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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2016, 01:46:53 PM »
 

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I hope you can meet your stretch goals! The metallic inks will look so awesome on these!
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2016, 01:52:24 AM »
 

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I hope you can meet your stretch goals! The metallic inks will look so awesome on these!

Thanks, glad you like them, Yes I think metallic ink would be cool.  Especially for the guns on the outlaw deck and the badge on the lawman deck. 
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2016, 07:49:39 PM »
 

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Hey, Thanks for all of  the suggestions on the king of spades earlier.  I have taken the suggestions and made some changes as suggested.  I do like this format better, placement of pips and gun placement.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2016, 03:20:31 PM »
 

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Nice! :)
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2016, 11:05:04 PM »
 

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Nice! :)

Agreed.  Looking kinda sharp.  You might want to use a somewhat darker shade for the name lettering under the index - printed in the border like that, it's going to be narrow and small, so a darker shade will aid with readability.  You can also move it a bit further down the edge if you want to, perhaps even as far as center line.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2016, 11:44:34 AM »
 

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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2016, 11:44:54 AM »
 

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Nice! :)

Agreed.  Looking kinda sharp.  You might want to use a somewhat darker shade for the name lettering under the index - printed in the border like that, it's going to be narrow and small, so a darker shade will aid with readability.  You can also move it a bit further down the edge if you want to, perhaps even as far as center line.

Thanks Don! 
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2016, 03:39:44 PM »
 

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Here is a new version of the lawman back, without words.

what do you think?
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2016, 10:06:34 PM »
 

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I don't mean to be a buzzkill but the back has a lot of detail everywhere BUT the center. It's like it reads badge then goes to bulls eye. Better than the text though in my opinion. Doesn't grab me and has a strange feel to my eyes.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2016, 12:36:43 AM »
 

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I don't mean to be a buzzkill but the back has a lot of detail everywhere BUT the center. It's like it reads badge then goes to bulls eye. Better than the text though in my opinion. Doesn't grab me and has a strange feel to my eyes.

I appreciate the feedback Fes.  I have a couple other variations that are similar.  Maybe they will be a bit better.  Feedback is good, that way I can nail down a winner!  I do also like it better than the words. 
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2016, 12:41:18 AM »
 

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Here some variations of the lawmen back that we have tweaked.  Let me know which ones you like best!
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2016, 06:28:27 PM »
 

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I like B2.  It's embellished in a two-way design without being overly embellished.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2016, 10:30:57 AM »
 

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I like B2.  It's embellished in a two-way design without being overly embellished.

Ok thanks Don, I might have another variation as well, just messing around with some idea right now, might stick with these options
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #38 on: February 29, 2016, 12:54:18 AM »
 

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Some changes we made to the Wild West Back, I like these better.  Let me know what you think.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2016, 12:55:47 AM »
 

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It feels a little too baroque to me.  Consider what the authentic badges of the old West looked like.  A few had some ornate details, a few were absolutely covered in detail work, but the vast majority were very simple affairs, way less elaborate than what you're presenting here.  This might be a case where less is more.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2016, 04:21:51 PM »
 

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It feels a little too baroque to me.  Consider what the authentic badges of the old West looked like.  A few had some ornate details, a few were absolutely covered in detail work, but the vast majority were very simple affairs, way less elaborate than what you're presenting here.  This might be a case where less is more.

Thanks for the feedback Don, So you still prefer B2 from the previous post?  This will be a tough choice for me :)  I have been getting good and less good feedback on both styles.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2016, 05:57:22 AM »
 

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It feels a little too baroque to me.  Consider what the authentic badges of the old West looked like.  A few had some ornate details, a few were absolutely covered in detail work, but the vast majority were very simple affairs, way less elaborate than what you're presenting here.  This might be a case where less is more.

Thanks for the feedback Don, So you still prefer B2 from the previous post?  This will be a tough choice for me :)  I have been getting good and less good feedback on both styles.

Well, in the end, you're the artist and the call is yours to make!

Try an experiment.  Make the simplest, most utterly stripped-down version of a six-pointed sheriff's badge you can, with as few details as possible.  Gradually add new, simple elements, one at a time, and look at the overall appearance with each new addition.  At some point, you'll hit that sweet spot that looks just right to your sensibilities - some level of detail without being overly-adorned, lending the design a more authentic feel.

