of those as well, in a hand-written envelope - on which they MISSPELLED their own name!  Mine said "Sulkor".  Perhaps they're unhappy that I requested my refund and they chose to sulk about it?  I'll post photos later.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Dudeee on June 10, 2012, 02:04:06 AM
Guys, I just got my decks, the custom box is fortunately quite nice. The shipping is awesome!!! The boxes came perfect and the decks were all well protected.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: Eyeball on June 11, 2012, 07:36:09 PM
Just got my decks today and the special brick boxes are very nice! Everything came excellently packaged as well, and I must say they have some pretty good customer service, I would say they are a much better company than I expected with all the shady-ness at the beginning. In case anyone wanted to get a couple of these decks shoot me a PM, I will be selling off a decent amount in the near future to help fund my collection. I also have 2 Skulkor uncuts, 1 with the red wax seal imprinted on it. Let me know if you are interested!

*EDIT* Sorry just realized that actually both uncuts have the red seal on them, my apologies.
Title: Re: Deck :: SKULKOR ::
Post by: chisairi on June 15, 2012, 12:35:00 AM
I got mine yesterday!
They have the best packaging far by! (correct me if I'm wrong)
This is what a brick should be like. SOLID!