But before you even start, do an image search for Old West-style lawman badges and you'll get an idea of what I'm talking about when it comes to the simplicity of most of the designs.  Many were as simple as a hunk of metal shaped into a star or a shield with a few words engraved or stamped into them and that was it - they were in many cases perhaps the work of the local blacksmith rather than the local engraver, silversmith or jeweler, considering nearly all frontier towns would have the former but relatively few would have any of the latter!  Fancy silver or metalwork would be the kind of thing you'd have to go to a larger town or city to find.

Remember, the replica badges a lot of sites will show you are representative of what was out there, often labeled with the names of cities you've heard of either in history books or in the modern day, but a lot of the actual badges of that time period were made for a lawman in some dinky, one-horse town consisting of "main street" and little else, a town that may no longer even exists.  It would say "sheriff," the town name and that's about it.  In more dangerous territories, it was a pretty thankless position and fraught with risk, especially if you happened to be the one officer of the law in a hole-in-the-wall town buried in the middle of nowhere, a place rife with lawlessness because it made for a convenient, out-of-the-way place to hide.  There are stories of entire towns that were literally controlled by bandits, rustlers and other lawbreakers without a lawman in sight, the town's entire raison d'ĂȘtre being to serve as a hideout.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2016, 09:53:16 AM »
 

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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2016, 02:38:46 PM »
 

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It feels a little too baroque to me.  Consider what the authentic badges of the old West looked like.  A few had some ornate details, a few were absolutely covered in detail work, but the vast majority were very simple affairs, way less elaborate than what you're presenting here.  This might be a case where less is more.

Thanks for the feedback Don, So you still prefer B2 from the previous post?  This will be a tough choice for me :)  I have been getting good and less good feedback on both styles.

Well, in the end, you're the artist and the call is yours to make!

Try an experiment.  Make the simplest, most utterly stripped-down version of a six-pointed sheriff's badge you can, with as few details as possible.  Gradually add new, simple elements, one at a time, and look at the overall appearance with each new addition.  At some point, you'll hit that sweet spot that looks just right to your sensibilities - some level of detail without being overly-adorned, lending the design a more authentic feel.

But before you even start, do an image search for Old West-style lawman badges and you'll get an idea of what I'm talking about when it comes to the simplicity of most of the designs.  Many were as simple as a hunk of metal shaped into a star or a shield with a few words engraved or stamped into them and that was it - they were in many cases perhaps the work of the local blacksmith rather than the local engraver, silversmith or jeweler, considering nearly all frontier towns would have the former but relatively few would have any of the latter!  Fancy silver or metalwork would be the kind of thing you'd have to go to a larger town or city to find.

Remember, the replica badges a lot of sites will show you are representative of what was out there, often labeled with the names of cities you've heard of either in history books or in the modern day, but a lot of the actual badges of that time period were made for a lawman in some dinky, one-horse town consisting of "main street" and little else, a town that may no longer even exists.  It would say "sheriff," the town name and that's about it.  In more dangerous territories, it was a pretty thankless position and fraught with risk, especially if you happened to be the one officer of the law in a hole-in-the-wall town buried in the middle of nowhere, a place rife with lawlessness because it made for a convenient, out-of-the-way place to hide.  There are stories of entire towns that were literally controlled by bandits, rustlers and other lawbreakers without a lawman in sight, the town's entire raison d'ĂȘtre being to serve as a hideout.

Thanks Don,  having a simple badge like the old wild west badges was my initial thought as well.  That is why we went with the USA and the lawmen but I just wasnt feeling it.  I know words on backs are tough as well. 
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2016, 02:42:22 PM »
 

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I am leaning towards this design, made some changes to the middle and color changes. 

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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2016, 03:46:58 AM »
 

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I am leaning towards this design, made some changes to the middle and color changes.

It strikes a decent balance between authentic appearance and somewhat baroque design.  In custom decks, sometimes people really go for a more complex design, especially more complex than what they'd see in a standard "drugstore" deck.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2016, 10:27:18 PM »
 

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Hey, made changes to the Outlaw Back.  Made changes to the guy, the hat, and the scroll work.  Both cards tie in together better.  Let me know what you think and what color you like better.

Thanks,
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2016, 09:40:51 PM »
 

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I like the B2 version slightly better than any of the other ones.  Just for a suggestion, have you tried a larger spur for the center with a narrower black band like B4?  BTW, I'm digging these decks.  Keep up the great work.
 

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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2016, 11:38:32 PM »
 

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Back F2 looks better - F1 is a little too much on the dark side, lacks enough contrast.
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Re: Wild West Decks - Lawman and Outlaw Decks
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2016, 11:58:19 AM »
 

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